Florian Mueller reports for FOSS Patents, “The ITC website shows that yesterday Samsung filed complaint no. 337-2824 concerning the follownig types of products:
Mobile Electronic Devices, Including Wireless Communication Devices, Portable Music and Data Processing Devices, and Tablet Computer
“[T]he proposed respondent is Apple Inc., Cupertino, California.”
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Mueller reports, “The combination of the accused products and the defendant means that Samsung is asking for an import ban against the iPhone, iPad and iPod. If the ITC agrees to investigate such a complaint (which is pretty certain to happen here), a final decision is reached within 16 to 18 months.”
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Samsung and everyone else made phones first. Then came Apple.
Yes, and phones have never been so good since.
That statement is true enough, I was just wondering what you meant by it though?
And monkeys preceded man. I guess you’ve still not evolved beyond the arboreal stage.
In “theory.”
Woah dude! So you’re saying we devolved into monkeys (and big Korean conglomerates)? Or you one of those (albeit too many) poor saps who still believes some old guy in the sky “invented” us to amuse himself?
Well, I still believe that Algore “invented” the Internet.
As the previous owner of a few different Samsung phones, I’d have to say that they didn’t become interesting until they started copying Apple.
Cavemen wiped their ass on grass after going poopee. Good thing someone invented the toilet paper. Or are you protesting and continuing to wipe your ass on grass when you go poopee? LOL
Really? I haven’t come across a Kleenex phone yet.
yes..they did. unfortunately for them they all sucked and that left the door open for Apple to come in and show them how to build a good one.. now they want to cry about it.
In the same token Henry Ford did not invent the Automobile,but he did figure out how to set up a more efficient assembly lone for mass production. It is not about who did what first, but reinvention and what comes after
yep Marco, that’s what this is all about, who made the first phone.
But Marco, apple made it beautiful from day 1. Before apple, all phone ui’s were horrid and kept crashing. iOS is so elegant and functional, that’s why everyone else tries to copy apple.
So true. I needed only a very basic cell phone for emergencies, travel and such. I picked up a pre-paid Samsung on sale from T-Mobile. The user experience – menus, functionality, user interface – is just horrid. After an iPod touch I’ve clearly been spoiled.
Apple should leave Samsung; they are simply not honest ..
Here’s to hoping Apple can quickly and completely extract themselves from all contracts (chips, screens) with these juvenile Korean wanna-bes.
Half right. Samsung and everyone else made phones. Apple never really has. They make a mobile computing device that can also be used to make cellular voice calls. To put the iPhone on the same level as the things Samsung and everyone else made before the iPhone i just wrong.
It seems that China and it’s Taiwan bastard is a cesspool of thiefery, rip-off and scumbaggery.
You would think by now these cultures could contribute something more than just steal and cheat to the world.
I guess not.
What do China and Taiwan have to do with a Korean company?
A Chinese and Jew ended up sitting across from each other in a train. Suddenly, the Jew slapped the Chinese.
Chinese: “What was that for?”
Jew: “Pearl Harbor.”
Chinese: “That was the Japanese. I’m Chinese.”
Jew: “Chinese, Japanese, Korean …. You’re all the same.”
After some deep thought, the Chinese slapped the Jew.
Jew: “What was that for?”
Chinese: “The Titanic.”
Jew: “Dude, the ship was sunk by an iceberg.”
Chinese: “Iceberg, Spielberg, Katzenberg ….You’re all the same.”
This is stupidity in the highest !!!
I deal with Asia in another field and they are the same. They copy, don’t innovate and like to sue you and say it was theirs first.
Well, if Apple wasn’t POd before, they are now. Samsung’s lawyers are acting alot like those Shyster lawyers, or the Iraqi information minister. Just ridiculous amounts of hubris. I didn’t think the original suits would cause a breach in the current supplier relationship, but now I’m not so sure. If they don’t settle out-of-court soon, Samsung can say goodbye to the billions in orders they receive from Apple. Who has more to lose? Samsung, because Apple is surely preparing for a new supplier. NAND flash is generic. Another chip foundry like Taiwan Semi can make the A5/6. Screens can come from LG Display. I just don’t get Samsung’s thinking. Do they really want to lose their biggest customer?
Samseng [= a gangster] makes more profits from Apple’s custom than they made on their own crappy phones.
Well, it looks like Samsung has learned well the old business adage, “When you can’t compete in the Free Market, litigate.”
It’s a form of protectionism cloaked in Nationalism.
