Apple today released Mac OS X 10.5.2 and Mac OS X Server 10.5.2 which are recommended for all users running Mac OS X Leopard and includes general operating system fixes that enhance the stability, compatibility and security of your Mac.
This is the mother of all Mac OS X updates.
What’s included in Mac OS X 10.5.2 (Client):
Active Directory
• Addresses issues which could hinder or prevent binding Mac OS X 10.5.x clients to Active Directory domains.
AirPort
• Improves connection reliability and stability
• Includes 802.1X improvements.
• Resolves certain kernel panics.
Back to my Mac
• Adds support for more third-party routers, as detailed in this article.
Dashboard
• Improves performance of certain Apple Dashboard widgets (such as Dictionary).
• Addresses an issue in which Dashboard widgets may no longer be accessible after switching to or from an account that has Parental Controls enabled.
Dock
• Updates Stacks with a List view option, a Folder view option, and an updated background for Grid view. (Ladies and gentlemen, Stacks are no longer virtually useless!)
Desktop
• Addresses legibility issues with the menu bar with an option to turn off transparency in Desktop & Screen Saver preferences.
• Adjusts menus to be slightly-less translucent overall.
iCal
• Improves iCal so that it accurately reflects responses to recurring meetings.
• Addresses an issue in which a meeting may remain on the calendar after being cancelled.
• Addresses stability issues related to .Mac syncing of iCal calendars.
• Resolves an intermittent issue in which editing an event with attendees would cause the event to shrink and not register that the event was updated.
iChat
• Addresses an issue with simultaneously-logged in accounts in which iChat sounds generated from one account might be heard in another account.
• Fixes an issue in which iChat idle time is affected by Time Machine backups.
• Improves connectivity when running iChat behind a router that doesn’t preserve ports.
• Enables logged chats from previous versions of iChat to open faster and more reliably.
• Addresses an issue with text chats in which users may be unable to receive messages from the sender.
• Addresses an issue that may prevent rejoining an AIM chat room without reopening iChat.
• Addresses video chat compatibility issues with AIM 6 and third-party routers.
• Fixes an issue with case-sensitivity of AIM handles.
iSync
• Adds support for Samsung D600E and D900i phones.
Finder
• Addresses an issue in which Finder could unexpectedly quit when displaying folder contents in Column view.
• Addresses an issue in which Finder could unexpectedly quit when accessing Users and Groups in a Get Info pane.
• Resolves an issue that prevented setting permissions on a folder alias.
• Resolves an issue in which the Eject command could write to a disc in the optical drive.
• Fixes an issue in which the scroll bar might disappear when deleting a file within a folder that includes files that are out of view.
• Fixes an issue in the Sharing & Permissions section of Get Info windows, in which the gear icon appears to be gray/disabled after authentication.
• Addresses an issue in which the Show Icon Preview preference might not be not saved when turning it off.
• Fixes an issue that could occur when trying to print an image from the Finder.
Mail
• Addresses an issue with Message menu’s Mark > As Read choice.
• Fixes an issue in which duplicate On My Mac folders may appear in the sidebar after upgrading to Leopard.
• Improves the accuracy of the Data Detectors feature.
• Resolves an issue with scrolling through a Note that is displayed using the split view in the message window.
• Fixes an issue with deleting messages located in the Drafts folder.
• Fixes an issue in which dragging the icon in the Safari URL field into a Mail message creates an attachment instead of a link.
• Addresses an issue found when opening a item in the Notes folder that is not a Note.
• Fixes an issue that may prevent RSS feeds from being delivered in Mail.
• Resolves an issue in which a selected message could “flash” from blue to gray when in Organize by Thread mode.
• Fixes an issue with scrolling between multiple To Dos in an email message.
• Fixes an issue in which the body of email messages with certain MIME structures may not be displayed.
• Improves performance with America Online (AOL) account-based messages in Mail.
• Addresses issues with some ISPs during automatic set-up in Mail.
• Addresses an issue in which Mail might not send mail on some networks to some SMTP servers.
• Mail now automatically disables the (unsupported) third-party plugin GrowlMail version 1.1.2 or earlier to avoid issues.
• Adds an option to view large icons in the Mailbox list.
Networking
• Addresses a hanging issue that may occur when connecting to an AFP network volume.
• Parental Controls
• Improves stability when opening the Parental Controls System Preferences pane.
• Fixes an issue that may prevent changes to the email address for permission requests.
• Addresses an issue with printer administration for a guest account enabled with Parental Controls.
• Addresses an issue with setting printer administration privileges from another Mac on the local network.
• Fixes an issue that could prevent certain applications from being allowed.
• Addresses accuracy issues with the web content filter.
Preview
• Improves stability when scrolling through a PDF document.
• Fixes an issue that prevents tabbing within a PDF document after clicking on the PDF.
• Improves the Mail Document feature so that email attachments are more reliably created from Print Preview.
Printing
• Addresses an issue in which remote printers may be deleted when the computer is put to sleep.
• Improves printing performance when using some Microsoft Office applications.
• Resolves an issue with some printing options, such as landscape orientation, number of copies, two-sided printing, and so forth that may not have functioned with some printers shared by Microsoft Windows.
• Adds support for certain printers connected to the USB port of an AirPort Extreme or AirPort Express base station.
