“In a presentation to exclusively invited reporters Friday morning, Intel announced a breakthrough development in microprocessor manufacturing that may be given historical significance in decades to come: the discovery of a new molecular compound material that will replace silicon dioxide in microprocessors using 45 nm and smaller lithographies,” Scott M. Fulton, III reports for BetaNews.
Fulton reports, “It is what both wide-eyed engineers and anxious executives have described as the “Holy Grail of semiconductor technology,” and Friday morning Intel revealed it has developed working 45 nm processor samples running Microsoft Windows Vista, Mac OS X, Linux and other operating systems, where this material – a compound based on the element hafnium, atomic number 72, a frequently occurring impurity in zirconium typically found in fake diamonds – serves as the dielectric gate between the current source and the current drain.”
Fulton reports, “With the hafnium material serving as the gate, Intel will then replace the polysilicon electrode layer with a metal electrode, the exact alloy used here also being kept secret. As a result, transistors for 45 nm semiconductors starting with Intel’s Penryn family will be fabricated at half the size of those used in today’s 65 nm Core 2 processors. At the same time, transistor switching power can be reduced by as much as 30%, while still obtaining a performance improvement of as much as 20%.”
Fulton reports, “Intel’s director of operations for its Digital Enterprise Group, Steve Smith, told reporters to expect a range of five new products using 45 nm lithography to emerge from Intel in the second half of 2007, to be released for the desktop, mobile, and server segments probably the same way the company approached its successful Core 2 Duo rollout last summer, in the following categories:”
• A dual-core notebook processor with a 35W power envelope
• A new dual-core/quad-core processor family for desktops
• A new dual-core/quad-core processor family for dual-processor servers
Fulton reports, “The exact sequence of introduction will depend on customers’ readiness, Smith added. Later, he told reporters he cannot guarantee that every motherboard currently in production for Core 2 Duo and Core 2 Quad processors will support these new families, though it’s possible that some may.”
Full article, highly recommended, here.
[Thanks to MacDailyNews Reader “LinuxGuy and Mac Prodigal Son” for the heads up.]
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This is Da Shit. Good work, Intel. More for less is always great, not the least for notebook battery life and power consumption in our globally warming world.
Where are all the whiners complaining about the loss of the G5 and not going with AMD instead of Intel. Maybe now you nitwits will mind your business and stop boring us with your uninformed opinions. As if you know more than Apple and Intel. Get jobs!
Waaa the G5 is faster than last years Pentium!
Waaa the Opteron is faster than last years Xeon!
It’s so great, as a Mac user, to finally be able to hear about Intel’s chip breakthroughs and not have to mutter and grumble bitterly, like we had to in the PPC days.
Too bad that your understanding of eons of climate change is based upon a century of improperly collected data, untested assumptions, inaccurate models, biased conclusions, and a large dose of political extremism. If industrial production of 45-nanometer chips make you “feel” better, I suppose that’s a good thing. However, your giving up your precious notebook, and other electrical and electronic appliances; growing your own crops; and living in the New Dark Ages would be a more realistic testament to your adherence to your own beliefs.
@ Yours Smugly – right on
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@Smugly –
What rock did you wake up under this morning? And what does that have to do with price of hafnium, anywhere in the universe?
me:
IBM and AMD (working in collaboration) recently announced the same thing. They are also using Hafnium as the transistor gate. It’s not an “Intel-only” thing. In fact, and of course they’re going to tout their own product, IBM/AMD announced that comparing Intel’s Hafnium transistor technology and their own is like comparing a “can opener to a Ferrari.”
How’s that for some corporate trash talk??
The thing is, we just don’t have time to entertain the head-in-sand, Pol Pot anti-science wingnuttery anymore. They are wrong about everything anyway, and this is a particularly juicy case of not believeing what is before their eyes.
The scientific community is essentially unanimous in its conclusion about what is happening and the likelihood of dire consequences. The wingnuts love science when it’s good for them– i.e. when it can be bent to make them fabulously rich or kill lots of people–but when it’s used against their poliitical agendas, whoah nellie, it’s all lies without motives.
This will make the sluggishness that still remains in Vista go away
as far the users can perceive any differences between Mac OS X and
Windows Vista.
The faster the chips — and the more energy efficient the laptops —
the less important is good, efficient, optmized code for Office users
working on excel, word and powerpoints in the enterprise.
Office workers need to be productive, and only Windows can give
corporate employees the tools they need to do real world jobs with
microsoft Office Suite.
The speed up of Intel chips, which blurs the difference between good
code and good enough code will be the final nail in the coffin of Apple
never-ready-for-the-enterprise and the real world of Corp IT producrs.
