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@ JBL
> For one, the primary relationship an Android user has is with their cellular phone company – not Google.
You just reinforced my point in a way that I had not considered. The “primary relationship” an iPhone customer has is with Apple. Apple feels directly responsible for the customers experience, and is motivated to make it as exceptional as possible, because doing so helps sell more Apple hardware, and that provides Apple with direct profit. As I said, the motivations of iPhone users align more directly with the motivations of Apple.
By your example, Google is one level removed from the user because the wireless carrier is the “middle man.” Or Google is one level removed from the user because the hardware maker is the “middle man.” Or Google is one level removed from the user because the users do not directly contribute to Google’s profit (they are not the actual “customers”).
So you can look at it any way you want to look at it. To be indirectly “used” by Google or to be a valued Apple customer? Let’s see… I still choose Apple.
cwFrederick,
I actually enjoy your posts and friendly demeanor. Thank you for extending a welcoming hand, but I’m not likely to jump ship anytime soon.
By the time Christmas rolls around we’ll more than likely have an Android based phone with a 2Ghz processor and an onboard Nvidia processor.
I realize a company like Apple will always have a loyal customer base, but eventually a variety of choices, adaptability and innovations for the end user will win out, and Android is the best positioned to deliver.
I said it before. History is repeating itself and what makes Jobs think it will end differently this time is beyond me.
Ken1:
So you buy your iPhone at an At&T;store, and pay your bill to AT&T;, and you make your service complaints to AT&T;and somehow AT&T;is not front and center in your relationship to your iPhone?
This is fascinating, please esplain.
Ken1w
And I still don’t understand this charge of Google “using me” as a customer. There is a relationship there. Google provides a free open source operating system, I choose to buy a phone that uses it. The OS provides all the latest features (beyond what the phone company provides) and is updated with new features and enhancements more than once a year. In exchange, Google is allowed to collect anonymous user data for the purposes of selling advertising. Sounds like market capitalism to me! And amazingly I don’t feel used.
More like empowered, mostly because I am not under the thumb of the all powerful watcher, Steve Jobber.
@ jbl
sorry. Not a cheerleader. Just think YOU personally are sad. Don’t care what platform you are on.
Cheers.
forget the troll. here is what one true-blue Android fan has to say about the Evo:
http://techcrunch.com/2010/06/09/dont-buy-the-android-evo-it-is-a-seriously-flawed-device/
4G lipstick on a battery pig.
Was just at the AT&T;Store in Richland Wa. In the short time I was there, two different people came in trying to get the new iPhone. All I can say is Pre-Order on the 15th early if you want one by the 24th!
@ JBL
Apple took control of the user experience as much as possible. The phone is set up through iTunes. It is synced through iTunes. It is maintained through iTunes with updates that Apple issues, when Apple wants to issue them (not if and when the carrier wants to issue them). The only thing the user does through ATT is use their network (and complain about it), and possibly buy the phone at an ATT store (most iPhones are sold through Apple directly or through another reseller). In other words, Apple has successfully minimized the carrier’s role in the user experience.
If you actually believe ATT is “front and center in your relationship to your iPhone,” then you have just lost all credibility.
> And I still don’t understand this charge of Google “using me” as a customer.
I’m not saying Google is “evil.” I’m saying it is more likely that Apple will continue to provide the better user experience because what’s good for the user is good for Apple in a very direct way. There are no “exchange” of you provide me this software that I agree to use and you get to make a profit from advertising to me and collecting my user data. The Apple deal (whether for iPods, Macs, or iPhones) is simply, I pay for your iPhone and its software and you profit from me paying for your iPhone and its software. Everything else Apple does related to iPhones, such as run the iTunes/App Store and even iAds, are value-added services for its iPhone customers. And for Apple, improving user experience directly translates to higher profits. And THAT “sounds like market capitalism to me!” Google is a great example of capitalism too, but who pays Google? Who is Google primarily motivated to make happy?
> And amazingly I don’t feel used.
That’s why Google is successful…
> I am not under the thumb of the all powerful watcher, Steve Jobber.
As long as I believe Apple’s motivations as a for-profit enterprise are aligned with my motivations as an Apple customer, I will trust Apple to have my best interests in mind. I am far away from feeling that way about Google.
JBL
well it looks like you have some vested interest in android. to each his own i suppose. enjoy that 2Ghz (if your contract is up again by then)
the difference now is that apple has control, first mover advantage in the mobile space, it has seamlessly vertically integrated all of its best in class, and the OS is more significant and much more polished then anything else out there.
you can always get an ipod touch or an ipad, you know, for experimental purposes
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JBL – Mum’s calling it’s time to get out of the basement and get some dinner.
OK, you win. I’m a fucking idiot. You’re right, I’m wrong. I’m just a Fandroid with my head up my ass. I’m so sorry.
Just a few from a modernized list of fallacious reasoning:
Argument By Generalization
Argument By Gibberish (Bafflement)
Argument By Half Truth (Suppressed Evidence)
Argument By Laziness (Argument By Uninformed Opinion)
Argument By Pigheadedness (Doggedness)
As used appropriately by JBL
This is a fine example of what would happen if you keep feeding the troll…
What a waste of a thread.
JBL has joined the cult of “hate-Apple” fanbois, may even be president.
I jumped the iPhone for an evo…not because the phone is better, but sprint is much much better IMO for a list of reasons (living in 4G coverage being a big one).
@JBL
Why bail out so weakly? Be Aggressive-passive, not Passive-aggressive:
I’m sorry. I hadn’t thought about all the points you bring up. I’m so ashamed; I will return my smartphone to my spouse, saying it was a poor birthday present. And give back the wedding ring for good measure.