Rush Limbaugh still waiting for Steve Jobs

Rush Limbaugh is still waiting for Apple CEO Steve Jobs to help him out with a couple of issues he’s having with his many Apple Macs. In the meantime, Rush has identified his two issues:

Partial transcript from The Rush Limbaugh Show today:

Did Steve Jobs call, Snerdley? Well, I didn’t expect Jobs to call. I thought maybe somebody from his office would. Look, I own a lot of Macs. I love them. I knew this was going to happen to you. The blogs… There’s all kinds of Apple-Mac blogs, and they hate the fact that I’m a Mac guy. They do. They despise it, because Macs are associated with the left. So whenever I talk about my Macs, you can go to some of these blogs and they’re gnashing their teeth and banging the keyboards, and when I yesterday expressed that I was having just a couple problems with 10.5.2, the new OS update, one guy wrote in a blog, “May you see the spinning beach ball of death for the rest of your life!” Now, the spinning beach ball in a Mac is when the processor gets clogged and slowed down and your task is not completed. This guy wished for a spinning beach ball for eternity for me. He hoped that my Mac would freeze. Ha! Well, I haven’t checked them all, but I figure that somebody will call. I own enough these things. Our office here is equipped with them. Sigh… I know if I call I won’t get through, because it just won’t happen.

Anyway, I just checked a Mac website, MacDailyNews.com, and they’ve got the transcript from my program yesterday posted with some comments. Some of them were okay. Some of the other comments, “I hope he never gets the problem fixed.” But one of the guys says — I didn’t identify the two problems — “Why don’t you identify the problems? Maybe we could do a work-around. Maybe we could help you, Rush, why don’t you tell us what the problem is?” “I think Rush is smart enough to fix his own problems.” I’ll tell you what the problems are. But it’s going to be Greek to those of you who don’t use Macs and I don’t want to spend a whole lot of time with this. But here we go. Two things. Back to my Mac, screen sharing, doesn’t work. It’s intermittent on occasion. Now, I got six computers on the network, maybe it’s only meant to go back and forth one computer to the next. And the second thing, and this is the biggie, because I have found a work-around to screen sharing back to my Mac not working, direct access to my IP address I can do it without Back to My Mac, but they’ve got this great new backup program called Time Machine.

I primarily live in my mail application. I use it for my word processing. The only time I open word processing is when somebody sends me something in a Word document or whatever. I don’t use the phone because of my hearing. E-mail is everything, and Time Machine will not restore e-mail mailboxes. Restores everything else but that, and ought to restore either a single message or a whole mailbox, and it won’t. On one machine, this one here in New York, I have found a way to restore a single message or a multiple list of messages from wherever the Time Machine archive is, but on none of my other five machines does that work. They’re identical. So, Mr. Jobs, there’s got to be somebody who can — this is major. I’m not calling it a bug. They just left it out of the operating system. To not back up — and, by the way, when you open Time Machine in your mail program, it says, “Click restore” to back up your in-box or to back up the message you had selected. So it was supposed to, it just doesn’t do it. And there’s a whole thread at the Apple site of people having the same problem. But posting the problem on the website is not going to solve anything. It’s like filing a bug report, goes out to the ether, nobody ever sees it, you never hear.

Full article here.

MacDailyNews Note: So, Rush’s problems are: Back to My Mac (can connect using direct IP sharing but not using Back to My Mac) and Time Machine (cannot restore mailboxes). Apple, the spinning beach ball is in your court.

In the meantime, here’s what we’ve found so far:

According to Apple’s Mail 3.0 Help: Recovering mailboxes and their content:

If you set up Time Machine to back up files on your computer, your mailboxes and the messages, notes, and to-do items they contain have been backed up regularly, based on the schedule you set for Time Machine. You can use Time Machine to quickly recover previous versions of your mailboxes and their content.

To recover information using Time Machine:
1. Make sure Mail is the current application.
2. Click the Time Machine icon in the Dock.

Time Machine displays available backups. Use Time Machine to locate the information you want to recover.

Restoring files backed up with Time Machine
Time Machine backs up all mailboxes and their contents. When you use Time Machine to browse backups, you can preview individual items in the Notes and Drafts mailboxes, but not in other mailboxes, before restoring the mailboxes. To-do items are backed up as part of iCal; you must use Time Machine with iCal to restore them.

If you have archived mailboxes, you can import the archive file to restore previous versions.

For the other issue, this might be a helpful starting point: Using Back to My Mac in Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard; Requirements to use Back to My Mac; Setting up your computers for Back to My Mac.

And, for the record, we don’t hate the fact that Rush Limbaugh is a Mac guy (although some of our readers certainly do seem to have an issue with Rush’s choice of platforms).

220 Comments

  1. REgarding the email back up problem…a thought….
    Could it be that Rush is using Netscape or Hotmail or Googlemail or…? Even though the email appears on one´s computer, it is located on the Netscape or Hotmail or whatever server – not stored on one´s computer.

    (My father had a similar thought. He lost his AOL emails, he thought, and figured they were all sitting in a file somewhere in his computer.)

    Therefore, Time Machine cannot back up something that is not on one´s computer – such as Google or AOL e-mails.

  2. guys,

    This is not about politics, Rush is asking fair and legitimate questions about some issues with his Macs. Part of the reason I have been a mac user for so long is because the other mac users historically have been helpful to each other, regardless of left/right/black/white/etc…

    I have relied on the user community in the past for issues I have had, and will try to help if I can those that need it.

    The biggest unknown with the back to mac issue is more info regarding the network they are attached to, if it is a corporate network there might be a filewall on the server rack blocking some ports needed for bac to mac. We may not be able to have answers to those questions since it may be a corporate network, but it is a good place to start.

    Rush, if you are reading this, I may not agree with your politics, but we have free speech in this country, and since your questions are legitimate, honest, and only about apple products, you deserve an answer, or assistance. There are people here that may be able to help, that is what made Apple a great company, not just the hardware, but the people that use it.

    I sincerely hope your issues get resolved, this about the hardware, and I for one am looking at just that, nothing more….

  3. Although I disagree with almost everything he says, Mr Limbaugh has the right to his opinions, and the right to broadcast those opinions. What irks me is how he occasionally makes things up when he doesn’t have any facts to support an argument. I admit I’ll sometimes assume things in conversation, and might offer conjecture in an offhand way while engaging in political discussion, but I’m not misinforming millions of people when I do. And his pejorative use of the word liberal is asinine, but he’s hardly alone there. I don’t expect him to moderate his viewpoint – I actually find it enlightening to hear what those on the right are thinking, when they decide to use their brain instead of their gut feelings.

  4. “REgarding the email back up problem…a thought….
    Could it be that Rush is using Netscape or Hotmail or Googlemail or…?”

    or could it be that he is really the moron many of us keep saying he is and he just can’t read RTFM?

    yeah, pretty much.

    angela: how is he a bigot?

    “i love the women’s movement, especially when i can watch it wiggle from behind.” -Rush

    any other questions you fascist bigot defending jerk?

  5. I am not a liberal (or “progressive” if you prefer), but Rush dserves the political hate because, frankly, he wants it, that’s what has made him rich.

