“Apple removed a notorious anthem of the Nazi Party from the German version of its iTunes online music store on Wednesday,” Eric Kelsey reports for Reuters.
“Named after a young party activist killed in 1930, the marching song ‘Horst Wessel Lied,’ was the unofficial anthem of the Nazis until it was banned in Germany at the end of World War Two,” Kelsey reports. “The Apple spokesman said it had been taken off iTunes but did not say if other Nazi-era songs had also been removed.”
Kelsey reports, “The Apple spokesman said the anthem had taken off iTunes, but did not say if other songs popular with neo-Nazis in Germany had also been removed.”
Full article here.
[Thanks to MacDailyNews Readers too numerous to mention individually for the heads up.]
Huh? How did it get on there if it was banned by the German gov in the first place?
Will App Store haters point to this as yet another example of Nazi Apple policing its stores and restricting freedom and openness?
Surely you can find it on Amazon still…
I guess Eddie Izzard won’t be humming this one any more.
Not that he’s a Nazi.
You really need to have seen the relevant show to get this post, I suppose…
Thank goodness! Apple has undoubtedly saved the world from the certain rise of the Fourth Reich.
I’ll take the Nazi anthem any day over that puke garbage you call rap.
Ironic considering they just teamed up with Fox News.
Wow a thread where it’s actually legit to throw around the word “Nazi’.
Stupid.
Are we going to ban Wagner as well? He wasn’t a Nazi (lived before that time), but he was anti-Jew and his music was praised because of that.
So how did it get there in the first place?
I have been to Germany, anything Nazi is banned by the government. Only stuff I did see was in one of the museums I took a guided tour of in Berlin, and they were very silent during the 1933-1945 era.
Wagner never wrote lyrics extolling Hitler and the stormtroopers by name, nor was Wagner cast by Goebbels as a martyr of the Nazi movement.
I never knew it was there.
ObeyTheFist, the Nazis were socialists, leftists.
The people at Fox News are conservatives, not the same thing.
Read your history.
MDN word: growth, as experience some growth
@x Call me a Nazi if you want, but I agree with you.
Todays Trivia:
The US Coast Guard Academy’s training sailing ship the <a href=”http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USCGC_Eagle_(WIX-327)”> was taken from Nazi Germany as war reparation after WWII. It’s name under the Germans? Horst Wessel.
That link for the USCG Eagle:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USCGC_Eagle_(WIX-327)
Oh, I love these politically symbolic BanHammers! They ban a marching tune, ban Kiss for having “SS” in their name, but will they ban the Volkswagen that was made *by* the Nazis? Oh no, we like that one too much! Not a problem at all. Really.
And what other apps has Apple removed. This is not news.
@Mark S:
Bull. Fucking. Shit. It’s universally agreed that their extreme fascist ideology placed them on the far-right of the political spectrum.
The Nazis may have called themselves socialist in name, but were not in practice. Otherwise, you must agree that North Korea is really a democracy (DPRK = Democratic People’s Republic of Korea).
Nice try rewriting history just because the Nazis are inconveniently in “your half” of the spectrum.
Mossman
In terms of American politics, he was more left wing than right. Hitler advocated socialist policies including universal access to healthcare, cradle to grave welfare, government control of virtually ever aspect of citizens’ lives etc. While he had some traits in common with conservatives, including nationalism (love for ones country), and a large military, most of his policies were indeed left wing. Part of his philosophy was anti-capitalist, capitalism is pure right.
I’m glad Apple did this.
I’m glad that Apple did this and is proactive.
@mossman
Fascism doesn’t really fit into any “half.” Sure, socialists and communists are from the left, and anarchists are from the right, but none of them espouse hatred of an entire race, it’s about political and economic ideology.
And, judging by your tone, I’m sure you’ll come back with something saying that Republicans and/or Tea Partiers DO hate entire races/creeds, but if you honestly believe that then you are the one full of bull fucking shit.
@ Mark S.
You stupid, stupid, vitriolic little troll. Learn what these words actually mean. And please stop belieeeeving in any political “side” like a religious dogma. Anyone who thinks any particular party or political current has “The Truth” is not looking and is not thinking.
I’m confused by these posts. Our constitution says
“promote the general Welfare”. Wouldn’t that make
our Founding Fathers ‘socialists’, ‘communist’, and
‘liberals’ ???
if you think of the political spectrum as extending from no organized government (anarchists) to complete, totalitarian government then it makes it a bit easier to see where everyone fits. it also makes it easier to understand why germany and the u.s.s.r. would have a treaty and generally get along with each other until the soviets semi-surprise attack on germany. the specific policies just confuse the issue sometimes.
