iMovie requires a Mac with an Intel processor, a Power Mac G5 (dual 2.0GHz or faster), or an iMac G5 (1.9GHz or faster).
This marks what is perhaps the first instance of Apple dropping G4 support in a consumer application.
The rest of the iLife ’08 suite will run on G4 Macs, at least as far as Apple’s official requirements state:
• Mac computer with an Intel, PowerPC G5, or PowerPC G4 processor.
• iMovie requires a Mac with an Intel processor, a Power Mac G5 (dual 2.0GHz or faster), or an iMac G5 (1.9GHz or faster).
• iDVD requires a 733MHz or faster processor.
• 512MB of RAM; 1GB recommended. High-definition video requires at least 1GB of RAM.
• Mac OS X v10.4.9 or later.
• 3GB of available disk space.
• DVD drive required for installation.
• QuickTime 7.2 or later.
• Other configurations may be supported. AVCHD video and 24-bit recording have additional requirements. Visit iMovie ’08 Camcorder Support for more information on AVCHD.
• 24-bit recording in GarageBand ’08 requires a Mac OS X compatible audio interface with support for 24-bit audio. Please consult the owners manual or manufacturer directly for audio device specification and compatibility.
• Burning DVDs requires an Apple SuperDrive or compatible third-party DVD burner.
• iPhoto print services are available in the U.S., Canada, Japan, and select European countries. Internet access required; fees and terms apply.
• iWeb requires Internet and web server access (.Mac recommended).
Some features in iLife require .Mac. The .Mac service is available to persons age 13 and older. Annual membership fee and Internet access required. Terms and conditions apply.
More about iLife ’08 here.
[Thanks to MacDailyNews Reader “Ian” for the heads up.]
That’s bullshi*… I can’t run the new iMovie on my Apple IIe
Lets all blame the Apple Engineer that wrote it, DAMN HIS VACATION!!!! If he never went he would have never wanted to make a movie in under 30 min!!!
Uh oh, the viability of my machine is finally waning. If I were losing support for an app that my wife uses, I could probably order a new iMac today. She, however, does not use iMovie. Bummer.
Yes and my old “turbo 10 PC” will not run windows XP
People with a G4 it’s time to upgrade.
Out with the old and in with the new, thats what I say!
im gonna trash my G5 Power mac soon anyone want to buy it?
Its the minimum required here, i wonder if it will work here.
Notice, only Dual processor G5 power macs will work, not single.
I do love the fact that Macs are still useful even after many years.
But come on my fellow Mac enthusiasts…if you have a G4, it’s time to upgrade. The new iMac is only $1200. The Mini is way less than that. Both are much faster than your G4 tower.
It’s time to let go. Either that or don’t use the new iMovie.
I know progress is inevitable but this does kind of suck. I have a Power book G4 that has been my main home computer. Now if I want to make movies I will have to go to the office and use the Power Mac.
Oh well, guess it is time for an upgrade anyway. I’ve had the Powerbook for 3 years. Thats 2 more than I ever kept a PC.
There is more to the story. From what I read the new iMovie is supposed to be quite bad for editing, a step downwards. People compare it even to MovieMaker. Seems like a bad decision Apple made. I wouldn’t mind having an iMovie that manages movies like iTunes does with music but please don’t get rid of all the easy to use editing features!
Thorin
just curious, as a non-married person myself … do you think comments like the one you posted reflect well on your marriage?
honest question, really.
Markim:
I don’t think Apple has thrown away any editing features. Care to elaborate on what’s missing in iMovie 08?
Come on everyone – those saying you have to get rid of your G4s and upgrade. I am terrible also for buying the latest stuff I possibly can, so I won’t have any problems with this version of iMovie. But there are many many people (others in my family for example) who still use perfectly serviceable PowerBook G4s and QuickSilver G4s, etc. They should be able to edit movies too (they have been able to up till now).
So here’s what Apple should do/have done. They should include iMovie 6 and call it “iMovie Classic” or something, so that people with G4s (and even G3s) can continue to make great content with their great Macs.
/my2c
As you say, you are a non-married person. As I say…. obviously, you are a non-married person.
“just curious, as a non-married person myself … do you think comments like the one you posted reflect well on your marriage?
honest question, really.”