    But if you want APPLE to do well… you want him to get his problems fixed and be happy. He’s got a huge audience, and he’s pretty much a mac fanboy.

    Though the 10.5.2 release seems to show–to many–that Apple does NOT ignore all those bug reports. They just take time and have to be prioritized.

    btw, politically, if you are a Hillary fan, you’ve got to know that Rush is secretly dying to see her elected. That’s simple showmanship and business. (I firmly believe in keeping politics off of non-political boards.)

  6. Fascism– is a radical authoritarian political philosophy that combines elements of corporatism, totalitarianism, extreme nationalism, militarism, anti-communism and anti-liberalism. – Benito Mussolini

    Now you too can know what fascism is. Hmm? Anti-liberalism. That must mean Republicans that don’t like or hate Liberals are fascists – Mussolini should know.

  7. September 28, 2003: “I think what we’ve had here is a little social concern in the NFL. The media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well. There is a little hope invested in McNabb, and he got a lot of credit for the performance of this team that he didn’t deserve.” —Rush Limbaugh, suggesting on ESPN’s Sunday NFL Countdown that Philadelphia Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb got more credit than he deserved. BACKTRACK: “My comments this past Sunday were directed at the media and were not racially motivated.” SUCCESS? Of course. Yes, he was forced to quit the ESPN gig, but otherwise he just kept on being Rush Limbaugh.

  8. I’m sure a lot of conservatives use Macs. I think it’s great that Rush Limbaugh reads MDN.

    > On one machine…, I have found a way to restore a single message or a multiple list of messages from wherever the Time Machine archive is, but on none of my other five machines does that work. They’re identical.

    Well, I don’t know what the problem is, but if it works on one of them (and the Macs are identical), Rush should disk image or clone the one that works onto a bootable external drive, and duplicate that disk on the other Macs. He’s sounds like a competent and knowledgeable Mac user, so I’m sure he’s tried the more typical solutions.

  9. @ For Angela

    Lets put in the definition in wikipedia.

    Fascism is an authoritarian political ideology (generally tied to a mass movement) that considers the individual subordinate to the interests of the state, party or society as a whole. Fascists seek to forge a type of national unity, usually based on (but not limited to) ethnic, cultural, racial, religious attributes. Various scholars attribute different characteristics to fascism, but the following elements are usually seen as its integral parts: nationalism, statism, militarism, totalitarianism, anti-communism, corporatism, populism, collectivism, autocracy and opposition to political and economic liberalism.

    Just because you are for the military, have pride for your country, and support capitalism does NOT make you a fascist. That is asinine. Please tell me how Rush is a Fascist. He has a different opinion than you, get over it.

  10. When I worked in a certain store I tried to help the customers the best I could.

    Sometimes it was easier said than done. With very difficult customers they would often say something like, “I know Steve Jobs!!! I’ll call him and you’ll be in trouble!!” or some such crap.

    I’d usually tell those snotty types when they get Steve on the phone to tell him I said hello.

    I like Rush and respect him, but his rants do get out of hand.

    He needs to call a professional Mac support specialist (like myself) to come over and have a look see and let them take care of the problem.

  11. I dont think Macs are associated with then ‘left’ as much as people just don’t like Macs being associated with someone as polarizing as Limbaugh. I don’t mind that he likes Macs or he endorses Macs. It’s about one of the sanest things he says.

    I just can’t stand that he is a blatant opportunist, who doesn’t practice what he preaches, is an elitist asshole and essentially whips people into an unnecessary frenzy in order to inflate ratings for his show (read: make money) at the expense of rational dialogue.

  12. @Welcome to the mainstream Angela

    ““Feminism was established to allow unattractive women easier access to the mainstream.”
    Rush Limbaugh”

    If you’re really that stupid to believe that HE believes that, then there is no helping you. Rush gets a kick out of idiots like you who take him seriously. You obviously don’t listen to the show so really you don’t know what you are talking about.

  13. “I just can’t stand that he is a blatant opportunist, who doesn’t practice what he preaches, is an elitist asshole and essentially whips people into an unnecessary frenzy in order to inflate ratings for his show (read: make money) at the expense of rational dialogue.”

    Are you kidding me? Take a look at what 80 percent of the readers on the blog before this said about Rush using Mac.

  14. I think Rush needs to rethink how he is doing his stuff. Back to My Mac and Time Machine might not be the way to go. And with Mail?

    I don’t think Time Machine was designed to be able to go on a different Mac and be able to get old files off it. Maybe if he dedicated ONE machine to be the central repository of his stuff, but wouldn’t opening something on a remote mac Mail and changing it, it wouldn’t be reflected in the remote Machines Time Machine, but rather, the one he’s currently using?

    I think there has to be something to allow him to effectively use his setups better. I can only imagine the version control issues he might have with documents…..

  15. I don’t have a problem with Rush’s conservatism, and he’s too reliant on freedom of speech to be a real fascist. However, he is a supreme hypocrite. And just for you, sweet, sweet Angela, I’m going to back that up by reminding everyone that before he was caught illegally obtaining prescription drugs, Rush Limbaugh said on his show that anyone caught violating the drug laws ought to accused, convicted and sent to prison. That is hypocrisy pure and simple – sorry to break the news to you, Angela dear.

  16. So you’re saying you don’t like looking at women from behind? Do I understand you correctly?

    You know, one thing Rush has always said is that one of the left’s biggest problems is that they have absolutely zero sense of humor. If these posts don’t demonstrate that in SPADES…

  17. “Just because you are for the military, have pride for your country, and support capitalism does NOT make you a fascist. “

    No, it doesn’t, but when the LEADERS take it to an extreme level, then yes, it is.

    Just for the record, I lean left politically, but I believe in a strong military, just not the irresponsible way it has be used, also capitalism, but not at the expense of morality and principles, and also pride for your country, so long is it doesn’t blind you to the point of lacking objectivity. So does that make me a retard?

  18. “And just for you, sweet, sweet Angela, I’m going to back that up by reminding everyone that before he was caught illegally obtaining prescription drugs, Rush Limbaugh said on his show that anyone caught violating the drug laws ought to accused, convicted and sent to prison. That is hypocrisy pure and simple – sorry to break the news to you, Angela dear.”

    I 100% agree with you montex. That was hypocritical. I have no problem agreeing with leftist when they are right. However I should point out that there is unbelievable hypocrisy in the left as well.

  19. Your Mussolini quote is true – however, Benito ran a National Socialist party. What part of socialism don’t you understand. Fascism – socialism – communism are all cut from the same fabric. I think Limbaugh argues for debate, to understand where you stand relative to ease of running a complex state and personal freedom.

    You are nothing more than polemic thinker or is that an ignorant thinker. Montex this applies to you as well.

  20. As an Apple user since 1989 and a former badged engineer I think Apple users should help Apple users regardless. If knew the answer to Rush’s problem I would try to help.

    If you are not aware, the Church of Satan also uses Apple and if they posted a question I would more than likely also try to offer a solution even though I am a Presbyterian (Protestant) and could not differ more with their purpose.

    http://www.churchofsatan.com/Pages/Apple.html

    True Apple fans would aid true Apple fans, IMHO.

