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“Amongst those we know who have had’em for a day or two and who pay an nearly obsessive amount of detail to stuff like this, however, it’s pretty much unanimous: these early units seem to be having issues,” Kumparak reports. “The signal on one of the two units we received is all over the board, dipping from full signal down to nearly none whilst sitting in the same spot (and no, we’re not holding it wrong).”
Kumparak reports, “Could it just be the early units? Perhaps. Can it be fixed with a software patch? Hopefully! We’ll keep digging and let you know what we find out…”
Full article here.
Chris Ziegler reports for Engadget, “Signal strength was a major issue for all four Engadget editors who’ve been able to spend time with four different Droid 2s in different parts of the country this week. Symptoms include a wildly fluctuating meter while the phone’s sitting still, weak or no reception in places where you’re usually fine on Verizon, and a complete lack of data service (which was actually how we noticed the problem the first time).”
“To see our Droid 2’s data indicator flip-flop from EV-DO to 1xRTT and then disappear entirely was really alarming. We’re hoping this is something Motorola can fix with a software update alone, because it was nearly a showstopper for us,” Ziegler reports.
Full article here.
MacDailyNews Take: Smirk.
We await the Chuck Schumer’s open letter to Motorola’s half-CEOs Greg Brown and Sanjay Jha with bated breath.
[Thanks to MacDailyNews Reader “Robert S.” for the heads up.]
let’s see if MOTO winds up in the media crosshairs like AAPL did; I’m bettin that GooMOTO will get a bye
Stop the presses! Run this story on all the news stations and network news shows! Blog about it! Have late-night comedy sketches about it! Even have Rush Limbaugh chime in about it!
Wait, it’s not an iPhone, so it’s not important. People put up with shit because they expect shit of the Android platform.
Goes to show how high the bar really is with the effort coming out of Cupertino.
I’m starting a class action lawsuit because motorola said ‘our phones work better than an iphone’..
I don’t have a Droid 2, but because it’s not better, I’m loosing sleep and hair over this!
I want justice people!
Will we see Motorola’s CEO on this one?
Could it be a Verizon problem?
Has any one looked into Verizon?
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I use Verizon 3G for mobile data and an iPhone 3GS and can assure you that both need to update and upgrade their networks- including towers. iPhone users know AT&T wasn’t ready for Prime Time nationally when launched, but things seem to slowly be improving. Verizon was much better, but does not seem to have made much change in the last year or so.
I use Verizon 3G for mobile data and an iPhone 3GS and can assure you that both need to update and upgrade their networks- including towers. iPhone users know AT&T wasn’t ready for Prime Time nationally when launched, but things seem to slowly be improving. Verizon was much better, but does not seem to have made much change in the last year or so.
I use Verizon 3G for mobile data and an iPhone 3GS and can assure you that both need to update and upgrade their networks- including towers. iPhone users know AT&T wasn’t ready for Prime Time nationally when launched, but things seem to slowly be improving. Verizon was much better, but does not seem to have made much change in the last year or so.
I use Verizon 3G for mobile data and an iPhone 3GS and can assure you that both need to update and upgrade their networks- including towers. iPhone users know AT&T wasn’t ready for Prime Time nationally when launched, but things seem to slowly be improving. Verizon was much better, but does not seem to have made much change in the last year or so.
I use Verizon 3G for mobile data and an iPhone 3GS and can assure you that both need to update and upgrade their networks- including towers. iPhone users know AT&T wasn’t ready for Prime Time nationally when launched, but things seem to slowly be improving. Verizon was much better, but does not seem to have made much change in the last year or so.
I use Verizon 3G for mobile data and an iPhone 3GS and can assure you that both need to update and upgrade their networks- including towers. iPhone users know AT&T wasn’t ready for Prime Time nationally when launched, but things seem to slowly be improving. Verizon was much better, but does not seem to have made much change in the last year or so.
I use Verizon 3G for mobile data and an iPhone 3GS and can assure you that both need to update and upgrade their networks- including towers. iPhone users know AT&T wasn’t ready for Prime Time nationally when launched, but things seem to slowly be improving. Verizon was much better, but does not seem to have made much change in the last year or so.
Where’s Consumer Reports?
