CNBC’s Jim Goldman and Andy Hargreaves, Pacific Crest Securities analyst, discuss Apple vs. Google on the “Power Lunch” program:
Direct link to video via CNBC here.
MacDailyNews Take: Besides Apple vs. Google and Steve Jobs vs. Eric T. Mole, one thing’s plainly obvious after watching this video: “Power Lunch’s” Dennis Kneale is a twit.
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If Steve does hate Eric it’s understandable. It seems obvious that Eric befriended him, worked his way on to the board, and made off with some good idea’s. I’d be angry too
MDN: A twit that twitters like a putty tat
What’s with this “Apple stole from PARC”. Apple didn’t steal from PARC. Per Wikipedia: “Xerox was allowed to buy pre-IPO stock from Apple in exchange for engineer visits and an understanding that Apple would create a GUI product.”
Thanks a lot Mr. S. Since I have the same name with the same spelling you have ruined my dream of working at Apple by tarnishing it. Too bad I don’t want to work for Google…
helps him kick ass
my limited experience with google as a customer was awful ( ad sense ) they really really sucked ……………….
I say we see bing as an option, but time for Apple to go after search, ads, marketing, everything …………….. man is it going to feel good to short goog into the ground hahahahahahah
A case of “once bitten, twice shy” perhaps?
You know, I wouldn’t be surprised if all of this drama results only in Schmidt being removed by Google’s board. I’m sure no one over there thinks it’s a good idea to be fighting with Apple.
Sorry MDN, I can’t view the video on my iPhone
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Apple and Microsoft may have a future mobile collaboration?
I think somewhere there’s a mad scramble to find out what that guy’s smoking.
Eric is starting to look like Bill Gates doesn’t it? But I doubt Jobs has time to waste on hating people. He’s survived too much to misdirect his energy. People like Gates, Dell, and Schmidt come and go.
The real question is how much is MSFT paying these guys to fan the flame and spread LIES? We know blogs are unreliable editorial opinions, but hard to believe the day when the Enquirer contains more truth than the supposed major media outlets…
I’m not going to lie, I’m getting pretty tired of this Google/Apple war crap. It’s from the same dimbulbs that can’t grasp Apple’s place in the world, don’t understand why Google and Apple don’t constitute abusive monopolies, and haven’t been right about pretty much anything in last 5 years.
It’s gossip, pure and simple, and it’s the product of bored and venal minds.
I wonder how far away we are from from Apple resurrecting Sherlock to have their own search engine.
Take home message: Apple hypocrites, Apple stole it’s original designs from Xerox. A point most of you don’t remember because you weren’t even alive in the 80s. Welcome to the world of technology.
Oh, I hated Eric, first!
@playnice
ura tool, read the thread before u put ur foot in ur mouth and sond like an ignoramus
@ PlayNice – Apple paid for a tour of the Xerox PARC facilities, and a license to any technology they observed there. So, your use of the word “stole” here has no basis in reality.
“Welcome to the world of technology,” indeed – might be helpful to know your facts first, eh?
@ PlayNice – Here’s a link to get you started learning more – feel free to search for other sources, there’s not much disagreement on the facts.
I believe that Apple DID license Xerox’s technology. I wish people would review the facts before they speak.
Paid for a tour? And any licensed technologies? You’ve got to be kidding me, right? That is a joke. Let’s see Apple allow someone to go through their facilities on a “tour” and steal any of their technologies that they observed.
It is widely held that Apple took other peoples work. Whether it was through some amazingly poorly written agreement, or not. Their original designs came from Xerox. By your logic, Apple should have no problem opening their doors to competitors and pay a licensing fee to steal everything they’ve done.
How absurd.
@PlayNice
Go back under your bridge, troll. We don’t need any more idiots on this forum.
@play nice:
You are incorrect. Apple licensed Xerox technology because PARC wasn’t going to bring their ideas to market, and they licensed it to someone who would. Microsoft also visited PARC to get an idea of how to write software for graphical interfaces.
And yes, apple has taken ideas from others over the years, as all companies have. However, they have never taken patented technologies or IP from other people. It has happened to them on many occasions on the other hand. Most competitors wait for Apple to set a market and create a model, then shamlessly copy it as vest they can
Oh, and thanks for quoting a website that isn’t actually a reliable, verified source of information.
Even by that information, Apple just hired former Xerox people to steal the technology. Funny, that’s what Palm did and when the PRE started acting like an iPod, Apple freaked out and threatened to sue. Even if they aren’t hypocrites on paper, they are in principle. That is the point.
And after all the rivalry with Microsoft (see 4,000 “I’m a Mac ads”) they are willing to get into bed with Microsoft to stick it to google?
If Bing shows up on my iPhone I will burn it and say goodbye to shitty AT&T;service and go to a carrier who can actually deliver value, and call and coverage quality.
I have been a loyal Apple “fanboy” for a very long time, but Apple is getting to the point where I am starting to despise them like I did Microsoft.
They don’t like Flash, which DOMINATES the internet so they decide they are just going to try and take down 85% of the internet, bullying content providers to switch away. Who does that sound like to you? They refuse to open up the programming on the iPHone to an open developing community. Who does that sound like to you?
All of the principles that made Apple a great “different” company are going down the drain for corporate greed and domination of the market. They own the music market, they are getting close to owning the phone market and now they want the mobile computing market and they will crush anyone who will stand in their way.
P.S. Multi touch was invented 25 years ago in Bell labs. Here is the quote directly from Wikipedia
“The technology behind Surface is called multi-touch and has at least a 25-year history,[7] beginning in 1982, with pioneering work being done at the University of Toronto (multi-touch tablets) and Bell Labs (multi-touch screens). The product idea for Surface was initially conceptualized in 2001 by Steven Bathiche of Microsoft Hardware and Andy Wilson of Microsoft Research.”
The big risk is that Steve will be so distracted by his animosity for his former friend that the Mac, its OS, and the Apple software will lag while he devotes all his energy to iPhone and iPad.
Great example: upcoming meaningless MacPro upgrade.
I’ve been using the Internet almost daily since Netscape 1. Besides accidentally “run into” Flash site (and back out quickly), and knowing there are Flash ads (which I never click on) next to the main content on some sites I visit, I have never “used” Flash. I can do EVERYTHING I NEED to do on the web WITHOUT Flash. When someone CLAIMS that Flash “DOMINATES” the Web I have to laugh. That’s like saying since rats and cockroaches outnumber human beings, we should recognize them as superior life form. You guys are the ones living in a distorted reality.
I never liked Schmidt much myself.
As others mentioned, Apple din’t steal anything from Xerox. They legally licensed something Xerox had no interest in developing, then developed a revolutionary new product of of the PARC bare bones project.The Xerox mouse was a block of wood with sensors attached.
Let’s see, Apple has recently bought a map company and an internet ad company. You’d have figure there is a sudden interest in competing with Google’s product. When Jobs gets pissed he doesn’t sit around and mope. That huge “war chest” can make a lot happen in a hurry.