“The stability and performance of Time Machine, Apple’s easy-to-use backup software included with Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard, remains one of the final focus areas for testers evaluating the company’s impending 10.5.2 operating system update,” Slash Lane reports for AppleInsider.
“Following up on build Mac OS X 10.5.2 build 9C27, which was released privately to developers last Thursday, Apple on Monday evening issued yet another build labeled 9C30,” Lane reports.
“Like the two builds that preceded it, build 9C30 is said to contain no known issues. According to those familiar with the distribution, it also tacks on three more fixes to an already exhaustive list stretching some 135 items long,” Lane reports.
More in the full article here.
Whoo Hoooo #1! I knew my day would come!
But is it snappy??
Wonder if 10.5.2 and Time Capsule will be siamese releases?
Snapy? I’d settle for it making samba shares visible and accessible in XP machines..
Let’s hope they’ve been able to get “Back To My Mac” to work..
The feature is pretty much useless right now.
My 1TB Time Capsule is on order with Apple. They state that it will ship by February 29th and delivered by March 6th. That is the time I expect the 10.5.2 update to be released.
And I’m hoping it’ll fix whatever is screwing the recognition of network proxies on my work iMac. I have to use Camino because Safari crashes on launch (didn’t happen under Tiger). Likewise with Software Update.
And good to see that Stacks and the transparent menu bar will now be options only.
I like Leopard, but I don’t think it will be really ready until 5.2 is released.
I can wait, as long as Apple gets it RIGHT!
I hope they fix the bugs in Automator that currently prevent the passage of string variables while running the rename finder items script. It amazes me that they broke that with 10.5 since so many folks use this feature in everyday workflows; at least in the digital media arena.
MW: “idea” as in, “Any idea how they missed this bug in QA?!”
As long as they take the dock back to something that is useful, rather than eye candy, I’ll be happy.
I am so sick of the multiple clicks, rather than a single right click I used to be able to do.
As has already been mentioned, all that matters is that i increases the snappy level. Snappiness is a very underrated quality.
Dag blasted glossy screens! Argh!
But where is my AppleTV update?
I told you 10.5 was a Beta…
Apple’s first set of patches (10.5.1) were very limited and the 10.5.2 update grows in size like Microsoft bloatware. If it gets much bigger they might as well hand it out on DVDs at Apple Stores like back in the day
I can’t figure out what you mean by “Whither 10.5.2?” “Whither” means “where is 10.5.2 going?” “Whence 10.5.2?” would mean “where is 10.5.2 coming from?”
(It’s good to know whence we are coming, whither we are going, and where we are.)
I think you meant “Where oh where is 10.5.2?”
“I told you 10.5 was a Beta…”
You’re so smart!
Sheesh… it’s taking him long enough. I only come here to read his witty retorts these days. It’s about all the fanboism I can deal with…
apple only lack one thing
DEVELOPERS , DEVELOPERS , DEVELOPERS !!!
repeat ad nauseum
To The Impossible Dream
I remember with my TRS-80, Tandy would send out letters telling customers about patches. We had to use the patch command and type in a bunch of numbers. It was the only practical way to do it in those days before the Internet and when 90K floppy disks were the latest technological marvel.
Nowadays, no one sends out patches that way. If they change three bytes in a 5 MB file, they recompile the whole thing, and the update replaces the entire file on your computer. That means that the size of the update doesn’t really give you much information. At best you get a rough idea of how many files they had to change, not how many bytes. It’s possible that 500MB update might contain a net 50MB of changes.
Knowing the size of the update doesn’t really tell you anything other than how long it will take you to download it.
To flappo:
Apple doesn’t lack good developers. What they have are good testers. To get the high-quality results we all expect, they have to do rigorous testing, and that is what takes time.
I sure hope it fixes the stability of Microsoft Orfice. I have to use it for work so I cannot consider options. Word and Excel crash every now and then. frustrating.
Back to Mac doesn’t work either so I upgraded my Timbuktu -leopard version because I couldn’t wait.
I’m not bitching though….It could be a WHOLE lot worse. I could be forced to use a PC for work but because of the nature of my work, the IT people tolerate me and let me use Macs. In fact the number of Macs here are growing steadily (almost 1/3 of the institute containing 900 people) but yet…get this….Macs are still not officially supported.
‘Whither’ means ‘where is it going?’
So the headline would mean, ‘where is 10.5.2 going?’
Surely, we know where it’s going – we just don’t know when.
How long until Apple patches that pesky Skynet bug that keeps sending bots out to kill me?
All you folks using Leopard on your single Macs don’t fully understand the pain of those of us trying to implement Leopard Server. Talk about software that was released in beta form!
10.5.2 can’t come soon enough for me. Let’s hope it actually allows me to log into Leoparrd Server without randomly deciding if it likes my user name and password today. (It really does that in its present form).
Just to add to Derek from Lindfeld:
We know whence 10.5.2 is coming (from Apple) and we know whither it’s going (to us) and we know where it is NOT: on our Macs.