The Zune phone will also rise and beat the iPhone on the bacck of
more energy efficient and faster mobile processors. The underlying
code may be a hack in 1.0 thru (Zune Phone) 3.0 but who cares if the
user interface looks like Vista, if it can open Office documents, and
if Intel new chips make it look to run as fast as Apple’s embedded
version of Unix running the iPhone.
Corporate leaders don’t want i-This and i-That; the brands that sells
in corporate boardrooms is Office-this, Office-that, and Windows.
Use your Intel macs to learn Windows and embrace the future: get a
copy of Windows Vista, and get ready for real jobs in the real IT world.
Both IBM and Intel have been working on high K gate materials for most of the last decade. Halfnium oxide is the one material that both concluded would work. It is interesting that they both announced their “breakthrough” on the same day….
– gws
hmmm… Never wanted a “real” job in the IT world… doesn’t pay sh*t.
Also don’t care what “enterprise” does. I want a computer that works, Windows isn’t it. Because of your “IT” guys, I have to use that crap every day at work. It really ticks me off.
However, Apple has found their market where they can thrive and be successful with a simply better product. I could care less about Windows, I can buy an OS that actually works.
– gws
“Too bad that your understanding of eons of climate change is based upon a century of improperly collected data yadda yadda blah blah loadsofwingnutnonsenseremoved”
Too bad that you’re dead wrong: I’m a geologist by schooling. And I will continue to enjoy using my MacBook, thank you.
another comment for “Powering the Windows Vista Empowering Revolution”
Faster processors, which will continue to get faster over time, will only make Vista suck….faster.
Intel will produce a cost effective chip based on tech in short order. It takes IBM and AMD together to less than equal what Intel can do. Obviously we will see how it pans out. I’ll put my money on Intel ALL DAY against IBM to produce efficient consumer desktop and workstation class products. ALL DAY.
They mis-stepped with netburst. They learned their lesson. And now they have real partner in Apple instead of a 3rd rate software company like MS. Look for the knockout punch to MS Windows coming soon to an Apple store near you.
Anyone who is a true beleiver in the utter futility and ultimate fatality of modern life’s conveniences would eschew the use, ownership, or application of any device, tool, or contraption that sustains the hypothesis of human extinction by petroleum-based living. The true believer in global warming would be the ultimate Luddite, basking in the glow of embers in his cave after a day of foraging for roots and berries.
No, instead the typical global warming hypocrite is fundamentally no different from the persons that he or she preaches to. Global warming advocates eat the same foods, burn the same fuels, wear the same clothes, live in the same homes, drive the same vehicles, and take the same medications derived from the same industrial corporations and consortiums that they condemn. Rather than work to find economical replacements for petroleum, these same global warming advocates can only rant and rave in a frenzy of delusional thinking based upon unsubstantiated worries and fears of the unknown.
Don’t think for a moment that a 45-namometer chip will make a significant difference in preventing “our ultimate demise”. From what I have read of the prophets of global warming, these minor changes in modern life will only delay the world’s destruction, not reverse the slide to extinction. Do the world a favor and find a solution that doesn’t require turning the clock back 1,500 years. I can assure you, few persons living in North America and Europe are going to give up modern conveniences for the New Dark Age.
@Powering
you could only dream Winfanboy. Fact is faster and more capable machines have always opened – and this has always been this way – new ways to use the computer and allowed to do more. It really shows – as usual – the lack of understanding Winfanboys have about anything serious IT.
Exactly the opposite: the faster the chips and more efficient the resources the more important is good, efficient, optimized code running on it. The sluggish mediocre will simply feel less sluggy but will not be able to provide more, while the efficient, optimized OS will allow to do much more with faster and more efficient hardware and the difference will be even more visible about what can’t be done in one platform wrt what can be done in another.
The speed of CPU never blurs the difference between good and mediocre code, on the contrary: it makes it even more visible as the mediocre code more and more becomes the bottleneck of the computer performance. Who cares if the mediocre code allows you to do the old job 30% faster when the clean, optimized one allows you to do 5 more task 30% faster that what it took previously to do one task, now almost in par as one task done by the mediocre code.
Zune Tang (or Powering): you still spout idiocies and again a proof that to be on Windows you have to be ignorant, moron, sucker and totally obnoxious. Did I say idiot as well? OK, here you go: what an idiot. Stick to Windows: you totally deserve it.
Hey buddy, get a clue. The only people who want Vista are pimply gamers and unwashed, uneducated greasy IT/haterz. And they only talk to other oily gamers/IT. Stand back, dork.