    -mullman

  21. +++

    60%+ of my wife and I’s friends are very liberal. Teachers and other very stereo typical very liberal people. ALL of then would never bash Limbaugh that way. They would say they disagree with him as they do, but NEVER the HATE you guys show. They know we are very Republican and we still go out together. I bet all you very verbal HATE throwers have never had lunch with a Republican let alone called one your friend!! Think about it….. You act as you are so compassionate. If you really are, go out and ask a Republican to lunch or dinner and be friendly for God sake!! Somehing tells me you couldn’t break that “shell” of self-righteous high brow liberalism. Come on! Hug a Republican! And say you care for him or her!!

    ++

  22. @ macromancer

    No, it doesn’t, but when the LEADERS take it to an extreme level, then yes, it is.

    —Explain to me how Rush has taken it to the extreme.

    Just for the record, I lean left politically, but I believe in a strong military, just not the irresponsible way it has be used, also capitalism, but not at the expense of morality and principles, and also pride for your country, so long is it doesn’t blind you to the point of lacking objectivity. So does that make me a retard?

    —Explain to me how Rush is for capitalism taking morality and principles out of our everyday life. Explain to me how Rush’s pride for his country connects to fascism.

    No you’re not a retard.

  23. “You know, one thing Rush has always said is that one of the left’s biggest problems is that they have absolutely zero sense of humor. If these posts don’t demonstrate that in SPADES…”

    Name 10 intentionally funny conservatives. I can think of 1 – P.J. O’Rourke. But it’s true, there a sticks up asses on both sides.

  24. Time Machine archives are tag with the MAC address of the primary interface of the machine that the archive is for. So even though he thinks the five other macs are the same, to Time Machine they are different. What he can try to do with 10.5.2 is to enable the Time Machine icon in the menu bar, hold down the option key while he clicks on the menu and the “Enter Time Machine” menu item will change to “Browse other time machine disks”. That may enable the other 5 macs to see and use the time machine archive that he created on another mac. Or there is a way to change the MAC address in the Time machine archive to the MAC address of the next machine he wants to restore a mail box on.

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  25. I don’t understand why you guys hate republicans so much.

    They stand for small government.
    They stand for not killing babies before they are born.
    They stand against terrorism.
    They stand for small government that stays out of your lives.
    They stand for strong fiscal policy.
    They stand for capitalism.
    They stand for freedom.
    They stand for the free market.

    Democrats think government is the solution.
    Democrats think its ok to kill babies.
    Democrats are weak on terrorism.
    Democrats love huge government.
    Democrats love the redistribution of wealth.
    Democrats think that corporations are the worst thing to happen to the USA.
    Democrats think its ok to steal from the rich and give to the poor… because “its just not fair”.
    DEMOCRATS HAVE NO IDEA WHAT ‘PERSONAL RESPONSIBILTY’ IS.

  26. There are problems with certain DSL
    / Cable internet providers devices which will cause the problems that he is
    referring to. These include devices from Sprint / Embarq. Since Rush I think
    lives in Florida, as do I, this could be the problem. If the DSL Modem is
    switched to Bridge Mode, the problems will be resolved! I had the same
    problem with my DSL modems.. Basically, you end up with NAT on top of NAT
    and it will only work intermittently.

  27. Hey! Look at me!!! I just a plain old country Conservative.

    I have no problems with most of what Rush says. I have enough sense to check my facts, regardless of who I hear something from. I listen to Ed Schultz when I get a chance, also. Big deal.

    Most of the quotes I have read here of Rush’s were actually for comedy, or at least to be entertaining. Get over it.

    As far as the Mail problem, I have always had good luck with .Mac rebuilding everything.

    Obviously he could be using someone besides Apple for mail, but it also keeps my AOL in line.

    Apparently he has his own server for mail. Reckon?

    I guess I’m lucky I don’t have problems like his…..

    I really do enjoy watching “open mindedness” in action here. Proves most of our theories about “uber libs” are true.

    7:06 PM Quote about Rush at ESPN. You actually typed all that and still didn’t understand it. No wonder you can’t grasp what Conservatism is all about.

    Most of my hardcore football buddies agreed. It wasn’t that McNabb wasn’t good, and has gotten better since. It is that the media fawned over him just because he was black, just as they are doing over Barack.

    Now will what I just said be interpreted as racist? Probably, but only by people who use racism as a crux and take it out of context for a junior-high attempt at winning arguments.

    Is he a decent guy? Yes!…but he ain’t no Mitt Romney.
    -Another Conservative for Obama in ’08…and Mitt in ’12

  28. This is clearly rude on the part of Rush Limbaugh. Just because he’s a celebrity, and a hard cord neo-con, he somehow thinks he deserves to be answered by Steve Jobs. Isn’t this called special treatment, the thing he continually denegrates for groups that he claims want “special treatment” such as gays wanting to marry or pass hate crimes bills? What a son of a bitch.

  29. @Ampar

    She was insulting for no reason what-so-ever. Usually when somebody tells another person “who cares” when the other person is insulting, it means “ignore them”.

    And yes I am a newbie. Do I get a gold star sticker?

  30. @ derek
    No most of us don’t “hate Republicans so much.” Although I do chafe at the constant stream of invective against the mythical “commie libs”. Look up the terms “false generalization,” “strawman argument,” and “logical fallacy.” Then review your previous post.

    @ angela
    I care what Chrissy thinks is funny. Oh, and Rush — if he believes what he says — is a bigot. (The transcripts are there, just read them — I have.) If he doesn’t, as you had suggested he’s trolling for a reaction, then he’s whore. Which is worse?

  31. “This is clearly rude on the part of Rush Limbaugh. Just because he’s a celebrity, and a hard cord neo-con, he somehow thinks he deserves to be answered by Steve Jobs. Isn’t this called special treatment, the thing he continually denegrates for groups that he claims want “special treatment” such as gays wanting to marry or pass hate crimes bills? What a son of a bitch.”

    Rush obviously didn’t actually believe he was going to call. He wasn’t serious. God you have no sense of humor. Rush didn not think he was special.

  32. @TowerTone
    “Another Conservative for Obama in ’08…and Mitt in ’12”

    I’m struggling big time this election as well.
    Possibly Obama for me as well, cannot vote for the maverick McCain.

    IMHO Rush is entertainment for the most part.
    America is all about someone being successful in what they can do best, and Rush has certainly done that – kudos to him.

    20 some years ago I was a huge Rush fan and a relative wrote him a letter. He sent me an autographed photo and I thought that was very cool, it is here in my office.

  33. @Hm

    “@ angela
    I care what Chrissy thinks is funny. Oh, and Rush — if he believes what he says — is a bigot. (The transcripts are there, just read them — I have.) If he doesn’t, as you had suggested he’s trolling for a reaction, then he’s whore. Which is worse?”

    Its called Sarcasm or humor. He is not a bigot. He’s an entertainer. So actors playing in a movie are whores? You make no sense.