The real question is: When 10.5.2?
it’s strange that people don’t erase and install and then wonder why there’s bugs.
to herkimer
that was a
joke
hmm. fix:
automator
hide mail on startup
stacks
i want my, i want my, i want my appletv (update)…
mdn magic word: district. as in, i live in the district of columbia
I sure hope 10.5.2 RETROACTIVELY fixes what was broken
– by Leopard update from 10.4.x.
– WORSE: by Leopard archive and installs on top of 10.4.x
(Both involve patching user settings, such as group IDs and permissions)
I hope one of the fixes is for the crop amounts in PS3. This is becoming a real pain not being able to reliably change the crop numbers in PhotoShop.
John Connor, LMAO! Thanks
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Glad I only put Leopard on my Macbook, My G4 Mini won’t get Leopard, I’m keeping Tiger on it!
I would have to say that this is the last time i purchase a new operating system when it first comes out. Tiger is more stable at this point and has always been a top notch OS. Leopard on the other hand has been nothing but network problems galore.
Not happy right now…they are trying to fix to many issues that should have been ready before the release of Leopard.
Please apple, don’t promise what you can’t deliver. If we want that we can go buy a piece of crap PC.
I could add more than a few items to the fix 10.5 to do list. Spotlight is slower and LESS accurate. For $129 no less. Front Row does not recognize file types that Quick Time Pro will play- how’s that for integration and utilizing core video.
Steve, stop playing with phones and fix this unfinished OS.
I have 2 issue to be fixed in 10.5.2
Photoshop CS3 does not work well with Leopard. The crop tool corrupts numbers when entered – can you imagine anything more basic to photo work than the crop tool???
And – the Adaptec SCSI cards will not work with Leopard. Many older scanners are now paper weights. I boot up an old G4 with Tiger just to scan negatives.
10.5.2 is WAAAY overdue.
Mac sales are up, iPhone sales aren’t that great, iPods are flattening out.
Please, please fix this beta OS you kicked out on the street like a bar-fly sleepover.
Whither atrophy?
TimeMachine has worked like a champ for me. It even saved me from the horrid “Parental Controls = disappearing Widgets” bug, which really honked up my home machine, and no amount of tinkering could repair. That being said, the two times I’ve needed Time Machine have been due to OS bugs. :-((
This is really the best OS, yet, but I still hate Spotlight’s new “view all” window (doesn’t remember it’s size and won’t show me enough file attributes such as size) and the QuickLook window, since it’s floating on the top level, should close with Apple-W or ESC. Can’t tell you how many times I’ve closed the underlying window by hitting Cmd-W. I hate having to click to dismiss it. Fingers crossed they’ll address these minor cosmetics!
On theupside, I’ve quite a few clients who have been eager to upgrade to Leopard but are waiting for this bugfix.
After all the problems with Leopard I’m so glad I downgraded to Tiger when I bought an Intel iMac. It was money well spent. I have no problems with Tiger, none at all.
>After all the problems with Leopard I’m so glad I downgraded to >Tiger when I bought an Intel iMac. It was money well spent. I >have no problems with Tiger, none at all.
OK. But, Leopard’s Time Machine saved my butt when a hard drive crashed here.
Time Machine is worth the many small problems with 10.5. And I hope that 10.5.2 fixes them.
Dick
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Again, all these problems with Leopard? Not saying they aren’t real, but I must concur with earlier advice to do a clean install. Furthermore, if you clone your Tiger drive before wiping it, you can use Migration Assistant afterward to move your data back. I’m a developer and a power user. My life is my MBP. I’ve got cron jobs, Applescripts, shell scripts, you name it on top of around 300 apps, utilities (including those with OS X). I bought Leopard the day it came out and did a standard upgrade. Actually went very well. No errors during install. But I had a few programs that threw a few errors occasionally over the next week and after examining the logs found that there were some remnants of Tiger there and thought it best to bite the bullet and do a clean install. Man was it beautiful!!! I couldn’t believe it imported all those programs and settings flawlessly. I had to wait for a few programs to update to Leopard like SuperDuper but I had substitutes (thanks CCC and Time Machine). I did have issues with Parallels until the workarounds were released a couple weeks into November.
But I must say, I had no issues with any of the built in programs like Mail or Time Machine or Spotlight. All worked wonderfully for me right away (and better, faster than ever).
It IS a good idea to inventory your software before upgrading to make sure that mission critical apps are Leopard-ready. That can be a deal breaker! In my case, I was good to go from Day 1.
To prospective upgraders to Leopard: this isn’t Vista. You can upgrade once your apps are ready.
>Again, all these problems with Leopard? Not saying they aren’t >real, but I must concur with earlier advice to do a clean install.
I did the clean install – and still photoshop CS3 cannot understand inputs for cropping or getting the print size correct. And my Adaptec SCSI card will NOT work with Leopard.
Where is 10.5.2 – or, for that matter, a new series of monitors. They are all 4 years old and outdated.
Apple is too much in love with gizmos, TVs and iPhones – the real core of the computer business seems to be on hold.
Dick