• Resolves a stalling issue that could occur when installing certain Canon printing software from a disc.
RAW Image
• Adds RAW image support for several cameras, as detailed in this article.
Safari
• Addresses issues with Safari reliably resolving certain domains.
Login and Setup Assistant
• Addresses an issue in which Setup Assistant could unexpectedly appear each time Mac OS X 10.5 starts up.
• Improves stability and performance during log in.
System
• Improves the accuracy of the grammar checker.
• The computer will now shut down if an automatic disk repair does not succeed during startup.
Time Machine
• Adds a menu bar option for accessing Time Machine features (the menu extra can be enabled in Time Machine preferences).
• Improves backup reliability when computer name contains slash or non-ASCII characters.
• Fixes an issue in which the backup disk displayed in the Finder may be out of sync with the disk chosen for Time Machine.
• Addresses issues in which some external drives are not recognized by Time Machine.
• The status menu now appears by default.
Other
• Improves general stability when running third-party applications.
• Addresses an issue in which the incorrect search results may be displayed for certain Automator Find/Filter actions.
• Addresses an issue with the Latvian and Russian keyboard layouts.
• Addresses an issue in which the backlight could turn off before Energy Saver’s backlight setting.
Once Mac OS X 10.5.2 Update is applied, Software Update will expect users to download and install a separate graphics driver update, Leopard Graphics Update.
Mac OS X 10.5.2 and Mac OS X Server 10.5.2 are available via Software Update and also as standalone installers.
More info and download links:
• Mac OS X 10.5.2 Combo Update (343MB)
• Mac OS X Server 10.5.2 Combo Update(382MB)
wow, i must clicked just at the right time!
Ladies and gentlemen, may the snappiness commence!
Wow, it even makes my Tiger install seem snappier now!
Installed mine. So far so good. Expect the double boot that has been a part of the past few updates.
Ken
thanks apple, my snapper has never felt snappier!!
F___ing FAST!
My Barack Obama ads are snappier!
Still no iSync support for Palm Treo 755p, still no RAW support for Panasonic DMC-FZ18. Aside from those two personal gripes, nice update.
Hey, Loopy, if you think it makes 10.4 snappier, you should see what it’s done for 10.7!
This 24-inch multi-touch display is performing better, too. It’s so snappy, it even knows when I snap my fingers. That’s how we check our e-mail here in 2010.
Best thing is, Apple stock split at 250 and is already up to 245 again! Marty’s still too cocky, and Biff is still an asshole, though. So not all is well . . .
It SEEMS that we still don’t have the ability to “time machine” using our own USB drives via AirPort. SIGH! That was the ONE thing I was hoping for. Perhaps some other day.
Who’s gonna be the first to hose their machine?
I’ll wait a week.
and of course, get ready for the..
“10.5.2 broke my computer… nothing woks!”
I’ll give it about 2 hours before they start….
Well, it’s about time! Hopefully this will make Leopard solid and smooth out some of the rough edges.
Can’t wait to get home and download it with a decent speed cable connection. Here in the Empire State Building, the connection sucks because of the ISP Gouge-Effect.
343MB…that’s one fat cat.
Yeh, I;m interested to know if I can plug my USB HDD into my AirPort and do Wireless Backups…
…heck, I’d like to be able to just plug a USB HDD into it and be able to access it, without random disconnections and ‘Guest’ access even though Guest access is turned off.
OS X updates get my peener harder than monica ever could!!!
Glad to see you Mac lemmings are slowly trying to catch up to the far superior Microsoft Windows Vista OS….
Your Potential Our Passion
I feel a little snappier now that I’ve read this.
Steve, if you want to Sync your palm device, you need to buy The Missing Sync for Palm OS from Mark/Space. $40 and it’ll work like a charm.
And a security update to go along. Sounds like those Apple discussion forums will be busy.
Snappy too! But not MDN.
Will everybody now agree with what I’ve been saying: Leopard was not ready when it was launched forcing the largest public beta testing in the history of operating systems on any platform.
Shame on you Steve Jobs for being so dishonest and not telling us that you devoted ALL your human resources on your phone at the expense of Macintosh users throughout the world.
That was so fscking time!
Desktop
• Addresses legibility issues with the menu bar with an option to turn off transparency in Desktop & Screen Saver preferences.
• Adjusts menus to be slightly-less translucent overall.
Dang that’s a lot of fixes!
Go Apple
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Hmmmm repair permissions still take forever. Thought they would speed that one up on the next update. Or do we even need to run this permissions game at all?
My snapping turtle is snappier.
Will there be an OS X update for my iPhone to come?
. . . downloading Mac OS X now
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the download speed from Apple is fast, I’m impressed!
And I thought that only MSoft was capable of so much crap that needed so much fixing. What else do we have to endure before 10.5 is all it is suppose to be?
@Man o Man,
This is normal for software development. It’s not a black and white world, you doorknob.
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lol
I guess this means that Leopard is now ready.
“Will everybody now agree with what I’ve been saying: Leopard was not ready when it was launched forcing the largest public beta testing in the history of operating systems on any platform.”
Sorry Man, but I’ve been using OS X since it first came out, every single version and every single update. And Leopard was NOT a Beta in my opinion, any more than any of the other versions. None of which did I ever have a single significant problem. Glitches yeah, and some annoyances, but nothing I couldn’t live with.
