RIM plans iPhone lookalike-not-workalikes; Nokia sputters that iPhone ‘not worthy of discussion’

“Apple has launched its new iPhone decisively into BlackBerry’s business market, by improving security, e-mail and allowing third-party software to run on its platform. But this is not a challenge Research in Motion, maker of BlackBerry, is going to take lightly. Its most consumer-friendly phone yet, the Bold, could launch next week, while a multimillion dollar marketing campaign, ‘Life on BlackBerry,’ sees it make a more determined push beyond its corporate core,” Tim Bradshaw and Rob Minto reports for The Financial Times.

MacDailyNews Take: Besides blowing multimillions of dollars on marketing, here’s what RIM will be doing in the near future:
• Pretending that antique technology wrapped in an iPhone-like exterior is innovation
• Talking up physical keyboards over touchscreen keyboards until they finally produce a device with a rudimentary touchscreen keyboard to tout
• Like every other mobile device company and non-iPhone carrier, totally ignore and never mention Multi-Touch™, especially vs. their single-touch-screen offerings
• Trying to keep their central email server online up in Canada
• Watching their market share lead erode dramatically

Bradshaw and Minto continue, “Apple has set a target of selling 10m iPhone 3G devices worldwide, which could be tough in a weakening consumer environment.”

MacDailyNews Take: Apple will easily sell significantly more than a mere 10 million iPhone units in 2008. iCal us. (Note: the actual goal is 10 million iPhones – original model and iPhone 3G – sold in 2008, not “10m iPhone 3G devices” as Bradshaw and Minto incorrectly report.)

Bradshaw and Minto continue, “Richard Windsor, analyst at Nomura, said BlackBerry’s attempt to crack the consumer market has ‘not been particularly competitive… The Apple experience on their device is second to none. Rim has a lot of work to do to catch up’ in scaling up its manufacturing and distribution capability as well as design, he added.”

Bradshaw and Minto report, “Nokia’s senior vice-president of devices, Søren Petersen, has been scathing about BlackBerry’s consumer push. ‘Selling to women is about more than making it pink,’ he told the FT in June, referring to a colourful edition of the BlackBerry Pearl, its device that’s most like a regular phone. But he also dismissed the iPhone’s security and business features as ‘not worthy of discussion.'”

“Andrew Brown, analyst at Strategy Analytics, thinks Nokia has failed to capitalise. ‘Apple is in a good position to slaughter the lot of them because they’ve kept it pretty simple and accessible,'” Bradshaw and Minto report. “Steve Jobs, Apple chief executive, has claimed Apple made $30m (£15m) from 60m downloads in the first month that the iPhone was available.”

More in the full article here.

As usual, Nokia sounds bitter, defensive, and scared, as well they should be. And, RIM simply does not have the chops to compete effectively with Apple, so they will try to make their inferior hardware look like iPhones, couple it with their totally outclassed software, and hope to market their way to an ignorant, nonsustaining user base. Note to RIM et al.: Those who are unable to distinguish between a real iPhone and a pretend one are much more likely to have far less disposable income than those who can.

58 Comments

  1. It’s so tiring reading over and over about the iphone and how it’s going to just take over everything in the mobile landscape. At the moment the 3G is having all kinds of issues, MobileMe is up and down (definately NOT like exchange) and they can’t seem to make enough devices so I don’t call that a fantastic business plan.

    You can bet while Bold and other upcoming devices won’t perhaps have the Cool / Sexy factor iphone has earned the device will be rock solid. Apple would jump at the chance to have anything like the NOC (which MobileMe basically is). Apple is going to find offering a supporting a mobile platform is a heck of alot different then selling ipods and music via Itunes. There are things just outside their control (carrier, signal etc) so while their other products can be totally controlled the Iphone has to become more open to truely explode. I think people will quickly tire of the locked down attitude and jailbreak is not the answer for the majority of users.

    No doubt the iphone brings a whole new factor to mobility and the possibilities are exciting but Apple has enough things to work on and so does RIM with new devices, new BES etc.

    The first mobile company that can take mobility and make it dirt cheap (read free to no cost for the device) and pay as you go options for data will be the big winner .. and who has that coming? Blackberry. People like options and Blackberry is going to have 3 price points, along with multiple carrier options so it’s offered in more places = more revenue.

