“U.S. Energy Secretary Steven Chu said he applauds companies that have quit the U.S. Chamber of Commerce over disagreement with the business group’s climate change policy,” Tom Doggett reports for Reuters.
“‘I think it’s wonderful,’ Chu told reporters at a solar energy event on the National Mall,” Doggett reports. “He said other companies should quit the group because the Chamber does not fully recognize the business possibilities in taking aggressive action on climate.”
“On Monday, Apple Inc. resigned from the chamber while last month three big power utilities, Exelon Corp, PG&E Corp and PNM Resources Inc, said they were leaving the chamber,” Doggett reports. “Other companies have criticized the chamber, which has pushed for public hearings to challenge the scientific evidence of man-made climate change.”
Doggett reports, “The chamber has said it favors ‘mainstream, common sense views’ on climate change but opposes a climate bill that the House of Representatives narrowly passed in June.”
Full article here.
The Silicon Valley / San Jose Business Journal reports, “The head of the [U.S. Chamber of Commerce], however, renewed his criticism of the resignations, saying it was the victim of an organized campaign by environmentalists. He said Apple and others have misstated the chamber’s position. ‘It’s pretty clear because we’ve heard it from our own companies that a number of environmental groups are trying to apply some pressure on Chamber companies to apply pressure on us to change our views,’ Chamber President Thomas Donohue said at a press conference.”
Full article here.
“Other companies have criticized the chamber, which has pushed for public hearings to challenge the scientific evidence of man-made climate change.”
What are they challenging the scientific evidence with? Economic evidence? Legal evidence? What?
Personal, anecdotal evidence.
probably REAL evidence–rather than what the b#ll$h%t global warming scam posse tries to foist upon us. GW is a $cam folks
Glenbeckidence.
btw–if you’re so sure of the standing GW ‘evidence’–what’s the harm in having public hearings? Seems GW liars would have their platform. Pretty telling.
or ALGorythms..
M. You’re an idiot. You probably believe in Creationism, Homeopathy, and alien abductions.
The scientific evidence for human caused Global Warming is solid. Your Fox News/Google university education is an embarrassment.
M. You idiot. Science is not performed and analyzed by “public hearings.” It is done through a process of experimentation, peer review and publication. But your Fox News intellect is perhaps confused by real science.
GW is a scam. It’s nature. GWB was also a scam, he was not a natural conservative. Long live Glenn.
Yeah all those new islands that are being revealed as the ice melts off Greenland, they’re not real.
@ LeftCoast
Layoff the granola & petiole–go crawl back into that decrepit humanist/nihilistic hole you crawled out of..
I also applaud Apple for standing behind Steven Chu and 2009 Nobel Peace Prize winner Barack Obama.
President Obama, Nobel laureate, is on a mission to bring man-made climate change to a halt. His leadership will hopefully inspire other countries to follow suit with their own campaigns to end global warming.
btw–if you’re so sure of the standing GW ‘evidence’–what’s the harm in having public hearings? Seems GW liars would have their platform. Pretty telling.
Wow. Just wow. This is one of the most ignorant things I’ve ever read.
You don’t put science on trial for a jury to decide its outcome. That’s beyond ludicrous.
If we’re going to do that for climate change, let’s similarly do it for the theory of relativity, cell theory, germ theory, atomic theory, quantum theory, etc. LOL. I’d love to see quantum theory put on trial and see how well the lawyers and juries understand it. LOL!
but maybe they should wait to filate Obama AFTER he’s actually achieved something..just a thought
so we should just take the a few scientists word for it? How about the ones who are declaring it junk science? I guess they should be silenced because they don’t hold your political viewpoint? Science is ALL ABOUT challenging theory. Not accepting only what the media wants to have us believe..
Rob
Scopes trial.
@R2
Actually (and finally) President Obama is THE FIRST american president who IS INSPIRED by few countries who allready took measures concirning climat. President Obama is the first smart enough president to be aware of the problems most american wanted to williingly ignore and the first to act in the right direction. President Obama is the first american President who knows the depth of US delay and lag in many matters, and dares to share it publicly (risking his life because of dummy blinds who’d like to having rather dead!).
@M
I’ve chased down the credentials of some of those “scientists” who have declared GW junk science. They’ve been associated with big right-wing think tanks funded by big energy. In big red states. And those are the ones who are “the few”. The vast majority of real scientists line up on the side of GW. Now who’s trying to scam who?
@Rob,
Evolutionary science has already been put on trial. Fortunately, it’s won so far. When evolution loses, all the rest you mention will be next.
Welcome to the Fundamentalist Lunatic Right Wing Dark Ages, everyone.
Hey guy’s enough arguing the science, this is about cap and trade which does nothing except increase (tax) your energy costs. the issue is ‘if’ you are wholly concerned with GW then great, but how does making me pay more help?
