“Just after Steve Ballmer finished up on stage, I cornered some of the development team members and got a look at the copy and paste features that Microsoft said will come early next year to Windows Phone 7,” Ina Fried reports for CNET.
“Copy and paste will work by letting users click on a particular word and then expand or contract their text selection from there. A separate paste icon will appear allowing users to paste text, though the look is not yet final,” Fried reports. “It seemed to work well, if not quite as elegantly as what Apple has done on the iPhone.”
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One word to describe Windows Phone 7: FAIL.
One word to describe Windows Phone 7: FAIL.
Sad, really…very sad. MS has been relegated as a has been. And rightfully so. Too bad these so called journalists don’t see it.
Sad, really…very sad. MS has been relegated as a has been. And rightfully so. Too bad these so called journalists don’t see it.
The strategic move by Google into the low cost derivative device manufacturer space was brilliantly disruptive. MSFT markets to manufacturers, not the public, and the mobile device marketplace is in a fabulous state thanks to the zero cost android as THE competitor to winmo7.
The strategic move by Google into the low cost derivative device manufacturer space was brilliantly disruptive. MSFT markets to manufacturers, not the public, and the mobile device marketplace is in a fabulous state thanks to the zero cost android as THE competitor to winmo7.
Garbage, I wish you didn’t even post anything about garbage. That’s all it is…. Just like there computers….
Garbage, I wish you didn’t even post anything about garbage. That’s all it is…. Just like there computers….
@ silverwarloc
“It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends on his not understanding it.” — Upton Sinclair
@ silverwarloc
“It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends on his not understanding it.” — Upton Sinclair
“It seemed to work well, if not quite as elegantly as what Apple has done on the iPhone.”
Imagine that. I thought I’d never see the work “elegantly” used in a report about Microsoft.
Close but no cigar … once again.
“It seemed to work well, if not quite as elegantly as what Apple has done on the iPhone.”
Imagine that. I thought I’d never see the work “elegantly” used in a report about Microsoft.
Close but no cigar … once again.
I don’t really care about cut/copy/paste. As long as I can squirt text to another Windows Phone 7 user I’m good.
I don’t really care about cut/copy/paste. As long as I can squirt text to another Windows Phone 7 user I’m good.
Forget whether is elegant; I doubt MS will get it right.
Forget whether is elegant; I doubt MS will get it right.
It should be called Windows Phone 2007
It should be called Windows Phone 2007
surely microsoft should have cornered the market in copy paste by now? I thought that was their business model.
surely microsoft should have cornered the market in copy paste by now? I thought that was their business model.
and a good after-zune to you too, sir!
and a good after-zune to you too, sir!
I wouldn’t call Ina Fried elegant either. He/she (whatever) should think before throwing stones at MS.
I wouldn’t call Ina Fried elegant either. He/she (whatever) should think before throwing stones at MS.
Funny, because copy and paste is all they’ve ever done with any success.
Funny, because copy and paste is all they’ve ever done with any success.
You’d think that with all the experience Microsoft has in copying, copy and paste would have been the first feature they worked on.
You’d think that with all the experience Microsoft has in copying, copy and paste would have been the first feature they worked on.
I have seen several reviews already, but none seem to mention trying to duplicated the “death grip” problem. Seemed important when it was Apple, but nobody even mentions it with Windows. Seems suspicious to me.
I have seen several reviews already, but none seem to mention trying to duplicated the “death grip” problem. Seemed important when it was Apple, but nobody even mentions it with Windows. Seems suspicious to me.
… Don’t bother with Windows phony 2007… you already know how they are… Buggy and Not EZ!
Buy an iPhone… millions do
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… Don’t bother with Windows phony 2007… you already know how they are… Buggy and Not EZ!
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Reading the CNET comments. It’s interesting that those who are defending the lack of features of Windows 7 act like MS is new to the game. After recalling tech torturous moments with my Windows 5 phone, I will note that MS has been in the mobile space for a long time.
Reading the CNET comments. It’s interesting that those who are defending the lack of features of Windows 7 act like MS is new to the game. After recalling tech torturous moments with my Windows 5 phone, I will note that MS has been in the mobile space for a long time.
He/she/its description sounds almost identical to Apple’s implementation.
Not surprising.