    What and note whatever you want MDN.

  2. When you say “iPhone is still a toy”, your argument immediately loses credibility as a serious one. Technically, iPhone CAN be a toy (if one downloads a game from an AppStore), but all the reviewers, far too numerous to mention, have agreed that it is now a serious business tool. The new software provides practically everything you can functionally get using a Treo (or WinMobile) and advantages (mostly on paper, in the form of bullet points) that RIM has in terms of some security features, etc., are of little consequence for vast majority of corporate buyers.

    While MobileMe was clearly a mess (and some of it is still being mopped up), it is irrelevant to the iPhone’s enterprise functionality (no enterprise would ever need or want to use MobileMe).

    Single biggest advantage over BlackBerry is the lack of a single point of failure (“the server in Canada”). IPhone will be as (un)reliable as is your Exchange, IMAP or POP3 mail server.

    There will always be some people who will be (very subjectively) put off by iPhone’s radically different (multi)touch user interface, and they will be perfect customers for RIM (or WinMobile). As we all know, once we go beyond the objective, measurable usability and into the territory of “cool” or “sleek”, personal tastes begin to play an important part. Clearly, though, Apple has been consistently able to hit the mark when it comes to the emotional, subconscious response to industrial design. Legendary attention to detail shows everywhere, from hardware, to UI. Professional reviewers have testified so much.

    I have no doubt that, with the remaining countries coming online in a few weeks, Apple will have no problem selling 10 million new 3G phones, let alone 10 million total for 2008.

  3. MobileAdmin,

    I wouldn’t be so sure that the Bold is going to be “rock solid.”. RIM is finally venturing into territory they haven’t been in before. That’s why the Bold was suffering from power management issues and might still have a few kinks. The Thunder is even less of a sure bet.

    It’s real easy to be “rock solid” when all you do is regurgitate the same junk over and over year after year with some new icons here and a white trackball there. I mean the Bold (their first 3GSM device mind you) has been in development for years and it’s not even all that great.

    Those days are over for RIM and now we’ll see how they do when they’re actually forced to innovate with Apple breathing down the back of their necks.

  4. @Towertone: I can not believe you made me waste 42 seconds of my life. That interface is just totally horrible. Why does the guy have to touch it several times before it works?

  5. Personally, I’m waiting for someone to make an iPhone workalike that looks NOTHING like an iPhone. If the functionality is great, but the ugly design makes children cry, I’ll buy one.

    (I’m narcissistic like that… even though I don’t actually know what narcissistic means.)

  6. RIM wouldnt be getting shots here if they had not copied the iphone appearance. That smacks of fear and bandwagon jumping, which are not attractive traits.

    RIM have done a good job, but finally there is a challenger.
    Now its up to RIM to solidify their position or chase Apple.
    We will see what happens.

    However, ALL the other phone companies that have been selling TOTAL CRAP for the last 10 years deserve to get eaten.

    @ Roger
    Good idea of a simple iPod phone, no wifi, etc. That would destroy the Nokias et al, because getting your phone to play music then take a call, then back to the music seamlessly and load all your music seamlessly, just does NOT happen with the trash they put out.

  7. @ itouchmyself

    We have to wait DECADES for your prediction?

    Live today buddy, next frickin’ decade is a long way off…..and by then M$ may be the M$ of the 90’s.
    Or something.

  8. @Mail Phones Need Real Keyboards

    Your assertion is so not true. I type extremely fast onthe iPhone, as fast if not faster than I ever did on the Blackberry.

    I cannot (ironically) touch-type on the iPhone, I have to keep my eyes on the keyboard, but there is no loss of speed. I typically send very large e-mail messages on the iPhone.

    The trick to the iPhone keyboard is just accepting that far more often than not it will correct your errors accurately, and not stopping to correct your mistakes.

  9. Perhaps RIM and NOK need not be too concerned about the 15m iPhones sold in 2008…

    But they NEED TO PANIC about the 50m that will sell in 2009…

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  10. “I still don’t understand the animosity towards RIM.”

    If it exists, the reason for it is the dismissive nature of RIM’s response to Jobs’ original iPhone announcement and subsequently.