There is no “Rock Solid Evidence” of Man Made GW or Man Made CC or what ever they are spinning it as now. Climate is always changing. It’s a big scam to tax you people to death and control your lives. My opinions have nothing to do with Beck or Limbaugh or Fox News either, so don’t even say it.
Obama. Nobel Prize?
Buhahahahaaaa, LOL!!!!!
Whatajoke.
“so we should just take the a few scientists word for it? How about the ones who are declaring it junk science?”
Here is a good list of the ‘few scientists’ that have found empirical evidence of global warming:
http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=“Global+Warming”++&hl=en&btnG=Search&lr=lang_en
These are not bloggers, or newspapers, or TV talking heads. These are real scientists writing for real scientific journals. There is more than enough evidence than any reasonable thoughtful person could ever need. The theory is well examined and has been studied by scientists from every angle.
If there are scientists that declare it to be ‘Junk Science’ they are not publishing their findings.
R2 writes, “President Obama, Nobel laureate, is on a mission to bring man-made climate change to a halt. His leadership will hopefully inspire other countries to follow suit with their own campaigns to end global warming.”
Oh, please! Put down that Kool-Aid. Nominations closed on Feb 1, while O was only sworn into office on January 20. Wow, those must have been 10 phenomenally productive days!. In truth, the Peace prize has always been political, reflecting policies the Norwegians favor at the moment. Kissinger and Arafat also won it. Obama won it just for being Obama and not George Bush.
As to ending global warming, the Waxman-Markey bill will do no such thing. It is a poorly constructed political document that will, over ten years, transfer a trillion dollars out of consumer pockets to favored interests and government coffers (to support increased spending). Most of the resulting CO-2 reductions will come from the resulting economic slowdown.
Even if Barack Obama is never actually able to succeed in his dreams, at least for now he has changed the world’s opinion about the U.S. and its goals.
I, for one, hope his dreams are the ones he spoke of in his campaign. . . . And I hope he is successful beyond all our dreams.
Whad’ya think Chrissy?
I think you’re all a buncha’ rubes.
Oh dear. The astroturfers are back on this site. The checks are in the mail boys.
Don’t forget to check out Rick Berman’s new site: LeadPaintIsTastyForToddlers.com
Hey Global Warming is a fact. No one can debate it.
Glaciers once cover half of North America- been to Yosmite?
The earth has warmed and cooled long before man could even click stones together. For VARIOUS reasons.
The main question to ask is how do we stop a planet- get it- A PLANET- from doing anything on a scale this large. If, it is true and it is man made- then it will take centuries to unwind and it will need to go back to an farming life- dump modern! How many are willing to do this?
Now, the big question! What is the temperture range that the countries are to be set at? Is America set to keep it’s temperture at the best possible one. And the straving dry desert in Africa at the same temperture and rain fall?
If you can control the enviroment you must know which are to be the prefered countries that will recieve the best tempertures. What are these countries?
If you go back in history to the time of global warming, it was lush, rained on a global scale, and was rich in life. Just before global cooling killed most species, limited planet growth, declined oxygen production, and life became harder. Dinosaurs were large because the level of oxygen was in such amounts that life could be supersized= a lot of plant life.
Global warming bad? Or do we live in a slice of time that we think is normal!?
Think, be critical and look back in the history of the planet.
My two cents
@jeffr
Cap and trade would reduce emissions of greenhouse gases by imposing a cap on total allowable emissions from major U.S. sources, then reducing that cap year by year.
Because greenhouse gases cause global warming, the idea (solidly supported by scientific evidence) is that emitting fewer greenhouse gases would cause less global warming.
Because the cap would come down slowly, and because more innovative companies could make money by selling the allowances they no longer need to environmental laggards, the economy would be able to transition relatively smoothly to lower-carbon production (e.g. natgas and renewables rather than coal for electricity; greater efficiency; etc).
Believe it or not, the goal of cap and trade is to reduce GW, not to increase your electric bill for no reason. BTW, how much is your electric bill anyway? $50 a month? $75? Even if it does go up, are you seriously going to tell me you couldn’t afford a couple more bucks on your electric bill to leave your grandchildren a stable food supply and a New York City that’s not 10 feet underwater?
FYI, I buy 100% renewable electricity already, voluntarily… it has increased my electric bill by… wait… OOOOOOOHHH about $6 per month. Damn that Light Switch Tax, I pretty much can’t afford that extra bag of Cheetos now! Socialism!
http://www.biodieselnow.com
I run two Volkswagens on 100% Biodiesel that is made from pure soybean oil by commercial manufacturers. It’s good stuff.
Not much discussion about Apple in this thread. Just sayin….