  34. Thanks, Angela
    And since you are a newbie here, I’ll vouch for ChrissyOne for always being true to her convictions. She is, after all, the coolest bike riding, camera snapping, bass playing, Mac using, quick witted dude-ess that I know of. Whatever that means.

    A real swinger ” width=”19″ height=”19″ alt=”grin” style=”border:0;” /> !!!

  35. you set up Time Machine to back up files on your computer, your mailboxes and the messages, notes, and to-do items they contain have been backed up regularly, based on the schedule you set for Time Machine.

    Schedule? What schedule? TimeMachine follows its own schedule. It’s either on or off.

  36. @Ag

    “The Mac Community does not need conservative idiots. Well, to be fair the world would be better off without them and their stupidity…”

    I am no Rush Limbaugh but am conservative and easily contribute $20K or so in Apple’s coffers every year. Capitalism is all of us choosing the products we deem best. Apple, as any company, needs all of us.

  37. The people that hate Rush are the same ones that want ANOTHER Clinton in the WH. The first Clinton rode the coattails of policys enacted way before he came into office then drug the Presidency through one scandal after another. Sorry, I don’t want the Wife that enabled him to be sitting there while he diddles the staff. Of course women will vote purely on the fact that the Candidate has boobs and is missing a appendage, yada, yada yada, you’ve all heard it before. Not that I think Bush has been great, there’s just NO WAY I’d ever want another Clinton in the office.

    And Rush, no matter whether you like him or not, has a right to speak his mind and use his Mac in peace. You iddiots wishing him bad are just being petty and childish. Even though I’m sure Hillary is a XP/Vista user I always hope that an old dog could learn new tricks. ” width=”19″ height=”19″ alt=”smile” style=”border:0;” />

  38. @ angela,

    If Rush were portrayed as a comedian/actor by most of his supporters, I would agree with you. But he’s not. If he were attempting to entertain, rather than influence, I would also agree with you. But again, he’s not. You must be familiar with the term “ditto-heads.” Rush is listed/marketed/listened-to as a political activist. He is a major contributor to the demise of real political dialog in the country.

    And no, I’m not crazy. But I am a carrier…

  39. mullman

    I know what you mean. It is not that I don’t admire McCain. I do. As a Democrat though. Seriously.

    When I was growing up in the 60’s, his persona was my idea of a Democrat, and I can respect him for that.

    But not as a Republican.

    So why would I vote for Obama? “Civil” war. And by that, I honestly mean “with civility”.

    At some point in our near future, America will have to face whether or not we actually are the “Beacon on the Hill” to other nations. Our economy and military will have to remain strong for this to happen. But first, we need to clean out the closet. Get it organized. And the sooner, the better.

    I have never really accepted that America could actually have a viable third party. I think I see a way now.

    It would allow Republicans to go back to being conservative, and Democrats to be strong on social issues but not weak on defense, and without dragging both parties into Socialism.

    Give the far left what they want in the form of the most liberal candidate there is (who also seems to be honest..that is a very important element. This won’t work with the Clinton’s in power).

    President Obama. I’m serious. Let’s get it over with.

    And I don’t mean send him up there just to rip him to shreds. Actually try to work with him in Congress. The proof will be in the pudding.

    We would have to stop short of expanding entitlements, as that can never be changed.

    If it is as disastrous as Carter was, then there will be a viable Democrat to challenge him, and they will have to be to the right of Obama, which will allow the Republicans to move back to where they should be, which is not to send someone like McCain up there.

    Now, I wouldn’t expect Obama to just sit it out after losing to Mark Warner (did I print that out loud?). That is where the third party could actually begin to assert itself, by running a President for re-election. The Socialist Party. They won’t be called that, of course, and it can include many of the groups that the Democrats are getting tired of listening to, not to mention the ones that are getting tired of the Democrats ignoring them after the elections are over.

    Now this is not a class structure (rich, poor, middle class) or racial (black, white, mixed) but an actual separation of ideas and ideals. And it is the ONLY way that the uber-libs will ever get any real power, ’cause the Clinton’s damn sure don’t care about you.

    For y’alls consideration.
    Thanks

  40. @Hm

    If Rush were portrayed as a comedian/actor by most of his supporters, I would agree with you. But he’s not. If he were attempting to entertain, rather than influence, I would also agree with you. But again, he’s not. You must be familiar with the term “ditto-heads.” Rush is listed/marketed/listened-to as a political activist. He is a major contributor to the demise of real political dialog in the country.

    And no, I’m not crazy. But I am a carrier…

    Rush is considered a political comedian to his supporters. However I do agree with you that he has influence. HOWEVER, his supporters ARE NOT racist and would not listen to HIM if he was racist. He is continually taken out of context. He has continually had his comments twisted.

  41. @ angela

    “However I should point out that there is unbelievable hypocrisy in the left as well.”

    Yes… and? I’m waiting? That’s like saying that everybody tells a lie at some point in their lives. Well, duh. But were talking about a specific person and a specific act of hypocrisy. You’re more than welcome to bring up any “Lefty” who is guilty of hypocrisy, but to just blanket statement that it exists is horribly obtuse. Be specific if you’re going to criticize.

    And just because somebody else is a hypocrite is no excuse for Rush’s appallingly hypocritical statement. Which he made on national radio. Heard by tens of thousands of people. In rest homes and trailer parks across the land.

  42. just tried from mail, and restored an email from october.

    It automatically created a new folder named “Time Machine” holding just the one restored email. Perfect.

    just went back and selected multiple messages. Just fine.

    One problem solved. I know someone at my office that could have used this yesterday. They lost the email that told them to cancel a daily report. Now that the requester is short 18k, they claim they didn’t ever ask for the daily report to be cancelled… three months ago.

  43. If it were only true
    Republicans stand for:
    1. They stand for small government.
    2. They stand for not killing babies before they are born.
    3. They stand against terrorism.
    4. They stand for small government that stays out of your lives.
    5. They stand for strong fiscal policy.
    6. They stand for capitalism.
    7. They stand for freedom.
    8. They stand for the free market.

    As a Responsible Liberal –
    1. Hey, I’m for a more efficient government – let’s do that instead. Let’s start with transparency. Who is spending what and where. That goes for EVERY one that gets a check from MY taxes and yours – Military included. \sarcasm-What about military vouchers like Bush Sr. created for education /sarcasm. This current Republican CONTROLLED government has definitely NOT gotten smaller.

    2. I’m all for sex education – hopefully we can avoid unwanted pregnancies and not rely on religious fear to direct sex un-education. Everyone agrees abortion is a terrible form of birth control.

    3. We’re all against terrorism. And who was that terrorist guy Bush let get away – oh yeah Ben Laden. It’s been 6 years now? (“Frankly I don’t think about him any more – George W. Bush”)

    4. All for less government in our lives. Like wiretapping (how’s that for “government getting in your life”). I won’t even get into sex in your own bedroom. Or is that a church intrusion? Hard to tell these days.

    5. Strong fiscal policy? Well, I haven’t seen that in the last 8 years of Republican control. But I’m definitely for it.

    6. I’m all for responsible Capitalism – not at the expenses of the environment or neglect of people that are less fortunate than others. Hey, were trying to create a decent society, not a purely Darwinian system where the weak die on the streets.