We have a great marriage, but she takes care of most of the money issues. A purchase that large would be collaborative. I wouldn’t just run out and buy one, that would be disrespectful. So, yes, she would need to be on board with the decision.
“Yes and my old “turbo 10 PC” will not run windows XP
People with a G4 it’s time to upgrade.”
Yes, I know it’s time to upgrade. I wasn’t complaining, just giving in to the reality of what you said. I take pride in the fact that my machine has been totally viable for 6 years with no problems. Peace.
and who said it was bad for editing? Have you used it? Is this first hand? Stop talking about things that you do not know rotry and start a rant by many people. Frigtard
Well it doesn’t support G3’s either—quit whining.
My G5 dual says it supports PCM 24 … I hope this means what I’d LIKE it to mean – a slight technical improvement in my pod casts.
Mike, sorry ’bout that, man. I didn’t even realize the old versions ran on an Apple ][e.
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I think it is stupid that I have Final Cut Studio 2 on my SP 1.8 PowerrMac G5 w/4 GB of RAM but iMovie 08 wont work on it. You can’t tell me that isn’t crazy.
M@C and everyone else,
I am sorry but this is a terrible decision by Apple. It’s not the desktops to think about but the laptops. Apple sold a G4 Powerbook up until the Macbook and Macbook Pro were released in Jan. 2006 (I believe). So, if you have a laptop older than 18 months – no iMovie for you! I guess my 1.5 GHz G4 Powerbook, which is less than 3 years old, needs to be upgraded??? That’s PeeCee thinking, folks.
“I think it is stupid that I have Final Cut Studio 2 on my SP 1.8 PowerrMac G5 w/4 GB of RAM but iMovie 08 wont work on it. You can’t tell me that isn’t crazy.”
My guess is that the skimming feature chews up a shitload of horsepower.
Believe it or not, not everyone who has a G4 can upgrade just because some snarky fanbois on MDN tell them that “it’s time”. Yeah, it’s only $1100. And you have that kind of money just hanging around, right? I’m not complaining about Apple’s prices, because they are reasonable for what you get. And I’m not complaining about iMovie (I don’t use it). I’m just saying that some of y’all need to grow up.
For what I do (graphics, web, IF, music creation), my G4 dual 800 is just fine. I imagine it’ll be fine for a good long time yet.
Ah, people, you do realise that the first gen G5 iMacs won’t work with iMovie.
They were 1.6Ghz & 1.8Ghz G5s. Only 3 years old too!!
Whatever,
Read the specs again. All G5’s are supported.
Time for those with a G4 to upgrade?????
Powerbooks were never available in a G5 version (if anyone remembers), and I’ve got a G4 Powerbook that I use for everything. It’s barely over a year old…….Why should I have to upgrade a $2000 computer that I JUST bought a year ago??
MDN MW: “things” People say stupid thing.
“Yes and my old “turbo 10 PC” will not run windows XP
People with a G4 it’s time to upgrade.”
You people don’t seem to get it. My Powerbook G4 is only about a year and half year old. This is ridiculous. Why would I buy the sweet if I can’t use the most useful program? Dumb move on Apple’s part. They just lost one sale.
Well, I have a PowerMac G4 (dual 1.42GHz) that I’ve already relagated to a server for storing video and my iTunes library, so it’s not as bad as it could be, but really, just disable skimming on the G4’s, it can still probably handle the rest.
Why don’t you read the specs again??
There are speed specs EVEN on the G5’s.
My PB 550 just became a paper weight.
Strike that. Change “sweet” to “suite”
Haha, wow. I feel ashamed now.
Rats, I have a G4 and just ordered iLife 08 and iWorks 08. And you mean to tell me that there is another reason other than ‘ I want to’ to buy a MacPro. I know a family member that will worship me when I give her my G4.
@ Thorin – I took my wife around the Apple store last weekend showing her what I like. Out of everything including the iPhone, laptops, and iMac (which we use in our biz ) she liked the MacPro the best. I did a double take to make sure it was my lovely wife.
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obviously not married.
to go out and do something like buy something without considering your wife’s feelings would be a sign of a bad marriage. The fact that he cares enough to take her feelings into consideration means he probably has a good marriage.