The average Joe no longer cares about Windows anymore. And it will soon be the butt of jokes. We are moving into the 2nd phase of the evolution of personal computing. And again it will be Apple that must show the way. This is the iPhone generation.
Can’t we keep the idiot politics off of this site? It pollutes too many sites and blogs as it is.
The big difference between Intel’s technology and IBM’s is that Intel’s is going into production very soon, while IBM’s is still in the lab. Both are great research organizations and make big contributions to civilization – unlike Microsoft’s “contributions;” idea theft, astroturfing, extortion against vendors, shoving garbage down customers’ throats, Microsoft Bob, … . When Apple was dependent upon IBM – and before that Motorola and Freescale – Apple could not get competitive products on time or in the needed quantities. Intel has its weaknesses, but it is great at device physics, along with IBM. And as far as volume delivery, Intel is nonpareil. Apple is teamed up with the best partner.
@Powering the Windows Vista Empowering Revolution…
You will need all the power you can get for chasing Vista-virusses. Don’t forget that in your unperfect Windowsworld!
With all your learning in geology, how do you save the planet from ultimate destruction? Do you find caves for people to live in? Do find places to drill wells for drawing water with a bucket. Seriously, what do you do that prevents the demise of humanity from global warming?
<b>Remember, if you’re not part of the solution, you’re part of the problem.<b>
Ten years ago my chemist teacher at university was working on a fiber-optic microprocessor with MIT professors. Strange? Of course the industry must adhere to Moore’s Law because profit plays a big part in what drives innovation and business. I don’t think I can hold off buying a new fiber-optic computer in 15 to 20 years. However, my Dual 2ghz PPC G5 is awesome. I still think this even after 2.5 years ownership. I could never say that about the Gateway PC’s I owned prior to 2004. After 6months ownership of a Gateway, I was thinking about how I would sell it on EBAY so I could buy another piece of junk.
MacDamnit will be on sick-leave for the next 5 weeks. Going to Rehab for MDN addiction. Yikes!
I would be curious to read your comments what defines “idiot politics” so as not to offend you. Or, maybe, by knowing what you consider “idiot politics” I know exactly what to post to piss you off.
Anyhow, I don’t think that your kind has the moral or legal authority to demand censorship of anyone here. So, kiss my dog’s ass. How do you feel now, canine rectum licker? I feel good and my dog seems to enjoy it, too.
Isn’t it funy how Windows fanatics always resort to asinine comments like the one above about canine licking… or more usually the ‘eloquent’ but moronic: ‘Macs suck’ statement.
All these statements say so much about how ridiculous Windows defenders are..
As someone said, all normal people are fed up with Windows.
There is more junk science in the Global Warming theory than there is in the Climate Change theory.
Climates are changing. Anyone who ventures outside and has lived longer than a couple of decades can see that.
As for Global Warming, how does any warming theory account for areas of the earth that are actually getting colder? Alaska is currently getting more snow in a month than they get in most winters. Only climate change covers that.
Many things cause climate change. Industrial carbon dioxide output is the least of these. Deforestation is historically very significant. So is volcanic activity, sun cycles, meteor impacts and the appearence of organic life on earth.
Drastic climate change happens with great geological frequency. Man has never been responsible in the past. To think that we must be responsible now is the height of conceit.
It is a big, complicated solar system we live in and man is a mere bit player in the solar echosystem.
I am a Windows “Power User”… The faster processor will help me play better games on my Windows PC… Macs suck because they don’t have no good games! And afterall, playing games is what us Power Users Do!!!!!
I don’t know how to do nothin else on a computer but play games so why would I want a Mac???? I’m also not interested in employment cause that will cut into my gaming time (plus there ain’t NO good job for “Power User” game players) MACs Suck. MACs suck!!!…
I will defend your right to post whatever you want. Still, I’m curious. When a proponent of your philosophy and intellectual persuasion uses pejorative terms, you consider this acceptable if not commendable, but when a person with an opposite view uses the same literary tactics you have the gall to criticize them. Explain yourself, hypocrite.
Also, describe how you came to the opinion that I am a Windows fanatic. I’m sure we would all like to read how you derived this conclusion with no supporting evidence, idiot.
Hey Powering, very funny. You sound like a corporate press release! The sad part is that literal thinkers don’t seem to “get” sarcasm and irony. So, I get a double laugh!
As for Global Warming/Climate Change… while there are incredible complexities involved and yes, there have been shifts in temperature in the past, none have been found to have happened so quickly… what is it 150 years since the start of the Industrial Revolution? It’s not all fossil fuel use, but deforestation on a massive scale around the globe., etc..
