“Verizon customers will pay only monthly for data usage on the Galaxy Tab, starting at $20 per month for 1GB, Verizon spokeswoman Brenda Raney said Wednesday,” Hamblen reports. “The pricing is the same as for buying the Wi-Fi iPad bundled with the MiFi mobile hot spot from Verizon starting on Oct. 28: $20 for 1GB, $35 for 3GB, $50 for 5GB and $80 for 10GB. (The $80 plan was not originally included in the iPad bundle announcement but applies to both the iPad and the Galaxy Tab.)”
“Typically, Verizon and other carriers require a two-year service contract for a smartphone purchase, so Verizon’s approach represents an important shift in data pricing among carriers. But it is similar to an approach that AT&T started in the spring for monthly iPad 3G service priced at $14.99 for 250MB and $25 for 2GB,” Hamblen reports. “Some commenters on Computerworld.com complained that the $600 price tag for the Galaxy Tab was unreasonable compared to the iPad’s, which starts at $499 for the 16GB version.”
Hamblen reports, “One of the biggest differences is the touch-screen size, with the iPad’s at 9.7 in. and the Galaxy’s at 7 in.”
Full article here.
MacDailyNews Take: One naturally thinks that a 7-inch screen would offer 70% of the benefits of a 10-inch screen. Unfortunately, this is far from the truth. The screen measurements are diagonal, so that a 7-inch screen is only 45% as large as iPad’s 10-inch screen. You heard me right: Just 45% as large.
If you take an iPad an hold it upright in portrait view and draw an imaginary horizontal line halfway down the screen, the screens on these 7-inch tablets are a bit smaller than the bottom half of the ipad’s display. This size isn’t sufficient to create great tablet apps in our opinion. While one could increase the resolution of the display to make up for some of the difference, it is meaningless unless your tablet also includes sandpaper, so that the user can sand down their fingers to around one quarter of their present size.
Apple has done extensive user testing on tough interfaces over many years and we really understand this stuff. There are clear limits of how close you can physically place elements on a touchscreen before users cannot reliably tap, flick, or pinch them. This is one of the key reasons we think the 10-inch screen size is the minimum size required to create great tablet apps.
Every tablet user is also a smartphone user. No tablet can compete with the mobility of a smartphone; its ease of fitting into your pocket or purse, its unobtrusiveness when used in a crowd. Given that all tablet users will already have a smartphone in their pocket, giving up precious display area to fit a tablet in their pockets is clearly the wrong tradeoff.
The 7-inch tablets are tweeners. Too big to compete with a smartphone and too small to compete with an iPad.
Almost all of these new tablets use Android software, but even Google is telling the tablet manufacturers no tot use their current release, Froyo, for tablets and to wait for a special tablet release next year. What does it mean when your software supplier says not to use their software and what does it mean when you ignore them and use it anyway?
iPad now has over 35,000 apps on the App Store. This new crop of tablets will have near zero.
Our potential competitors are having a tough time coming close to iPad’s pricing, even with their far smaller, far less expensive screens. The iPad incorporates everything we’ve learned about building high value products from iPhone, iPods, and Macs. We create our own A4 chip, our own software, our own battery chemistry, our own enclosure, our own everything. And this results in an incredible product at a great price. The proof of this will be in the pricing of our competitors’ products which will likely offer less for more.
These are among the reasons we think the current crop of 7-inch tablets are going to be DOA. Dead On Arrival. Their manufacturers will learn the painful lesson that their tablets are too small and increase the size next year, thereby abandoning both customers and developers who jumped on the 7-inch bandwagon with an orphaned product.
Sounds like lots of fun ahead.– Apple CEO Steve Jobs, October 18, 2010
[Thanks to MacDailyNews Reader “KingMel” for the heads up.]
“Apple has done extensive user testing on tough interfaces…”
I think he said “touch” interfaces.
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“i would hate to see what their 10 inch screened Tab would go for”
It would go for about three hours and then the battery would be dead.
“i would hate to see what their 10 inch screened Tab would go for”
It would go for about three hours and then the battery would be dead.