Global warming or no global warming, what the heck is wrong with keep our planet clean and green?
LOL! I LAUGH at anyone who turns climate change issues into a political issue. You make me laugh. And you make me sad. As MacPatty said, global warming or no global warming, what is wrong with keeping our planet as clean and green as possible. Even if you could prove unequivocally that global warming doesn’t exist, it would not mean that it was suddenly okay to pollute to your heart’s content.
Clean yes. Green is based on favorable temperture and water. Green will be the function of mother nature.
Yes on clean.
Nature covers the green.
Energy Secretary Steven Chu is a Nobel Prize winner, winning the Prize in Physics along with with Claude Cohen-Tannoudji and William Daniel Phillips.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Chu
A real scientist as Energy Secretary – that’s a refreshing change from the political hacks who have occupied the post previously, from both parties.
Save the planet – kill the people. They have it coming.
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The level of clean can impact the green, though, Henry. Witness the toxicity of fresh-water bodies due to pollution and the negative impact that has on those ecosystems and the plants, fauna and animals living in them.
I really just like posting this link. It’s funny how global warming deniers can’t come up with a similar list of scholarly works.
http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=“Global+Warming”++&hl=en&btnG=Search&lr=lang_en
@Figurative
Sounds like you want him to fail.
You want, the President of the United States, to Fail, at trying to make the world a more peaceful place?
You do not support that goal.
And you will do, whatever you can, to stop him.
What are you? I am glad you do not represent America.
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Satan worshipers are all alike.
There is no “Rock Solid Evidence” of Man Made GW or Man Made CC or what ever they are spinning it as now. Climate is always changing. It’s a big scam to tax you people to death and control your lives. My opinions have nothing to do with Beck or Limbaugh or Fox News either, so don’t even say it.
Dead wrong.
If you claim AGW is “a big scam,” then you better be able to back it up. That means refuting each and every one of these 700 peer reviewed publications providing evidence for AGW.
http://www.ipcc.ch/pdf/technical-papers/ccw/references.pdf
@ fredo
We’re all happy you’re trying to save the earth. But for some of us, we don’t want to pay any more than we have to. Even if it’s a few buck a month. Thanks for the financial lessons!!
@ Bizarro Jeff
Yes, that is true. But human life spans are not the core of a global weather or ecological system.
No matter how badly the surface, air, water, etc. is contaminted- the planet works on billion of years. Most humans consider decades and research data in the hundreds of years.
In a million years the most polluted area on the planet will be cleaned and will be uses by nature. This will be again green.
Our planet is indestructible to humans. It has survives global killing meteors, super valcancos, and every event never known.
The Mantra should be- Save our species, keep the planet in balance.
Green is and will be mother nature. No human force will ever destory this rock.
As HENRY said- nature is the greater force. Man is a small temporary speck that will be erased by suduction of the crust. No trace will be found as the earth recycles ALL the surface.
I think we should have public hearings to debate whether or not the world is flat. Feels flat to you, doesn’t it? I drop a marble on the floor and it doesn’t move. It just sits there. And all my friends say the same thing.
Now, who am I expected to believe? A bunch of eggheads at some research lab somewhere, or the common-sense knowhow of all my friends and THEIR friends??
The Earth is flat. It’s as obvious as my flat head.
The CTP App must be heating up!
You know what CTP is: It’s the ‘Conservative Talking Point’ app available for the iPhone.
You know what iPhone is: It’s Apple’s spectacular smartphone.
You know what Apple is: A fabulously successful American computer company founded and run by liberals.
Arguing politics on a blog is like the special olympics. Even if you win, you’re still retarded.
That’s Great.
The company is run very conservative and is not one run off emotion to please everyone. They are smart liberials that run a company based on the wealthy profile and not the poor. Profit is the vehicle that runs the company and they make no bones about it.
If you can not offered our system, look for another.
Sounds kinda conservative to me.
Strong green policy. Exiting the Chamber of Commerce. Al Gore on the board. Liberal Northern California based. Founded by wacky hippies.
Sounds very liberal to me.
Liberial operation, yes.
Founded on solid business principles that work- conservative. Otherwise they would be like Microsoft and running around trying to make everyone happy.
Founded by smart liberials that understand that conservative business practices are used- you make money in the long term.
Yea, they do everything in house. They share little with others. Sounds Republican or as it appears now-democrat. Hell, they both are out for themselves. Democratics have raised the cost 8,000 dollars per family in the US. Plus more taxes to come. If I was not poor before I will be freaking soon!
Hang ’em all!!!
A toast to clean air with a glass water & methyl tertiary butyl ether.
They are sitting on close to 30 billion dollars of cash. They do share. They adopt the green image.
WHAT THE HELL!!!
