“Two digs at its rival was probably appropriate,” Swisher writes. “Three, welllll, okay, if you insist.”
Swisher writes, “Unfortunately, the continued verbal jousts at Apple by many Google execs–including CEO Eric Schmidt–onstage at the San Francisco developers conference got tired pretty quickly and soon felt petty and juvenile, and ultimately made Google look needlessly defensive.”
MacDailyNews Take: Needlessly? We beg to differ. Consider two words and Google’s future doesn’t look so bright: “Verizon iPhone.” Without the iPhone being tied to AT&T in the U.S., Android faces the same fate as it does in the rest of the world: Bloodbath. If those two words don’t float your boat, here are two more: “Patent Infringement.” Last quarter, Google generated half the revenue that Apple generated. Apple’s current market value exceeds Google’s by $70 billion. That’s “billion,” with a “b.” Google had better be defensive, at the very least. If they’re not simply consumed by hubris, then their public bluster masks fear.
Swisher continues, “Still, there was Google Engineering VP Vic Gundotra – doing his best imitation of a geek Gary Cooper – noting in this video below that ‘“if Google did not act, we faced a Draconian future in which one man, one company, one device, one carrier would be our only choice. That’s a future we don’t want.'”
MacDailyNews Take: Continuing on with the former Microsoftie Gundotra‘s train of thought: Because then we wouldn’t be able to monopolize mobile advertising, especially as mobile device users seem predisposed to use dedicated apps over random Web search.
Swisher continues, “As they say so eloquently on the ‘Really!?! With Seth and Amy’ segment on Saturday Night Live: ‘Reaaaaaallly!?! Reaaaaaallly!?!'”
Full article here.
MacDailyNews Take: Google. A bunch of amateurs.
[Thanks to MacDailyNews Reader “Arline M.,” “Edward W.,” and “jax44” for the heads up.]
Someone needs to call Rodney King.
Instead of everyone trying to do EVERYTHING… everyone needed to do their OWN thing. (i.e. Microsoft-Bing, Google-Android phones etc. etc. etc.)
Change a few words of Gundotra’s comments in the last paragraph and it could be Apple talking about Bill Gates and M$.
Google = Revenge of the Nerds
Geektown unleashed
We’re now masturbating in public!
Yuk
Google is happy to copy everything Apple does. Will Google be happy when Apple does search? One Sherlock selling point might be respect of privacy. Even a poor Sherlock as default on all Apple devices might gain acceptance and really hurt Google.
jaundiced,
You have it backwards: With Android, Google is obviously copying Apple’s iPhone (just like everyone else).
So, Apple has every right to criticize those who knock-off their products (Microsoft, Google, etc.).
When Microsoft or Google try it against Apple, it falls flat because they owe everything to Apple.
The biggest mistake Google ever made was blowing a great relationship with Apple by crossing the red line of trust and honesty and betraying the personal trust vested in the relationship between the 2 CEOs. That relationship would have handed Google a golden future and kept their image of “do no evil” intact. They can never deny the low level of ethics and loss of public trust, which will for ever liger regarding privacy issues – a critical element needed for a company whose main business is information mining and storage.
Honesty is good only till proven to be a farce.
MDN is exactly right: Verizon! The other key is The Apple Store. Then there’s that Android is becoming more and more Windows-like every day: shove everything in just for show. Do it and do it fast. Stick it in there! Hey, look what we’ve got!!!
Ha! It’s pretty clear at this point that Android is innovating and Apple is playing catch up. If iphone hits Verizon, it’ll become even more clear that it’s just another phone at this point, when marketed side by side with Android.
despite a blatent copy of the app store… the web app store isn’t such a bad idea…
“if Google did not act, we faced a Draconian future in which one man, one company, one device, one carrier would be our only choice. That’s a future we don’t want.'”
I thought he was talking about Adobe
You can never take the lead if you are always following the leader. Apple is the leader through a well-funded R&D;department fueled by innovation and creativity. Until Google or anyone else can do it better, Apple’s place is secure.
Methinks they do protest too much.
What’s sad here is that Apple’s exclusivity deal with Avoiding Teleconferencing & Tethering is giving Google such an opening. If a Verizon iPhone doesn’t come out soon, Apple’s going to face an uphill battle getting all of the current Android drones to convert. All of their “golden handcuffs” of photo albums, music, contacts, will be locked into Google, making it really hard to switch.
Android is Generic software. There are thousands of phones on the market that compete by shaving costs and every one engineers it’s hardware without regard to QC or specific quality and technical standard. Android therefore is totally unpredictable in it’s implementation and reliability, not to mention Support.