@Bill
I agree a new unit of time until a product is found on the road dead. The Kin.
Because this is android and honestly the price isn’t THAT high I suspect this will be 4-5 Kins before passing. Killed by some othe iPad killer most likely
@Bill
I agree a new unit of time until a product is found on the road dead. The Kin.
Because this is android and honestly the price isn’t THAT high I suspect this will be 4-5 Kins before passing. Killed by some othe iPad killer most likely
Samsung should focus more on their refrigerators, washers/dryers, microwave ovens, oven ranges and dishwashers. Talk about a company that’s just spread way too thin doing too many things…
Samsung should focus more on their refrigerators, washers/dryers, microwave ovens, oven ranges and dishwashers. Talk about a company that’s just spread way too thin doing too many things…
Zounds! what’s this? An I-Lemmings echo-chamber. I must have taken a wrong turn…
Zounds! what’s this? An I-Lemmings echo-chamber. I must have taken a wrong turn…
what happened the ‘army’ of CHEAP androids (you know the ones ZDnet etc are talking about: $100 tablets with twin cameras, mulitiple USB, Amoled AND Free Fries as well!) that will kill the iPad? Dell streak and Samsung with smaller screens at 599! lol.
Obviously Apple haters have not been paying attention:
Steve jobs 2009 on iPhone but also hinting at Apple’s new pricing policy: “I think we have to be the best, and I think we have to not leave a price umbrella underneath us”
Tim Cook at Goldman Sachs “Why (iPad) so cheap? We didn’t want to leave pricing umbrella for competition. For those who haven’t focused on this, it has best browsing experience you could ever imagine.”
Acer president Lin in why competing with iPad is suicide, February 2010: “Apple is able to support the iPad through its iTunes ecosystem, while few other makers, including Acer, have comparable experience in operating an online store… Apple has built is business out of carving its own niche, which means that while Apple could see success with devices like the iPad, other players are unlikely to be able to replicate its result simply by copying”
what happened the ‘army’ of CHEAP androids (you know the ones ZDnet etc are talking about: $100 tablets with twin cameras, mulitiple USB, Amoled AND Free Fries as well!) that will kill the iPad? Dell streak and Samsung with smaller screens at 599! lol.
Obviously Apple haters have not been paying attention:
Steve jobs 2009 on iPhone but also hinting at Apple’s new pricing policy: “I think we have to be the best, and I think we have to not leave a price umbrella underneath us”
Tim Cook at Goldman Sachs “Why (iPad) so cheap? We didn’t want to leave pricing umbrella for competition. For those who haven’t focused on this, it has best browsing experience you could ever imagine.”
Acer president Lin in why competing with iPad is suicide, February 2010: “Apple is able to support the iPad through its iTunes ecosystem, while few other makers, including Acer, have comparable experience in operating an online store… Apple has built is business out of carving its own niche, which means that while Apple could see success with devices like the iPad, other players are unlikely to be able to replicate its result simply by copying”
This should be fun to watch.
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This should be fun to watch.
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MDN’s comment (which they’ve said more than once) about how the screen measurements are diagonal is irrelevant. If the diagonal is 70%, and the aspect ratio is the same, then the length and width are also 70%. They’re proportional.
The more important thing is that the measurements are linear, and don’t reflect the number of pixels. So if the linear dimensions (width, height, or diagonal) are 70%, then the pixel area is going to be 49% (because .7 squared is .49).
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MDN’s comment (which they’ve said more than once) about how the screen measurements are diagonal is irrelevant. If the diagonal is 70%, and the aspect ratio is the same, then the length and width are also 70%. They’re proportional.
The more important thing is that the measurements are linear, and don’t reflect the number of pixels. So if the linear dimensions (width, height, or diagonal) are 70%, then the pixel area is going to be 49% (because .7 squared is .49).
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This is ONE area that SJ has made a mistake. The whole world is not exactly like US consumers. Being a US citizen currently living in Japan and traveling around E and SE Asia, it is easy to observe differences. The iPad is a too large for many things and the iPhone size devices are too small. With the iPad making it big time in business, medical and other industry inroads, the current iPad size is NOT ideal for most. However, being the first and greatest on the block, there is a wrong assumption that one size fits all. The logic that SJ put forward is ideal with the assumptions that he used. But it does not take into account ALL criteria.