They are closet Republicans dressed as liberial hippies!!!! They are pulling a huge scam on the liberials. Or the liberials are turning into the conseritives!!! The party of money turned to the democrats 3 years ago. The party of wealth is democrats- the poor party now is Republicans.
What is Apple? The consertive liberials or the liberial conservatives?!!!!!!
Damn them!
@Mike
Are you threatening them?
@ggen,
Just like you would prefer not to pay even a few bucks for a livable earth for our children, many people would also prefer not to pay for the roads they drive on. Fortunately, for thousands of years sensible people have agreed on using the power of taxation to compel even the stingiest among us to contribute to common infrastructure and defense. (And make no mistake, fighting global warming is an urgent matter of national defense— military leaders are the first to say so!)
Without taxes, we would all still be in the Stone age.
As for making a buck, as a shareholder, I’m glad for more reasons than one to see Apple take sides on a political issue with the majority of the world (that is, potential customers) who understand we need strong action to save our planet, rather than with a shrinking minority of dinosaur-era polluting industries and their American numb-nutz ideologue enablers.
I just want clean bong water.
I’m curious about something. As a liberal, there are quite a few liberals that I wish would just go away and disappear into a hole. They are idiots and not worth listening to at all.
It’s often said that conservatives march in lock-step (goose-step, even) with one another, right off a cliff if need be. I know there are some like that (it’s a form of tribalism, very primitive behavior, and you can find it in some so-called liberals and some so-called conservatives). But, do you march in lock-step with one another? Do you similarly wish some conservative leaders would just disappear down a hole? Do you think some are just congenital liars, like I think about some liberals?
Here are some liberals I despise and consider extremely dishonest, and the best of them always put their thumbs on the scale, the worst are just lying hacks: Camille Paglia, Maureen Dowd, Thomas Friedman, Chris Matthews, Keith Olbermann, George Stephanopoulos, Frank Rich come straight to mind, there are others, too.
Chris Matthews is not a liberal. Camille Paglia is a closet conservative, no liberal she.
So, what liberal writers do you like, Ron?
The argument about CC or GW is moot. There is enough real world factual evidence on both poles and climate disasters causing billions of dollars in losses to property and loss of lives. The wealth of conservatives are often rooted in the past, hence their reluctance to change. Hell for all we know their unenlightened stance may have partial validity. Yes climate change has been happening on earth for billions of years. The real issue here is how it will affect the 6 billion plus members of the human tribe. The last significant climate change event almost found the human race extinct. Can’t spend your wealth if you’re extinct now can you. The earth has already proven it can exist without us, the ironic thing here is the ones with the vested interest in keeping the status quo going will probably be the first to try to buy a solution after the fact.
@I see dumb people
Your flippant remark is disgraceful and despicable.
I vote that you be prohibited from this site as you are obviously not socially developed
Aggressive narcissism –
Glibness/superficial charm
Grandiose sense of self-worth
Pathological lying
Conning/manipulative
Lack of remorse or guilt
Shallow affect
Callous/lack of empathy
Failure to accept responsibility for own actions.
Read about it
DIVORCE AGREEMENT
American liberals, leftists, social progressives, socialists, Marxists, Obama supporters, et al:
We have stuck together since the late 1950’s, but the whole of this latest election process has made me realize that I want a divorce. I know we tolerated each other for many years for the sake of future generations, but sadly, this relationship has run its course.
Our two ideological sides of America cannot and will not ever agree on what is right so let’s just end it on friendly terms. We can smile and chalk it up to irreconcilable differences and go our own way.
Here is a model separation agreement:
Our two groups can equitably divide up the country by landmass, each taking a portion. That will be the difficult part, but I am sure our two sides can come to a friendly agreement. After that, it should be relatively easy! Our respective representatives can effortlessly divide other assets since both sides have such distinct and disparate tastes.
We don’t like redistributive taxes so you can keep them. You are welcome to the liberal judges and the ACLU. Since you hate guns and war, we’ll take our firearms, the cops, the NRA and the military.
You can keep Oprah, Michael Moore and Rosie O’Donnell (You are, however, responsible for finding a bio-diesel vehicle big enough to move all three of them).
We’ll keep capitalism, greedy corporations, pharmaceutical companies, Wal-Mart and Wall Street. You can have your beloved homeless, homeboys and illegal aliens. We’ll keep the hot Alaskan hockey moms, greedy CEO’s and rednecks. We’ll keep the Bibles and give you NBC and Hollywood .
You can make nice with Iran and Palestine and we’ll retain the right to invade and hammer places that threaten us. You can have the peaceniks and war protesters. When our allies or our way of life are under assault, we’ll help provide them security..
