“U.S. Energy Secretary Steven Chu said he applauds companies that have quit the U.S. Chamber of Commerce over disagreement with the business group’s climate change policy,” Tom Doggett reports for Reuters.
“‘I think it’s wonderful,’ Chu told reporters at a solar energy event on the National Mall,” Doggett reports. “He said other companies should quit the group because the Chamber does not fully recognize the business possibilities in taking aggressive action on climate.”
“On Monday, Apple Inc. resigned from the chamber while last month three big power utilities, Exelon Corp, PG&E Corp and PNM Resources Inc, said they were leaving the chamber,” Doggett reports. “Other companies have criticized the chamber, which has pushed for public hearings to challenge the scientific evidence of man-made climate change.”
Doggett reports, “The chamber has said it favors ‘mainstream, common sense views’ on climate change but opposes a climate bill that the House of Representatives narrowly passed in June.”
Full article here.
The Silicon Valley / San Jose Business Journal reports, “The head of the [U.S. Chamber of Commerce], however, renewed his criticism of the resignations, saying it was the victim of an organized campaign by environmentalists. He said Apple and others have misstated the chamber’s position. ‘It’s pretty clear because we’ve heard it from our own companies that a number of environmental groups are trying to apply some pressure on Chamber companies to apply pressure on us to change our views,’ Chamber President Thomas Donohue said at a press conference.”
Full article here.
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Hey Global Warming is a fact. No one can debate it.
Glaciers once cover half of North America- been to Yosmite?
The earth has warmed and cooled long before man could even click stones together. For VARIOUS reasons.
The main question to ask is how do we stop a planet- get it- A PLANET- from doing anything on a scale this large. If, it is true and it is man made- then it will take centuries to unwind and it will need to go back to an farming life- dump modern! How many are willing to do this?
Now, the big question! What is the temperture range that the countries are to be set at? Is America set to keep it’s temperture at the best possible one. And the straving dry desert in Africa at the same temperture and rain fall?
If you can control the enviroment you must know which are to be the prefered countries that will recieve the best tempertures. What are these countries?
If you go back in history to the time of global warming, it was lush, rained on a global scale, and was rich in life. Just before global cooling killed most species, limited planet growth, declined oxygen production, and life became harder. Dinosaurs were large because the level of oxygen was in such amounts that life could be supersized= a lot of plant life.
Global warming bad? Or do we live in a slice of time that we think is normal!?
Think, be critical and look back in the history of the planet.
My two cents
@jeffr
Cap and trade would reduce emissions of greenhouse gases by imposing a cap on total allowable emissions from major U.S. sources, then reducing that cap year by year.
Because greenhouse gases cause global warming, the idea (solidly supported by scientific evidence) is that emitting fewer greenhouse gases would cause less global warming.
Because the cap would come down slowly, and because more innovative companies could make money by selling the allowances they no longer need to environmental laggards, the economy would be able to transition relatively smoothly to lower-carbon production (e.g. natgas and renewables rather than coal for electricity; greater efficiency; etc).
Believe it or not, the goal of cap and trade is to reduce GW, not to increase your electric bill for no reason. BTW, how much is your electric bill anyway? $50 a month? $75? Even if it does go up, are you seriously going to tell me you couldn’t afford a couple more bucks on your electric bill to leave your grandchildren a stable food supply and a New York City that’s not 10 feet underwater?
FYI, I buy 100% renewable electricity already, voluntarily… it has increased my electric bill by… wait… OOOOOOOHHH about $6 per month. Damn that Light Switch Tax, I pretty much can’t afford that extra bag of Cheetos now! Socialism!
http://www.biodieselnow.com
I run two Volkswagens on 100% Biodiesel that is made from pure soybean oil by commercial manufacturers. It’s good stuff.
Not much discussion about Apple in this thread. Just sayin….
Global warming or no global warming, what the heck is wrong with keep our planet clean and green?
LOL! I LAUGH at anyone who turns climate change issues into a political issue. You make me laugh. And you make me sad. As MacPatty said, global warming or no global warming, what is wrong with keeping our planet as clean and green as possible. Even if you could prove unequivocally that global warming doesn’t exist, it would not mean that it was suddenly okay to pollute to your heart’s content.