@MrMcLargeHuge
Please don’t put words in my mouth. I’d never go so far as to say Republicans or Tea Partiers in their current form go that far.
Now, perhaps it’s fair to say the Nazis *originally* were for social welfare, healthcare, and other traditionally left-wing ideology, but that ended after Hitler took over, since he banned the communist and socialist parties soon after. Political leanings change with time, and what political party hasn’t lied about intentions to get into power?
They don’t fit nicely on a one-dimensional political sliding scale, but within that scale, it’s agreed that during their time in power they were (and neo-Nazis today are) far right.
I’ve run across Mark S’ line of argument before, attempting to repaint the Nazis and sometimes even islamic (religious) extremists as “left wing” because they can’t stand the thought that the bad guys share more traits with their own side than the other. It’s revisionist history, and it’s pathetic.
Lest anyone jump on my wording, yes Hitler eventually banned all other political parties, but the left-wing ones were banned first.
Ah, the glorious Nazi anthem. How does it go, again?
Vhen der Fuhrer says “Ve are der master race!”
Then ve heil (HEIL!) heil (HEIL!) right in der Fuhrer’s face!
Not to love der Fuhrer would be a big disgrace,
So ve heil (HEIL!) heil (HEIL!) right in der Fuhrer’s face!
——RM
“I Was Not a Nazi Polka” by The Chas Mitchell Trio is not available on iTunes either.
Hogan’s Heroes is next.
Wow, and here in the U.S. iTunes Store, we can still buy “The Third Reich’s Military Music Archives: Military Music of Nazi Germany,” Volumes One, Two AND Three.
http://itunes.apple.com/us/album/third-reichs-military-music/id318196269
Not very easy listening, though.
Nazis are leftist from the left. They are in the same category as the communists. If you read this article by the libertarian Ludwig Von Mises Institute, it will explain that naziism and communism were the extreme offsprings of socialism.
http://mises.org/daily/1937
>ObeyTheFist, the Nazis were socialists, leftists.
The people at Fox News are conservatives, not the same thing.
Read your history.<
Not according to my pinko old uncle.
I suggest you read your history too.
I take it you can actually read.
@Mr. Tuttle,
Sorry to bust your bubble, but the Nazis were right-wingers, just like you (apparently). Every historian (well, except professor Glenn Beck) in the world will tell you that.
You’re and people like you are proof positive that the US education system needs a serious overhaul.
Geeone
Looks like you didn’t read the earlier posts either.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki?search=Facism
Perhaps some further reading is required by the ignorant masses?
When your nations corporations and government become one, either institutionally or otherwise, you become a fascist state. Especially characterized by overt nationalism and warmongering.
Americas politicos and CEOs are commingling to such a degree which could, to a dispassionate observer, be seen as a proto-fascist state. Hail Bush, hail Haliburton, hail Obama, hail GE.
Left or right is not really a concern so much as a distraction to keep the poor from sussing out the rich will do all they need to to enforce a social strata which is entirely biased towards them.
The man next to you is your brother.
@Macromancer- Yeah… this one came with Godwin built right in!
@ Mr. Turtle:
Nazis and Commies are COMPLETELY different things. GIYF
Then ban all the Zionist songs as well. They are ten times worse than the Nazis ever were and thousands of YouTube videos prove it beyond a shadow of a doubt.
Oh geez I almost forgot…..we can’t say anything negative about Israel, now can we?
@Mr. Tuttle
Strange, when NSAP came to power they got their votes from the middle and right, not from the left. Or are you saying that the middle and right voters suddenly went left?
@Backlash
Of course I did. FYI visiting Germany doesn’t make you an expert on anything. I GUARANTEE you that any German would laugh in your (or any American conservative’s) face if you came to them with the notion that Hitler and the Nazis were leftists. That simply flies in the face of reality and historical fact.
The sad thing is, the US has probably the most comprehensive exhibits on Hitler, Nazis and their right-wing agenda (including a very fascinating -and disturbing- display of how the Nazi propaganda machine worked) at the Holocaust Museum in Washington DC, yet every conservative I’ve ever observed at the museum are completely oblivious to the parallels between what the Nazis did back then and what their conservative heroes Beck, Limbaugh, O’Reilly, Hannity, Levin, Savage, etc. are doing today.
Getting people to live in denial, demonizing your political opponents with negative -and often violent (directly or indirectly)- rhetoric, promoting ignorance as a virtue, and rewriting (or reinterpreting) historical facts were all hallmarks of Nazi propaganda and are tactics that are being used to great effect by conservative media figures and politicians in the US today.
People (like yourself, unfortunately) who believe that the Nazis were leftists / liberals / socialists are a prime example of this.