Bad marriages are ones in which each partner is too selfish or impatient to sacrifice something to make the marriage work.
on a mac note. This is a non-issue. People with G4s have at least one copy of ONE of the older iMovies available. It’s likely the new iMovie just wouldn’t perform well enough on the older processors. I tried using Gen1 iMac 1.6… and it was painfully slow to do anything in the current iMovie. The new one would likely be unbearable.
That said, Apple should let the user decide that, and not force their hand. Some people have the time to wait.
Well, remember, Steve did say that they would be phasing out support of the Motorola chips and it looks like this is the first step. I had a good run with my PowerBook. It started life as a G3 400MHz and got an upgrade to a G4 500MHz. Still runs great.
However, since Leopard won’t support G3s, I decided back in January to get a MacBook Pro (after almost 7 years, not a bad ROI). My brother loves the PowerBook and I’m ready for the new stuff.
For those who say, “Oh, just buy a new Mac!” I’d like to point out a few things.
The Mac mini went to Intel less than 1.5 years ago. Same with the MacBook Pro (shipped in mid-February 2006). The MacBook replaced the iBook one year and two months ago.
Tell me again how “Macs are useful much longer than Windows PCs.”
@wtf and Bill
Well for starters audio editing options have been removed so you can’t fade audio up or down. That’s clearly a step back.
iMovie has been simplified so that some things such as managing your clips have got better but certain editing features have been reduced or removed. Various video effects have also gone.
The new iMovie is now useless for most of my projects that are easily handled in iMovie 6 so it’s a case of keeping both but just using iMovie * for simple quick videos that require only basic editing. It’s a shame because there’s some cool features in the new version. Apple clearly want to sell more copies of FCE.
“The Mac mini went to Intel less than 1.5 years ago. Same with the MacBook Pro (shipped in mid-February 2006). The MacBook replaced the iBook one year and two months ago.
Tell me again how “Macs are useful much longer than Windows PCs.””
They are still extremely useful. Just because the new iMovie might not run on older equipment doesn’t mean that they are paperweights. If that’s all you bought your system for, iMovie, then you are working with the wrong software, you should be using Final Cut Pro.
However, if you bought it to use for lots of other things, then iMovie won’t kill you… Vista killed more than just one app… As you said, “I’d like to out a few things”…
Amazingly, I discovered that iMovie 08 runs just fine on my Commodore 64! Okay, it’s a little bit slow, but I’m sure it’ll be fine as soon as it finishes booting up.
This is too soon for a consumer product. G4 laptops, including my G4 PowerBook, (IBM was never able to make a G5 for laptops) are not that old.
So currently, my PowerBook will run Aperture, Final Cut Studio & Express, but not iMovie.
I’m sure that will change, but not for the better.
Cubert –
You know…you are correct. I am thinking a bit like a PC’er in those respects.
So the option is…continue to use your current version of iMovie. I mean…how much better can iMovie ’08 be anyway?
My apologies. I miss my 12″ PB G4. Wish I never sold it.
@Peter
Macs are more useful because they typically last 3 years before being outdated as compared to 1.5 years with a PC. This is a special case, however, because of the PowerPC to Intel chip transition. I’m not happy about it, as I bought my Powerbook G4 just before the MacBook Pros came out, but that’s life; you win some, you lose some.
It’s just lovely. I ordered iLife and iWork 08 before I checked the specs… apparently, my Wind Tunnel G4 (was dual 1 ghz, upgraded to dual 1.25 ghz, 2 GB ram, USB 2 & firewire cards added on, FOUR big hard drives stuffed inside, four wired up out side) just doesn’t cut the mustard. Ah well, I’ve been looking for an excuse to upgrade to a Mac Pro, but the transition is going to be a pain.
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G4s are old news and are 2+ generations old now. It’s time to move on to Intel…
If you ask me….all you non-intel Mac users are lucky Apple still supports any of those machines…….
Sometimes you gotta force change, ….progress. After all, they’re the ones that offer the support. Small price to pay for hardware that is finely tuned with the OS which leads to way less support in the long run.
I’ll reiterate what I’ve most read so far….wake up people, buy a new mac. Help Steve further Apple’s impending world domination….