    7. I’m all for Freedom – apparently Republicans don’t think we’re free enough unless we are being watched by the government – to make sure we are free – from terrorism (“There is such a thing as too much Freedom – George W. Bush”)

    8. All for a free market – I work for myself – what about you?

    You should get some better information and clear your head of single minded ignorant right wing propaganda.

  44. @ Montex

    “Yes… and? I’m waiting? That’s like saying that everybody tells a lie at some point in their lives. Well, duh. But were talking about a specific person and a specific act of hypocrisy. You’re more than welcome to bring up any “Lefty” who is guilty of hypocrisy, but to just blanket statement that it exists is horribly obtuse. Be specific if you’re going to criticize.

    And just because somebody else is a hypocrite is no excuse for Rush’s appallingly hypocritical statement. Which he made on national radio. Heard by tens of thousands of people. In rest homes and trailer parks across the land.”

    Ask and you shall recieve.

    First of all, the claim to be open-minded. I think this thread and the last says it all.

    The claim to be against hate, while supporting hatred of Republicans/Conservatives.

    Michael Moore insists that corporations are evil and claims he doesn’t invest in the stock market due to moral principle. But Moore’s IRS forms, viewed by Schweizer, show that over the past five years he has owned shares in such corporate giants as Halliburton, Merck, Pfizer, Sunoco, Tenet Healthcare, Ford, General Electric and McDonald’s.

    Staunch union supporter Rep. Nancy Pelosi (Calif.) has received the Cesar Chavez Award from the United Farmworkers Union. But the $25 million Northern California vineyard she and her husband own is a non-union shop.

    Pelosi has received more money from the Hotel Employees and Restaurant Employees union than any other member of Congress in recent election cycles.

    The Pelosis are also partners in a restaurant chain called Piatti, which has 900 employees. The chain is – that’s right, a non-union shop.

    Ralph Nader is another liberal who claims that unions are essential to protect worker rights. But when an editor of one of his publications tried to form a union to ameliorate miserable working conditions, the editor was fired and the locks changed on the office door.

    Self-described socialist Noam Chomsky has described the Pentagon as “the most vile institution on the face of the earth” and lashed out against tax havens and trusts that benefit only the rich.

    But Chomsky has been paid millions of dollars by the Pentagon over the last 40 years, and he used a venerable law firm to set up his irrevocable trust to shield his assets from the IRS.

    Air America radio host Al Franken says conservatives are racist because they lack diversity and oppose affirmative action. But fewer than 1 percent of the people he has hired over the past 15 years have been African-American.

    Ted Kennedy has fought for the estate tax and spoken out against tax shelters. But he has repeatedly benefited from an intricate web of trusts and private foundations that have shielded most of his family’s fortune from the IRS.

    One Kennedy family trust wasn’t even set up in the U.S., but in Fiji.

    Another family member, environmentalist Robert Kennedy Jr., has said that it is not moral to profit from natural resources. But he receives an annual check from the family’s large holdings in the oil industry.

    Barbra Streisand has talked about the necessity of unions to protect a “living wage.” But she prefers to do her filming and postproduction work in Canada, where she can pay less than American union wages.

    Bill and Hillary Clinton have spoken in favor of the estate tax, and in 2000 Bill vetoed a bill seeking to end it. But the Clintons have set up a contract trust that allows them to substantially reduce the amount of inheritance tax their estate will pay when they die.
    Billionaire Bush-basher George Soros says the wealthy should pay higher, more progressive tax rates. But he holds the bulk of his money in tax-free overseas accounts in Curacao, Bermuda and the Cayman Islands.

    Schweizer writes: “Liberals claim to support affirmative action but don’t practice it. They support higher taxes but set up complicated tax shelters to avoid paying them. They claim to be ardent environmentalists but abandon their cause when it impinges on their own property rights.

    “The reality is that liberals like to preach in moral platitudes. They like to condemn ordinary Americans and Republicans for a whole host of things – racism, lack of concern for the poor, polluting the environment, and greed.

    “But when it comes to applying those same standards to themselves, liberals are found to be shockingly guilty of hypocrisy.

    But you’re right, that doesn’t make Rush’s hypocrisy and less. However Rush has taken full responsibility for what he did and apoligized over the air to the country. Can we say the same for the list above? No.

  45. @ angela

    My previous post had less to do with Limbaugh and more a commentary on this country’s leaders. I think he is just an opportunist who likes to whip people in a frenzy to stir his ‘base’ get higher ratings. The sad result of that is increased polarization among people on the left and right.

    I have some friends who claim to be very republican and I claim to be more liberal relatively. At the end of the day, they have traits that Id call way more liberal (smoking pot and deliberately stealing music online) than I have but they have extreme conservative tendencies from a fiscal standpoint and regarding government interference of businesses. But theyd rather label me liberal (people who are conservative love their labels) since i dont agree with them on those sort of issues.

    My big beef is the way this admin has run the country, the military, the economy over the last year years, and in particular the absolute shredding of civil liberties in the name of their security, and the fear mongering they have fomented to achieve such. Does that make me an extreme liberal? No. does it mean that i fear for the future of this country. Yes.

    Sadly you cannot voice opposition to this admin without being labeled an idiot liberal. The people doing such are doing themselves and everyone else a disservice by being ignorant and not taking time to reall think about what’s going on.

  46. @macromancer
    “I just can’t stand that he is a blatant opportunist, who doesn’t practice what he preaches, is an elitist asshole and essentially whips people into an unnecessary frenzy in order to inflate ratings for his show (read: make money) at the expense of rational dialogue.”

    Funny, a quick rewrite and it could describe your sides’ candidates:

    I just can’t stand that he/she is a blatant opportunist who doesn’t practice what he/she preaches. He/she is an elitist and essentially whips people into an unnecessary frenzy in order to inflate poll numbers for his/her campaign (read: get power) at the expense of rational dialogue.

    That wasn’t hard at all, and I didn’t even have to swear!

  47. @ Driver
    “The people that hate Rush are the same ones that want ANOTHER Clinton in the WH.”

    Dude – you are way out of touch! Haven’t you been paying attention? Hillary is getting her a** handed to her in the caucuses and primaries. In my state of Washington, every single district went for Obama. As in all of them. In my own precinct it was 4 to 1 for Obama. And in case you hadn’t noticed, Seattle is one of the most “Lefty” cities in the country.

    Then again, if you are one of those crazy, right-wing nutjobs that thinks G.W. Bush is the greatest American hero of all time… then I’m just wasting my keystrokes.

  48. @ angela
    “But you’re right, that doesn’t make Rush’s hypocrisy and less. However Rush has taken full responsibility for what he did and apoligized over the air to the country. Can we say the same for the list above? No.”

    I see you are practiced in the art of Straw-Man Arguments. Bravo. You have served your masters well and you shall be rewarded.

    It’s all bunk, of course. Just a distraction to keep people from looking at what the Bush Administration is up to. And you ditto heads fall for it every time.