The seamless integration of software and hardware not only yield Apple revenue from both (while Android yields Google none of those at all) but are critical to the kind of user experience and reliability that make the iPhone and it’s family indispensable and the reason they are taking the world by storm 3 years after the initial release of the iPhone. IPad is just the beginning of Googles worries – Apple has a few more big surprises down the road a ways…
Say, Larry. Can you elucidate? In what ways is Android superior? You may want to look here before replying: http://scottworldblog.wordpress.com/2010/03/12/iphone-vs-droid/
After spending the requisite time in the Wilderness, Apple came to the point where they’re uniquely positioned to take care of most of their needs and do everything from software to hardware. Google, et.al., see this as a threat because they’re only good at a few pieces of the pie. The attacks on Apple will continue until the competition learns to adapt or falls by the wayside.
Oh, A. Turing, Brian Lam of Gizmodo wants to have your children.
After spending the requisite time in the Wilderness, Apple came to the point where they’re uniquely positioned to take care of most of their needs and do everything from software to hardware. Google, et.al., see this as a threat because they’re only good at a few pieces of the pie. The attacks on Apple will continue until the competition learns to adapt or falls by the wayside.
Oh, A. Turing, Brian Lam of Gizmodo wants to have your children.
After spending the requisite time in the Wilderness, Apple came to the point where they’re uniquely positioned to take care of most of their needs and do everything from software to hardware. Google, et.al., see this as a threat because they’re only good at a few pieces of the pie. The attacks on Apple will continue until the competition learns to adapt or falls by the wayside.
Oh, A. Turing, Brian Lam of Gizmodo wants to have your children.
After spending the requisite time in the Wilderness, Apple came to the point where they’re uniquely positioned to take care of most of their needs and do everything from software to hardware. Google, et.al., see this as a threat because they’re only good at a few pieces of the pie. The attacks on Apple will continue until the competition learns to adapt or falls by the wayside.
Oh, A. Turing, Brian Lam of Gizmodo wants to have your children.
After spending the requisite time in the Wilderness, Apple came to the point where they’re uniquely positioned to take care of most of their needs and do everything from software to hardware. Google, et.al., see this as a threat because they’re only good at a few pieces of the pie. The attacks on Apple will continue until the competition learns to adapt or falls by the wayside.
Oh, A. Turing, Brian Lam of Gizmodo wants to have your children.
After spending the requisite time in the Wilderness, Apple came to the point where they’re uniquely positioned to take care of most of their needs and do everything from software to hardware. Google, et.al., see this as a threat because they’re only good at a few pieces of the pie. The attacks on Apple will continue until the competition learns to adapt or falls by the wayside.
Oh, A. Turing, Brian Lam of Gizmodo wants to have your children.
After spending the requisite time in the Wilderness, Apple came to the point where they’re uniquely positioned to take care of most of their needs and do everything from software to hardware. Google, et.al., see this as a threat because they’re only good at a few pieces of the pie. The attacks on Apple will continue until the competition learns to adapt or falls by the wayside.
Oh, A. Turing, Brian Lam of Gizmodo wants to have your children.
People USED to talk about how Google should buy Apple. I think the opposite is true. Apple should buy Google, keep the search engine and the brand name and sell everything else at auction to pay down the debt load incurred in buying the company. That would also assuage any anti-trust concerns while putting Google in it’s place once and for all. Herr Schmidt would learn an important lesson about disloyalty and Apple would have a new revenue stream. That’s win-win if you ask me!
Here’s another thought. Google is scared of a four letter acronym: WWDC. There are many facts and rumors that can add up to an awesome Stevenote about products and services that are already in place. Google knows they are in place and so they announced now in order to grab mindshare for products debuting in the fall. I thought MDN’s rumor on a free MobileMe was bullshit but with Google acting like that maybe Apple will do it. Just to piss ’em off, and deny Google extra revenue.
Larry, you may want to consult this for your research, too:
http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2010/05/01/android-2-2-to-do-things-we-assumed-it-already-did/
Yes, I wish Google would become more defensive,
because as of now, I find them very OFFENSIVE……
Google’s “open” persona may appeal to Linux/Libertarian notions in their audience, even though Google intends to profit in a very greedy way from all this.
Under the flag of do-no-evil bs, Google is simple a sleazy advertising company, milking their ability to connect existing information. Beyond that, they brazenly and unethically copy the work of others to make me-too exploitive junk which is released in perpetual beta.