Mike
This news is a slap in the face to current G4 PowerBook owners. I have a G4PB and like to use it to edit down my video content before bringing it home to my G5 Quad. I want the iMovie app to be the same on both machines for obvious reasons. Not supporting one of their own computers that is just a little more than a year old is just plain wrong.
@macstud
You sir, are an idiot. Most people can’t afford to buy a new computer ever 1.5 years, which is how old my Powerbook G4 is. Some people have an iBook G4 that’s just over a year old. You’re telling me you buy a new (Apple) computer every year? If so, I hope to one day be like you. But for Apple to cut off their PowerPC users would be ludicrous. One of Apple’s biggest markets are college students. That’s why I got my Powerbook G4. You can’t expect these students to be able to afford a new laptop every 1.5 years. Or do you? Wake up macstud, learn about customer service and think before you type, not everyone has as much disposable income as you do.
@JBC
Do you even know what you’re talking about? G4’s are two generations old on the desktop front, but on the laptop front, they are only one generation old. My Powerbook G4 was purchased brand new from Apple just one month before the MacBook Pro’s came out. There were no G5 laptops. iBooks were sold until just over a year ago, then upgraded to the Macbooks, which were Core Duo’s. That’s not a two generation gap. Think before you type about what you do not know.
So, just because Apple doesn’t support it, will it not install on a G4? I recall there being workarounds and/or daring people willing to go without support.
And who says a guy with an eMac can’t survive without using iMovie 08?
I’ve been quite happy with my G4. I only started using iMovie some months ago after I bought a DV Camcorder and boy is it slow…
I was planning on upgrading and with the new iMac, iLife 08 and iWork 3 and Leopard coming up, I think I’ll get myself a new Mac around the end of the year. I still don’t know what computer I’ll be buying though. I only know it’s very unlikely it will be a MacPro – too expensive – which leaves me with the iMac, the Mac Mini, possibly the MacBook and again, less likley the MacBookPro – too pricey.
Apple screwed this up big time. As has been noted, they should have included the iLife ’06 iMovie as well, since all the other apps will work on G4s. I’m perfectly happy with my G4 Powerbook and desktop, but I just got a digital camera capable of video, so I did not get iLife ’06 previously, been waiting for ’07!
Apple could redeem themselves by making iMovie ’06 available for download to owners of iLife’ 08, but being a large corporation they probably don’t give a damn about us little people who buy their computers in good faith.
Support for all PPC Mac will be ending sooner rather than later, I think. Leopard will probably be the last Mac OS X major release to support PPC Macs of any type. It’s like the 68040 to PPC transition; it didn’t take Apple too long after selling that last 68k PowerBook to go PPC only. If your primary Mac is a G4, don’t feel too bad. It’s already served you well for many years, and Leopard will be Apple’s latest OS from October for at least two years (probably longer). Even in the worst case, that’s 5+ years. If the new iMovie doesn’t work, use the old version. If you don’t have the old version, I’m sure iLife ’06 packages will be discounted for $29.99 from resellers very soon.
According to MacFixit, iMovie ’06 stays on your drive even after installing ’08.
I will up grade when I can get my new Mac with a read/write Blue Ray drive and not before.
I am wondering how long that is likely to be.
“it’s time to upgrade already”
That’s just an ignorant statement from an ignorant person. eMacs never went to G5 and they just stopped selling those within the last year, so the whole desktop/laptopo argument is a bit off, also
Let’s remember that one of the reasons Microsoft has so much trouble is that they think they have to have near total backward compatibility.
I’m sure Apple would like to be able to support everything they’ve ever made forever, but there comes a time when you have to start transitioning your software to make the best use of the hardware without regard to backward compatibility. It sucks for G4 users, but we knew when Apple started the Intel transition that these things were eventual.
Funny everone is freaking out about this. Anyone notice there are no trolls around?
Almost everyone who has Vista bought a new PC just to run it due to insane specs.
I respect the fact that if I try to run Gears of War on my 4 year old PC it will be out of luck.
I guess I don’t think it’s a big deal because my iMac, Macbook, and MacMini are all less than a year old.