We’ll keep our Judeo-Christian values. You are welcome to Islam, Scientology, Humanism and Shirley MacLaine . You can also have the U.N. but we will no longer be paying the bill.
We’ll keep the SUVs, pickup trucks and oversized luxury cars. You can take every Subaru station wagon you can find.
You can give everyone healthcare if you can find any practicing doctors.. We’ll continue to believe healthcare is a luxury and not a right. We’ll keep The Battle Hymn of the Republic and the National Anthem. I’m sure you’ll be happy to substitute Imagine, I’d Like to Teach the World to Sing, Kum Ba Ya, or We Are the World.
We’ll practice trickle down economics and you can give trickle up poverty your best shot. Since they so often offend you, we’ll keep our history, our name and our flag.
Would you agree to this? If so, please pass it along to other like minded liberal and conservative patriots, and if you do not agree, just hit delete.. In the spirit of friendly parting, I’ll bet you can answer which one of us will need whose help in 15 years.
Sincerely,
John J. Wall
Law Student and an American
P.S. Also, please take Ted Turner, Sean Penn, Martin Sheen, Barbara Streisand, and Jane Fonda with you.
P. S. S. And we won’t have to press 1 for English.
Seriously, John J. Wall. That was pure genius. Not funny. Not clever. But pure genius in a Red state, hillbilly, redneck way. Genius. That’s why I’m copying it and will refer to it whenever I need to recall what the right-wing mind set is all about. Thank you.
btw: The divorce is a great idea – just stay in the Red states, okay? And good luck when all that Blue states tax money no longer supports your former confederate states. Or do you want alimony, too?
Damn! I fell for a silly, cut-and-paste, wingnut political meme that’s been circulating on the Internets the last year! “John J. Wall” indeed!
Never mind.
@ Divorce
Actually, you wingnuts already tried that back in 1861. It was called the Civil War. Look it up.
Oops, wingnuts. Science owns you again.
CO2 levels higher now than in the last 15 million years.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/10/091008152242.htm
@Divorce
Me too! Where do I sign?
@thethirdshoe–mmm that’s funny when Bush was in office you couldn’t wait for him to fail, you prayed to your satanic god to destroy him and did everything you could to along with your all your leftcoastdudes to discredit, sure if funny now how “your boy” shit don’t even smell and hell all he has to do is say “can’t we all just get long?pleeeeeeease and puff he get’s a nobel prize, how pathetic you are you still can’t come up with one reasonable argument of substance just name calling–like second graders wawawawa you are pathetic
@mike I agree hang’em all!
Bush put us a one trillion in debt in 8 years and the Dems all screamed “the poor children and grandchildren!” Obama put us 9 trillion in debt in 80 days–and not one peep about the kids or grandkids from the Dems or any other fucking liberal that visits this site and spews their bazaar shit at us–liberalism is a mental disorder
@Dave
Obama put us 9 trillion in debt in 80 days
LOL! 100% false.
At Bor (Rob spelled backwards), You are 100% wrong again. Just like all of your posts. You haven’t been right once. This climate change BS is a liberal plot to take over more of the economy, take away more freedom, and steel our hard earned private property. Anyone here the news interviews of the liberals in Detroit getting free “Porkulus” handouts? Pathetic. You liberals want to destroy the economy and the US in order to grab more and more power. You people are f*cking sick and we hate you and won’t let it happen.
IT’S ABOUT TIME SOMEONE FOUND THESE!
Indonesia, Left to Right:
Lolo Soetoro, Stanley Ann Dunham Soetoro, baby Maya Soetoro, and 9 year old Barry Soetoro.
This registration document, made available on Jan. 24, 2007, by the Fransiskus Assisi school in
Jakarta, Indonesia, shows the registration of Barack Obama under the name
Barry Soetoro made by his step-father, Lolo Soetoro.
Name: Barry Soetoro
Religion: Islam
Nationality: Indonesian
How did this little INDONESIAN Muslim child – Barry Soetoro, (A.K.A. Barack Obama) get around
the issue of nationality to become President of the United States of America ?
PART 2:
In a move certain to fuel the debate over Obama’s qualifications for the presidency, the group
“Americans for Freedom of Information” has released copies of President Obama’s college
transcripts from Occidental College ..
The transcript indicates that Obama, under the name Barry Soetoro, received financial aid as a
foreign student from Indonesia while an undergraduate at the school. The transcript was released
by Occidental College in compliance with a court order in a suit brought by the group in the
Superior Court of California. The transcript shows that Obama (Soetoro) applied for financial aid
and was awarded a fellowship for foreign students from the Fulbright Foundation Scholarship program.
To qualify for this scholarship, a student must claim foreign citizenship..