  49. “Funny, a quick rewrite and it could describe your sides’ candidates:”

    Funny, you seem to think you know my politics.
    Independent.
    Period.

    I’d actually consider voting for a republican if they wouldn’t nominate one that wants to rewrite the constitution based on the Bible or bomb Iran/leave troops in Iraq for 100 more years.

    Sadly the McCain vote is a vote for 4 more years of what we’ve stewed in for 7+ already. More spending that we cannot afford. More intrusion. More war. More fear mongering.

    And BTW thank you for proving my point about how conservatives LOVE to label people the first chance they get. It was like clockwork.

  50. “those of you who slam him for his views and his previous prescription drug addiction are way off base. “

    No he deserves every bit of criticism he gets for spouting off how anyone doing drugs illegally should be thrown in jail and locked up, and then doing an about face when the shoe is on the other foot.

    It’s always different when its you. I’d have a shred of respect for him if he had ever recanted his statement and showed a little humility.

  51. Who can have faith in a Party who’s two biggest pundits are Rush Limbaugh and Ann Coulter.

    The absolute scary thing about it is that there is a percentage of the nation devoid of individual thought who can only regurgitate the poison spewed from these two.

    Listen to Rush’s show – it’s monothematic-group thought at it’s very best.

  52. Rush,

    Don’t let the liberal weenies / socialists that post here get you down. I’m a diehard conservative, I love Macs, and everybody in my office (about 40 physicians) has moved over to Macs. I guess it goes without saying that those 40 physicians also all work for a living and are therefore Republicans. As you know, liberalism is a mental disorder that is hard to cure, and we physicians can’t afford to be impaired in this way.

    MD

  53. I have an idea…

    Those of you who want to discuss politics, or bash other people, go find a website just for that.

    That way, when you come to this site, hopefully that crap will be all out of your system, and we can have an on-topic discussion, mkay?

    For the record, I am neither to the right, nor to the left. I am an educated individual, and I prefer to make my choice based on issues, rather than simply voting for my party.

    I am a registered republican, but only because I find myself just to the right of center.

    <a >Party of Two</a>

  54. Rush,

    I’m a die-hard tool and can’t be bothered to think for myself. Thanks for saving me the time for three hours everyday! You’re the voice of quiet, scholarly dignity in a world of brain-diseased baby-eating liberals. You’re even better than David Duke. Please accept my body to penetrate as you desire. One day, I’d love to drink your sweet, sweet man-chowder on a bed of fragrant flower petals. Until then, I’ll hear your divine voice echoing through my dreams.

    -ditto

  55. Rush,

    Please forgive me for what I just said. It is I that is the toolshed. I’m a lonely girl who has too much time on my hands, and I spend an inordinate amount of my day perusing the “Comments” section of MDN, trying to think up witty responses to comments, and getting the regulars that come here worked up about my sexuality. Secretly, I realize that liberalism isn’t truly tolerant and that it ultimately leads to fascism.

    Sorry again,
    ChrissyUno

    P.S. From this day forward, I’m going to vote for God-fearing leaders and I’m going to get no more body piercings or tatoos.

  56. Mussolini?!! you quote a stark raving lunatic to support your ideological left leanings? OMG no wonder liberals are stupid, and besides that you should look up definitions of words when quoting people from “cross the pond, liberal in Europe is not anything like it is here, or don’t you bother to pay attention to the world? Watch British parliament once and while and you might notice that liberal and conservative opponents are the exact opposite as here. BTW did you ever notice how close “ideological” is to “idiot”?

  57. @Mark the MD,

    To paraphrase Winston Churchill:
    “if you’re twenty and not a liberal, you have no heart; if you’re forty and not a conservative, you have no brain”

    Sooooo, being as that I’m approaching forty………..

    Mark

    P.S. I’m not sure I completely get the “anal disorder” thing other than you associating the word anal with conservative. Do anal disorders keep you out of the military? If so, you know more about these disorders than I. In the future, could you at least try to be slightly witty?

  58. Rush!, Time Machine is flawed in concept

    For over 20 years Apple did not provide any sort of OS based backup method. People manually backed up files or even used automated software to do so.

    In OS 9 days it was a simple matter to simply copy the System Folder to another drive using the Finder. Today we can’t do that.

    The reason Apple introduced Time Machine is because of gradual introduction of the building blocks for Digital Rights Management, aka “copy protection” schemes. Which require hiding and protecting parts of the OS and/or EFI firmware. So with Time Machine, Apple can choose what gets backed up, instead of the whole drive, OS and all, like it used to be. This is why a Time Machine drive is not boot-able.

    First it started with OS X not being able to be simply copied via the Finder, next computers with Extensible Firmware Interface (EFI) where introduced with the announcement of Apple’s switch to Intel processors. Intel, Microsoft , AMD and others have gotten together to place restrictions on what a user can do with their own computer. EFI is pre OS boot shell environment that can: contact the internet; read and move files around on the drive, intercept OS and software calls to hardware (to prevent a copy of a c.d. for instance) and it’s chief purpose; to monitor machines remotely via the internet to verify DRM schemes. All this occurs independently of the OS and even BEFORE THE OPERATING SYSTEM EVEN LOADS. So through EFI your drive can be observed via the internet, what software you have, files etc. (why you should be encrypting your drive via System Preferences). The industry, led by Intel, has designed computers that eventually will NOT WORK IF NOT CONNECTED TO THE INTERNET.

    Because of this the reason Time Machine is flawed is because Apple is deciding what you should be allowed to backup. Instead of you deciding what should be backed up.

    Apple has decided to limit what you backup and the users nature is to want to backup everything.

    Apple doesn’t really want you to be able to make a duplicate boot-able drive in case of hardware failure and the users nature is to have a alternate duplicate of a drive so they can immediately get back with a working OS, all their files and applications in place in a mater of seconds. Instead of hours or days with a total rebuild and backup from Time-Machine.

    What is the solution since we are unable to simply copy our entire boot drives via the Finder? Use cloning software.

    Cloning software copies EVERYTHING, from one drive to another on the bit level. Not based upon OS or Time Machine preferences or limitations.

    The two best cloning softwares are Carbon Copy Cloner and Super-Duper! Both can be auto-mated to clone your entire boot drive and update it for you whenever you wish. This offers a much superior backup experience compared to the flawed Time-Machine. To boot from a clone of a boot drive, simply hold option while the drive is hooked up and a choice of boot drives is given.

    So if your under deadline, your hard drive fails to boot the computer. Simply hook up the clone and ‘hold option boot’ and you have lost little time, just the things you haven’t cloned from the last time.

    Cloning is the best method. Until Time-Machine is boot-able and offers the superior experience and reliability of cloned drives, it’s flawed in my opinion.

