“Interviewed at the company’s Professional Developer Conference, the veteran developer tried to downplay apps as a lure and insisted that ‘all the apps that count’ will be available on every smartphone as the time to write and port code is much shorter than on the desktop,” Electronista reports. “Ozzie instead implied that it was the OS itself and its built-in features that would make the difference.”
MacDailyNews Take: So, even if he’s right, which he isn’t, the hopelessly outclassed Microsoft loses in those categories, too.
Electornista continues, “The comments are considered by attendees and critics to be a spin downplaying Windows Mobile’s weaknesses.”
Full article here.
MacDailyNews Take: Microsoft had its giant, bloated ass handed to it by Apple quite some time ago. Ozzie and Co. are obviously still having difficulty seeing anything but ass even today. Maybe that explains their product lineup.
Will have to change the expression ‘asshat’ to ‘ozzhat’.
LOL!
“His point is that the apps that count will either be first party developed apps, or they will be cross developed and available on all platforms, which means that if you can get find my car on your iphone, your also going to get find my car on your blackberry and windows mobile device.”
This is true. But the Mac/Window analogy holds.
Want to do something that 90% of the world wants to do (eg, Twitter, Facebook, etc.)? There’s an app for that. Want to do something that only 2% of the world wants to do (eg, be a DJ), you stand a better chance of finding an app for that on the most popular platform.
Again, if all you’re interested in is surfing the web, reading e-mail, word-processing/spreadsheets, etc., you’ll have no problem finding applications for the Mac or Windows to do that. Want to tune your car via the ECU? You’re going to be using Windows.
Wouldn’t it be great to have 100,000 more Mac apps? All one would need is a way to do “touch screen” like interface actions (from trackpads or the magic mouse) and a simulator to run the iPhone apps on a desktop or laptop machine. Of course, not all the features would work (e.g. location functions need GPS, phone functions need the phone), but many of the games and apps would probably work. Wouldn’t that boost the Mac even more?
I agree with MDN … except for the words. Sure, this guy is attempting to spin the situation. Badly. Using some of the same spin used to defend Macs, several years back. And it’s pretty much as valid. Well … IF the small number of available apps ARE all the ones the consumers need. Anything is kinda-sorta possible.
But, that’s no good reason to reach down for @$$ and the like. The only reason to talk like that is the scars from them directing like gloating, derogatory comments OUR way. We are better than that. Right?
Yeah, porting to all the important Mobile OSes, like OS X, Android, Symbian/Maemo, Rim’s but probably not any niche OSes that ship less than 10M licenses in a year like WinMo or WebOS.
“Ozzie and Co. are obviously still having difficulty seeing anything but ass even today.”
ROTFLMAO!
@DLMeyer
I fully agree with your comments on wording.
But here I disagree:
“And it’s pretty much as valid.”
no, it isn’t: when I opted for Mac in and since ’95, there were very good reasons to choose the option with fewer software choices. With WinMo, I can see really nothing that speaks for it.
“Mobile apps aren’t an important factor in the success of a smartphone platform”
What would a Microsoft software architect know about a successful smartphone platform? Unless of course he owns an iPhone. But of course he obviously doesn’t judging by the gist of his comments.
There’s pitiful, and then there’s pitiful. Can you imagine how the chief software architect of a major company could even think such a thing, much less say it???
as they say if you’re not the lead dog the view never changes. As Microsoft is one of the last dogs next to Palm. So it’s only natural that everyone at and talks for Microsoft smell like ass spew.
If porting of Apps were going to occur on a big scale it will be iPhone to Android because they are both Nix based Windows will be left on the sideline for the most part because it is more difficult takes longer and the market-share is a speck in the sea of iPhones and Android Phones.
Like Microsoft pays developers to not port Applications to Mac OS and Linux, Microsoft will pay some iPhone and Android App Developers to port their Apps to WinMo. The thinking and Actions of a Monopolist is always the same an the view does not change. If you can’t beat them in a free open market then use your huge Monopolistic profits to buy the advantage.
Microsoft still needs to be broken up into 6 to 9 smaller companies to allow the tech market to operate an grow faster in a free Market with open better competition. If Microsoft is allowed to keep it’s death grip on the tech industry the industry will stagnate and slow greatly. Microsoft should have been smashed into small pieces when the judge ruled it was a monopoly and ordered the break up of the monopoly. The Tech Industry would be 10 to 15 years feature down the road and we’d have a strong competitive computer ,IT and tech industry.
Microsoft and Google are The Evil Overlords of Tech. Wake-up and small the dog stuff on the Coffee breath of the Microsoft owned butt nerds veiled as unbiased tech journalist, reporters and bloggers
LOL!
Best take ever MDN!
Bite it, monkey boy… Bite it!
He should know better than to reopen this tired argument, but I suppose in some respects, like the view, this is all too new for him.
Did I mention Ozzie was there at the Microsoft Store opening in Scottsdale Arizona?
It was a dog & pony show for him and I thought for sure ballmer was going to make an appearance, being their flagship store and all.
Wow, Microsoft is saying the OS is the key? Not the applications? Wow, they build a crappy OS and then say how many applications is has over the Mac OS. Insisting thay it can not be as good because they have far more apps.
But, in the mobile OS phone world. It is not the apps now- even though that was used until the the rocket flew past their model T on the freeway. Does that mean Apples OS is better even of it has fewer apps and is succesful even when Microdud said it was a rounding error. Now they are the rounding and they are pulling a quality over quanity angle.
WOW start with BS from Microsoft.
That is really going to bit them.
How else is MS gonna spin this?
MS will say *anything* in defense of its position (no matter how lame) and will catagorically dismiss any of its competitor’s (Apple’s) strengths…
MS is in a losing position atm and all they have is spin, subterfuge and ‘sploitaion… oh yeh, and acquisitions (since they can’t innovate)… enjoy it while it lasts MS.
Gotta love the smell of burnt Ballmer flesh in the morning….
Haha. The man is a walking fool.
Once they port the MDN app, I’m in
When did Appl counting become important to Apple users. The MS guy just gave the exact same argument Apple fans have been giving for 20 years.
What do you expect, though, from a company like Microsoft that so ironically fails that to watch the MS video about IE9 Standards and Interoperability you need to install Microsoft Silverlight. And there is still no plan for IE9 to fully support CSS 2.1.
To Ballmer! May he run the organization until his dying day!
LOL…… That is funny. If Ozzie actually believes that, they should go ahead and close down the mobile division. Because, The iPhone has the best UI by a large margin, but if you took all of the apps away…….. I’m not sure that would fly.
Ötzi cannot say anything else without sounding like a commercial for Apple.
The general public does not notice these thins since they have a most short memory (see for which politicians we keep voting…) or so thinks Ötzi
to maciphonian It would be a bit odd to tilt a MacPro around to play Evade, DuckShoot, Spinner… or to check PangeaVR, but quite OK for a MacBook (Pro). on the other hand it would look funny and be quite dangerous for the flight attendants in a plane to see everybody waving their computers around…
OK…so it’s not …(all together now!)…”Developers, developers, developers, DEVELOPERS…Developers, developers, developers, DEVELOPERS…(repeat ad infinitum)
@Jim McIntyre:
Steve Jobs’ Reality Enabling Field: That has a nice ring to it!
The OS is the most important factor. The iPhone wouldn’t be anything without Mac OS X for iPhone and multi-touch.
But add in the apps, and it can’t be beat. Certainly not by Microsoft’s Win Immobile.
Ozzie should stop taking advice from Harriet.
@newton
Or in Ozzie’s case, the Reality Dielectric Field, wherein he leads a life insulated from reality.