This document provides the smoking gun that many of Obama’s detractors have been seeking –
that he is NOT a natural-born citizen of the United States – necessary to be President of these
United States . Along with the evidence that he was first born in Kenya , here we see that there is no
record of him ever applying for US citizenship..
Gary Kreep of the United States Justice Foundation has released the results of their investigation
of Obama’s campaign spending.
This study estimates that Obama has spent upwards of $950,000 in campaign funds in the past year
with eleven law firms in 12 states for legal resources to block disclosure of any of his personal records.
Mr. Kreep indicated that the investigation is still on-going but that the final report will be provided to
the U.S. attorney general, Eric Holder.
Mr. Holder has refused comment on this matter.
LET OTHER FOLKS KNOW THIS NEWS – THE MEDIA WON’T!
Wait, wait, wait, on Afghanistan. Rush, rush, rush, the stimulus (that won’t be spent until 2012), rush, rush, rush, the healthcare and then wait until 2013 to put it into affect and then try to legalize all illegal aliens to included them and use them to re-elect more liberal-commies. Use liberal judges to destroy the US. Keep the US multilingual to keep the illegals ignorant of what the liberals are up to…… Just the tip of the iceberg. If you don’t think this is horrible there is something very wrong with you.
Note how the healthcare fiasco wouldn’t start until after the next election…..
@NCG598
There is no evidence that oxygen levels decreased in a fashion that would affect life on the planet. The early planet’s atmosphere was reducing; it transitioned to oxidizing and has been that way ever since.
Carbon will naturally be cycled out of the ground, into the atmosphere and back into the ground. By burning fossil fuel we have changed the equation for carbon, which is being released rapidly in the form of CO2. Natural processes that could balance this CO2 release by storing CO2 in the Earth exist. However, these mechanisms are not being accelerated by human intervention and cannot keep up. As a consequence the present episode of warming is unlike any recorded in the history of the planet, and we are major contributors to it. So please do not compare present day warming to those periods in the past, which by the way occurred much more slowly.
I favor the Greening of the Planet. CO2 is very good for plants. We should be emitting more of it.
What to the anti-CO2 folks have against plants?
“Actually, you wingnuts already tried that back in 1861. It was called the Civil War. Look it up.”
Started by Democrats who liked slavery. Look it up.
If Chris Matthews is not a liberal what the hell is that creep? Definitely one of the biggest scum bags on TV. With his tingling up the leg over Maobama. Queef Overbite – Count Down to NO Ratings and Rachel Madcow are neck in neck with him though.
Freda, in a way I agree with you that neither Matthews nor Paglia are liberals, but they would not characterize themselves as conservatives, and they both say or have said they’re democrats.
Liberal writers I do like? Paul Krugman, Gene Lyons, Joe Conason, Bob Somerby, often Kevin Drum, Joan Walsh, James Wolcott (very funny guy), Glenn Greenwald (about the best) are all worth reading.
One liberal I forgot to mention that I wish would go away is Arianna Huffington. She’s a very dishonest opportunist.
I see not one conservative answered, at least not so far. Is it that they’re so tribalistic that they won’t criticize one of their own? Or, that they think every conservative is on the up and up? Or, what?
@ M Simon
Started by Democrats who liked slavery. Look it up.
LOL! Comparing southern Democrats in 1861 to Democrats of today is beyond ludicrous. Their values then align almost entirely with the wingnut values of today (including intense dislike of non-white people, see Obama, Barack).
You are wrong again Bor. Stay down there in mommy’s basement before you hurt yourself.
Stick this where the sun don’t shine you commie psychos. I’m sure you’ll deny away this article from one of your own. Aholes.
What happened to global warming?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8299079.stm
@What happened to global warming?
But, but, but……Al Gore’s slideshow proved global warming!
Damn, the liberal crack babies kill me. OMG, the sky is falling because of us bad, bad humans.
@Rob: no, not 100% false. The Obama Administration has spent our great-great-grandchildren into the poor house.
@ What happened to global warming?
Did you even read that article? What a joke. There is precisely one skeptic cited in that entire piece, Piers Corbyn, who is not a climatologist and has exactly zero peer reviewed climatology publications. He runs a business making inaccurate weather predictions years in advance.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piers_Corbyn
Then there are three legitimate research scientists/institutions cited who actually reaffirm AGW is occurring:
– Dr Piers Forster from Leeds University
– UK Met Office’s Hadley Centre
– Mojib Latif from Kiel University
So who do you believe? The climatologists with PhDs and peer reviewed publications, or the business man with no climatology background, zero publications, and a track record of inaccurate weather predictions?
Now wingnuts, since I’ve thoroughly demolished your lousy excuse for an article claiming that global warming isn’t occurring, why don’t you explain away this research:
http://www.physorg.com/news174234562.html
Of course, you’ll probably ignore it and just call me names instead.