Apple wants to sell more Mac’s, the old iMovie works perfectly fine for what it is. Still years ahead of Microsloth. Bask in it a little longer until you are ready to muster up the cash.
ALSO
My wife is also the treasurer. It is a group decision on almost all purchases. I want to mess up my bank account as much as I want to mess up my marriage…which is not at all.
What the fuck is wrong with these mutherfuckers? They drop G4 from _one_ app of the suite ???, and they did sell G4 equipped Macs no longer than 1,5 years ago. Some of the iBooks still have 1,5 years of Apple Care left. That should at least mean something them…
The next thing know is that iWork ’09 ain’t working, ’cause I have 32-bit MacBook. Then I’ll get mad. No iLife’08 family pack for me then, just iWork. iPhoto is actually the only iLife app that I use.
MW: dead. No shit. Apple should not forget, that for some people the first Mac is used one, not brand new one. So the official 50% goes to “new to Mac buyers”, can in reality be like 60-70%, and needless to say that it would be huge amount of switchers. The support for the old systems doesn’t only affect current customers, but some of the switchers too. And how the switchers feel about the platform is pretty important to Apple.
Difficult to be surprised…
Imagine the speedlack – lol !!!
“there are many many people (others in my family for example) who still use perfectly serviceable PowerBook G4s and QuickSilver G4s, etc. They should be able to edit movies too (they have been able to up till now).” —drmacnut
Duh… Like who told you that G4 owners can’t edit movies??? It’s true that they can’t use the latest version of iMovie, but hey—if you want access to all the latest software, you upgrade your computer once in awhile. Is that so hard to understand???
I still have a 12-inch G4 powerbook, which I really love. But it’s old technology, man. Get a grip.
A little off topic but I have an honest question that’s been bugging me.
Why do people want BluRay drives in their Macs? To watch movies on the monitor? For storage? I don’t see the utility.
Anyone?
That’s okay. My eMac didn’t want to play with your stupid iMovie 08 anyway. We’re rockin iLife ’06 ’cause we’re old school. iMovie you better check yo self foo… sorry just watched the SuperBad trailer. I’ll be annoying people with that line all day today
Makes one wonder about Leopard on a G4. Apple seems to becoming a tad entranced with all the money coming in lately and making questionable decisions about their core business. Not core anymore? Then watch out for outsourced Mac products which will lead to poor quality. Not every product is going to be as successful as the iPod and that will stop being successful at some point. Stop pushing the gimmicks Apple. None of your products is as important as the computer.
“There is more to the story. From what I read the new iMovie is supposed to be quite bad for editing, a step downwards. People compare it even to MovieMaker.”
really? how many people have you talked to that have already used it?
My G4 was painfully slow running iMovie 05 already. One of the reasons I bought the new iMac.
“….Why do people want BluRay drives in their Macs? To watch movies on the monitor? For storage? I don’t see the utility.
Anyone?….”
For those who have been around awile … you might remember that way back when … the CD player came out … it was pricy … I seem to recall, some were over $700 – $800 ….
Because it was new tech …
Fast foreward to today… The Blu Ray burners are “new tech” … and those people who are screaming for one for their computers — >>
Her ya Go
I want Blue Ray for storage now. Eventually, it would be necessary for movies as well. I would use it to preserve a record of photos. Now I use an external hard drive, but, I worry about it failing or being stolen. Having the huge capacity of writing to a Blue Ray disk is very attractive to me.
When deciding to upgrade one knows it is a moving target. What ever you buy you will have to live with for a good while as the current product continues to improve. For me, the new feature I want before I buy again is a Blue Ray disk writer.
Emotionally, I would like to upgrade now. I am waiting.
Thorin — thanks for the answer, that makes sense.
To the anonymous posters referencing me, i wasn’t suggesting that group decisions with your spouse or partner are inappropriate or a sign of weakness. In many cases people will say things like “oh, if only my wife would let me have one” which tends to make their wives seem like controlling shrews, as opposed to someone you’d want to marry. Since most husbands wouldn’t identify their wives as controlling shrews, i often wonder why they speak about them in terms which suggest as much.
On second glance, Thorin‘s post was more measured than that: he suggested he could justify the purchase if it served both of their needs, but that since she does not use iMovie, he cannot. As i suggested above, that seems great and evidence of a good marriage in which people are reciprocal.
