“For months we’ve been hearing that tablet PCs – led by Apple’s iPad – are hurting netbook sales in a big way,” Jeff Bertolucci reports for PC World. “But are they really?”
“For now, touchscreen tablets appear to be luring consumers away from netbooks but analysts believe in the long term, netbooks will hold their own in an increasingly fragmented mobile device market, particularly as computer makers address user complaints by enhancing netbooks with faster processors and new capabilities,” Bertolucci reports.
“Netbook shipments in the US fell 34 percent from the third quarter of 2009 to the same period in 2010, according to research firm Gartner. The likely culprit? A certain tablet from Apple comes to mind,” Bertolucci reports. “”
Full article here.
We need to make the iPad independent of a Mac/PC
“tablet PCs lead by the iPad”
The most complete bullshit statement floating around the news today, somewhere between Bagdad Bob’s “we’re crushing them beneath our feet” and Bush’s comical “Mission Accomplished” aboard the aircraft carrier.
Try losing the “tablet PCs lead by” and just say iPad. Tablet PCs were around for 10 years and did squat and are still doing squat, or less than squat.
You sure aren’t hearing much about netbooks these days unless it’s a story like this wondering where they went.
Here’s the answer. They were a sh*tty alternative to a laptop to begin with and were a solution looking for a problem.
And yeah, “pc tablets” indeed. Give me a break
Is this the same device that wasn’t gonna go over to well cause it looked like a iPod on steroids? LOL. Well it was one purchase I will never regret.
Has Apple’s iPad killed the netbook?
Impossible. Many netbooks run some variant of the venerable and widely regarded Microsoft Windows. That’s what consumers want. MAC has yet to figure this out and simply license Windows to save themselves.
The unlikely few people who buy I-Pads would have to learn a whole new operating system made by a company with a sad history of overpriced, proprietary, toy-like products. People know Windows, netbooks are inexpensive compared to MAC and there are way more programs for Windows. Even some MAC fangirls can figure it out.
Nice attention grabbing headline MDN, but the reality is netbooks are alive and well–especially the ones running Windows.
The question we should be asking is ‘Have netbooks killed MAC’s I-Pads?’
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@Zune
Well said, sir. Always refreshing to get your insights to set us straight. I am selling my AAPL monday. Thanks so much.
Welcome back, Zune!
Hey ZT, what’s your take on Android? I need direction.
@Jd
Why? That makes no sense!
In response to the question in the title; Yes!
Now move on please.
I love Zune Tang and miss him when he’s not around!
@Zune Tang®: “The question we should be asking is ‘Have netbooks killed MAC’s I-Pads?'”
@HughB: “I am selling my AAPL monday”
Awwww, crap, ’nuff said. Count me out, too.
Let’s hope not ’cause I may want an 11″ MacBook Air sometime next year
@ZT nice to see you back. What happened did that “netbook” of yours break?
While Zune was running Registry Mechanic he suffered a BSOD, thus explaining his long absence.
Get a Mac Zune, we want to see you more often!.
I wonder if the new iPad can run FaceTime with both the front & back cameras enabled at the same time so I can sit in front of a mirror and chat with myself.
A better question would be, “Does Apple have the perfect netbook killer combination?” One part iPad, one part iPhone/iPod touch, and one part 11.6 MacBook Air. All are in a class of their own.
@Wingsy
Not only that, but with several mirrors and a little practice you will be able to perform self-administered group therapy.
Reading analysts is amusing as long as you don’t take them too seriously.
Netbooks being impacted by iPad is a myth says one in the article ‘perpetuated by Apple fanatics’. Another says netbook sales are down due to bad economy etc. and not the iPad.
Analyst dudes : if the bad economy etc is pushing down netbook sales how do you account for booming ipad sales? (I’m not making light of people suffering in the economic crisis but I think if you make a GREAT enough product it’s going to sell bad economy or not. Netbooks obviously are not compelling enough.)