    We are delighting in the fact that Apple had it right and RIM have their trousers/pants around their ankles.

    It’s funny if you’re on the right side and RIM are ugy enough to take a bit of flack.

    And Tommy Boy… you are surely not still banging on about 10m in 2008 or by end of 2008 are you? This has been done to death a thousand times and no matter what you think the vast majority are happy it is 10m IN 2008. Please, no more………

  11. Nokia don’t care because they sell about 10 times as many smartphones as Apple do a quarter, including the N-series which crushed the iPhone in terms of sales volumes in the UK, Germany and France.

    Nokia don’t have a big presence in the US but since they have about 50% of the global smartphone market and over 40% of all mobile phone sales worldwide they’re not really bothered with minor players like Apple.

    Reality hurts, eh?

  12. “I still don’t understand the animosity towards RIM.”

    From MDN? Well the clue to that one is another comment about where RIM is based…in Waterloo. MDN staff have probably been combing the British phone books, maps and google earth to find out where it is and have been totally unable to locate it.

    Maybe someone should tell them it is down the road from London and heck you can drive there from Paris without taking a tunnel or a boat. That would make more sense from a Napoleonic perspective.

    By the way Sir Gill, thanks for the reply the other day, I responded with great appreciation just in case you missed it. Nice seeing you here.

  13. “One advantage RIM has: You’ll probably be able to pick up a BlackBerry Bold without standing in line or placing an order with delivery sometime in the future. C’mon, Apple … get enough of these units out there for everyone who wants one.”

    Apple NEVER has enough inventory to meet demand. It makes the devices exclusive for the first couple of weeks (months?) though, adding to the hype.

  14. So what, the iPhone has some issues.
    So do all the others.
    The major difference is – Apple is at the beginning of their roadmap and the others have had to change direction mainly because of the iPhone.
    If the way forward was truly the RIM, NOK, or Palm model etc….there would be no iPhone.
    Apple has shown over the “Jobs management years” that they only go into markets where innovation is needed and they can offer up that innovation.
    The iphone is a COMPUTER…
    and because of Apple…
    COMPUTERS are now MOBILE.
    Being a mobile phone is not what the iPhone is about and eventually the platform will compare to other mobile devices the way The Macintosh platform compares to other computers.

  15. “The trick to the iPhone keyboard is just accepting that far more often than not it will correct your errors accurately, and not stopping to correct your mistakes.”

    That feature’s just irritating and slows you down more. I don’t type something right to have Apple think I meant something else and have to tell the phone not to substitute it, or go back and correct it if I hit space before it pops up.

    It wouldn’t be so bad if it didn’t like replacing correctly spelled words with others it thinks you’d like better.

    it also likes replacing words with one character wrong that you could go back and correct later with something totally different requiring a bigger edit to fix.

    it reminds my of Rim’s retarded 2 letters to a key predictive system (In that it’s retarded and slows you down using the phone as an email device).

    I hear you can turn it off by putting the keyboard in Korean mode, might have to try that. Perhaps 2.02 software could include a “Disable auto-correct” switch.

  16. In RIM’s defense, they do make very sturdy, solid hardware. I had a BB Curve before switching to the iPhone 3G and can say that the BB was a workhorse. Does the curve look as good as the iPhone? NO…but it was designed to be a great tool for emailing on the go with great battery life..way better than the iphone.

    Apple owns in product/software design and it is a device designed to appeal to everyone..to provide a more complete mobile experience. This is the reason Apple is winning everyone over to the iPhone.

    RIM has a lot of work to do to catch up in the consumer sector but I have to say, the Bold is a good step in the right direction! I have tested the unit and have to say my experience with it has been good. The UI has greatly improved but still not on par with the iPhone.

    With that said, will I ditch the iPhone 3G for the Bold? Nah..the iPhone is superior to the Bold. Would I ever switch back to the RIM? I may if RIM can produce a unit that I feel is better than the iPhone.

    The greatest thing that comes out of all this is the fact that Nokia, RIM, Samsung and everyone else is striving to innovate to produce better products for us all ” width=”19″ height=”19″ alt=”smile” style=”border:0;” />

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