MacDailyNews Take: Too easy.
Electronista reports, “Notably missing from the invitation graphic is Palm, which was bought by HP and originally created webOS; HP may be phasing out the Palm name.”
MacDailyNews Take: Defunct.
Electronista reports, “The event is expected to feature at least one phone, and perhaps more significantly the first-ever webOS tablet in the form of the [10-inch] Topaz.”
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MacDailyNews Take: Because the world is crying out — crying out, we tell you! — for yet another pretend iPad without a third-party ecosystem from a printer company. And webOS hasn’t failed enough times already.
34 days for target practice for MDN posters. Way too easy.
WebOS is perfect for a tablet. Better than iOS. Problem with it though is not many apps. But if it takes off, that will change.
All the iPad is is a giant iPod Touch. I like it, and I like the bigger screen for web browsing, some games, and a few apps. But the operating system is identical to the iPhone’s. No differentiation. The WebOS is much better suited for a larger slate-device.
Apple needs to differentiate iOS a bit more for its tablet. For example, why not allow widgets on the iPad? Imagine, 6 or 7 widgets all running on the same screen at one time. Stock ticker, Twitter feed, weather widget, etc. Android already does this, and it works great on the Galaxy Tab.
We get none of this from Apple. Look to Android and WebOS to be Apple’s competitors this year.
@asdf,
Apple is Apple’s main competitor.
@asdf
Sure, why don’t you call Jobs and tell him how to run his business because unlike you, he doesn’t seem to have a clue.
Reverse Polish web browsing?
Android is like the carnival blowing into town. Cheap cacophony.
No thanks. One action at a time done well. Just like a clear-headed thinker.
Why didn’t these asswipes just go ahead and call their even Think Different and openly steal Apple’s slogan. It gets more and more embarrassing.
@asdf…
I call astroturfing on ya… how exactly is WebOS perfect for a tablet, and how do you know about a product that hasn’t been introduced yet?
iPhone & iPad have the best OS for small product form factors… that’s why others attempt to copy Apple and not the other way around.
@Monger – LOL. I still have my HP-11C from my college days, bought it used from someone who wanted to upgrade to a graphing calculator – still works; the 11C was/is a great little device. Very well built.
Peace.
All the iPad is is a giant iPod Touch. I like it, and I like the bigger screen for web browsing, some games, and a few apps. But the operating system is identical to the iPhone’s. No differentiation. The WebOS is much better suited for a larger slate-device.
I see 2 issues with this statement.
First, the iPad and the iPhone have discrete versions of iOS, customized for each device and their respective specs.
Second, please explain how WebOS is better suited for a tablet.
Nice timing HP. It had to be just barely early enough so that whatever gets announced is not made obsolete by iPad 2.0. Yet it is probably not an “available today” announcement, so whatever is announced WILL be obsolete by the time it IS available.
Actually, anything in the pipeline from Apple’s competition is already mostly obsolete compared to iPad 1.0, so I guess it really doesn’t matter too much…
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Kinda reminds me Palm releasing the Pre just a few DAYS before Apple released iPhone 3GS, while also keeping the previous iPhone model in the lineup at $99. Made obsolete AND over-priced over a weekend. HP picks up where Palm left off.
And on February 18th Apple announces earnings and maybe Verizon intentions, if not sooner…
“All the iPad is is a giant iPod Touch.”
Get it right.. The iPhone and iPod touch are nothing but small iPads!
Oh yeah …
” Android already does this, and it works great on the Galaxy Tab.”
And we all know how things are going for Androne Tablets (talk about something being nothing more than a giant phone).
‘Think big. Think small. Think beyond.’
Why did HP not use, “Think Different” ?
Did someone else already use that?
Who could it have been, that one who came first, and used the best slogan before anyone else?
“Who?! Who?! Who could it have been?!”, I ask.