Funny how the Nazi party suddenly is being labeled as left-wing (communists) after commonly being accepted as right-wing (fascists) by republicans and democrats alike for 50 years that followed WII.
FOX News is trying to rewrite history.
Leftists (communists) during that time didn’t believe in private property. The Right (Fascists) like the Nazis were big on private enterprise and corporations.
What part of National Socialist Workers Party don’t you people don’t get?
Right wing?
Get real!
Well the Germans like to outlaw things, don’t they. ;p
First, like anything in this world, definitions change with time, as do the context of the terms.
What defined the Nazi movement in the 30’s and 40’s was it’s attempted genocide, and the murders of millions. They might have been fascists, socialists or social democrats, or some bastardization of the terms – it simply does not matter. They were Nazis – they killed millions for their social, political, and economic ambitions – and seemingly had little moral restraint while doing so.
Similarly, the former Soviet Union cannot simply be called communist – they were Leninist and Stalinist – bastardizations of true pure communism, which again was a bastardization of Marxism.
By the same measure, our little representative democratic republic is far from a pure democracy and far from being truly representative, and barely a republic – if we try to apply these terms vigorously.
What’s really wacky is that Leftist’s here are trying to play a game of “your guy is worse than ours”.
For the blindly stupid progressives that wish to tread down that path?
Joseph Stalin. Left as hell. Murdered MILLIONS more than Hitler.
Communist China. Left as hell. Murdered MILLIONS more than Hitler.
You want more?
Pol Pot. I can go on and on and on and on about murderous Leftists, care to take that bet?
Mark S is right and you bunch of stupid little idiots who think that that the Nazi party was far right are a bunch of idiots that listen to too much mainstream media.
Thanks, steve32465!
Moo: I haven’t seen anyone here claiming that the communist equivalents of the Nazis aren’t bad guys. In fact, I see several commenters claiming that communism is a leftist philosophy as they correct the ignorant claim that fascism is leftist. You right wingers, under the corporate direction of News Corp, have embraced this false claim, this rewriting of history, over the past 3 or 4 years with a hungry fervor. It’s ironic that you don’t see how much like the Nazis you all are.
All political philosophy talk aside, in America, who do the Neonazis vote for? Republican candidates. Under which party’s banner do they run for office? The GOP. Where do they live? Red states. Nazis are on the right. If you can’t understand this, I should dismiss you as an ignorant, partisan, automaton and stop arguing with you.
@Mark S.: What part of National Socialist Workers Party don’t you people don’t get?
Right wing?
Get real!
Re-read my first response to you. I was called out on my “attitude”, but obviously it was too moderate a response to your wanton ignorance and blatant denial of reality.
Let me rephrase it so you’ll understand: By your twisted logic North Korea is democratic, because they include it in their official (translated) name, i.e. “Democratic People’s Republic of Korea.”
Reality: actions speak louder than words. No matter what they called themselves to get into power, at their peak and fall they were extreme right-wing.
You’re in their half of the political spectrum. Get used to it and enjoy the company.
And by “they” I meant the Nazis, not North Korea; i.e. at their peak and fall the Nazis were extreme right-wing.
Take a look at Jerry Pournelle’s 2-axis view of political systems; it does a MUCH better job differentiating between, say Facism and Communism which both appear to behave very similarly but are radically opposed.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pournelle_chart
I have always thought of the “political spectrum” as somewhat circular; those who get too far to either the right or left become indistinguishable. MAD Magazine had a wonderful treatment of this several decades back.
@GeeOne- your simple generalization of american conservatives shows your total ignorance of american politics. I do not know if you are an american but to compare to Glenn Beck to Adolf Hitler shows how small your thinking is. Show me a direct quote from Glen Beck or Rush Limbaugh that evens comes close to what Adolf Hitler, Joesph Stalin, Benito Mussolini, Hideki Tojo was giving speeches about and writing. You are a typical leftist that can not back up what you are talking about.
@MacFinder- other than the color of the armband, and uniform, both systems are totalitarian,they both expouse the control by a few elites (who know better than the masses, both ban trade unions, both restrict freedoms, etc. Show me the differences
@Helge- I think Mr. Tuttle never said that the Nazis got their votes from the just the left. Are you asinine? Of course the majority of the Germans voted for who they thought was going to get them out of their economic mess. Many people were desperate enough to vote for the man that brought them order to this chaotic time in Germany.
My question is : If Nazis are right wing, why did they not ask the Kaiser Wilhelm ,that fled Germany after World War 1, to return back to power. Since by definition right wingers are conservative, they would be asking the Kaiser to be back in power. Why were the Prussian officer class of the German Army hated Hitler since if Hitler was a fellow right winger, he would have been welcome in open arms by the so called rightwing/conservatives.
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