Rob you are the supreme idiot on this site, period.
Hey Robby,
Where country do you live in? Not the US.
Great post, now even the BBC is saying “Global Warming” is a hoax. We’re not going to let you statists destroy our economy and country and liberty.
Nice try Bor. Siting Wikipedia as a source. That site is a communist propaganda site. They are so far left it’s scary. Serious wing nutz. Just like you Rob you jack ass.
@PHD
Me: Of course, you’ll probably ignore it and just call me names instead.
You: Rob you are the supreme idiot on this site, period.
LOL, called it!
Where country do you live in? Not the US.
1) It’s “what” not “where”
2) I live in the United States of America. What country do you live in? Somewhere they don’t teach English?
@ Source
Nice try Bor. Siting Wikipedia as a source. That site is a communist propaganda site.
1) It’s “citing”
2) LOL! You’re seriously calling Wikipedia a “communist propaganda site”? That’s a new one, even for a wingnut!
any conservative on that site has only negative reviews. every commie on that wikibs site has positive reviews. the reviews are controlled by the commies in charge of wiki bs pedia. stuff it rob you a hole.
rob is wrong again.
opec is behind all of this global warming bs to keep us from drilling for our own oil. it is the truth. the liberals are in bed with opec. follow the money.
any conservative on that site has only negative reviews. every commie on that wikibs site has positive reviews. the reviews are controlled by the commies in charge of wiki bs pedia. stuff it rob you a hole.
LOL! “Waaah waaah, I’m a crybaby conservative who hates Wikipedia because all my wingnut buddies have negative reviews! Waaah!” LOL!!
Seriously, did you ever think that maybe the reason that wingnuts have negative reviews is because they write things that are blatantly untrue? Did that ever occur to you?
opec is behind all of this global warming bs to keep us from drilling for our own oil. it is the truth. the liberals are in bed with opec. follow the money.
Hilarious. Stated as fact without a shred of evidence to support it. Typical wingnut.
I agree with Raymond and ron.
I saw that opec connection too on wikipedia. Rob you are the supreme loser.
What do the wingnuts mean, when they speak in their secret language, when they say ALGorythym?
2009.10.06 Liberals vs.. Conservatives
If a conservative doesn’t like guns, he doesn’t buy one.
If a liberal doesn’t like guns, he wants all guns outlawed.
If a conservative is a vegetarian, he doesn’t eat meat.
If a liberal is a vegetarian, he wants all meat products banned for everyone.
If a conservative sees a foreign threat, he thinks about how to defeat his enemy.
A liberal wonders how to surrender gracefully and still look good.
If a conservative is homosexual, he quietly leads his life.
If a liberal is homosexual, he demands legislated respect.
If a black man or Hispanic are conservative, they see themselves as independently successful.
Their liberal counterparts see themselves as victims in need of government protection.
If a conservative is down-and-out, he thinks about how to better his situation.
A liberal wonders who is going to take care of him.
If a conservative doesn’t like a talk show host, he switches channels.
Liberals demand that those they don’t like be shut down.
If a conservative is a non-believer, he doesn’t go to church.
A liberal non-believer wants any mention of God and religion silenced. (Unless it’s a foreign religion, of course!)
If a conservative decides he needs health care, he goes about shopping for it, or may choose a job that provides it.
A liberal demands that the rest of us pay for his.
If a conservative slips and falls in a store, he gets up, laughs, and is embarrassed.
If a liberal slips and falls, he grabs his neck, moans like he’s in labor and then sues.
If a conservative reads this, he’ll forward it so his friends can have a good laugh.
A liberal will delete it because he’s “offended.”
That’s a bunch of bullshit.
@ True Comparison
LOL! Hilarious bunch of copy-pasted chain letter lies. I especially like this one:
If a conservative is homosexual, he quietly leads his life. If a liberal is homosexual, he demands legislated respect.
That’s rich, coming from the party that wants to create a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage.
@ Rob the Dickweed,
Marriage is defined as being between a man and a woman. If you want to bond forever with your boyfriend or pet goat or whatever, you need to dream up a different definition. Marriage already is defined.
True Comparison – Hit the nail on the head. Great post!
Man made global warming is a hoax.
http://parallaxscurioandrelicfirearmsforums.yuku.com/topic/23860/t/1918-Camp-Dodge-Iowa.html
If Obama has nothing to hide, then he would not have a whole team of lawyers keeping his past secret.
@ Yori
Marriage is defined as being between a man and a woman
According to whom? You? Like I care what you think. The Bible? LOL! I don’t believe in the Bible!
@ Randy
I still haven’t seen George W. Bush’s birth certificate. How do I know he wasn’t born in Kenya? I’m dead serious.
@ US Chill Map
You post a weather map and claim that’s proof global warming is hoax? Nice one!