He/she/its description sounds almost identical to Apple’s implementation.
Not surprising.
Symantec and McAfees of the world eagerly awaits with dollar signs in their eyes.
Symantec and McAfees of the world eagerly awaits with dollar signs in their eyes.
Funny. You’d figure Copy/Paste is the ONE thing they’ve mastered over the years.
Funny. You’d figure Copy/Paste is the ONE thing they’ve mastered over the years.
Funny how all those MS apologists who slammed Apple for not having copy/paste as a feature in the first iteration of the iPhone now accept MS’s copying of that same behavior with equanimity and no complaints…
Funny how all those MS apologists who slammed Apple for not having copy/paste as a feature in the first iteration of the iPhone now accept MS’s copying of that same behavior with equanimity and no complaints…
How much of M$’s half billion advertising efforts goes to pay the shills?
How much of M$’s half billion advertising efforts goes to pay the shills?
The One Minute Wonder of Daftphones!
Windows Phone 7: “Designed to get you IN and OUT and back to life.”
The Cure:
Male Health Center
The One Minute Wonder of Daftphones!
Windows Phone 7: “Designed to get you IN and OUT and back to life.”
The Cure:
Male Health Center
Now now sonny boy. You don’t want to squirt too soon there, do ya!
Now now sonny boy. You don’t want to squirt too soon there, do ya!
I wonder how many here have actually seen the windows phone 7 ui. It is actually very original. Very elegant. To be honest, it looks really good. Remember that Microsoft is very friendly to developers. They have excellent tools and a lit of developers who know how to write for the .net platform. Developers generally don’t like walled gardens. Thy re generally more technical and not tour average user. The reason the app store draws developers to write for it ( ugh… Objective-c) is the app store is really good. And it I’d easy for developers ti make money. If Microsoft cab replicate this success they will have a Lot of apps very quickly.
I’m not saying it will be successful but this attitude of zealots is really what pushes people away from apple.
As for me… I love the apple ecosystem. However I have always hated that I can’t load my own apps onto the device without going through the app store.
I wonder how many here have actually seen the windows phone 7 ui. It is actually very original. Very elegant. To be honest, it looks really good. Remember that Microsoft is very friendly to developers. They have excellent tools and a lit of developers who know how to write for the .net platform. Developers generally don’t like walled gardens. Thy re generally more technical and not tour average user. The reason the app store draws developers to write for it ( ugh… Objective-c) is the app store is really good. And it I’d easy for developers ti make money. If Microsoft cab replicate this success they will have a Lot of apps very quickly.
I’m not saying it will be successful but this attitude of zealots is really what pushes people away from apple.
As for me… I love the apple ecosystem. However I have always hated that I can’t load my own apps onto the device without going through the app store.
@ApplePi, the most important thing for developers is addressable audience. iPhone has that, and it’s hard enough to justify porting to Android and Blackberry. Windows Phone 7 will have to get in line. And its a long line at that.
@ApplePi, the most important thing for developers is addressable audience. iPhone has that, and it’s hard enough to justify porting to Android and Blackberry. Windows Phone 7 will have to get in line. And its a long line at that.
When is this guy gonna Give Up ???
When is this guy gonna Give Up ???
@ applepi
NB: hackers don’t like walled in gardens also, which is why they will love the new winmo7 OS.
I’m quite allright with having iTunes as the gatekeeper to ensuring that all apps running on my phone are secure and have no back doors open. ( except maybe Zynga Apps!)
@ applepi
NB: hackers don’t like walled in gardens also, which is why they will love the new winmo7 OS.
I’m quite allright with having iTunes as the gatekeeper to ensuring that all apps running on my phone are secure and have no back doors open. ( except maybe Zynga Apps!)
As nauseating as Objective-C and Cocoa are, they’re nothing compared to dealing with Microsoft’s brutal APIs and the knowledge that no matter how tight your code is, you’re building your program on top of a house of cards in a tornado during an earthquake.
The reason the App Stores draws developers to write for it is because they get the majority of the profits, there’s a huge established userbase, iOS is solid, and developing for it is less horrible than developing for the alternatives.
But you’re supposing developers might abandon iOS and flock to WinMo ’07… A platform with no user base, a shittier development environment, vague pricing schemes, likely multiple app stores, and the gaurantee that it’ll be fractured between many, many, many different models of smartphones?