While you’re welcome to sit around and debate the when, why, where and who’s to blame of the situation… it’s idiotic NOT to take drastic steps to try and minimize the human/industrial impact we ARE making. If humans can manage to live more cleanly and efficiently, where’s the harm?
On a personal level, do we need to use a 2 1/2 ton vehicle to move 200lbs of gristle, bone and blubber a few miles to go shopping? It makes little sense to me. BTW: I do NOT own a car. I use public transportation, walk and bicycle. Whenever possible, I buy recycled, locally produced and organic products, with minimal packaging. Of course, it’s nearly impossible NOT to use mass produced products, but why not try to personally minimize it? It’s the smart thing to do.
I see little point in taking drastic measures to reduce a person’s carbon footprint. It only works when most people are participating – and that’s just not going to happen. We can’t even convince half of our population to NOT vote for a giggling, warmongering idiot.
BTW, I commute on a motorcycle on most days without rain or snow. Saves tons on gas. I believe a monetary reward is a far more effective motivator than trying to guilt people into conservation.
Back on topic, I’m happy Steve J. had the vision to switch to Intel processors when he had the chance. That’s why Apple needs him and can’t survive without him.
We can’t even convince half of our population to NOT vote for a giggling, warmongering idiot.
Boo Hoo, George Bush won’t tax working people to give me FREE Healthcare… BOOO HOOO, and rich people need to pay my bills, BOOO HOOOO…
I have important things to do all day like play computer games and type on message boards, (I don’t have time to work) and those conservatives won’t give me a handout… BOOOOO HOOOOO Vote For Hillary – She’ll tax those working people and give me money so I can stay home all day and pretend to be important on the Internet!!!!
Some people will not ride a motorcycle owing to the inherent risks to life and limb.
You global warming jingoists people really amaze me. You condemn Bush for his war on terror based on erroneous interpretation of incomplete information, yet you are willing to follow Al Gore and his mindless drones although the validity of global warming hypothesizes have not been properly authenticated with scientifically precise and unbiased data.
Bush acted on biased interpretation of faulty intelligence, but he did act in the best interest of people under the established threat of terrorism. However, having enough people voting for giggling, imbeciles that cannot distinguish between scientific evidence and fear mongering (e.g. Al Gore et al) is not likely to produce desirable results, either, regardless of the similar motivation to act according to “best interest”.
Yeah, you pseudo-scientists think just like George Bush, you just won’t admit it.
To all the *irony* poster. C’mon guys, it is now outdated. At first we had true moron Windows users. Now that they are gone under a rock you *irony* posters try to replace them. Get this: funny once, tired, stretched and botehrsome the next time.
Give it a break. We already have the same old soup of Zune Tang (a broken record). Now comes the PowerSimpleton.
YAWN. Like a bad bad comedian. Too bad I can’t throw rotten tomatos at your posts: now that would be funny!
@ that anonymous @-someone guy:
Science isn’t about politics or Al Gore. Just because something about science pisses you off doesn’t mean it’s “junk science”. Don’t politicize science. Thank you.
You mean, when you get your proverbial asses kicked with intelligence and logic, you bring out the “Stop it, we can’t bear it anymore.” rhetoric. Obviously, the only way to defend your global warming hypotheses is to cast dispersions on your critics rather than provide any supporting scientific evidence to your opinion.
Here’s something for you global warming pseudoscientists to consider:
http://www.scienceteecher.com/miracle.htm
Yeah, I know how pesky me and others like me are to get you people to defend your wishes to change the economic, political, and social structures of the world based upon your fabricated opinions. I just think it would be prudent to have real scientific evidence to justify major societal shifts in behavior before causing truly unintended and human-generated catastrophic events.
Let’s face it, you people made the “environmental impact statement” the legal requisite for private companies and governmental organizations before a single blade of grass was disturbed. Why don’t you people provide an “economic impact statement” to quantify the effects of your remedial steps to prevent your feeble predictions of human extinction.
If your only defense to reorganizing the social and economic structures on this planet is ridiculing your opponent rather than providing convincing evidence of the human impact on global warming, you really don’t understand the question much less the problem.
Seriously, who is politicizing the issue when critics of the scientific methods of global warming are treated unfairly by the Joseph McCarthy’s of your persuasion? It’s a real shame that your kind cannot “tolerate” the questions persons who do not share the same dire opinions as you and feel motivated to threaten others with loss of funding and loss of promotion. Not very scientific, is it? Seems more like political intrigue rather than intellectual enlightenment to me.
Yours Smugly,
So what exactly does Intel’s breakthrough have to do with the Dark Ages?
Other than the fact today’s processor engineering is barely above alchemy!