I hope the instructions for using the devises are better than with their printers where the English is no more comprehensible than the 38 other languages they provided. Thankfully I just guessed what I had to do from the Klingon versions and finally got it to work on my wireless network.
Oh boy, and it’s only, like, a few years behind and they’re starting over from scratch. Way to go H-P.
I am so freaking excited. I am going to wet myself.
Make that January 18th…
an ipad is nothing like an ipod touch
only people who havent used one would say such a thing
HPalm: “because we cannot think of a better way to compete than to copy everything Apple does. Since the rumors is Apple will announce something before 2/14, we will stage our event as late as possible so not be be trumped by the Apple event.”
Next thing you know a HP store will be opening near Union Square, with lots of glass, sales staff in colorful T-shirts, and a Hands-On Bar…
I, for one, am incensed at MDN’s assessment of HP as a Printer Company.
Everyone on Earth over 40 knows HP is a Pocket Calculator Company.
“HP to make ‘exciting’ webOS announcement on February 9th”
Apple to make announcements whenever they damn well please and we all know they will be exciting.
If an iPad is like an iPod touch or iPhone then howcis a android tab any different?
I love my iPad 64 GB 3G and will buy the iPad 2 as soon as it is released, but I would like to be able to have access to widgets on the home screen. At least I think I do…
Oh Boy! Now, instead of webOS controlling my printer, it can control my water heater too! Brave new world indeed!!
Well i agree, why can’t there be 2 or 3 small apps running on the home screen.
Or can I have a list of my 300 apps?
Silly me, why would I need a list for 300 apps?
And there will be some people, Apple Haters, who will love webOS like they love Android, Windows and Palm OS simply because it’s not from Apple no matter how crummy it really is.
Honestly, I think HP with webOS is likely the only company that might be able to provide a real competitive option to apple’s iOS devices. As long as HP figures out they need an iTunes like software.
Think beyond, as in “dead on arrival.”
But it’s no wonder that corporate America keeps coming up with these inane slogans. Virtually the entire advertising industry treats consumers like retarded 12-year olds. The question is: which came first, stupid commercials or stupid consumers? They’re all stupid now.
@ asdf
Betters than iOS and you haven’t even seen HP OS in action. LOL!
Think big = tablet/slate
Think small = phone
Think beyond is HP’s attempt at mimicking “Think Different”
They even copy Apple’s long time slogan as much as they dare…
Think beyond = Paranormal.
So, it will communicate with the dead and aliens and even … dead aliens!
The iPad is only a large iPhone? Funny. You act like that’s a bad thing. “It’s only a large version of an incredible, successful device.”
HP?? I like the sauce.
“all an iPad is, is a larger iPod/iPhone”
That was my exact thoughts when the iPad was announced. I said the iPad would flop, or sell a few… But not be a big hit.
Then I walked into bestbuy after it launched. The crowd was thinning enough around the two iPad demos they had, so I figured I’d mess with it.
If they were not sold out… I’d be typing this in on the iPad.
Everytime I walk into the apple store or a bestbuy… I have to remind myself that the iPad 2 is not far off…
And now I just have to decide if I get the 3G and just swap my iPhone’s sim, or keep my iPhone jailbroken and get the wifi and just tether if I need Internet and there is no wifi I can easily join.
HP making a slate…. I’m pretty sure it’s going to flop.
I’ve now played with an android tablet…. Gone back and forth between the iPad and a galaxy tab at bestbuy playing with each, there is no contest there. the galaxy sucks.
It’s not the hardware, the OS just sucks. Clunky at best.
And I love the android defenders. “wait til the next version”. Makes me laugh everytime.
Granted I have not played with anything webOS at all. But I have dealt with HP in the past, and dealing with one at work now…
I generally dislike anything HP.
They make good printers, and lousy software and PC’s.
Good comments — it’s obvious to anyone that HP has an uphill fight. One thing I admire about this is that before Palm they would have just gone with Windows or Android and certainly we’d be laughing about that. History may say those (or nothing at all) would have been better options, but this is somewhat interesting to watch. Better than the pitiful Dell 5″ Android thing.