It’s DOA. With virtually nothing to offer developers, it’ll have few apps. With few apps, it’ll have virtually no users. What you’re mistaking for an “attitude of zealots” is common sense. Taking cheap shots at it is just because it’s an easy target, especially after a certain criminally delusional funeral procession proclaimed it’s going to BURY THE COMPETITION.
It’s like Pauly Shore saying he’s totally gonna bury all the other comedians. How can you NOT make fun?
Also, stop whining and jailbreak if you hate “having” to go through the App Store.
As nauseating as Objective-C and Cocoa are, they’re nothing compared to dealing with Microsoft’s brutal APIs and the knowledge that no matter how tight your code is, you’re building your program on top of a house of cards in a tornado during an earthquake.
The reason the App Stores draws developers to write for it is because they get the majority of the profits, there’s a huge established userbase, iOS is solid, and developing for it is less horrible than developing for the alternatives.
But you’re supposing developers might abandon iOS and flock to WinMo ’07… A platform with no user base, a shittier development environment, vague pricing schemes, likely multiple app stores, and the gaurantee that it’ll be fractured between many, many, many different models of smartphones?
It’s DOA. With virtually nothing to offer developers, it’ll have few apps. With few apps, it’ll have virtually no users. What you’re mistaking for an “attitude of zealots” is common sense. Taking cheap shots at it is just because it’s an easy target, especially after a certain criminally delusional funeral procession proclaimed it’s going to BURY THE COMPETITION.
It’s like Pauly Shore saying he’s totally gonna bury all the other comedians. How can you NOT make fun?
Also, stop whining and jailbreak if you hate “having” to go through the App Store.
Elegant and Microsoft do not belong in the same paragraph, never mind the same sentence!
Elegant and Microsoft do not belong in the same paragraph, never mind the same sentence!
Do you really think that “Microsoft to add copy-paste to Windows Phone ‘07 early next year” is something to brag about???? Pretty funny stuff!!!
Do you really think that “Microsoft to add copy-paste to Windows Phone ‘07 early next year” is something to brag about???? Pretty funny stuff!!!
Anonymous “ApplePi” sez: “I wonder how many here have actually seen the windows phone 7 ui.”
I have.
“It is actually very original.”
No. It looks like your first grade cut out construction paper project about understanding ‘the square’.
“Very elegant.”
No. Not unless you find monotony to be elegant.
“To be honest, it looks really good.”
I’m glad you’re honest, but No. It’s not really anything but boring. It makes very little use of COLOR or SHAPE or TEXTURE or SIZE or SHADING or FONTS or 3-D or just about anything beyond very basic 2-D GUI colored squares with text on them. So much for GUI innovations of the 1990s, let alone the 21st century.
IOW: It looks minimalist to the point of boring and unimaginative. I have no doubt it was slapped together in a furious hurry just to get something, <I>anything,</b> out on the market really really really fast. It’s desperation coding and it shows. And it’s embarrassing.
Conclusion: You’re not going to want to spend a lot of time on a Windows Phone 7 iPhone ripoff because it’s so incredibly DULL. zzzzzzzz
~ ~ ~
“Honey? Honey?! Wake up!! You’ve GOT to stop using that Windows iPhone ripoff! If you keep letting it put you to sleep, you’ll be late for work. Let the dog play with it while you get dressed.”
Anonymous “ApplePi” sez: “I wonder how many here have actually seen the windows phone 7 ui.”
I have.
“It is actually very original.”
No. It looks like your first grade cut out construction paper project about understanding ‘the square’.
“Very elegant.”
No. Not unless you find monotony to be elegant.
“To be honest, it looks really good.”
I’m glad you’re honest, but No. It’s not really anything but boring. It makes very little use of COLOR or SHAPE or TEXTURE or SIZE or SHADING or FONTS or 3-D or just about anything beyond very basic 2-D GUI colored squares with text on them. So much for GUI innovations of the 1990s, let alone the 21st century.
IOW: It looks minimalist to the point of boring and unimaginative. I have no doubt it was slapped together in a furious hurry just to get something, <I>anything,</b> out on the market really really really fast. It’s desperation coding and it shows. And it’s embarrassing.