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Thing are getting wild when those fat bumbling electrons are considered a limitation…
Is there a real question or an intelligent thought amongst your gibberish? I can’t answer you, because I don’t perceive a coherent message.
They reinvented the transistor….
It called the iTransistor…Cisco will file suit on Monday.
Is there a real question or an intelligent thought amongst your gibberish? I can’t answer you, because I don’t perceive a coherent message
The pull your head out of your ass. It’s affecting your vision and comprehension.
I love the irony of certain politicians, who fly their entourages around the country & tell us we need to reduce CO2 emissions and cut oil consumption.
Whatever happened to “leading by example”?
If scientists knew that increasing CO2 would make the plant uninhabitable, where were the papers warning of this impending disaster in the 1970’s? Thirty years ago, the prevailing opinion was that global cooling was the greatest climatological threat to humans. As I recall, motorized vehicles and industrial plants in the late 19th century through the 1970’s generated far more CO2 than vehicles and plants today, therefore global warming should have been the real threat of human extinction. You pathetic people simply attempt to justify your feeble opinions with the flimsiest and most paltry data. Global warming advocates today are the same people 30 years ago who claimed that the next ice age was coming when CO2 emissions were essentially unregulated: pseudoscientists simply expressing the fear du jour, emotional idiots without a lick of scientific credibility, that’s all.
I like the way this person refers to us as you people, as though they’re from another planet.
What would you suggest, professor emeritus of English grammar? Apparently, if the only criticism that you have is my choice of words to refer to my adversaries, you must agree that my basic point that global warming is just another re-run of pseudoscientific nonsense that first raised it’s demented head in the 1970’s.
Tell me, does the use of an emoticon in your thread give you additional credibility as profound thinker, or rather, does it simply draw attention to your lack of maturity and intellectual sophistication?
AMD responded – saying they’re working on a “thirdnium” chip, and IBM has a forthnium process in the works.
Faster processors = more porn!
Careful, lad, you might have to endure the wrath of Macaday. Very intelligent comeback, for a moron, you’re not a moron are you? Too bad schoolyard taunts don’t translate very well to real intellectual discussion. Again, “you people” demonstrate my point that you really haven’t a clue about what it is you believe much less understand. In the face of real criticism, you fold. You’re out of your league.
Wow – looks like MDN is turning into Fark.com. How long before one of you conservatoads summons Bevets?
“Use your Intel macs to learn Windows and embrace the future: get a
copy of Windows Vista, and get ready for real jobs in the real IT world”
Because you need computers that work (the intel Macs) while you fix the ones that don’t (the one’s running Vista)
You guys are hormonal. Go get girlfriends or something.
And I quote:
When a proponent of your philosophy and intellectual persuasion uses pejorative terms, you consider this acceptable if not commendable, but when a person with an opposite view uses the same literary tactics you have the gall to criticize them. Explain yourself, hypocrite.
Very telling indeed.
You’ve attacked and insulted everyone here under a veil of anonymity! My, how valiant of you!
You’ve made no inquiries, nor have you asked anyone to clarify their viewpoint or opinion, which is the way educated people begin a discussion.
You aren’t interested in anyone else’s viewpoint and came here to hurl insults, didn’t you? Come on you can tell us, it’s okay.
Instead, you’ve made some lofty assumptions and have tried to impress us with your knowledge but it isn’t working. You want to know why?
People who don’t ask questions can avoid pursuing a deeper, more meaningful dialogue and reduce the risk of being exposed as a fraud. It’s obvious to me, and I suspect everyone else, your words are unoriginal and lack any spontaneity whatsoever.
In fact, your arguments are woefully misplaced. Perhaps you would be better served if you took your scholarly diversions to the Free Republic where you can commiserate with others who won’t ask questions.
We confide in our strength, without boasting of it; we respect that of others, without fearing it. — Thomas Jefferson
“…[A] metal electrode, the exact alloy used here also being kept secret.”
Unlike Intel’s graphic showing their “metal electrode,” it is a two-layer affair. As for how it’s been “kept secret,” one of their recent patents reveals the electrodes general construction:
Patent No. 7,153,784: Method for making a semiconductor device having a high-k gate dielectric layer and a metal gate electrode
Claim 4. The method of claim 1 wherein the first metal layer comprises a material that is selected from the group consisting of hafnium, zirconium, titanium, tantalum, aluminum, and a metal carbide, and the second metal layer comprises a material that is selected form the group consisting of ruthenium, palladium, platinum, cobalt, nickel, and a conductive metal oxide.