“Boo-hoo, those mean Americans are so unfair… we need to ‘protect’ our Korean-made products by banning Apple products from being sold in *our* country. It’s for the good of the people.”
Banning Apple products from being legally sold in Korea will NOT ensure that Samsung’s products will sell more, it will only mean that the smuggling of Apple products into Korea will increase.
Samsung is pissing into the wind. They’re gonna get very wet and, they may lose Apple as a customer in the process.
SJ *hates* being backed into a corner by relying on a single supplier for anything. Expect there to be serious repercussions for Samsung for biting the hand that feeds it a huge part of its business. Heads will roll over this.
Someone missed what the article was about.
Samsung wants to ban Apple from importing into the USA. That’s why this is filed with the US ITC.
They’re shameless!
“Samsung files U.S. ITC complaint against Apple: Long-time partners heading for ugly divorce?”
Yep, no question about it. Samsung, say buh bye to the tens of billions (and accelerating) Apple spends on supplies each year. Don’t bite the hand that feeds you.
Expect suppliers from Japan, Taiwan, and China to benefit the most. I also stop buying Samsung products.
Let me get this straight. A company is asking their government to ban imports of a competing product to make it easier to sell their crap to their own countrymen? If this were to happen, why wouldn’t the USA do the same? Apple could survive not selling to Korea but would Samsung survive if N. America (we would happily support our American neighbours here in Canada) did the same?
The problem is that in Korea, Samsung and a handful of other big companies virtually have the government in their pockets. If the U.S. retaliated, expect their government to start putting all sorts of blackmaily pressure on Washington. But things don’t work the same way over here.
And then watch the fireworks as the US cuddles up to the N. Koreans – what a market that would be. they could even launch a new hi-tech outfit there called Slamstung. And they’d make the A look like an A instead of an upside-down V.
You may have gotten it wrong.
Samsung has filed with the US ITC to prevent Apple from importing its products into the US not Korea. Remember Apple’s products are made in China so they must be imported to the US. In response Apple would file a counter claim to prevent Samsung from importing its offending products from being imported to the US for sale.
Apple has closed one door with samsung , the question will suppliers now have the upper hand to demand more price?
Who else can Apple go to ?
In all this “war” we will bear the brunt of the cost !!
This is bad !
I think you are all missing the point.
Some group wants Samsung to extricate themselves from Apple’s supplier chain, and Samsung seems to be buying into the pressure. Maybe Samsung is part of that group. Since Apple has most of the supply chain sewn up for the critical components (touch display, processor), who would stand to benefit from Apple not getting these items from Samsung? I think you can bet every penny you own that some other companies would come knocking on Samsung’s door for these components if Apple left. I think those companies seem to believe that if they could have access to higher quality components, in better sizes and quantities (i.e., economy of scale), that their offerings would suddenly become more price and quality competitive, especially if Apple was suddenly unable to get these components for its product anymore.
Who, besides Samsung, could *possibly* benefit from this scenario?
Let’s just hope that Apple hasn’t tied themselves down to a single supplier for critical components like they did at first with Motorola for the PPC G4 processor.
I’m just waiting to see what good all those patents Apple received is worth. Seems to me that the whole world is copying them in some form, especially in the mobile/phone/tablet market. Clearly there is the BA and AA (Before Apple / After Apple) delineation in mobile tech. Just go back 4 years and look back from there over the preceding 10-15 years. Not much changed, and a real hodgepodge of UIs and very simple menu systems, lousy media integration if at all. Since 4 years ago (iPhone) everyone has just jumped on the touch interface with gestures, pinch zoom, scroll with bounce, etc… even the physical phones attempt to look as much like iPhones as possible. And they’re getting away with it (thanks to Google) and a new generation of users who probably don’t even realize how much Apple changed the world. Yet, no patent seems to have kicked in protecting Apple’s intellectual property from the scavenging copycat Asian companies…
Despite all that, Apple still leads the way (copycats by definition can’t lead…) but it would really be nice if competitors really competed in the forward-thinking, idea arena, instead of just copying Apples trendsetting technology and trying to sell it cheaper or cater to the anti-Apple crowd with cruder versions of essentially the same damn thing. I’m sure one day some of the patents Apple filed and won will actually kick in for them, as they have for other companies where Apple settled (Nokia.) But so far I haven’t seen it. And we all know Nokia actually invented the iPhone, right?? They just were waiting for the right time to sell it to Microsoft, right?