Apple has made my life better with brilliant, transformative devices and computers, has helped me rediscover music and blend it with my life, and given me the best tools for my photography, and working with information. The “walled garden” critics point to is part of crafting the experience and does not in any way limit access to the world. Their profit policy is based on the idea that making better products for a better experience brings success.
Google is so full of themselves, attacking Apple, it amounts to insisting that I, and a hundred million others, choose between them. Speaking for myself, they cannot possibly win that.
It’s really quite funny how Apple basically spent years just trying and mostly succeeding at breaking new ground, innovating, creating great products that work well with all other Apple products in a wide ecosystem… Mac OS X, Macs, iPods, iOS, iTunes, iTunes Store, Apple Retail, etc., etc..
There seemed to be little care in what the competition was doing, except for poaching their users (“I’m a Mac” ads).
Apple has been working on this strategy for over a decade and it’s all come together in extremely impressive fashion AND with VERY few duds (TV and the Cube, mainly because of price).
NOW there seem to be this legion of Apple loathers crawling out of their dark holes, spewing venom and bile… with generous portions of FUD. So, it’s gone from scoffing (Macs are toys, no market share, etc.) to bashing (evil Apple, walled garden, no Flash, etc.).
The lengths these people go to find (or make up) new ways to bash Apple and all things Apple is laughable.
If only they all would just STFU, leave us alone and go away.
It’s not just Verizon; if the exclusive ATT agreement is over, then T-Mobile can instantly jump in on the iPhone and I believe Sprint could use the CDMA iPhone as well. Sorta takes away the “one carrier” argument, which is stupid anyway, seeing as the iPhone is offered on multiple carriers in other countries.
Perhaps Google should say how bad it is to be tied to a one-trick <strike>phony</strike> pony. But that would be too self-depreciating. Google is looking more and more like Microsoft – make it big with one or two products (Windows and Office), and then keep throwing stuff at the wall hoping another revenue stream will stick. But it never does because the company can’t finish it right before it gets distracted by the “Next Big Ass <strike>Table</strike> Thing.”
It appears Larry is just another Stooge.
The least humorous one at that.
Wait til Steve and Eric meet for coffee again…
Gee- that demo went smooth huh. Saturated network my ass.
In the end, all the talk and hyperbole will fade away, and all that will be left are the actual devices to stand on their own. And keep in mind that all the fandroids are comparing these Android phones to the current iPhone. What will happen when Apple releases the next iPhone? I guess they will continue to try and play catch-up.
Who here didn’t expect this?
Apple has clearly got the world’s attention. Millions in the world have bought iPods, iPhones, and iPads from a company who makes terrific products for the Windows platform. Suddenly they find themselves having to defend their purchase at every turn. Complete strangers are suddenly ridiculing them because their newest gadget has a fruity logo.
Their only defense? But it works.
Sucks to be you, that’s what I say.
@Larry
Yeah dude, keep believing that. Android is for phone geeks that are the equivalent of PC geeks who want to build their own gaming PC. It’s quite obvious that Google and it’s partners do not give the care to the user experience that Apple does. Google’s innovation in this area only extends to where they can make money. No care for their customers , partners or developers has been demonstrated by Google ever since they launched this phone operating system. Rampant disregard for end user experience will really win them lots of core business in the end. But that’s Ok because they only want to sell advertising anyway, that’s who their real customers are…advertisers not end users. Good luck pushing any kind of innovation with that kind of agenda.
@bobchr
That’s it! Geek Pfones.
How long will it take for someone to invent a command line interface for it.
THEN it will be REALLY real!
Pardon my lack of intellect, I haven’t had my first cup of coffee yet this morning, but I am confused. If my understanding is correct Google believes it would be bad for one company to define the ecosystem, but apparently only if that company isn’t Google.
Google wants to be the only source for search and the only source for online advertising. Oh, and they will decide which of your personal information will be given to others without your knowledge or approval.
Right, that doesn’t sound Draconian at all.
Not just new phones…just wait till the iPhone OS 4.0 is released, improving performance of even existing iPhones while many Android owners don’t/can’t upgrade without shelling out $$$ for a new phone…
I just have to say, Kara Swisher absolutely made my day by including those Doctor Who references. 😀
Mr. Reeee- Thanks for the laugh.
Vic “levels with us” about Google’s utter fear and concern about a Draconian future over a phone that had just been released the same month as he joined the company (both happened June 2007).
Google acted to prevent a draconian future in 2005 when they bought Hemorrh(Andr)oid… iPhone was revealed in January 2007 and the App Store in July 2008.
Gundotra needs to cease + desist with his lying, and cheating people of facts with his invented history – skills he no doubt picked up during his days at Microsoft…
Be happy.