Claim 5. The method of claim 1 wherein the first metal layer comprises a material that is selected from the group consisting of ruthenium, palladium, platinum, cobalt, nickel, and a conductive metal oxide and the second metal layer comprises a material that is selected form the group consisting of hafnium, zirconium, titanium, tantalum, aluminum, and a metal carbide.
Too bad schoolyard taunts don’t translate very well to real intellectual discussion.
Niether do anonymous posts on an obscure forum from some elite asshole like yourself.
I won’t even try to level with you, because you clearly have no depth of understanding, or capability of “intellectual discussion”. Nice try at elitism; you’re just an ADD teenager who’s spent too much time in the dictionary. Does your mommy know you’re online?
MDN really needs verified user accounts. It’d ferret out the crackpots, and likely show there’s really only three or four people posting here.
End of talk. I have worthwhile things to attend to.
I see, G4 Dualie is your maiden name. How sweet. Who’s your daddy, Fat Mac? And your mommy was Lisa, right? You have sister named Performa and you all live happily in Appleville on Macintosh Lane.
In case you hadn’t noticed, most of the “names” here are aliases, their not peoples’ real names, they’re pseudonyms, they represent people wish to remain anonymous, it’s their “veil of anonymity”. Given that you have aptly demonstrated that you are a complete moron who is oblivious to the obvious, why should I consider discussing anything requiring intelligence with you at all?
Maybe I’m on to something here!
1. G4 Dualie is proponent of Al Gore’s pseudoscience.
2. G4 Dualie is a moron.
3. Proponents of Al Gore are morons.
Does this @ piss you off? Get used to it.
Sorry, I forgot. I guess that “elitist” slur is supposed to make me mad or something? Not really. I truly am smarter than you are, you recognize that fact, and agree with me. I know that it’s hard to admit that you’re wrong, but a true scholar rejoices in the errors of his ways. Therein he gains wisdom and understanding. Believe me, you’ll thank me later.
The more windows trolls we see here, the more evidence it is of panic on their part – or their masters. Pay for friendly wikipedia editing? Pay for analysts? Pay politicians and judges? Pay for bloggers and posters? Why not. They don’t know how to “pay” to make a secure, stable OS.
I have been a Mac fanatic since 1985. I just call ’em like I see ’em. And there are quite a few self-deluded Al Gore drones that post here; despite the fact that they use Macs. Having a Mac doesn’t make any one any more perspicacious as living in a library doesn’t makes any one more scholarly.
So, if you insinuate that I’m a Windows troll I guess that only proves my point that idiocy and ignorance know no bounds. How do feel now?
Donde esta el haters?
Dude, people aren’t responding to you with insults out of weakness, per se. The problem lies more in the fact that they are essentially powerless to get through to anyone who believes the supremacy of his ideas grants him the right to trounce upon others with so much as a sincere attempt at meaningful debate. I am willing to accept that global warming isn’t the complete answer — or that maybe it isn’t the answer at all. The problem here is that you are not going to convince anybody of the superiority of the alternative solution which you espouse when you resort to insults to prove your point. You are correct that not everybody here is a scientist and not everybody has the “hard data” to back up their points. Thankfully, there are many real scientists out there that are painstakingly seeking out that data. However, when these scientists discover their data, regardless of which side it actually supports, they will not fly off into demoralizing tirades. They will announce a hypothesis, data to support that hypothesis, and conclude with some thoughts on the proven (or disproven) hypothesis’ implications. They might even suggest some further research. What they don’t do is automatically label as “morons” those with alternative viewpoints. Okay, so maybe some of the people on this forum are wrong, but few people anywhere will take you seriously (or consider you to be a serious scholar) if you refuse to act with a certain air of professionalism. I, for one, would love to hear what the reasons are for your particular viewpoint. I would like a chance to see why the science supporting one view is pseudo-science while the science in support of yours is real science. I think it’s a fascinating distinction and worth analyzing. I also think it’s possible (not certain, just possible) that one might be able to argue that your view is pseudo-science and others’ views are not. However, we will never be able to do that without a reasonable debate that assumes the people with which you argue can actually think for themselves. At the moment, you are not willing to recognize anyone’s intelligence but your own, and so no one wants to take you seriously.
oops…that should hvae read “without so much as a sincere attempt…” Sorry!
“Drastic climate change happens with great geological frequency. Man has never been responsible in the past. To think that we must be responsible now is the height of conceit.”
Well, we are responsible for it. As far as Al Gore pseudo-science, all the scientists I know think it’s real, and that’s a few phDs in biochem. It seems like the only blokes calling this pseudo-science are those that really have no clue and those whose paycheck depends on oil.
Making big gas guzzlers has done our auto industry lots of good, hasn’t it? Global warming must be real, now that the Bush administration has acknowledged an up-side (longer growing seasons) Yeah, for real. I’m not making that up.