Clean yes. Green is based on favorable temperture and water. Green will be the function of mother nature.
Yes on clean.
Nature covers the green.
Energy Secretary Steven Chu is a Nobel Prize winner, winning the Prize in Physics along with with Claude Cohen-Tannoudji and William Daniel Phillips.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Chu
A real scientist as Energy Secretary – that’s a refreshing change from the political hacks who have occupied the post previously, from both parties.
Save the planet – kill the people. They have it coming.
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The level of clean can impact the green, though, Henry. Witness the toxicity of fresh-water bodies due to pollution and the negative impact that has on those ecosystems and the plants, fauna and animals living in them.
I really just like posting this link. It’s funny how global warming deniers can’t come up with a similar list of scholarly works.
http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=“Global+Warming”++&hl=en&btnG=Search&lr=lang_en
@Figurative
Sounds like you want him to fail.
You want, the President of the United States, to Fail, at trying to make the world a more peaceful place?
You do not support that goal.
And you will do, whatever you can, to stop him.
What are you? I am glad you do not represent America.
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Satan worshipers are all alike.
There is no “Rock Solid Evidence” of Man Made GW or Man Made CC or what ever they are spinning it as now. Climate is always changing. It’s a big scam to tax you people to death and control your lives. My opinions have nothing to do with Beck or Limbaugh or Fox News either, so don’t even say it.
Dead wrong.
If you claim AGW is “a big scam,” then you better be able to back it up. That means refuting each and every one of these 700 peer reviewed publications providing evidence for AGW.
http://www.ipcc.ch/pdf/technical-papers/ccw/references.pdf
@ fredo
We’re all happy you’re trying to save the earth. But for some of us, we don’t want to pay any more than we have to. Even if it’s a few buck a month. Thanks for the financial lessons!!
@ Bizarro Jeff
Yes, that is true. But human life spans are not the core of a global weather or ecological system.
No matter how badly the surface, air, water, etc. is contaminted- the planet works on billion of years. Most humans consider decades and research data in the hundreds of years.
In a million years the most polluted area on the planet will be cleaned and will be uses by nature. This will be again green.
Our planet is indestructible to humans. It has survives global killing meteors, super valcancos, and every event never known.
The Mantra should be- Save our species, keep the planet in balance.
Green is and will be mother nature. No human force will ever destory this rock.
As HENRY said- nature is the greater force. Man is a small temporary speck that will be erased by suduction of the crust. No trace will be found as the earth recycles ALL the surface.
I think we should have public hearings to debate whether or not the world is flat. Feels flat to you, doesn’t it? I drop a marble on the floor and it doesn’t move. It just sits there. And all my friends say the same thing.
Now, who am I expected to believe? A bunch of eggheads at some research lab somewhere, or the common-sense knowhow of all my friends and THEIR friends??
The Earth is flat. It’s as obvious as my flat head.
The CTP App must be heating up!
You know what CTP is: It’s the ‘Conservative Talking Point’ app available for the iPhone.
You know what iPhone is: It’s Apple’s spectacular smartphone.
You know what Apple is: A fabulously successful American computer company founded and run by liberals.
Arguing politics on a blog is like the special olympics. Even if you win, you’re still retarded.
That’s Great.
The company is run very conservative and is not one run off emotion to please everyone. They are smart liberials that run a company based on the wealthy profile and not the poor. Profit is the vehicle that runs the company and they make no bones about it.
If you can not offered our system, look for another.
Sounds kinda conservative to me.
Strong green policy. Exiting the Chamber of Commerce. Al Gore on the board. Liberal Northern California based. Founded by wacky hippies.
Sounds very liberal to me.
Liberial operation, yes.
Founded on solid business principles that work- conservative. Otherwise they would be like Microsoft and running around trying to make everyone happy.
Founded by smart liberials that understand that conservative business practices are used- you make money in the long term.
Yea, they do everything in house. They share little with others. Sounds Republican or as it appears now-democrat. Hell, they both are out for themselves. Democratics have raised the cost 8,000 dollars per family in the US. Plus more taxes to come. If I was not poor before I will be freaking soon!
Hang ’em all!!!
A toast to clean air with a glass water & methyl tertiary butyl ether.