You want BETA go take a look at VISTA because you are barking up the wrong tree!!
Now I want 10.5.3.
When is 10.5.3 going to be released?
funny Apple has pushed out 2 updates and poor ole vista just doesn’t know how to stop the bleeding. HAHA. Oh yeah my mac is much much snappier now.
Started download at 4:25 CST.
Took 7 minutes at megs down.
Reboot, download and all took 14 minutes.
7 megs down
sorry.
Yup – I was talking to my dad just last night about when to upgrade to Leopard and I told him – wait for the next update. Well, I guess we didn’t have to wait too long…
Mostly great stuff, but why the heck doesn’t this allow Time Machine to work with any hard drive plugged into the USB of an Airport??? (as also pointed out by Chris above).
I’m starting to fear that Apple is just doing this to sell its new Airports with Time Machine hard drives built in–not consumer-friendly, Apple…
Finder>List View!!!
I could kiss the feet of the man/woman/it responsible for that one.
Anyone else sit at the “configuring installation” screen for a long time before giving up. Why does it seem like Apple’s been taking cues from Microsoft on software update lately. I wish we could still get a “your updates are installed, please restart” prompt instead of a “please stop using your computer while we download and install this 180 MB file”.
In response to “Man o Man” and “Peterson”,
Like “auren”, I too have had OS X since within a week of its release. There has been nothing “beta” about my user experience on Leopard. Some occasional minor inconveniences, to be sure, but nothing as debilitating or maddening as what Vista users have had to deal with.
Just one example to jog your memory: the unending wait for file copies, moves or deletes in Vista (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/05/15/vistas_long_goodbye_continues/) – has Leopard suffered from anything remotely as crippling as this? No, it has not. And this is just one of many examples. Vista is the public beta masquerading as a finished product, not Leopard.
Furthermore, while Apple can deliver updates to OS X in a timely manner, Vista users are *still* awaiting the long-ago promised Service Pack 1. I’m far more comfortable with Apple’s approach to updating and patching their OS, than I would be with Microsoft’s current approach.
All working sweet as a nut after that upgrade…
Anyone know what the “Leopard Graphic” update was about? It came in after 10.5.2.
Nice to have my download folder in the Dock back!
180mb for me on a Macbook plus there’s a quicktime update too!
Downloading now!
I have been sending quite a few error reports to Apple since installing Leopard, but overall I think it has been fantastic and this update is making it even better.
Love my macbook Air, by the way.
Tell me this, has there ever, ever been an update to OSX, any version, that had so much that needed so much to fix it after its initial launch.
The answer is no.
Thought so.
My Harry “Snapper” Organ is snappier!
Remember the Graphics Update, too!
I am finding increased stability! In fact snappier stability all around!
And MOST of my little add-ons work. Most – but I shall wait – for the DEV Dudes and Dudettes to catch up…
Ahhhhhhh – life in the early adopter lane….
BTW man o man – quitcherbitchennonesaysyouhavetoinstallthelatestandgreatesttheseconditcomesout!
or
that that is is that that is not is not is that it it is
Please punctuate properly – by that time – 10.5.3 will be oout (Canadian for out).
Now don’t get all pouty on me – I am just having fun at your expense.
Oh, Snap!
My clapper is snappier, my crapper is crap-happier, my humor is slap-happiest, and what’s more, I feel the love of Mac-aholics everywhere!!
I swear.
@MizuInOz
Huh?
Strange Apple hasn’t yet improved startup time.
One thing I miss about 10.4 Tiger was the fast startup times. My Core 2 Duo iMac used to boot up in 20 seconds.
Now it takes 43 seconds to boot up. Why????
I perform the same maintenance on it as I did with tiger, I disable all junk programs to open upon startup.
@Lilochris
Just like anything Windows – apparently, the move complicated it gets, the longer it takes to reboot – the system has to go through about 10 million pieces of crap before you can start using your machine.
Get use to it.
My safari still doesn’t work with a number of websites through our corporate servers. But Firefox does.
Sometimes Apple is just not worth the trouble.
On my system anyway, Spotlight no longer spends several minutes thrashing the drive after startup, re-whatevering itself.
That alone is worth the upgrade.
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Download size fro the s/w update on my 24″ 2.8Ghz iMac was 180mb. The Powerbook G4 is 341
my updates were like 143mg and 48mg, not 300+ as above… of course, I didn’t make notes… but they were less than 300 mg for sure.
Ok, where are my stacks options?
<< “funny Apple has pushed out 2 updates and poor ole vista just doesn’t know how to stop the bleeding. HAHA. Oh yeah my mac is much much snappier now.” >>
@woot
This is NOTHING to be proud of. Apple pulled a Microsoft and did the ‘form before function’ bullshit. Hopefully they got it right this time. I have 4 Macs here- only did Leopard on 2 of them- then I stopped. Hail Tiger.
and yes… I bought the family pack.
Since I previously installed Leopard over my existing Tiger installation, I took this opportunity to do an “Archive and Install” from the Leopard installation disk, and then Software Update to 10.5.2. It was painless. Even though it was the 10.5.2. combo updater, it was still only 347mb. I was expecting it to be over half a gig. Everything working as expected.