  59. @ron
    We should all better go and learn chineese, now… English speech might soon be left for history! ” width=”19″ height=”19″ alt=”wink” style=”border:0;” />
    Can you speak or write Chinese, French, German, Spanish, etc?
    Oh! Or then, perhaps, it should be prohibited for all nonAnglo-Saxon natives to express himself in an american-english speeking forum? 8x

    PS |o| I guess, the problem is: many people don’t master their very own language and send poorly corrected texts…

  60. @SKY LARK

    Same for me!
    I’m always flabergasted when i read about these Democrates and Republcans discussions… From the outside, it’s 2 names for exactly the same mentality… Maybe it would be a good thing for America to add some more political parties in the ring and have some more choice when voting…

  61. RUSH: We’ll be updating 30 computers to Leopard by April 1st and using Time Machine to back them all up to a big Xserve. I’m the first test. I’ll let you know what we figure out keep checking back here, if I find a solution. I’ll post it. We MUST have e-mail backup so that will be a priority mission.

    I also wanted to use Back to My Mac, and will be testing that also.
    My home computers are all on Airport.

  62. here’s an email answer. Rush, I dont know if you will get to this but here goes. The problem youre having lies in the time of email server you are using. If it is hotmail, then you are using pop3. That’s crappy. You want to switch to an email service that uses IMAP. Gmail uses IMAP. I hate hotmail for it. Hopefully that solves your problem.

  63. I’ve used Apple Computers since September of 1981. I have been a conservative since….well, probably since I was born. I am a dyed in the wool Republican. My house contains 7 running, networked Macs including the 2008 Mac Pro.

    Rush is great and I listen to him, on the radio, whenever I can. I think you liberals on here should take note that Rush, who is a heck of a lot more reasonable, isn’t slamming Jobs because he is Liberal. He recognizes they have differences and it’s not about Politics but Macs. You guys are trying to make political issue out of someone asking for help on the platform you use! Dumb!

  64. Okay, here’s the sick and twisted little mind I have…

    Rush isn’t the only controversial “political” figure to profess his love for Macs–Al Sharpton is also a big fan. Do the conservative MDN readers have any nice things to say about Sharpton’s Mac fandom? Let’s hear it…

    On a similar note, MDN has been bloviating for years that Apple should pay Rush as a pitchman—how about this for a series of commercials:

    In much the format of the old Howie Long/Teri Hatcher ads, Al Sharpton and Rush Limbaugh in seeming but unstated domestic bliss together extol the virtues of the Mac. Rush can show Al how easily he made a photo album of their latest trip to Atlantis. Al can show Rush how easy it is to find in Spotlight that video of the bar mitzvah they went to last week that Rush thought he lost. Finish up with the tagline that Macs have been bringing people together for over two decades.

  65. @ Al +1 yesss! so obvious! Why is not everyone just as completely objectiv as i am?
    @ Mike from Fernie +1 I guess someone has to live within USA to be unable to see that… Must be too extrem right since too long, probably…
    This said, Mr Rush Limbaugh must have received tones of advices and has probably fixed his problem by now.

    PS. But no one, for that sort of matter, should expect any call from a billionaire

  66. The arrogance of the liberals on this board is one of the reasons non-Mac users get annoyed with Mac users. We all know that Macs are better than PC’s and that PC users would find that out if they tried Macs. But the condescending attitude of many Mac users just aggravates people and shows how small minded they are. I don’t agree with Rush on many things, but what does that have to do with using or not using Macs. Personally, I think that many Mac users are fearful of too many PC users switching. They like the feeling that they are part of the in-crowd and Macs are their little secret. Deep down I think they don’t want to let everyone in their little clique. And I have found that liberals tend to be the least inclusive people I know. Their haughty and know it all attitude speaks to their insecurities. I’m a conservative and it gripes me that Al Gore is on Apple’s board, but I’m not going to let that stop me from using Macs. Some of the people here really do need to get a life.

  67. Anyone who has listened to Rush over the years knows that he has been an avid Mac user and fan since before many of the “ranters” on this site were out of diapers.
    Quality,longevity, common-sense ease of use (intuitive, has been the word of choice), as well as constant innovation and unique style, are qualities that appeal to ANYONE across the political spectrum.
    The fact that Apple’s commercial success as a capitalist entity allows Steve to promote his personal views on the issues of the day is what makes this country great, as does Rush’s success with his EIB Network.
    The fact that I and all others on this site can say what we want about this without fear of the “thought police” knocking at our door is another reason why we are unique in the world, though the PC crowd is trying mightily to assume the “thought-policing” role.
    NY from NJ

  68. Look, I can’t stand this guy, but there are a number of people in this world I can’t stand. No matter what though if someone asks for help and I can help them I will, even if I could care less for the person’s opinions.

  69. I don’t even use Time Machine as a backup or anything. I believe that a true backup, like Apple’s Backup is a much better option for most. At least the combination of the two. TM is far from perfect, but it will get better and have more features in future versions.

  70. Rush, I don’t like your politics, but I’m with you on this one..

    “Back To My Mac” just doesn’t work as advertised.

    This was a .mac feature that I was very much looking forward to that for me, would justify the $99 .mac annual fee.

  71. @montex

    Hey you should know about that not thinking part eh?

    Liberals of today who actually wish to be called “Progressives” are the real facists and their history goes all the way back to Woodrow Wilson who predated Mussolini in establishing a fascist “War Socialism” in this country and was idolized by “progressives” then and since.

    I’m a conservative and I’ve been using Macs since before they were Macs – remember the LISA?

  72. Apple is a business. It is not good for the shareholders to only sell Macs to the Rush haters. I listen to Rush from time to time and he has been a Mac user for years. Maybe he is smarter than people give him credit for. He is rich, not married, and uses Macs. Sounds smart to me. BTW, I love being married:)

    Parker – MacSoftwareList.com

  73. ‘I’d love to drink your sweet, sweet man-chowder on a bed of fragrant flower petals. Until then, I’ll hear your divine voice echoing through my dreams.’

    Actually, I think the politically correct term is ‘baby-batter’.

  74. So a lede with “Rush” was able to get us to 4 pages. That’s a lot of bits flowing through the internet’s tubes. Unfortunately, cutting out all the ad hominem attacks, the blatant generalizations, the spewing of talking-points of questionable or no validity, and the rants against the mythical straw-men from both sides would leave less than a page.

    Shakespeare had it right:
    “See, what a scourge is laid upon your hate, …
      … all are punish’d.”

  75. I like Rush. Now that he has shown he is in fact quite human, I take his words even more seriously. Folks, when Rush makes comments, I dare you to look deeply for ill-logic. Don’t just take sides because you’re a lefty, but actually look for unsound philosophies. I doubt you will find them, but if you do, call him on it. If he is wrong, he will admit it. This is something that many lefties have trouble with. Just accept when you’re wrong, admit it, and embrace the truth. You will be a happier person. I for one am glad to be a Mac user and a Rush listener, though I don’t have my radio tuned to talk day in day out. However when I am listening, I usually agree because Rush uses sound logic. Sure, he makes fun of the libs, but you’ve got to admit, they’re always based on truth. So hey, let’s all be friends. I welcome any one’s opinions, but try to look at social problems from all angles, and remember, this country was founded on Christian principles, so if you don’t like that, then just move on (no pun intended, but it is actually kind of funny). Thanks and have an awesome day! Mac on!!!

  76. Knight Rider, a shadowy flight into the dangerous world of a man who does not exist.

    Rush Limbaugh, champions the cause of the innocent, the helpless, the powerless in a world of criminals who operate above the law, and apparently, assless chaps.