Since it has a iteration of Palm’s “PRE” WebOS, might it be called PREadolescence or PREpubescent?
H.P. –> Hugh Problem!!
Good Lord, HP and other companies still don’t get it. I firmly believe they will never get it.
It is NOT any single Apple product make Apple so great, it is the Apple eco-system consist of iPod, iPhone, iPad, iTunes, iOS, Mac OS X, Mac, Apple Stores, Steve Jobs, Tim Cook, user experiences, customer services…etc make it such an attractive tech company.
While every Apple wannabe company out there playing catchup, Apple continue to innovate and enrich its shareholders.
In other words Think Different presented by Mr. Rubinstein .. hh
How much will the frigging ink cartridges for the tablet cost?.
Frigging HP
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Think big = Tricorder
Think small = Communicator
Think beyond = Voice Activated Cloud computing up to the Starship Enterprise’s computer
…somehow I think that HP’s going to fall short of my expectations.
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Clearly, HP is going to announce that they are withdrawing from the tablet market and will no longer be impeding it’s progress. That would be exciting!
@BigAlsMBP – In the ’60s and ’70s HP was like Apple, in their field. If you wanted the best, you just bought HP. The instruments and calculators were cutting edge, easy to use and they just worked. The ’80 and ’90s printers were bulletproof. I think some are still in service today. But that all ended in 1999, when the instruments division, the heart of the company, was spun off to become Agilent, still a well respected instrument maker. The remnants became the current HP, in name only, under CEO Carly Fiorina. We all know how well that went.
So, our well loved calculator and instrument company lives under the non-name Agilent, and the husk of HP continues to shrivel.
I’m soooo excited!! This is going to be, like, the biggest thing since…wait…oh. It’s actually a really big Palm phone…except…not as good.
Anyway…anybody check out the new paint on the wall? It’s a really lovely shade of off-white, and the drying time is really quite impressive.
@lurker
Too true. The HP Laserjet 2’s and 3’s were great. Many of those were running over a decade later, still churning out great hardcopy. Once great companies are outsourcing, spinning off, or otherwise squandering their original sources of greatness. HP is a good example. So is Sony. In the 1980s and early 1990s many people were willing to pay a little more for Sony because you would seldom go wrong. That changed in the mid-1990s. Sony may have regained some of that quality in recent years. Even so, it will take a long while to regain the reputation. That is why Apple has to protect its brand at all costs.
Another example that is important to me is Sears. In my youth Sears was the place to go for hand tools (if you couldn’t afford Snap-On). My parents helped me to gradually build a large set of Craftsman hand tools over a number of birthdays and Christmases to give me a good start when I set out on my own. Sometime around 2000, Sears introduced the budget “Companion” brand without the lifetime guarantee and also outsourced Craftsman tool production overseas. The result, IMO, is that the quality of the Craftsman brand has gone downhill. Just like HP and Sony, Sears lost it.
In a month or so: ” HP to make webOS exiting announcement”
Too much hatin’ going on. Have any of you actually owned and used a Palm Pre+? WebOS is a beautiful mobile OS and will make an very good tablet platform. Its implementation of multitasking alone will make it a nice experience. It’s far superior to Android’s fragmented mess of a UI, and it makes WP7 look like a Fisher-Price toddler toy.
HP does need to get serious about apps though. Since it acquired Palm, there has been little growth. Nothing like what I hoped for.
I own an iPhone 4, 3GS, & 1st Gen. I also have a Palm Pre+, LG Windows Phone 7. I’ve also owned some HTC Android phones.
I work for AT&T, so I get to try them all.
Let me end by saying I am a longtime Apple shareholder, as well as Macintosh, iPod, iPhone owner.
I just wanted to add some balance to this parade of WebOS hatery.