<< “… but why the heck doesn’t this allow Time Machine to work with any hard drive plugged into the USB of an Airport??? …: >>
Good point- real good point- What’s with Time Capsule- OK fine, they’re including an internal harddrive in the “new” airport extreme. Wonderful. What about us ‘BETA’ testers who bought AE with a USB port so we COULD add an external drive. Where is the TimeMachine support for that? … at least tell us why.
This is as good a time as any to remind your friends that when the System update is installing, don’t stare at it. Go get a coffee or Dr. Pepper and only come back when you hear a “ding!”
If you watch it there will be a time when it doesn’t move for a while and your friends (not you of course) will be tempted to hit the restart button thinking the mac is frozen causing all kinds of problems.
Enjoy your Dr. Pepper, and your snapper OS X!
hmmm. safari won’t hide anymore…
MDN Magic Word: “done” – as in, “it’s done!”
shoooow
ssssshhnaappeeeeeee…
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mngh
red stripe
mmmmmmmmmmm
beer.
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Whew!, I’m glad to see Apple step back from our territory. 10.5 & 10.5.1 were encroaching upon our trademark features of crashing apps, kernel panics, inappropriate behavior and general bugginess.
I think Apple’s changing the Mac OS to act more like our software was causing the surge in Windows to Mac switchers- they felt more at home.
Boym that was close…
I was waiting until10.5.2 before buying Leopard. What is the best way to install from the options given?
This page kept freezing up Safari after the update. Firefox wouldn’t even start up. I had to boot from my other drive just to post this. Not a good start for me :o(
<< “Love my macbook Air, by the way.” >>
Ooooo- all your friends at Starbucks must be so impressed.
Holy CRAP!! Safari was running at dial-up speeds for me at times (on Comcast connection)…SOOOOOOO much faster, er sorry, SNAPPIER!
Repairing permissions still takes 5-6 minutes on both of my Macs, but goes pretty quickly for the lucky few. Weird.
I downloaded and installed the 10.5.2 combo update while simultaneously guiding a friend through the same operation on the phone. Both operations went smoothly.
Leopard Graphics Update transformed my 20″ iMac into a 24″ iMac.
downloading…downloading…downloading…
Started over an hour ago, “only” 55 minutes to go. Damn, this better be good!
<< “Leopard Graphics Update transformed my 20″ iMac into a 24″ iMac.” >>
?????
I feel snappy
And entrancing
Feel like running
And dancing for joy
Well, I guess it’s time to buy Leopard.
Leopard, as it was meant to be?
MamparA
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feral is Snaptastic! Yeah!
There seems to be problems using Linotype FontExplorer X with Mac OS X 10.5.2. There are discussions in the Apple forums about it. Once I quit FontExplorer, I had no problems loading this page in Safari.
But Rehab-no, no, no!
Kit-N: Try Leopard and you’ll soon realize that your Tiger days were wonderful and yet unfulfilled. At times, someone’s stripes are of a different color.
My internet provider (Pipex UK) chose the worst time to stop working properly and give download speeds maxing out at 10kB/s
🙁
And no Aperture support for the D300 and DX3. And within 5 minutes of me posting that on the Apple forums, my post was deleted.
I got 6 email alerts of responses. But on clicking that link my post was gone with “Error: you do not have permission to view the requested forum or category”.
Apple has become pathetic. My post was not derogatory at all. All I posted was I bought Lightroom over the weekend in order to work using my D300. DELETED.
Big deal. Now you can view a D300 NEF file in the Finder or Preview. BUT PEOPLE STILL CAN’T GET WORKD DONE WITH OUR COMMITMENT TO APERTURE.
Apple. I’m SO glad I bought Lightroom over the weekend. Adobe deserves the money. Apple doesn’t AT ALL.
Apple? The NEW Microsoft.
Damn, mozart11. That sucks. But Apple, the new MS?
Ive done the update to my macbook
Does not seem any snappier to me. In fact I dont see much of any change. And by the way, I have been using 10.5 since release with very few problems. I will say that 10.4 was more stable, but 10.5 isnt bad and 10.4 had been around for a while.
mozart11: You are absolutely right.
Action like that IS inexcusable.
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I have a direct line to Adobe but of course I couldn’t explain your case. Apple Engineers are going to have to the same problem.
Stacks are great now; thanks Apple for the “List” view and option to use the folder icon. It was the first thing I changed after the update.
I noticed that the new Time Machine icon in the menu spins when backup is taking place. Also, the desktop icon for a network drive looks different; it has three stick persons holding hands. I think I like the old one better (even though I don’t actually remember what it looked like). No big surprises, which I suppose is a good thing for an incremental OS update.
“Its not unusual to be loved by anyone
Its not unusual to have fun with anyone
But when I see you hanging about with anyone
Its not unusual to see me cry,
Oh I wanna die
Its not unusual to go out at any time
But when I see you out and about its such a crime
If you should ever want to be loved by anyone,
Its not unusual it happens every day no matter what you say
You find it happens all the time
Love will never do what you want it to
Why cant this crazy love be mine
Its not unusual, to be mad with anyone
Its not unusual, to be sad with anyone
But if I ever find that youve changed at anytime
Its not unusual to find out that Im in love with you
Whoa-oh-oh-oh-oh”
– Tom Jones
10.5.2 has has mind entire adobe creative suite non responsive!! anyone else?