    A lone crusader in the dangerous world… the world of the Knight Rider.

  77. So, who has a wider stance on the issues, Rush or Republican Senator Larry Craig? It’s good to know that Larry is sticking it out until the end of his term. I know he doesn’t want to lose all of those frequent flier smiles.

  78. Any reasonable person must respect the opinions expressed by other reasonable persons. You must have the intelligence and desire to do whatever research necessary to adequately educate yourself to make informed comments on the subject/s at hand. Most don’t and we suffer the lack of intelligent debate as a result. Never take the pontifications of activists, regardless of position, as gospel. They are rarely accurate, left or right.

    In light of the above, help the guy fix his Mac.

  79. Holy crap, McCain is our dream. A Republican who is truly a Democrat. Thank you Mitt Romney. It’s great fun to see the bullshit conservative agenda collapse. Can we get our billions back from a staged war back now? George W. must have a great joke for this now.
    Heh heh heh heh.

    “I know the human being and fish can coexist peacefully.” —George Bush, Saginaw, Mich., Sept. 29, 2000

    What a scary fucking idiot.

  80. This is for the total f-ing MORON that doesn’t know that Mussolini WAS as Fascist along with Hitler. That was his description of what he believed Fascism meant. That was his quote. It’s a bit like quoting George Bush as to what he thinks Conservatism is. However he would probably say it all wrong.

    And FYI Conservatism is also and ideology. Geeze some folks are just dumb as rocks.

    To go along with the Mussolini quite- From Wikipedia
    Fascism is an authoritarian political ideology (generally tied to a mass movement) that considers the individual subordinate to the interests of the state, party or society as a whole. Fascists seek to forge a type of national unity, usually based on (but not limited to) ethnic, cultural, racial, religious attributes. Various scholars attribute different characteristics to fascism, but the following elements are usually seen as its integral parts: patriotism, nationalism, statism, militarism, totalitarianism, anti-communism, corporatism, populism, collectivism, autocracy and opposition to political and economic liberalism.

    If you don’t like the definitions. I suggest you change your own idiot ideology.

  81. Um, what exactly does Conservatism have to do with Fascism? Its an extreme. Just because you are patriotic doesn’t mean you are a fascist. Its how you portray it. I can’t stand people who just call other people fascist when they don’t agree with them. The nastiness in here is stunning.

  82. Well, since I seem to be spouting off quotes now instead of trying offer a cogent statement, lets just throw out the gauntlet with:

    Khitan General: Wrong! Conan, what is best in life?
    Conan: To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women!
     — R. Howard

    Or should we got to his inspiration:
    The greatest pleasure is to vanquish your enemies and chase them before you, to rob them of their wealth and see those dear to them bathed in tears, to ride their horses and clasp to your bosom their wives and daughters. — Ghengis Khan

    As this seems to be the prevailing attitude here, it’s time to close off this thread, sip a nice glass of a Glen Ord single-malt I’ve got stashed away, listen to some Arcade Fire on iTunes, and then go to sleep…

  83. Um, what exactly does Liberalism have to do with Socialism? Its an extreme. Just because you are progressive doesn’t mean you are a socialist. Its how you portray it. I can’t stand people who just call other people socialist when they don’t agree with them. The nastiness in here is stunning.

  84. I can fix that stuff right away. It’ll cost you:

    * You publicly apologizing to every liberal that you’ve ever met.
    * then the moderates
    * then the republicans you’ve disappointed over and over again.
    * A personal apology to each member of the Clinton family (including pets and household staff)
    * Spend one normal work week being nothing but kind, courteous and thoughtful to everyone you talk to (everyone.).
    * Go 5 hours without insulting someone or insulting their intelligence
    * Form no arguments without providing sources and reference data for 1 day
    * Stop using drugs and/or stop lying about it by accusing others of being druggies.
    * 1 cent for tax purposes and account tracking

    When you’ve gathered all of that together, give me a call.

    -Steve

  85. Apparently, Rush is too moronic to simply call tech support. Plus, who does he think he is to demand that Steve Jobs personally instruct him in how to use his Macs.

    Rush’s ego is larger than a supernova.

  86. @@angela

    Socialism word for word in its definition in Wikipedia is EXACTLY what Obama and Clinton are proposing.

    Socialism
    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Socialism refers to a broad array of ideologies and political movements with the goal of a socio-economic system in which property and the distribution of wealth are subject to control by the community.[1] This control may be either direct—exercised through popular collectives such as workers’ councils—or indirect—exercised on behalf of the people by the state. As an economic system, socialism is often characterized by state, worker, or community ownership of the means of production, goals which have been attributed to, and claimed by, a number of political parties and governments throughout history.

    The modern socialist movement largely originated in the late-19th century working class movement. In this period, the term ‘socialism’ was first used in connection with European social critics who criticized capitalism and private property. For Karl Marx, who ‘helped establish and define the modern socialist movement, socialism would be the socioeconomic system that arises’ after the proletarian revolution, in which the means of production are owned collectively. This society would then progress into communism.

    Nice try though.

  87. Socialism
    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Socialism refers to a broad array of ideologies and political movements with the goal of a socio-economic system in which property and the distribution of wealth are subject to control by the community.[1] This control may be either direct—exercised through popular collectives such as workers’ councils—or indirect—exercised on behalf of the people by the state. As an economic system, socialism is often characterized by state, worker, or community ownership of the means of production, goals which have been attributed to, and claimed by, a number of political parties and governments throughout history.

    The modern socialist movement largely originated in the late-19th century working class movement. In this period, the term ‘socialism’ was first used in connection with European social critics who criticized capitalism and private property. For Karl Marx, who ‘helped establish and define the modern socialist movement, socialism would be the socioeconomic system that arises’ after the proletarian revolution, in which the means of production are owned collectively. This society would then progress into communism.

    I didn’t nitpick a couple of ideas out of socialism that coencide with Liberalism like the people who called Conservatives “fascist” did. All I have to do is copy and past the definition of socialism from wikipedia to make my point. Nice try though.

  88. “I didn’t nitpick a couple of ideas out of socialism that coencide with Liberalism like the people who called Conservatives “fascist” did. All I have to do is copy and past the definition of socialism from wikipedia to make my point. Nice try though.”

    Do I need to point out that YOU put the word Liberalism into your Post. It’s not in the definition you posted.

    From Wiki-
    Liberalism refers to a broad array of related ideas and theories of government that consider <b>individual liberty to be the most important political goal.[1] Liberalism has its roots in the Western Age of Enlightenment.</b>
    Broadly speaking, liberalism emphasizes individual rights and equality of opportunity. Different forms of liberalism may propose very different policies, but they are generally united by their support for a number of principles, including extensive freedom of thought and speech, limitations on the power of governments, the rule of law, the free exchange of ideas, a market or mixed economy, and a transparent system of government.[2] All liberals — as well as some adherents of other political ideologies — support some variant of the form of government known as liberal democracy, with open and fair elections, where all citizens have equal rights by law.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism

    Liberalism has NOTHING to do with Socialism. Hello!

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