Apple seeks revival of standards lawsuit against Google’s Motorola

“Apple Inc., maker of the iPhone, asked a U.S. appeals court to revive its lawsuit claiming Google Inc.’s Motorola Mobility unit demanded unreasonably high royalties for standard mobile-phone technology,” Susan Decker reports for Bloomberg.

“‘You’re talking about billions of dollars hanging over the head of Apple,’ Apple lawyer Joshua Rosenkranz of Orrick Herrington, told a three-judge panel of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit in Washington today,” Decker reports. “The breach-of-contract and antitrust case is part of a broader fight over how to value patents that relate to technological standards used across industries, such as how to access Wi-Fi signals or transmit pictures. A trial to set a royalty was thrown out after Apple said it wouldn’t license the patents unless the judge set a rate at $1 or less for each iPhone.”

“Apple and Motorola Mobility have been fighting over smartphone patents since October 2010, with no victory by either side. While Motorola Mobility filed suit first, it was brought as Cupertino, California-based Apple started suing other manufacturers claiming phones running on Google’s Android operating system were copying features of the iPhone,” Decker reports. “Because companies may benefit from having their own ideas adopted for industrywide use, they pledge to license any relevant patents on fair and reasonable terms without discriminating against competitors. In the case on appeal, Apple claimed that Motorola Mobility violated that pledge on technology for wireless and 3G transmissions. Motorola Mobility demanded ‘a rate that was more than 12 times what Motorola was charging other licensees for the same technology,’ Apple said in a July 23 filing with the Federal Circuit.”

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        1. Too true. I have been harassed by some people here (not mentioning names, you know who you are) by sayin’ I sound unintelligent and poor, because of my accent and writing style. Someone here says that “Diversity Rulz” but it seems that this site does not care about diversity.

        2. I’m certainly one who says ‘Diversity Rulz’. But I’m often in the face of folks with narrower views of the world. I know full well that there is an element here that flips out over anything that isn’t neo-conservative. This most certainly is NOT a politically neutral site and politics get BLASTED around here without much reason why. I’ve had some dire lunatics stalk me here! I don’t care. I state my POV when I feel like it and enjoy keeping up with Apple news.

          AND we have some VERY smart people around here from whom I learn a lot and with whom I share a lot.

        3. Don’t get me wrong, I wasn’t targeting you in any negative way. I am a fan of your posts. It’s just that certain people here like to exhibit their ignorance of the world around them on this site. Some people just don’t understand that the world does not revolve around them, and go on and do or say hurtful things to other people. Sorry if there was any misunderstanding.

        4. I read through what you wrote a couple times and knew you weren’t upset at me, but at the lack of diversity here, certainly on a frequent basis. It always disturbs me when women are targeted, people who aren’t even a ‘minority’ and who have so much to offer the tech field but are literally blocked out due to bizarro male bias within our culture.

          Then there are ‘The Crazies’. There are always the crazies. I often deliberately go after the haters and liars, having (I must admit) fun along the way. Not taking what I call ‘Other People’s Problems’ seriously has become a mandate in my life. It’s hard to learn for some of us, but is very useful in avoiding worthless stress factors.

          Meanwhile, of course I’d be hanging out at political forums if I wanted to chatter politics. I don’t because I don’t. But politics still gets SHOVED at us here. Some of the crowd here insist upon it and the folks who run this place have their own political POV to shove at us. Accept the stress factors you actually want to accept. Shove BACK the rest of the rubbish and make a game of it when you can. That’s my personal lecture on the subject.

        5. What I would be interested in is more stories about your days in the Bronx. That would be more fascinating than the tales from Dullsville we tend to get treated to, on a random day

        6. Apollonia, I really hate your attempts at sounding like a “Social Justice Warrior”. People like you are responsible for limiting free speech in this country. Do you know how many hate letters I get because of my comic series. People hate me because they think my comic is hateful against homosexuals/blacks/autistic people/Christians when my comic is really just satire about the problems we face in the modern world. It is NOT hateful in anyway, and I am sick and tired of people like you who try to censor people who don’t agree with your ideas.

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  2. So back on topic:
    It does come off as ‘arrogant’ (that ever abused word) to have Apple apparently dictating to a judge how to rule:

    Apple said it wouldn’t license the patents unless the judge set a rate at $1 or less for each iPhone.

    I hope that lawyer was tossed out on his ear and Apple now has a better hang of how the courtroom game is played. It is indeed ridiculous that game playing strategies are required in courtrooms. But welcome to humanity. 😛

  3. *sigh* Another day, another dollar wasted by Apple in court further making them look like whining children on a playground after some kid stole their ball. Look Apple, we get it. You were stolen from, and other companies don’t always treat you fair (then again you don’t always treat other companies fair either) however some fans are really getting tired of seeing your name in way more headlines talking about court than talking about new products or new innovations. To put it in message board terms Apple, STOP FEEDING THE TROLLS! And just start outsmarting and out-innovating them. I’m not saying just roll over and take it when other companies get their inspiration from work you’ve put in; I’m just saying that the lawsuit route has (thus far at least) shown itself to be a fruitless pursuit in which many at Apple are spending mountains of time and Apple is spending mountains of money and at the end of the day no one wins. If you took all that energy and effort into your products and coming up with new ways for them to be utilized, everyone would win. You’d have more customers (instead of declining customers), and the customers would have a better experience.

    1. Apple’s customer count is not declining. It’s increasing. Apple’s main product is innovation. Apple spends way more money on research and development than it does on legal fees. So you’re saying just continue to spend hundreds of millions of dollars on R&D, and never mind that Samsung and Google immediately steal and copy that product without paying compensation. So you’d be happy if you paid $50,000 for a new car, and your neighbor copied the ignition key and used that car whenever he felt like it, because it’s just too much trouble and too expensive to do anything about it. You should just buy more cars.

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