My spinning beachball is snappier! And my Dock has a heirarchical view again!
On the other hand, Safari crashed twice while trying to access Care2.com. I hope I don’t have to go to Firefox–or, if that doesn’t work, Camino. Safari 3.1, anyone?
Tom Jones had his chest hair insured with Lloyd’s of London.
wow thats a crap load of updates… Jake likes a lot!!!
@MizuInOz –
That that is, is. That that is not, is not that that is.
Okay, where’s my 10.5.3?
I have a dozen or more processes taking CPU time. This is more than previously (10.5.1) but not hugely.
Oh. Wait. Now there are fewer.
Sometimes Activity Monitor is a God-send, sometimes it just adds to the confusion. I have half-again as much Active memory now, as I had with 10.5.1 – and finally have a tiny slice of Inactive Memory showing. Disk activity has settled down.
Yeah … Safari hasn’t changed.
Dave
‘Tell me this, has there ever, ever been an update to OSX, any version, that had so much that needed so much to fix it after its initial launch.
The answer is no.’
True enough, but then again, there’s never been a version of OS X as advanced and full featured as Leopard. After installing the update things feel just as snappy as they did in 10.4.10! I’m a happy camper.
James-
Make that a SNAPPY camper!….
I was interested to notice that a time machine icon popped up on my menu bar next to the wi-fi icon and sync. That’s new.
I always liked the transparent menu bar, but under display I clicked the “make transparent” box and almost decided to go with it. It’s a cleaner, less cluttered look. In the end I decided I like the transparent.
the less transparent drop down windows are nice. I ne’er had a problem before, but it is better now.
Otherwise I notice no differences. But that’s good. Oh, to change your Documents and Downloads stacks do a contextual click and play there. Is the list view new? Seems like it. Personally I really enjoy the stacks and the fan, but if you change it from a stack to a folder you can hover files over the folder and it’ll automatically open them.
What would I really like? I have wished for years and years for even subtly moving desktops. Imagine a lake scene where the clouds slowly move and every once in a while a flock of bird fly by or a bee. The grass moving sometimes when there’s a gentle breeze… Wouldn’t that be nice? You could even subscribe to different location’s superHD streams… I would like this very much.
Even more so, I WANT TO-DO’s IN iPHONE!! Please somebody with magic hands snap your fingers and make this happen.
Ampar
No kidding.
I’ve been shooting in NEF & JPG because of this no non-support by Apple.. I am an Aperture only user. Was. I usually just shoot in NEF. But without Apple Aperture D300 NEF support I CHANGE MY SHOOTING to stay with Aperture. I kept telling myself today will be an update. Today. Today NOTHING FROM APPLE.
And Apple had over a year to prepare for the D300/DX3 files.
Where’s our AppleTV update. Where is Time Machine support for USB drives connected to the Airport n routers?
No. Apple decided to remove it in order to FORCE us who committed to the Extreme n router when first released.
I guess with all this “who cares about you users” attitude from Apple, it truly is making PC switchers feel right at home. After enduring the “f*ck you” attitude of Microsoft.
Apple’s new line? “How different do you think we are from Micrsoft?” NO DIFFERENT.
Heres how I think it will play out for the Aperture users. A PAID UPDATE OF APERTURE FOR D300/D3X NEF SUPPORT.
Shogun
That “active’ (for lack of a better word) desktop is available. I forgot where I saw it, but it had some ocean shots and a few others. Matter of a fact, I had the demo for awhile.
mozart11
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=306835
Shogun
http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/27248
@Shogun
Be careful what you wish for. The rolling scenery is a “selling” point for Vista.
mozart11
Chill!!
my XBench score went from 154 to 163,
What TowerTone is saying to you mozart11, is read before opening mouth.
10.5.2 supports D300 Raw files. BTW, the D300 was released in September 2007… and if my maths is any good, that’s quite a bit less than a year ago. And no, Nikon are not going to blab to all and sundry about unannounced products ahead of a launch, anymore than Apple is likely to do.
Grow up and stop having tantrums.
SWEET. Already installed it right after i got home from school. timed i perfectly. i also got my 2GB RAM for my iMac and it runs better than ever now!!! =D
It’s over 350 MB for the MacBook Air!
With the slow disk speed it is taking forever to install. Thankfully I ca complain via my iPod Touch…
Admit I haven’t used it much yet. But the install went smoothly. Download was fast enough, but I have a fast connection. Restart was fine. I left it all alone. Permissions repair took a short time and only had three items listed.
Of course, I haven’t used it yet…
I don’t know about anyone else, but Safari is definitely faster on my G4 PB. Even M.D.N.
@MizuInOz
That that is, is. That that is not, is not. Is that it? It is.
Work for you?
omg it made my mac pro run way worse!!! every time I try to launch a program I get the pinwheel of death! WTF my computer worked great before this update!!!
(posting from my iPhone because I can’t launch any programs now)
HELP!
When I installed 10.5.2 on my G5 PowerMac it got stuck on the blue screen with the wheel turning for about an hour. I finally powered off and back on again. It wouldn’t come up. I tried again and got stuck in a pattern of the computer sleeping about every 5 seconds. I finally restarted through the Apple menu and got a message saying the boot caches were updating. I clicked ok and the wheel started again. I let it go about 5 minutes and power cycled again. It finally came back up and seems to be working fine.