Finally, marriage is no more a sign of personal success than is having children.
It’s not so much, “if you have a G4 you should upgrade to Intel” as much as it’s, “if you have a G4, you need to evaluate whether or not iLife ’08 offers enough incentive to upgrade to an Intel based Mac”.
Your G4, still does everything it did when you got it.
While the later PowerBook G4s aren’t that old, they were definitely an old architecture when they were being sold. The G5 couldn’t be used and Apple needed to switch to Intel to move forward.
The G4 just can’t keep up with the processing required for the new features of iMovie. It’s not that the G4 owners are being excluded as much as it is that new software is coming out that takes advantage of newer architecture.
It was only a matter of time before this would happen. I’ve enjoyed my G4 TiBook for many, many years though, and will continue to enjoy it for many more before I absolutely must buy new hardware.
So let me see if I have this right, Apple has decided to maliciously screw G4 owners by releasing new software? No, wait, it’s just the G4 owners who want iMovie 08? What about my G3 466 iBook SE that won’t run iLife 05 due to screen resolution? I was screwed and forgot to cry bloody hell! Calm down people, new software is usually for new hardware, get over it. Just because Macs are so well engineered they last for years doesn’t mean you own a permanent architecture. Relax and watch the plan unfold, Steve is just getting started. Our Great-grand kids will not know much about Einstein but they will know who Steve Jobs was!!!!!!!!!!
I was planning to upgrade my Mac Mini after Leopard anyways. By that time my Mini should be pushing 4 years…
So I’m pretty satisfied.
Let me get this straight.
If I install iLife 08 on my G4, will iMovie 06 still be there, and still work?
My PowerBook G4 is less than 2 years old. I plan to keep it 3 years before I upgrade (my contribution to the environment hehehe). I’m glad I don’t use iMovie…. but I will be buying iLife ’08 anyway.
>>”Uh oh, the viability of my machine is finally waning. If I were losing support for an app that my wife uses, I could probably order a new iMac today. She, however, does not use iMovie. Bummer.”
I find that funny because I’m in the same exact situation. I wish Apple would make iPhoto incompatible with G4’s…
@alansky
“It’s true that they can’t use the latest version of iMovie, but hey—if you want access to all the latest software, you upgrade your computer once in awhile. Is that so hard to understand??? … it’s old technology, man. Get a grip.”
You are right, alansky, and both you and I have a grip. My point was that Apple should include the last G4 version of iMovie (v6.x) in the iLife box anyway for now, until the last G4s are around 4 or 5 years old. This could hardly cost Apple much at all, and it would enhance the suite in my opinion.
Customers that want to buy the latest apps could spend their money with Apple and use the appropriate iMovie app for their systems. See how easy it could be?
It would also show that Apple cares about its existing customers which is good for customer satisfaction in the long term.
BTW, does anyone know what percentage of Macs still running are G3 vs G4 vs G5 vs Intel? I wonder how that could be “tracked” over time? Can/Does the Google search engine track this as it does with browser types and versions?
While I’m disappointed, I can’t say I’m surprised. My 1Ghz TiPB can barely handle H.264. I can’t imagine how it could manage AVCHD, etc.
>>”According to MacFixit, iMovie ’06 stays on your drive even after installing ’08.”
Continue to use iMovie ’06 for now — It’s perfectly functional.
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For Neomonkey…if you need iLife 6, there are plenty of copies on ebay
This sucks. I have a laptop less than 2 years and it’s obsolete? Most of the Apple hardware I have purchased in the past 2 decades I have used for over 5 years.
Shoot, looks like this is the end of the road for you, 14″ iBook. 🙁 To email duty and tech crew you go….
I’m not concerned.
My primary-use computer, since March 2005, has been my Powerbook G4-1.67 Ghz / 17 inch. This has been a FANTASTIC computer … probably the best-performing and most hardy Powrebook I’ve ever bought, and I’ve had five Powerbooks (145b, G3-266 Wallstreet, Pismo-400, G4-Titanium-500, and now this baby). She runs like a charm, doing everything that I use her for on a regular basis with very little effort: photo editing, audio editing, internet surfing, website creation, text-authoring and desktop publishing. She even runs iMovie and iDVD very well for the few videos I ever edit. She’s a little slow in the encoding department, but I’m not in a hurry … and I don’t do enough of that to matter.