Conclusion: You’re not going to want to spend a lot of time on a Windows Phone 7 iPhone ripoff because it’s so incredibly DULL. zzzzzzzz
~ ~ ~
“Honey? Honey?! Wake up!! You’ve GOT to stop using that Windows iPhone ripoff! If you keep letting it put you to sleep, you’ll be late for work. Let the dog play with it while you get dressed.”
“As for me… I love the apple ecosystem. However I have always hated that I can’t load my own apps onto the device without going through the app store.”
Do you write your own Apps? The ones you have on your PC. The PC you posted with on this page.
You love the apple ecosystem but you don’t want to use it. Your comments don’t make any sense unless you write your own Apps on a Mac that you don’t own or you want to install pirated apps.
Uses a PC, wants to load pirated Apps, handle is ApplePi, I smell a Troll.
“As for me… I love the apple ecosystem. However I have always hated that I can’t load my own apps onto the device without going through the app store.”
Do you write your own Apps? The ones you have on your PC. The PC you posted with on this page.
You love the apple ecosystem but you don’t want to use it. Your comments don’t make any sense unless you write your own Apps on a Mac that you don’t own or you want to install pirated apps.
Uses a PC, wants to load pirated Apps, handle is ApplePi, I smell a Troll.
Sir, you certainly don’t do yourself credit making false claims and putting down an anonymous person on the internet.
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Back to the subject at hand. I actually really do think that Win Mobile 7 is an interesting fresh approach. Sure, it may not have look and feel that iOS has… or the other things the designers care about, but your average user doesn’t sweat it over whether the icons on his display are rastered or vectors either. They just want it to work and do what it does well. And if it was polished like Apple’s UI, then there would be screams of “copycat copycat”
WinMo7 may not have the attention to detail that it has… but seriously, it can’t be called a copycat. At least the few demos I’ve seen don’t appear to copy the iPhone’s IU.
How anyone can say it’s an iPhone ripoff (without qualifying it) is beyond me. The UI seems nothing like the Apple UI. Android on the other hand…
In the end, it really doesn’t matter what we think here at MDN, it matters what the public thinks and what will happen in the marketplace. It will be interesting to see if it takes off. I wouldn’t be so blind to say that it has no chance.
Sir, you certainly don’t do yourself credit making false claims and putting down an anonymous person on the internet.
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Back to the subject at hand. I actually really do think that Win Mobile 7 is an interesting fresh approach. Sure, it may not have look and feel that iOS has… or the other things the designers care about, but your average user doesn’t sweat it over whether the icons on his display are rastered or vectors either. They just want it to work and do what it does well. And if it was polished like Apple’s UI, then there would be screams of “copycat copycat”
WinMo7 may not have the attention to detail that it has… but seriously, it can’t be called a copycat. At least the few demos I’ve seen don’t appear to copy the iPhone’s IU.
How anyone can say it’s an iPhone ripoff (without qualifying it) is beyond me. The UI seems nothing like the Apple UI. Android on the other hand…
In the end, it really doesn’t matter what we think here at MDN, it matters what the public thinks and what will happen in the marketplace. It will be interesting to see if it takes off. I wouldn’t be so blind to say that it has no chance.
Copy and paste next year. Wow, how far will ios have evolved by then? Will MIcrosoft ever do anything that isn’t a cheap copy of someone else’s hard work and innovation? I doubt it. The only reason we’re talking about them at all is because they can market their second rate products with a hard sell.
Copy and paste next year. Wow, how far will ios have evolved by then? Will MIcrosoft ever do anything that isn’t a cheap copy of someone else’s hard work and innovation? I doubt it. The only reason we’re talking about them at all is because they can market their second rate products with a hard sell.
And besides, any smartphone that can’t get Ow My Balls doesn’t deserve the time of day.
And besides, any smartphone that can’t get Ow My Balls doesn’t deserve the time of day.
Hey ApplePi
Did you say you can’t load your own apps?
Check out http://www.runrev.com
You can build your on apps and install them on your iOS device. A great tool for custom enterprise development.
And it’s now blessed by Apple.
Hey ApplePi
Did you say you can’t load your own apps?
Check out http://www.runrev.com
You can build your on apps and install them on your iOS device. A great tool for custom enterprise development.
And it’s now blessed by Apple.
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