Anyone else have this happen?
I guess I’m blessed w/ my ’04 PB.
I NEVER have experienced any problem w/ an update.
EVERYTHING is FLYING!
and they just released a leopard graphics update
WTF, it’s doing it again. The fans kick on high and it puts itself to sleep every 5-10 seconds. AAAHHHHHH!
With this update, a BRAND NEW APPLICATION installed in Utilities – “Remote Install Mac OS X”.
I have no burning desire to double-click it, though if I did, I’m sure no harm could come of it…
I double clicked it. I have no fear of Apple products. It’s ONLY for installing the OS on the Macbook Air. I suppose that’s fair. (I had to share.) Does anyone care? I’m on a tear. No need to stare.
C. Saurus
I’m thinking ‘Air’….
Decided to update 2 of my macs; Macbook 2GHz and a 17″ iMac G5
Things went well except I’d really love to print to my HP Business Inkjet like I was doing… you know- BEFORE the ‘big’ update.
My Tiger machines are fine- they like my printer. My Leopard machines used to like my printer.
Unreal… Anyway- I’m sure ill figure it out- but not tonight.
Nice going Approsoft.
There seems to be font management issues now. I run LinoType Font Explorer as many creatives do to manage my massive font library. It allows you to deactivate the fonts you arent using so they don’t eat up system cash. It has other purposes too, but that is the primary one.
Anyway… It is set to automatically load at log in (so your system cash stays free). After this update if I have it running i get the rainbow wheel when trying to launch mail and safari. It never once had a problem before the update. (yes I cleared my font cash)
Rainbow wheels suck!
10.5.2 mostly does it for me.
Useless Stacks and Translucent Menu Bar:-– Fixed
The Software Update and Safari crashes on launch when attached to my workplace Windoze network:– Fixed.
I still can’t print out properly on my aging LaserJet 6MP, but I think I’ll blame Messrs Hewlett and Packard for that one.
Thank you Apple.
PS: WebKit sure is fast.
is this for real?
dang it, i was having about trouble with nearly ten things on this list and needed a reliable system for school and moved back to tiger… this morning.
This should have been a day sooner!!!!
still hasn’t fixed the stupid finder list view limitations
why have a search by size
and no results sortable by size ??
Jubei: Hmmmm repair permissions still take forever. Thought they would speed that one up on the next update. Or do we even need to run this permissions game at all?
I’ve only done it maybe twice after there was an indication that there was actually something that could use a repair (screwed up by third party installers). Otherwise it’s almost always just voodoo.
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Jake: Mostly great stuff, but why the heck doesn’t this allow Time Machine to work with any hard drive plugged into the USB of an Airport???
Probably because it is primarily related to the firmware of the Airport unit.
My ears have been burning all day!
@Zune Tang
“far superior Microsoft Windows Vista OS.”
PMSL – good one Zune Tang.
@Tommyr
‘ello, ‘ello, what’s all this then?
> Just one example to jog your memory: the unending wait for file
> copies, moves or deletes in Vista – has Leopard suffered
> from anything remotely as crippling as this? No,
To be fair, didn’t Apple have a bug when files were deleted in certain conditions when they were being moved?
ShelbyMac, did you reset the G5’s SMU?
Dearest Zune Tang,
Good to see you now know the difference between a Lemon and a Lemming.
Keep up the good work!
Installed it last night. All went as usual, no issues.
One thing I noticed right away when I went back to placing my Apps folder in the dock, is that in list view (the old Tiger method), it no longer cuts off the list of items at 256. It now displays all 350 apps in one helluva long scrolling list. Like I want.
Major disappointment: In list view of docked folders, linked sub-folders apparently cannot be traversed any more. In Tiger that was one of the main appeals: Creating folders with links to various places and then placing those into the Dock.
Now linked folders are just flat and can’t be entered.
Major bummer. It seems they were actually looking to keep it as stunted as possible even so. 🙁
That makes absolutely no sense from a usability point of view.
My conclusion: HierarchicalDock will have to stay in use even under 10.5.2.
It not only traverses linked folders but it also displays color labels and even the item count for sub-folders.
Apple deserves a kick in their behind for sloppy work like that – it could not be clearer that it was an orphaned feature they had no interest in themselves!
@TowerTone
Wow, thanks! I’ve looked before, but obviously not in the right way in the right places. I’m downloading right now.
@Ping
Are you sure that you can’t get hierarchical action from docked folders? I think check again. It works for me and I don’t even need the feature.
Shogun: Are you sure that you can’t get hierarchical action from docked folders? I think check again. It works for me and I don’t even need the feature.
Hierarchical traversal works in principle – but only until you hit a link to another folder. That link then just appears as a flat file (complete with tiny link arrow in its icon) but cannot be traversed (only to be opened in a Finder window).
Which basically defeats the purpose for me, as I use docked folders primarily for link lists to various places everywhere on my system.
I’ll file a bug report to Apple about it, but I would have much preferred it if they had got it right on the first go. Or can anyone imagine a plausible reason why a user would want links to folders not to be followed to the original…?
@ TowerTone
Ah, thanks anyway. What I want is not a screen saver but an active desktop image behind the icons and windows. Kind of a screen saver desktop image. I assume that it would take too much memory and processing power to keep going, but some day we’ll see it.