@ Davewrite
I find netbooks quite compelling. I feel compelled to giggle every time I walk by someone trying to be productive with one…
Just yesterday I saw a pharmacy rep using a netbook with a touchscreen, but she had to use a stylus – not her finger. I never once saw the screen respond to the first “touch” – on average, it took about 3. Although she joked that her shoulders got a good workout trying to get it to work.
zune tang -I don’t get it – your posts are I’m a an MS slave so I have to post this – where is your self worth ? Do you really just live just to look at mac stuff and post what you think ballmer would like ?
Ballmer doesn’t care man – he allegedly fired someone cause they didn’t say bing enthusiastically enough – if you want to fight for something fight for something useful. I think the phrase is have a good hard look at yourself !!
THe stuff on this website that you are responding to is because people care about the product they are proud to own not because people want to try to protect a shit product via monopoly
“address user complaints by enhancing netbooks with faster processors and new capabilities”.
In other words, the net book is becoming a small laptop. Nobody is killing the net book. The net book is killing itself.
Netbooks are their own worse enemy. The majority of Netbook owners have learned their lesson and have move on to a real computer or a iPad.
Netbooks are never going to be big deals because there’s no profit in them. PC makers acknowledge they have razor-thin margins on netbooks; they were just trying to catch cheap consumers who wanted cheap mobile devices. Once something better came along, poof, consumers disappeared.
PC makers will never put much money or design time into netbooks because they can’t: there just isn’t enough profit in them.
Netbooks are a punch line in search of a joke.
ZuneTang is a lemming!
Welcome back ZT Dude.
@simon
Welcome, you must be new here.
Guess we haven’t beaten the shit out of this headline enough.
Analysts are trying so hard not to use iPad as the name of the tablet category like iPod has become the name of the MP3 player category. I think they’ll fail. One day soon, they’ll all be known as iPads.
You, sir, are an unmitigated ass. The banner to which you refer aboard the USS Lincoln is raised at the end of every successful tour our brave sailors make in the Pacific and elsewhere around the world. Bush did not raise the banner, sir. Our fighting men and women did, and it would have been there with or without the President’s appearance there and then.
You should be ashamed. I, for one, pity you and your ignorance.
Zune Tang, go back into your toilet hole where you naturally belongs.
“The unlikely few people who buy I-Pads would have to learn a whole new operating system …” Zune Tang
Really? I don’t have to teach my kid how to operate the i-Pad and he got it right the first time. Even my two cats knows how to point and touch at the right places on the i-Pad and the iPad responds. i-Pad is not like a Windows tablet. Windows tablets are too complicated that even a rocket scientist could not figure how to use them.
11.6 MBA is the only netbook for me. But as I am an old guy I think the 13 inch is probably more practical actually.
My first impulse is to say that the 11.6 MBA is the only netbook for me But as I am an old guy I think the 13 inch is probably more practical actually. Not giving into impulse is probably why I AM an old guy.
@ vsp
You, like simon, must be new here..
Welcome!
ZT is one of our local aces of satire.
You’ll grow to love him too.
Why welcome people with zero sense of humor, satire or basic reading comprehension skills??
Delighted to have you back, Zune Tang. You always tell the “rest of the story.”
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@ “@twilightmoon”
You, as you so apply reflected in your comments, are in the wrong forum. Blind lead by the blind is on another website. I think it is : ibeliveallthebullshitthatthegovernmenttellsme.com but you may want to google it.
You may want to read some of the WikiLeaks documents. They did, after all, come from people who do see the truth…
As for the netbook topic. I have looked at them over and over again and I can’t imagine working on a thing like that at all. I have a MBP 13 (newest virgin) and it is perfect. Does the job.
I even bought a messenger bag that holds both my iPad and my MBA… fully equipped for the MobileMe…
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Cheers…
MB Air sell like hotcakes. Muff said.
I like how Zune Tang creatively parses the language in reporting “…Many netbooks run some variant of the venerable and widely regarded Microsoft Windows…”
Of course, the phrase “widely regarded” means nothing. In life, many things may be “highly regarded” but I’ve never heard the term “widely regarded” used as an accolade. And I do agree: Microsoft Windows is “widely regarded” as a POS software, even as Mac OS is “highly regarded” software.