So, in other words, I have become the justification of some to resign themselves to mental sloth and intellectual apathy. Really, that’s a pathetically poor excuse not to sincerely engage in serious inquiry and open-minded investigation. Well, if I’m the only reason that some people choose not to examine global warming more carefully, then this only confirms my low opinion of their intelligence much less their understanding of the scientific process.
And don’t I recall all of you naysayers and fanboys cry out bloody murder because Apple hooked up with Intel instead of AMD? LOL! All this time, I was telling everyone that Intel had to have shown Uncle Steve some shiznit processor that would guarantee their Mac line of computers would still have the brass one to compete!
He who laughs last….
Time to buy some fake diamonds before they go up in value!
ALL and I mean ALL scientists were using the wrong “sun heating” data till about 1.5 years ago. The new and correct data is NOT on the global warming crowds side. Al Gore’s scientists are WRONG and are using false data that is old and out of date. But………….. Then “FOLLOW THE MONEY!!!!!!!” Just like the right winger follow the money with big oil. The wako left follows the money with man made global warming!! 1500 year cycle!! That is the what the REAL scientists think is the right hypothesis!
As far as I’m concerned, the only thing Al Gore proved was how gullible many people can be. In the academic community, which is primarily left wing, disparaging Al Gore’s mythology is tantamount to professional suicide. I’ve been there and that’s the reason I have a new career. You can talk about global warming during your cocktail parties and after dinner socials, I talk about it as a person who challenged the prevailing beliefs and saw my research career wither from lack of funding.
There’s no intellectual honesty and serious scientific inquiry when the only principle that guarantees professional acceptance and security is adherence to the political dogma. This rule applies to the tenured professor as well as the fledgling postdoc. Don’t think that because Joe McCarthy was a Republican that Democrats cannot also be guilty of excesses of power and coercion. Al Gore and his supporters have corrupted the scientific community and I hope that they pay well for their promoting their self-serving lies.
Approximately 25% faster
1/2 as small
Approximately 25% less power
Time to make a bigger chip! And make it real fast! The question is, how is this such a huge breakthrough? These numbers aren’t that staggering. It it just a sign that they can go even smaller? By a long shot?
Pi Qustions
Can someone please inform me of a site for crippled children? I would like to go there and make them cry. Oh, and who has Peterson’s number. I’m totally not him, but he’s really dimple-icious.
Oh, and remember that time when you said that thing? And then later you like said something else? That was totally awesome.
Here is the site for crippled children
http://www.democrats.org/ourparty.html
I have no idea how or why this thread suddenly devolved into a zealous tumult of worthless grandstanding. Quite a bit has been typed and very little has been said. Whether or not you believe that global warming or “global climate change” is a possibility, whether or not you believe that there is substantiated evidence that the human species is directly effecting these supposed environmental changes- is absolutely NOT the point of expressing concerns about energy use. The point, if we follow a logical and reasonable line of observation, measurement, experimentation, etc. should be to consider what is responsible. We know for a fact that this planet contains limited natural resources (most importantly fossil fuels). The last half of the 20th century saw the largest total increase in the consumption of fossil fuels all time. Pair this with the massive industrial development in China and India (it’s possible that sometime in the next hundred years that the US could become the SECOND largest energy consumer in the world- behind China). Take the information how you please. Is it an argument to increase our military presence in the Middle East? begin immediate drilling in the Gulf of Mexico and in the Arctic National Wildlife refuge?…go ahead…consume- justify it how you please- justify it by denying any of the possible peripheral consequences(global warming), but the simple reality is that it WILL run out unless we choose to consider how and why we use the energy available to us. Going back to the “Dark Ages” is inevitable unless we change the way we use energy. And yes, this means drastic changes to our way of life- industry, economy, culture…I’d much rather make sacrifices now to ensure that there’s something left for my grandchildren…if in the process we curtail or even prevent a theoretical climatological, environmental disaster- all the better.
Instead of harassing and insulting or spewing very articulate, though completely useless words about how much more you think you know about subjects much more complex than a phalanx of scientists could spend the next century attempting to both prove and disprove serves no purpose but to prove how completely foolish and selfish folks like @ Yours Smugly
First of all… it appears that Sputnik is back. Remember him? He also spouted on about the ‘Real IT World’.
