“Microsoft Chairman Bill Gates’ words are being parsed for hidden meanings. According to my News.com colleague Ina Fried, Gates said this week during a speech before the Inter-American Development Bank: ‘Sometime in the next year or so we will have a new (Windows) version,’ Mary Jo Foley blogs for ZDNet.
“Microsoft officials are insisting nothing has changed: Windows 7 is due out roughly three years after Windows Vista’s consumer launch (which was January 2007), meaning in early 2010,” Foley reports.
MacDailyNews Take: So, Gates said “2009” last week, but now it’s already slipped to “2010.” Please see related article: Microsoft figurehead Bill Gates sees next version of Windows ‘sometime in the next year or so’ – April 04, 2008
In an earlier report from last July, Foley explained, “Microsoft officials told MGX attendees that the company is currently internally planning Windows Seven. So far, the company has determined Windows Seven will come in both 32- and 64-bit flavors.”
MacDailyNews Take: It’s amazing (and sad) that Microsoft still won’t be able to figure out how to do 64-bit right by 2011. Please see related articles:
• Apple does 64-bit right, Microsoft… not so much – August 03, 2007
• Apple’s Mac OS X Leopard is 64-bit done right, unlike Microsoft’s Windows Vista kludge – August 14, 2006
Also, from that earler report, Foley continues, “Microsoft officials confirmed the veracity of this Windows Seven information… Short answer: Yes, it is going to take us at least three years to release Windows Seven. Longer if it’s buggy and doesn’t hit the ‘quality bar.'”
It’s a good thing for Microsoft that Windows has slipped, according to Foley, “If Windows 7 were to hit in mid-2009, a number of users (especially corporate ones) would likely just wait for the next Windows release, hoping that the driver and application incompatibilities that plagued Vista might get ironed out and that changes that might introduce new problems would be kept to a minimum.”
Full article here.
[Thanks to MacDailyNews Reader “Beverly M” for the heads up.]
MacDailyNews Take: When you drop the “quality bar” on the floor, as Microsoft does, how difficult is it to hit, much less clear? Maybe that’s the problem. Perhaps Microsoft’s spaghetti coders are slipping and sliding (like Windows release dates) on those “quality bars” rolling around, then crashing over backwards and cracking their heads on the floor?
[UPDATE: 1:10pm EDT: Updated article with excerpts from Foley’s April 4, 2008 posting and fixed headline to reflect 2010 is the current target year for “Windows 7.”]
@Crash
Arrogance is better that stupidity. Supporting a guilty company of monopolizing a market. Supporting a company that pays the labels for every Zune sold. Supporting a company that buys up companies to remove them from the market and eliminate the competition. Support a company for stealing code from Apple. Why don’t you think about that. Like I said post all you want. You look like a total fool, laughable and ludicrous. All three at the same time. Congratulations. LOL
@Jubei
“Arrogance is better that stupidity. Supporting a guilty company of monopolizing a market. Supporting a company that pays the labels for every Zune sold. Supporting a company that buys up companies to remove them from the market and eliminate the competition. Support a company for stealing code from Apple”
Man you are too easy, This is exactly a description many give of Apple. And that first statement really goes to the core of everything Apple. Im better, stronger faster. Get a life. There is always something better. Thats why I left Apple. Few folks will stand up and say what if. No one wants to go against the leader, Steve Jobs is a God among men. Laughable and exactly the type of thinking that kills companies. He will build great looking products but do not match to the mainstream buyer wallets or needs. Now go to der Fuerher and he will make things all better for you.
@Crash
Ahahaha.. What a loser. Giving you straight, verified, indisputable facts and you revert to trying to redirect the truth. Speaking about easy, your defense of that platform, is an easy win. In fact it takes very little effort at all. Remember, this is you:
Supporting a guilty company of monopolizing a market. Supporting a company that pays the labels for every Zune sold. Supporting a company that buys up companies to remove them from the market and eliminate the competition. Support a company for stealing code from Apple. Why don’t you think about that. Like I said post all you want. You look like a total fool, laughable and ludicrous. All three at the same time. Congratulations. LOL
Crash v Jubel: FOOD FIGHT!
This is what we call ‘Computer Warz’. Crash is typical in that he is not willing to read the ammo he uses to clobber his point. This is what we call ‘troll’ behavior on the battlefield. Some ignorant people call this a ‘religious’ war. It never was. It is a FACT war, and Windows PC users are the ones consistently being clobbered. They know it. So they respond with FUD, myths and other disinformation. It doesn’t require an outspoken Mac fanatic to prove what OS is superior. All the ‘opinion’ is in the end totally pointless. What wins the day is INFORMATION, here in our information age.