The current iPad is too large and too heavy to haul around from place to place personally for hours on end without some discomfort. A Retina display on a 7 inch iPad will cut the weight by at least a 1/3, fit into a medical white coat side pocket, or even a suit/work jacket side pocket. It will be easily accessible without having to hold in the hand the entire time or have to have a special shoulder bag.
My daughter who LOVES to read has handled the iPad numerous times, – has commented on the weight each time. She has been reading books for two years in a ‘touch’. A 7 inch iPad will not be the largest seller but it would fill a huge gap for far more people and industries than SJ is giving credit to. (Yep, ended in a prep.)
This is ONE area that SJ has made a mistake. The whole world is not exactly like US consumers. Being a US citizen currently living in Japan and traveling around E and SE Asia, it is easy to observe differences. The iPad is a too large for many things and the iPhone size devices are too small. With the iPad making it big time in business, medical and other industry inroads, the current iPad size is NOT ideal for most. However, being the first and greatest on the block, there is a wrong assumption that one size fits all. The logic that SJ put forward is ideal with the assumptions that he used. But it does not take into account ALL criteria.
The current iPad is too large and too heavy to haul around from place to place personally for hours on end without some discomfort. A Retina display on a 7 inch iPad will cut the weight by at least a 1/3, fit into a medical white coat side pocket, or even a suit/work jacket side pocket. It will be easily accessible without having to hold in the hand the entire time or have to have a special shoulder bag.
My daughter who LOVES to read has handled the iPad numerous times, – has commented on the weight each time. She has been reading books for two years in a ‘touch’. A 7 inch iPad will not be the largest seller but it would fill a huge gap for far more people and industries than SJ is giving credit to. (Yep, ended in a prep.)
I have downloaded all the software and even the upgrades, but it still does not see that my phone is connected.
Can anyone help please?
http://mojoblastreview.com/
I have downloaded all the software and even the upgrades, but it still does not see that my phone is connected.
Can anyone help please?
http://mojoblastreview.com/
@Pernicious Knid
Let’s break this down.
A 6″x4″ screen is 24 square inches in area.
A 8″x6″ screen is 48 square inches in area.
Geometry Lesson.
24/48 x 100 = 50%
Math Lesson
Any questions?
@Pernicious Knid
Let’s break this down.
A 6″x4″ screen is 24 square inches in area.
A 8″x6″ screen is 48 square inches in area.
Geometry Lesson.
24/48 x 100 = 50%
Math Lesson
Any questions?
@SAB – thanks for that, I was just getting my pencil sharpened
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I think a case could be made for a smaller iPad, and perhaps a larger one as well. As pointed out above, medical professionals, especially in-hospital might like something that fits in a coat pocket better, or perhaps a different solution (a sling?) is needed (for the current size). Over time, I am sure it will become lighter and thinner (iPod touch is a good example), though I am certain the majority of the weight is from the nice big healthy battery that provides such great life, instant on response, and great stand by time.
@SAB – thanks for that, I was just getting my pencil sharpened
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I think a case could be made for a smaller iPad, and perhaps a larger one as well. As pointed out above, medical professionals, especially in-hospital might like something that fits in a coat pocket better, or perhaps a different solution (a sling?) is needed (for the current size). Over time, I am sure it will become lighter and thinner (iPod touch is a good example), though I am certain the majority of the weight is from the nice big healthy battery that provides such great life, instant on response, and great stand by time.
By the way – MDN’s comment is a reproduction of a transcript of a Steve Job’s keynote – I am fairly sure he had the numbers right, and that he hashed out many of them long before the words were spoken. Read the entire thing and see the note at the bottom.
By the way – MDN’s comment is a reproduction of a transcript of a Steve Job’s keynote – I am fairly sure he had the numbers right, and that he hashed out many of them long before the words were spoken. Read the entire thing and see the note at the bottom.