Secondly, to all those who would dispute the evidence for a warmer climate – don’t confuse weather, or seasons, with climate. Secondly – my country, Australia, is in the middle of a severe drought, one that has lasted about 6 years. 2001 was the last good wet year, and 2006 was the worst year for rainfall on record. Consider that in 1998, we had so much rain that Sydney’s dam overflowed… now, in 10 years, we’re about to run dry. Yes, there has been severe water wastage and population growth, but a decade is a very short time to go from wet to dry, don’t you think?
screw the lot of you…
So, the mantra is now reduce petroleum use otherwise the Dark Ages will engulf use for lack of oil. Isn’t this substantially different from the previous mantra of petroleum use is killing us with increased CO2? You see, you people can changes your minds as quickly as a switching Intel transistor. You have no science, only the latest fad in human destruction. What’s worse, you have no solution. What’s the point of identifying a critical issue if you haven’t the capacity to do something about it? What’s the point of following your lead if you have no confidence in your own beliefs? Seems like a total waste of time to follow people who have little intelligence, even less understanding, and much less commitment.
You and your like are perfect examples of liberal McCarthyism and pseudocience arrogantly disguised as an attempt to save humanity. Since you claim to be well versed in the issue of global warming, please list the greenhouse gases that exist in the atmosphere, describe the rates of their increase or decrease for the past 50 years, and quantify their relative contribution to the greenhouse effect. If you can’t, what do you really understand about anything regarding climate change?
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This all great and everything but…
When are scientists gonna come up with a viable-mass fuel solution to petrol?
I tell you now, on the current rate of petrol usage we have around 25yrs before all the oil is gone (I know this as I work for an oil company – I even have the data).
Now consider that fact that oil usage almost doubles year on year and you realise we have a VERY serious problem – globally.
Without petrol nothing can be delivered – including your new laptop with the revolutionary chip.
Mental illness is a disease. There is no cure.
I have empathy for you, but seriously…. fuck off.
ALD – Wow! That’s science fiction without the fiction.
But I can’t help but wonder what computers would be like using superconductors. I know I know, I’ve been blasted before for talking like SC are just around the corner when really they’re – uh, what is it now – 100 years? – blah blah blah. But I still maintain that its kind of like the gasoline problem (not exactly like – kind of like). According to President Bush we’re still at least 10 years away from reducing gasoline usage by 48%? What?! If Americans had any real balls we’d reduce our gasoline usage by 48% per year for the next two years – its really just a matter of doing it, not waiting for the president to tell us when its ok.
As it is, I believe that SC technology could be implemented into computing devices now, it would be messy and expensive, but once it begins to be implemented and money starts being generated, even token money (is token money an oxymoron?), that’s when new technologies begin to improve, obviously. So let’s get SC tech. out in the real world, and I think computers is one of two or three obvious places to start.
Spare me the references to superconductors.org and iop.org, et. al. Its precisely from staying in touch with these information sources that I believe what I believe.
Never the less, and inspite of my old-fart rant, I’m really jazzed about Intel’s progression in the field of chip development, and eagerly look forward to using the new devices that will implement them.
BETTER PATENT THAT MO’ FO’ QUICK!
What is your point @….you’re not saying anything…my main point is that we DO HAVE to DO something…your so busy hacking on the “falsehood” of climate change…what do YOU know about it..You want gases? I got your gases. CO2, methane, water vapor, nitrous oxide, O3….We KNOW for a FACT that percentages of these gases in th atmosphere have increased in the last hundred years…I would even go as far as to AGREE with you that we DO NOT know exactly what the total effect will be on the climate…but we have THEORIES based on observation and experimentation (that would be, uh..science) done by hundreds if not thousands of people far more qualified than I to assert an arguement…Do you really think this is some paranoid delusion? If so, what is your point? As far as petroleum product comsumption is concerned…DO YOU KNOW WHAT YOUR KEYBOARD IS MADE OF? A huge percentage of the household products we take for granted are DIRECTLY reliant or actually include the use of petrolium derivatives in their manufacture…FUCK global warming…how bout no remote controls or mice…or computers or TVs…to placate all of the mindless “MacCarthyists” You want your “Dark Ages”? you’ll get it… UNLESS…I have a lot of ideas – and have taken action- as to how to do my part…Do you own a car? I don’t….What’s your point @? Give us your infinte wisdom…please…I’m in actual physical pain waiting to here what tidbit of hope you like to proffer as to the future of mankind….OR perhaps I should lock myself in my local mosque, church, synagogue…shove my head up my ass and wait for God to take care of it. You’re a hopeless wind bag of blind negativity…but, I’d love to hear more – not just on your despot-like disdain for discourse on more than just the subject of global warming, but on the general state of our culture as a whole…please, enlighten us.
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Go empower your self by polishing Bills brown eye trumpet with that Vista windows Shit! You fucking Tard.
Now one here gives a shit. Fuck off!