Case in point: Crash made the following blunder: “oh and one for you that believe the falacy that is Mac security….
http://www.news.com/8301-13579_3-9914753-37.html
Man keep your priority straight. lol”
I encourage everyone to read the article! It correctly points out the current state of security on ALL computer platforms.
(1) Software developers are mere humans performing a task that is well beyond mere human comprehension. The result is bugs and security flaws, consistently, in everything, be it OS or app.
(2) The Mac OS is NOT a main source of insecurity concern. One thing that IS of concern is the insecurity of the APPLICATIONS running on the OS. Consider Crash’s point to be totally blown out of the water in this respect. Shame on him.
Example: Despite the very best intentions of CERN and the creators of ARPANET, the standards and protocols upon which the Internet depends for security have generally turned out to be INSECURE. Even Java, which has had the biggest hype factor of them all for ‘security’, has been a bust.
(3) The single most dangerous security vulnerability of all time is ‘WETWARE VULNERABILTY’. The crack of the MacBook Air last month is a perfect example. As per usual, at the ‘crack a Mac’ sort of tournaments, crackers never succeed when merely Mac OS X is the target. Instead they all have required the assistance of the wetware user at the computer to either deliberately allow the cracker into the system, or to make a blunder, or to fall for a trick that exploits an APPLICATION running in the OS. In the case of the MacBook Air it was Safari that failed and allowed the crack. Similar security flaws have been found in QuickTime (A LOT!), Adobe Reader and Flash among others.
Result: Despite all the troll ranting, Mac OS X has been doing as well as one would expect of a certified UNIX operating system. In other words, extremely well. And as I pointed out above, you don’t have to be some ‘fanbois’ to have ‘religious’ faith to believe this is the case. You just have to do your homework and READ THE FACTS. You don’t have to be an ‘apologist’ to ‘defend’ the Mac.
I very much like the last couple paragraphs of the article Crash fumblingly tripped over:
“… quick, diligent patching and a wider embrace of the security community will more than do its part in keeping the Mac secure.”
BRAVO! Apple regularly need a good kick in the backside to wake up to what’s important IRL. The past two and a half + years of anti-Mac security FUD have been absolutely brilliant for inspiring Apple to get on top of Mac security issues. Before the FUD-fest began I would most certainly describe Apple as having been lazy about security.
“Education and ‘safe surfing’ practices are as important to this era of security as anything having to do with counting flaws or patching practices. Maybe that’s the third rail of technology writing: it’s not always the mean evil corporation’s fault; sometimes, it’s yours.”
*DING*
More FACTS for those who enjoy my blethering:
http://mac-security.blogspot.com
http://macsmarticles.blogspot.com
oh boy we got another one. man the fishing is good.
1:So Macs remain a very safe computing option. This does not mean that Mac OS X is secure, however. It’s software, written by humans, and it contains flaws. Those flaws are theoretically exploitable by criminals, but they haven’t been, mainly because you don’t need an MBA to do a cost-benefit analysis.Apple hasn’t had its “come to Jesus” moment yet with security, the way Microsoft did in the early part of this decade. Millions of Windows users demanded that Microsoft fix the leaky boats that were Windows XP and Internet Explorer, and to Microsoft’s credit, it stopped almost everything it was working on and set about that task
That hasn’t happened to Apple. Even though Apple’s market share continues to grow quarter by quarter, the company’s products account for just 5.8 percent of the total U.S. market for PCs, according to IDC.( Might as well post the context. Not just the sound bites you Appl fanbois like.)
2: Market share equals money” to the hacker criminals of the world, according to Charlie Miller, a researcher at Independent Security Evaluators. Miller made headlines last month by taking control of a MacBook Air as part of the CanSecWest conference’s “Pwn to Own” contest. He used a previously unadvertised flaw in Apple’s Safari browser to gain control of a system that was directed to a malicious Web site, earning himself and his team $10,000 and a new MacBook Air.
“Even if Apple moved to 10 percent market share, why spend the time on the 10 percent when you can just nail 90 percent with one bug?” Miller points out. It’s far easier, and far more lucrative, for those shadowy figures in the hacking business to spend their time going after the other 90-plus percent of computers in the world than it is to try to exploit flaws in the Mac–even if there’s a shiny new computer involved.
And as always you just dont get it. My point being look to fix your own house, soon there might be a need to remember that Window users are already battle bloodied. Your OS is not invincible. It has alot of holes.
Now look at that article again fully and objectivley.
I wonder if I can get this thread to four pages. Wish me luck.
LOL
Troll Crash spews: “oh boy we got another one. man the fishing is good.”
You let the mask slip. Oh boy, we got another one:
A T R O L L with the usual sadomasochistic agenda.