Seriously they better give out free cases, or let owners return them for a full refund. Droid 2 is defective. A recall should be called. Don’t they have a fix yet?
Signalgate is on call out the media, the national guard.
Heck where is gis and Cnet on this? Only Apple gets flack from every hack. Wait and see.
@auren:
Consumer Reports has been busy, for about the fifth year in a row, giving higher marks than anyone else to the new Apple desktops, laptops, and overall service.
Isn’t it “strange” (not) that this year, there is no mention of that here? Or is it too soon for CR to be wonderful and fantastic again, as they were after the past years reviews?
Finally something to take the attention away from apple! Haha motorola u guys are morons! iPhone rules Droid 2 drools sorry had to go old school on your asses!
@ auren
Agreed. Where is your report, Consumer Reports. Oh and please do post it on your “free” page like you did for Apple FUD piece.
What was that about “no jacket required”?
*Looking at Motorola’s “No Jacket Required” anti-iPhone ad*
Still laughing.
Heheh,… let me add one helluva smarmy smirk to equation..
Droid does!… too hehehe
“Stop holding it the wrong way” lol
You have to hold it inside a trash can.
Will we get to see any of Motorola’s $150,000,000.00 antenna testing labs? Or are they doing their tests in one of those cheep Consumer Report converted garage labs?
Idiots. Was the Droid 2 launch/announcement anywhere near as hyped as the iPhone 4? Obviously any of its pitfalls aren’t going to be talked about as much either. I can’t believe how clueless and ignorant 90% of this board is about how things work. It’s common sense, people….
They couldn’t make or receive phone calls and couldn’t get data and this was “nearly a show stopper”? Wow, talk about a double standard.
Now, this is what I call schadenfreud!!!!!
How will Leo LaPorte spin this one?
“Schaden, meet Freude. Freude, Schaden.”
Has anyone told Consumer Reports about this?
Motorola press conference announcement in 5… 4… 3… 2…
Warm up the slide-show projector…
Get those “Press” invitations in the mail…
@Bongo
Apple did the same amount of advertisement Motorola did. If the press overhyped it, well, they do it on purpose so they can cash on “antennagate”.
Even if it were not the case, you would be still wrong, Troll. Moto, HTC, Nokia and RIM took free shots at Apple, even though the Nexus One had worse issues, Nokia and RIM write warnings on their manuals to avoid “holding it wrong” and, at last, Motorola was found guilty of hypocrisy as well.
MW: “suddenly”. Suddenly those Motorola ads got way funnier.
@Bongo,
Troll. Avoid.
You can just BET that Steve Jobs and his legions of zombie fanbois are responsible for this!
Yes, indeed, let’s see how the press interprets this. My money is on it being treated as a non-issue.
Schadenfreude, indeed!
Perhaps it’s got a cold? Moborola groig
So… now it’s a problem?
It wasn’t a problem with iPhone4 – but now it is?
Pathetic – even for Mac Lemmings.
Can someone please get to Chuck Schumer and ask where his open letter to the Motorola CEO is.
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot!!!!
HAHAHAHA.. now I will go troll the Android boards!
loosing or losing, you be the judge.
@Bongo
Common sense has very little to do with the bulk of the discussion (mostly sound bites and name calling) that occurs in this forum.
PcGuy:
What on Earth are you talking about ???
Not a single person here was screaming about this being a problem (mind you, hardly anyone here has a Droid to begin with). All they were saying was how the shoe is now on the other foot, how what goes around, comes around, how a few weeks ago, Motorola was taking out full-page newspaper ads saying that you can hold their phones any way you want and they hold on to the full signal with clear connections, only to have apparently same (if not worse) problems with their devices.
Essentially, everyone seems to be relishing in Shadenfreude, and they have no reason to hold back.
Deus ex:
Wouldn’t your joke have worked even better if you had reversed it:
“Freude, meet Shaden. Shaden, Freude.”
…?
Bongo
You do know you proved you are in that “idiot” group, don’t you?
@ Tom:
Excellent point!! Where’s Chuck Schumer’s open letter???
@Predrag
You could be right, but I try to shoot from the hip. Here’s why.
clearly, These aren’t the Droids you’re looking for!