For your next trick, how about refuting each of these 700 peer reviewed publications that provide evidence for global warming?
http://www.ipcc.ch/pdf/technical-papers/ccw/references.pdf
@WestCoastDude Hey, watch it on the creationism bit. Evidence for Evolution is highly lacking and anecdotally (is that a word?) dependent. Ask any honest scientists and they will tell you this.
@ zarkoa
Evidence for Evolution is highly lacking
Completely wrong. Evidence for evolution is overwhelming to the point where it’s virtually impossible that any other theory will supplant it.
Hey Bor,
Where did everything come from? Where did it all evolve from? Rocks, space, sun, stars, bugs, dirt, people, etc. Did they all just evolve out of nothing?????????????????????
Ok, this is worth every MINUTE (ONLY 4) to watch this! THIS HITS IT OUT OF THE BALL PARK ! AND IT ONLY has HAD 24,048 views
It was taken inside Congress with a Congressman. YOU HAVE TO WATCH THIS and YOU MUST PASS IT ON!!!
THIS IS IMPERATIVE EVERYONE SEE THIS!! IT WAS TAKEN OFF THE VIDEO TAPES OF THE FLOOR OF OUR NATIONAL LEGISLATURE.
PLEASE GET THIS OUT TO EVERYONE!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=G44NCvNDLfc
Great post True Comparison and Divorce!
@@ Bor
Where did everything come from? Where did it all evolve from? Rocks, space, sun, stars, bugs, dirt, people, etc. Did they all just evolve out of nothing?????????????????????
Here, read up on some basic science:
http://burro.astr.cwru.edu/stu/advanced/cosmos_history.html
“We can’t expect the American People to jump from Capitalism to Communism,
but we can assist their elected leaders in giving them small doses of Socialism,
until they awaken one day to find that they have Communism.”
Nikita Khrushchev
…it could happen to you too.
The point is science can’t explain everything Bor.
http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2008/05/29/obama-sought-endorsement-of-marxist-third-party-in-1996/
Obama Sought Endorsement of Marxist Third Party in 1996
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@ Eddie
The point is science can’t explain everything Bor.
Correct. However:
1) Science explains an incredible amount.
2) All the alternatives (i.e., religion) have zero supporting evidence. Hence, they explain precisely nothing.
So we have a choice between something that explains an incredible amount (but not everything) and something that explains nothing whatsoever.
I’ll throw my lot in with science, thanks.
@ Marxist
LOL! Is that the best you can do? Posting an article that’s a year and a half old and erroneously calls Obama a “neo-Marxist”? Hilarious!
Actually Bo that 1 1/2 year old post shows a lot about Maobama’s character. He surrounds himself with evil people and you are one of those people.
No one is arguing that science isn’t great. It is, however, wrong a lot and knowns are disproved over and over again. Science can’t explain how there is anything at all.
Maybe Apple should follow Chu’s advice and whitewash the roofs of the buildings and paint the parking lots white.
@ Reggie
He surrounds himself with evil people and you are one of those people.
You call me evil? Based on what? That I believe in science? Seriously, that’s quite a charge.
No one is arguing that science isn’t great. It is, however, wrong a lot and knowns are disproved over and over again.
Yet the great thing about science is that it is self correcting. This is in contrast to religion, which is proven to be wrong over and over again yet never corrects itself.
Religion is a great thing for many, many people. Of course it doesn’t get everything but neither does science by a long shot. Muslim terrorists is a situation where bad people are using religion to trick ignorant people into doing horrible things. Conservatives, talk radio, and Fox News, contrary to the lunatics in charge, are not terrorists. Thankfully they are here to uncover the horrors of the Maobama administration and liberals. You liberals hate being exposed. You’re like cockroaches.
Religion is a great thing for many, many people. Of course it doesn’t get everything but neither does science by a long shot.
Religion has been proven to be so atrociously wrong about so many remedial facts of nature that it’s an embarrassment anyone takes it seriously anymore.
Conservatives, talk radio, and Fox News, contrary to the lunatics in charge, are not terrorists.
1) Nobody is claiming Fox News and conservatives are terrorists. They’re just completely wrong about almost everything.
2) You’re claiming the “lunatics” in charge are terrorists? By which you mean, President Obama and the Democratic senators and representatives? You equate them with muslim terrorists? Are you being serious?
You’re like cockroaches.
Yet more name calling. Why not debate me on the issues instead of resorting to children’s games? Oh that’s right; it’s because your ideology has failed miserably time and time again, so it’s easier just to whine and cry and call people names than to confront the cognitive dissonance.
Rob = Completely wrong about everything he types. Truth schooled you yesterday. Hit by proven facts left and right. He owned you you loser.