MW: looked
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My snappyness has improved 27%
@ Bill B
I am having the same issues with font management. As soon as I disabled my font management I was able to launch programs.
Unfortunately I am still convinced that time machine is only a good idea, but not practical, YET. I hate that I cant set a schedule for it to do it’s big daily backups!! I am a graphic designer, so I always have huge files open. I have 5gb of memory on my Mac Pro and I use the firewire 800 into a super snappy OWC Raid drive. Even still… When TM starts its backups my computer haults to a stand still. To the point I have to just walk away from the project I am working on. Its a major pain in my a$$!
I really hoped apple would address this ad give more preference capabilities to TM.
Shogun
Look again. I believe that is what it does. They call it a cross between a screen saver and desktop as a description. It is resource hungry, but it can be turned off easily.
But the thing I like about sites like that is the user comments sometimes lead me to a better solution. There is an application named in one comment that allows you to make your own, but it is not ready for Leopard. Might be worth watching.
http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/32910
@ChunkyB
Don’t get in a hurry and bail out on install (or a troubleshooting reboot, or Safeboot either).
Just hit install, type your passwords and go do something else. Why does everything have to happen in 15 sec or people cancel out. If you come back in the extreme of 15 MINUTES and it’s not responding then hold in the button and reboot. Sometimes the system is DOING something important and needs a bit of extra time on a particular computer.
Such an impatient world.
@MikeR
I always run Disk Utility Repair Permissions before I load anything. Also, if you have Disk Warrior I run that as well, so everything is as perfect as I can get it. Then I do an Archive and Install. If going from Tiger to Leopard and you are really confident, you could back up your stuff in Tiger, do a fresh install of Leopard and mover your things over. However, I’ve had good luck with Archive and Install if you don’t have a lot of ancient crap that you would like to see gone forever.
I’ve considered doing an Archive and Install on my home Mac still running Tiger, then backing up using Time Machine, THEN reload Leopard clean and try the files transfer so if I screw up Time Machine can save my ass. : ) Love Time Machine, already saved me at work last week.
P.S. but back up in some manner before you try any type of upgrade, Arcive and Install or any manner. Best to be safe than sorry.
In any tech product there are trade offs that have to be made when releasing. Leopard was delayed twice because of resource contraints to launch the iPhone but the version that was released last October was 99.5%. 10.5.2 and the video update went off without a hitch for me (iMac 2.8) and my Internet connection seems to be a lot faster now then before.
There is no doubt that Leopard is the best OS on the market right now hands down but with Apple picking up market share in the OS environment one has to wonder if they have the resources they need to continue the evolution. There are Mac people out there who look at 10.5.2 as the missing piece from Leopard and feel that Leopard was not ready for prime time back in October. As Apple continue to diversify its business I believe that there should be more emphasis on OSX. Vista is a huge dissappointment and Apple now has a chance to continue to make huge inroads into the PC market. However, with increased customer base Apple will also face the challenge of maintaining there award winning customer service while growing.
The media is right..Apple OSX works better then Vista and is easier to use. With innovation comes the responsibility of continuing to innovate. I believe they can maintain their position as the worlds best PC maker but maybe Apple will need to spend some of the money that they have in the bank on a lot more developers to keep OSX strong and ensure that every release has limited “trade offs”.
Upgrade to 10.5.2 was quick and easy for me. Goodbye silly stacked icons and opaque menu bar.
@Tom V
I agree about time machine. I wish I could adjust how often it backs up. I end up turning it off a lot. One time, at night, would be fine by me.
Still no support for the Adaptec 2906 SCSI card.
If I remember correctly, 10.5.2 is supposed to contain about 130 fixes. In case you think that is a lot, Vista SP 1 is going to contain over 550.
Last post?
@mozart11:
If you quit your bitching maybe Apple will give you Aperature 2 for free since they just updated it. Or maybe they’ll just make you pay the $99 upgrade fee if they read MDN.
@Dick: I don’t like to be the bearer of bad news but, I would not expect to ever see support for the 2906 SCSI card unless Adaptec puts out some kind of firmware update. That card is at least 8 years old if not more. I know this because I used to install them in blue and white G3s and early G4s back in 99 or 2000 and I believe the card had already been around for awhile. I would strongly recommend replacing the card. I know it’s a pain but it’s probably your best bet.
Why did my 10.5.2 download only come in at 180 megs?
I thought it was supposed to be 380…
Once it unpacks you will get the full download. I wish every upgrade was as easy as an Apple upgrade
“Desktop
• Addresses legibility issues with the menu bar with an option to turn off transparency in Desktop & Screen Saver preferences”.
?? Everything else fine but for the life of me I can’t find this option. Desktop & Screen Saver preferences seem to be exactly as they were before. Am I missing something? Would like to remove menu bar transparency with certain desktop pictures but can’t see how… Help!
‘why have a search by size’
There are lots of reasons that this can come in hany. If something unknown is hogging hard disk space, for example, this is an easy way to find the culprit(s); media files are tend to be titanic and it’s handy to see what is taking up how much space in that regard if one has a lot of media on their machine (I have thousands of photographs and movies on mine, my iTunes library is full of heft); etc., etc. My Mac is my professional machine (obviously my work requires a lot of media) and I do need to locate things on it quickly; the more options for this, the better!