How am I a troll, people? Because I understand how media/advertising/hype works, both for good and bad? And how exactly did I prove I’m an idiot, HughB? Because you said so.
All I’m saying is you need to realize Apple is far and away the media’s favorite tech company to talk about. If a new product is released, you’re going to hear about it and all its amazing features. If there’s a problem, you’re also going to hear about it (and it was a problem, overblown or not). Not everyone is out to get Apple.
On this board, troll=anyone with common sense with the ability to express individual thoughts and opinions, without being clouded by Apple bias.
@bongo
You said: media/advertising/hype works, both for good and bad?
Mostly bad dude, mostly bad.
Obviously, every mobile phone with an antenna somewhere in the case is going to have attenuation if you intentionally hold it in a way that causes the radio waves to be absorbed by the tissue in your hand and fingers. “Antennagate” is turning into an advantage for Apple, because while Apple continues to sell every iPhone 4 it makes (based on the merits of the product), every new competing product will now be scrutinized for “reception issues.” And every one of them with have such issues, unless the design goes “old school” and uses an antenna that extends out of the case (beyond the hand and fingers).
However, this case seems different. With the iPhone 4, most REAL customers were not having performance issues or complaining about reception problems in actual use. Most of the “noise” was coming from the media, marketing for competing products (and their fanboys), lawyers, and one politician, all of whom had their own motivations to be Apple detractors. Most reviewers noted that it did not drop calls, even if they saw a drop in “bars” on the screen. Where the signal was strong, users could not even reproduce the problem no matter how ridiculously they held the iPhone 4.
The reports for Droid 2 describe actual performance issues including problems were the signal should be strong. The AppleInsider article even says, “With Droid 2, users who are experiencing the problem report that it happens even while sitting idle and ‘without holding it wrong.'”
And all this additional scrutiny now, because the Apple detractors spent so much effort trying (and failing) to derail iPhone 4. I’m loving it…
Do you loose a signal while standing perfectly still? Droid does.
someone else has copied the iPhone 4 then
I see you fucks still doing the circle jerk.
I think Moto, Apple, and whoever is next, may need to slow down a tad, stop paying so much attention to competitors release date, and extend the testing time prior to release. I’m aware of the business side and the board members only want to hear about release dates and margins with capital gains…. But gheez…..
The cost and pressure with a bad press release has got to be counter productive.
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I lost signal will typing this lost- I refuse to put a zagg, or case on such a nice iPhone 4. It’s the best phone period, with one MAJOR flaw. (I do realize the statement I just made) I enjoy showing the superior screen, agility and swiftness of the menus, how responsive the touch screen is, sound, apps. And the sleekness. Then I show them how when I type my right hand ring finger is right in the spot that causes utter misery. Steve… We know you fired that guy, but ya still won’t admit that “shit happens” and own up!!
Bongo: I second that!!!!!
@ silverhawk
THANX finally someone else is tired of the many geeks and otherwise intelligent folks who don’t know how to spell ‘lose’ versus ‘loose’.
If you cannot spell ‘lose’ you are a ‘looser’!!
LOL… What a fucking shit phone!!!
I hope the press goes on about this for a month or two just like they did with Apple.
This is antennagate extra vaganza! You don’t even need to hold the phone!!!
Motorola must RECALL this highly defective phone since it has a MAJOR design flaw!!!
@ Crashpad
Really is that all you have to say? What would your mommy think if she heard you saying such things? Or would mommy encourage you to participate in the circle jerk? You obviously had it on your mind if you came to this forum of all places to display such homosexuality. Just admit to everyone that you enjoy dicks. Oh and thank you so much for your useful insight on the subject of this forum. I am especially impressed that you wrote the whole thing with one hand typing and the other fingering yourself. If you thought this was a “match making” site may I suggest to you “PcGuy” just a few comments above yours. Judging by comments alone I believe you guys have alot in common. You’re both ignorant fucks.
Hate to be Mr Agreement today…. But the comments were waaaay out there. You had to have something on your mind. Let’s keep it on topic. Who’s monitoring this thing anyway?
Moto needs to recall the phone. Apple needs to address any phone because it’s not all of them. And it will make the big boys accountable for the hardware they push.