Don’t worry
An Apple a day ……
Chandra
Come on Steve, we need an Apple search bar instead of the Google.
The Google; the Kraken. Sounds a lot alike.
Google & others just ‘don’t get it’. Learn to give customers ‘what they want before they want it’ then you may understand why Apple Inc. continues to succeed and prosper.
Boycott everything Google.
From this day forward, I refuse to type, write or speak any word that contains a double o.
So let it be written – so let it be done.
I’m just glad their name isn’t Geegle, ’cause I sure couldn’t go without beer. Then again, it won’t be the same without n**kie.
Ah macheads love to criticize but can never be critical of thier god Steve Jobs. Look people whether or not iPhone sells more than android is not the point. I don’t like Steve jobs telling me what apps I can put on my phone. It’s my phone dammitt!!! Go ahead macheads and defend that one or are you too busy being on your knees sucking the Big machead? And don’t start with stupid comments like (” it apple’s store”) as don’t you sucker say the iPhone and or ipad is like a mini computer? If it was a mini-computer then I could any app I want on it. I like the iPhone but don’t like the overreaching morality of almighty Steve.
It’s simple, if Apple gets into Ads, how long before they get into Search? What is Google without Search?
G**gle execs display their inability to be original, with a feeble attempt to bitch slap Apple with Apple’s very own trope of George Orwell’s “Big Brother” from “1984”
I beginning to think that G**gle are becoming proficient in the art of Doublethink
– http://www.trincoll.edu/zines/tj/tj10.01.98/articles/cover.html –
and that is a worrying thought.
During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act, maybe G**gle should remember this other Orwellian deliberation –
“They had their cynical code worked out. The public are swine; advertising is the rattling of a stick inside a swill-bucket.”
– Keep the Aspidistra Flying (1936)
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@Jacob626
Do you expect a courteous response, to your inflammatory post?
If so … F**k off.
SKY LARK :
PROFOUND!
That’s nice, Jacob626. But it doesn’t really matter what you think. And it doesn’t even matter if you are right or wrong. Nothing has changed one iota since your post, and it won’t as long as SJ is CEO. So you can either live with nagging frustration or go find somewhere else to play. I hear that Android phones will let you run anything that you want – if you can find the app and it is compatible with the version of Android that you are running and…well, I suppose that will be frustrating for you, too.
It sucks to be Jacob626…
“I don’t like Steve jobs telling me what apps I can put on my phone.”
Then jailbreak it.
Oh wait. If you jailbroke it, then you couldn’t pretend to be outraged that “Steve Jobs is telling you what apps you can put on your phone” anymore.
Hah hah, silly me… I don’t know where by head is.
Google is hiding behind the “do no evil” and “open source” masks to commit nefarious activities on others. When caught it always pleaded that no harm was done and that everyone was making a fuss over nothing. Google is dangerous. It wants to control every channel of the world’s information and in doing so, it is prepared to remove every obstacle that gets into its way. What better way to endear itself to the unsuspecting public than to pretend that it is giving away free goodies to everyone? Nothing is free. Google peddles information to the highest bidder to earn obscene ads profits from advertisers, which pushes the cost to the final consumers. Also Google restricts competition on those whose space it decides to kill off. A small competitor whose product is superior to Google’s good-enough free goodies cannot be expected to ward off Google’s use of money diplomacy.
Another potential backlash of Google’s cavalier and wild wild West method of competition is that it would transform America’s corporations into mediocre don’t-take-the-risk breed of businesses. As was exemplified by Microsoft’s monopoly over the OS market, every manufacturer that jumped on the Window’s bandwagon decided to stop innovating and to just produce commodity-type PC boxes. They contracted out the design and production of the PC boxes to Asian competitors and just slapped their labels on the boxes to distinguish themselves from the rest. In the end it is a loss to America and a gain to Asian competitors as they move up the value chain. Google is repeating the same mistake of Microsoft and this will affect badly on America’s competitiveness.
Since Google’s stranglehold on the world’s information is enormous, the bad it could do with all the information is unimaginable. It could use its clout to punish those who oppose it. It can also punish governments and act as a Fifth Column to its own country to further its own agendas. Google is evil … its wings must be clipped before the world is trapped inside the Google’s gulag.
Google to Apple:
“We reject your reality and insert our own perpetual beta version of it.
“Vic Gundotra, a general manager for platform evangelism at Microsoft and a 15-year employee”
Because of brick-heads like Vic in MS, things like Windows Vista or the heavily patched Windows 7 exist.