My only problem is hard drive space … I MUST get a larger drive for this baby, and have been putting that off until October and OS X.5. I realize that OS X.5 will be the last generation of OS that will run on a G4 … but that’s ok. IF she survives in my service through that entire era, she will be between 5 and 6 years old by the time X.6 appears on the scene (assuming X.6 doesn’t come out until sometime in 2010. That’s a FANTASTIC LIFE.
As for IMovie 08. I plan on upgrading my office computer from my ancient maxed-out G3 Blue and White (with a G4-1000) to a MacMini in the next couple of months, and I should be able to use iMovie08 on that (if I want to use it).
as the owner of a 1.5 ghz pb 17″ i am somewhat disappointed. not enraged but I would have like to just play with the software, even if it was slow.
1) I don’t think they did enough to highlight this as part of the announcement. sure its in the requirements, but a lot of people will miss that I am sure
2) its a bit annoying to have people be so callous to say we need to upgrade to new software. I for one have used iMovie a lot on my current g4 pb, it seems to be fine. if people can use FCP on it, I don’t get why this would not work.
3) for those of you who asked, the installer does not even let you install iMovie08 on a G4 mac, so there is nothing to test.
@Markim @AJK
Ok so while I have not had hands on experience with iMovie as in iLife 08′
The article in the following link does clarify it a bit.
Info here
With a disassembler, a hex editor, and a little time, I was able to get iLive ’08, complete with iMovie to install on my G4 powerbook (1.67Ghz G4). It runs, but not particularly well.
The skimming feature is very jumpy (almost unusable). It appears that performance using HD video is a bit worse than with iMovie ’06.
@macsturd
“If you ask me…”
Nobody asked you.
MrMcLargeHuge,
It may be that you are the idiot. What is broken with your G4? What features of the current iLife suite are no longer working for you? Just because Apple releases new software doesn’t mean that you have to upgrade. The fact is that Apple has to keep pushing new products, both hardware and software, in order to gain market share and remain relevant to users. Apple has a long track record of doing more than most vendors to ensure backwards capability. Most of iLife ’08 works on your machine – on app doesn’t. So buy it, use iMovie ’06 and the rest of the iLife ’08 suite. Why do you feel screwed over? I have OS X 10.4 running on child’s G3 iMac 400 DV. I’d say that’s pretty incredible that a machine that came loaded with OS 9 has been able to handle 5 OS upgrades and still plugs along. Will it do Leopard? Probably not. But its rock solid now and until it stops functioning, why be concerned? Too many people are “upgrade trolls” and feel that they need to always have the latest and greatest. If that’s the case, sell your system on eBay or trade it in at PowerMax and pony up for a newer model. The cost difference won’t be that bad. Apple’s reputation for reliable machines had created a strong resell market for their products. Try selling a 2 year old Gateway PC and see what you get. Lighten up!
@R – With a disassembler, a hex editor, and a little time, I was able to get iLive ’08, complete with iMovie to install on my G4 powerbook (1.67Ghz G4). It runs, but not particularly well.
Thanks for doing that and letting us all know the results! Great work!
I suspect the real answer here is that they did not want to take the trouble to optimize it for the old g4 altvec. maybe g5 was above the bar but not g4.
It looks like I won’t have to buy iLife ’06 after all. Apple seems to have anticipated the iPhoto problem, but just now the news is getting out that you can download iPhoto ’06 for free from Apple if you have iLife ’08:
http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/imovieHD6.html
Oops, I meant iMovie. D’oh!
Check out http://www.teksanity.com/iMovie/index.html for details on getting iMovie from iLife ’08 installed and running on a G4.
well I do hope the new iMovie is better….
When I import a 3MB small 5 min movie clip, after some basic editing, I the have the option to export it compressed at 3MB = real crappy quality or 115MB with same quality as it was before…????
What’s with that guys… it is BS!
Or just hack iDVD 08 to run on the G4
http://www.teksanity.com/iMovie/iMovie_08_on_G4/Intro.html