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knowhowe: ?? Everything else fine but for the life of me I can’t find this option. Desktop & Screen Saver preferences seem to be exactly as they were before. Am I missing something? Would like to remove menu bar transparency with certain desktop pictures but can’t see how… Help!
It’s a new toggle switch at the bottom of the “Desktop” tab (“Translucent Menu Bar”), but only in the panel appearing on the main screen, apparently.
Have you installed the Leopard Graphics Update as well?
I’m not liking in on my G4 Powerbook. Airport signal strength is still about 30% weaker than in Tiger, and it’s running a lot hotter, to the point the fan kicks in, a little above 122º. Now back in Tiger, 108º. What the hell’s going on under the hood to heat it up so dramatically? I’ll have to do some investigations with the activity monitor, like that will do any good.
Another disappointment – I’m not able to get the etc/hosts hack to work in the Terminal. I’m not able to paste anything in to pico. Oh well…maybe 10.5.3 will be better.
Finder:
List View:
TO VIEW BY SIZE – hit “apple” + J and click on the “size” checkbox.
BAM! It’s added to your list view… Problem solved.
Web pages load much faster than before, but it still drops my wifi connection at various times. Grr.
Ok here is my latest .02 on this update.
I was having major problems with font management after the update. I run LinoType Font Explorer (as many creatives do) to wrangle all 7,000+ fonts on my machine. It allows you to deactivate all the fonts you arent using so it doesn’t eat up system cash/memory. It is set to automatically launch on boot up.
I found that after the 10.5.2 update I was gettign the spinning pinwheel of death every time I would try to launch a program. As soon as I deactivated LinoType Font Explorer the programs would launch and work fine (but now 7,000+ fonts were active slowing the machine down considerably)
LinoType just released an update to the software to make it wrk properly with the 10.5.2 update yesterday afternoon, so everythign is runnninf smoothly again.
BUT… Time Machine still sucks (until they give you preferences for scheduling your backups…i.e. not while I am in the middle of working)
Tom V: BUT… Time Machine still sucks (until they give you preferences for scheduling your backups…i.e. not while I am in the middle of working)
If you have very large working directories changing often, you could either switch off automatic backup and start it manually whenever there’s an opportunity for it (now through the menu bar item as well), exclude your working directory from Time Machine backups or you could modify the backup intervalls by fiddling with the plist file according to this hint:
macosxhints.com – 10.5: Set the Time Machine backup interval
Just beware; Be exceedingly careful with modifications like that!
Headline should read:
Mac OS X 10.5 Beta is released for testing
Always, always wait for V3 before seriously considering upgrading.
Did you all notice that they fixed the Stacks issue to now allow folder view (rather than content view) and hierarchical list views? Sheesh, after all the complaining (by myself as well), you’d think there’d be dancing in the streets.
Grrrilla: Did you all notice that they fixed the Stacks issue to now allow folder view (rather than content view) and hierarchical list views? Sheesh, after all the complaining (by myself as well), you’d think there’d be dancing in the streets.
There might be – if they hadn’t screwed it up again (see above).
Everything else fine but for the life of me I can’t find this option. Reply to Ping:
“Desktop & Screen Saver preferences seem to be exactly as they were before. Am I missing something? Would like to remove menu bar transparency with certain desktop pictures but can’t see how… Help!”
It’s a new toggle switch at the bottom of the “Desktop” tab (“Translucent Menu Bar”), but only in the panel appearing on the main screen, apparently.
Have you installed the Leopard Graphics Update as well?
Yes, update installed but I repeat that no such toggle switch appears where you say it should, only the ‘change picture’ and ‘random order’ checkboxes as before.
You will NOT have the toggle switch option if you do NOT have supported hardware.
G4 machine? Unsupported.
Intel machine? Supported.
@knowhowe
I have the same issue concerning Desktop & Screen Saver preferences, i.e no new menu for setting menu bar transparency. As I am on an old G4 PPC, I wonder if this feature is meant only for Intel macs.
Mmmh… I should have read cartoonasaurus’ reply before posting. Thanks for the info.
Rip0ff: I have the same issue concerning Desktop & Screen Saver preferences, i.e no new menu for setting menu bar transparency. As I am on an old G4 PPC, I wonder if this feature is meant only for Intel macs.
No, I’m running Leopard on a PowerMac G5 and I’ve got the switch.
Is the menu bar transparent on your G4 right now?
Nope, it has never been transparent in fact (Dual 1.25 GHz PowerPC G4)…
Seems the issue come from the ATI Radeon 9000 Pro card which cannot display a translucent menu bar… So far so good as I would have hated it.
Rip0ff: Seems the issue come from the ATI Radeon 9000 Pro card which cannot display a translucent menu bar… So far so good as I would have hated it.
That could be the case… so Leopard apparently doesn’t want to bother you with an option that wouldn’t work on that system anyway.
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@ Ping
Thats useful! I appreciate the tip.
10.5.2 broke my use of password to wake my MBP from sleep. In other words waking my Mac from sleep using the Password security option, my password no longer functions. Also Caps Lock and Num Lock are lighted at log-in and shows off in the log-in dialog, but shows on in the log-in dialog when the the keys are unlighted.