I count three ZT snags in this one thread. Amazing that it never get’s old…
Pol Pot was “widely regarded.”
Come on! Many people absolutely don’t bother about tablets and are even, and yet, very far from considering to by any Apple products… For them the netbook is “the best of what exists”. And it will remain, until their M$ turned heads come upon a windose compatible “wonder tablet”…
Congratulations Zune Tang! (whatever the heck a Zune is) you are official troll of this convo!!! Apple laptops actually cost less than evenly matched pc’s when you look at overall costs. Cuz I dont need any Anti-virus software that needs monthly payments. If you’re going to say something, research it first.
@TwilightMoon.
Get YOUR facts straight. Wikipedia is an easy place to start:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_Mission_Accomplished_Speech
@Jax44: Well said! =)
@JD…
“We need to make the iPad independent of a Mac/PC.”
*We* won’t be making the iPad do anything.
Most of us in this forum are consumers / users of wonderful Apple products. So, unless you’re a programmer / hacker, you won’t be making the iPad do anything either, except using progs from the iTunes / Apple / iPad store.
Secondly, your “…independent of a Mac / PC.”, comment: really?? You actually had the nerve to say this in a Mac fan forum??
The iPad *runs* a version of Mac OS X. There is absolutely no way to ‘seperate’ the iPad from a Mac / PC.
The heart and soul of every Mac sold is its OS. Period.
The iPad & iPhone are no different. As someone has said before me, ‘It’s the software, stupid.’
The thing that Microsoft doesn’t understand (and the reason for their downfall) is that Apple is a software platform company that wraps their OS in fantastic hardware. Most people get distracted by Jon Ives designed hardware and overlook the OS. They think “It’s marketing.” ‘Marketing’ is what is used by fools to convince other fools that a product is desirable, no matter how worthless it may be (a la: Windows Vista).
Apple makes a ‘total package’. Most other (if not all) CE companies do not.
This is why all the iPhone wannabe’s are getting obliterated in ‘the market’: weak OS. All of the iPhone wannabes are trying to use some1 else’s software (MS / Google) for their OS and are failing miserably. End of story.
There is no way to seperate the iPad from the Mac / PC because the iPad *is* a Mac / PC.
If you don’t understand this, then good luck understanding anything else.
@January 24, 1984,
I hope that the netbook is killed off or will be soon enough. My boss wants netbooks in in every school in our district, saying glowing things about them, that they are this and that and on and on. The school district gave him an iPad and he hates it.
I pointed out to him: The netbooks are flimsy, low quality; the iPad is top notch hardware.
The iPad runs iOS 4x and the netbooks run Windows. Enough said about that.
Yurns out the netbooks aren’t working too good, like those crummy $400 Lenovo laptops the teachers use.
twilightmoon:
The past tense of “lead” is “led,” not “lead,” as in car batteries and other Chinese products, such as baby formula.
Netbook sales are down despite the fact that they are considerably cheaper than the iPad. How does anybody figure that this is the result of the economic downturn? Idiots!
No – it hasn’t.
I work on an iMac. The family on a mac mini and an iPad.
For Christmas we are adding a Netbook and a Nook and couldn’t care less they aren’t iPads.
There will always be a market for netbooks, they are much cheaper than iPad’s for one… A lot of people won’t want to invest on an iPad (which can’t do as much as on Windows). Looking at some prices of netbooks on http://www.cheapest-netbooks.co.uk, netbooks will stay.
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Or Al Gore’s global warming er global climate change or President Obama’s Hope and Change…
@Zune Tang
I first found your posts to be annoying, but now I see why people on this site say they miss you. We all need to laugh once in a while. Keep it comin…….. BUT I’ve provided a bit of info with a link to the site where I found it…………..
The Company also sold 4.19 million iPads during the quarter.
http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2010/10/18results.html
If the iPads sold were at the lowest possible price, that would come to nearly $2.1B in revenue with no other apple products (applecare, apps, accessories) or anything else bought along with the iPad.
My friend…………. I kinda wonder whether you’re an Apple product owner who just likes to stir things up a bit……entertain us