>>yawn<<
Need I point out folks that Crash not only didn’t read the article, he ironically referenced. He also did not read my reply. Compare and contrast kids. His response is utter nonsense taken in the context of my post.
Conclusion: This troll is 100% ignorable. His comments demonstrate a lack of a grasp on reality and a complete disrespect of informed opinions that don’t match his uninformed opinion.
Setting aside his slam and my slam back:
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As I previously noted, the more actual information, actual FACTS you learn, the more you comprehend why Mac OS X is innately far more secure that Windows has ever been. And if you read the stuff I have posted in my Mac blogs, previously linked, you’ll know (unlike Crash who would never bothers to read even his own references) that I am make it clear when Apple blunders and when they get it right. Clearly the ‘security by obscurity’ myth is total baloney, a convenient LIE. And clearly Mac OS X is NOT perfectly secure. No one I know of ever said it was. Only trolls think otherwise, another convenient LIE. Consider me bored.
From Shavlik Technologies
http://www.shavlik.com/
April 9, 2008 Microsoft Patch Day Information
Microsoft Releases Eight New Security Bulletins
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Microsoft released 8 new security bulletins in April. Of the 8 bulletins, 5 are rated Critical on Microsoft’s severity rating system.
The following patches have been added to the Shavlik XML file:
Critical
MS08-018
Vulnerability in Microsoft Project Could Cause Remote Code Execution (950183)
MS08-021
Vulnerabilities in GDI Could Allow Remote Code Execution (948590)
MS08-022
Vulnerability in VBScript and JScript Scripting Engines Could Allow Remote Code Execution (944338)
MS08-023
Security Update of ActiveX Kill Bit (948881)
MS08-024
Cumulative Security Update for Internet Explorer (947864)
Important
MS08-019
Vulnerabilities in Microsoft Visio Could Allow Remote Code Execution (949032)
MS08-020
Vulnerabilities in DNS Client Could Allow Spoofing (94553)
MS08-025
Vulnerabilities in Windows Kernel Could Allow Elevation of Privilege (941693)
Additional information about these new security bulletins can be found on Microsoft’s TechNet Web site.
Visit the Shavlik Web site for additional information about the potential impact of these bulletins from Shavlik’s CTO Eric Schultze.
It’s pretty obvious what M$ need to do to keep in the game long-term. It’s about time they ditched their current bloated code base and developed a completely new light weight, scalable kernel.
The biggest flaw with Vista is that it appears to have been built around a kernel with a might is right philosophy. I have a Vaio TZ in addition to my MBP and Vista just isn’t designed for anything other than absolutely huge hardware specifications. M$ just don’t seem to have considered scalable performance. We only need to note the horrific performance of Outlook 2007 to see that M$ just don’t seem to consider an effective performance evaluation as part of their development process.
Even allowing for the rapid progress of CPU architecture there will always be a performance gap between the bottom and top end of the market. It’s almost as if Vista was developed for PC architecture several years down the line or could it be that adding generation after generation of code they’ve ended up with a behemouth of an OS. We only need to look at how well OSX and Linux scales.
Unfortunately what we will get with Windows 7 is a rehashed Vista core (which in turn was a redeveloped Win 2003 core). What M$ should do is start again from scratch and offer backward compatibility via virtualisation.
I can see it now: “2010 – Windows 7, 1GB+ OS, requiring 4GB or RAM just to run, but it is so much better than OS 10.5!” Oops that was s/w back in 2008, darn MSFT still behind with a bigger White Elephant.
This article amuses me for a simple reason, it is confirming my strong beliefs that the entire mac community is founded on one bearing principle, your all so technically illiterate it nears the point of retardation. Well done.
While your reading this article do not forget to quote your founders expert opinion and coincidentally sales pitch:
“its easy, anyone can use a mac”
Well he was right on that at least.
@ Neil
At least Mac users don’t get “your” and “you’re” confused.
“Nell” sez: “This article amuses me for a simple reason, it is confirming my strong beliefs that the entire mac community is founded on one bearing principle, your all so technically illiterate it nears the point of retardation. Well done.”
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Only a tard troll would say something so ignorant. No Nell, a hardy ‘well done’ to you. How embarrassing. PLEASE don’t use a Mac. I hate it when total morons call me up for technical help. </slam>
Gotta hand it to those trolls. A laugh riot.
Microsoft Company Song, aka Ballmer’s Tune:
http://sounds.wavcentral.com/televis/renstimp/bemonkey.mp3
Windows shutdown sound:
http://members.tripod.com/~Joy111970/adream.wav
For god sake derek try not to write such long posts.
btw from here it looks like you’re the one that got slammed. Go join the PS3 fanboys, you’ll fit in better with the 12 year olds.