“Oh my gosh, I dared to criticize something Apple in my column, and out of the woodwork, as always, come the Mac fanboys, with their ever-so-polite and mature commentary,” Andrew Kantor blogs on his Kantor.com website.
Kantor writes, “I save some of the mail I get, and the folder structure shown below should tell you all you need to know. (And yes, it’s real — it’s been that way since the first screaming Mac-fan fits.
Kantor writes, “John Dvorak has a perfect take on it.”
You can read the comments and add your own at Kantor’s site here.
It’s telling that Kantor points to the video of John Dvorak admitting that he baits Mac users for hits in a “weasely way” to gain hits to his articles. It truly is the “perfect take” on what Kantor does, too.
As for predictability, Kantor has the market cornered:
1. Bait Apple/Mac fans
2. Bait some more if they don’t respond
3. Gather the responses and collect the hits
4. Pick and choose the worst of the responses and post them on his site
5. Wait awhile, lay low, and then repeat the process
Are we supposed to ignore his “review” of Apple’s unfinished iPhone (that he admits he hasn’t even touched) and his “advice” to millions of USA Today readers that “business users may want to look elsewhere?”
We’d rather shine what spotlight we can on him for all to see than let his stuff go unchallenged and therefore accepted by a greater number of people.
Related articles:
USA Today writer: Apple iPhone is an ‘ordinary, average product’ at heart – January 12, 2007
USA Today tech writer: Apple’s Boot Camp will get Mac users to switch to Windows – April 14, 2006
USA Today columnist calls Mac users and Apple fans a ‘cult of blind little lemmings’ – September 16, 2005
USA Today: Apple’s iPod nano ‘a beautiful piece of hardware’ – but ‘the competition has caught up’ – September 16, 2005
USA Today writer: Apple’s iTunes Music Store’s ‘restrictive license’ fosters rampant piracy – March 25, 2005
USA Today writer unhappy with MacDailyNews and some Mac users’ emails – October 18, 2004
USA Today writer attempts to downplay Apple’s role in Virginia Tech supercomputer – September 03, 2004
Dvorak tries damage control – June 20, 2006
Video: Dvorak admits to baiting Apple Mac users for hits – June 10, 2006
I dunno, I’d have to go with Kantor on this one. MDN gets way too frothy at the mouth when people don’t absolutely gush over all things Apple. Get a grip MDN. You make us all look bad.
Jings,
Kantor baits Apple product users for hits and you blame MDN?
Kantor is the one calling Mac and Apple product users “fanatics” and “reviewing” an unreleased product he never touched and suggesting in USA Today that people “may want to look elsewhere.”
Real journalists like David Pogue of the NY Times and Walt Mossberg of the WSJ refuse to review iPhone or any other product until they can spend real time with the finished product.
You have a seriously warped perspective, Jings.
Kantor has zero credibility.
Any reviewer worth his salt is waiting to review the iPhone until it’s done. Form PC Mag to the NY Times to the WSJ. USA Today is a rag.
What I wrote to Kantor:
Mr. Kantor,
Have you used, touched, or even seen the iPhone in person?
David Pogue (who actually spent an hour hands-on with the iPhone) reported in the New York Times, “at the moment, the iPhone is in an advanced prototype… [and] the software is still unfinished, and many questions are still unanswered.”
Don’t you think you should do as Pogue and Mossberg both did – not do a review, but a preview – and not start recommending that business users or any other users look elsewhere?
Sources:
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/11/technology/11pogue.html
http://ptech.wsj.com/archive/ptech-20070111.html
Do you see the possibilities of the iPhone UI taken to future iPods and also to larger screen Mac tablets and devices? Can’t you see the future? Or are you for some reason upset that Apple has been granted and applied for over 200 patents that will allow them to protect their innovations from Microsoft et al. this time?
Thank you for your time.
Keep it civil and Kantor has no valid response.
Kantor and Dvorak are trolls. Like lousy street performers, they relish a little attention and some coins in their jar (via article hits). Pay no attention to them.
As for Mac-fan ire, I see it this way: you can criticize Apple, but you’d better be absolutely right and have your facts straight. Mac fans can spot even the slightest BS and baiting, and aren’t afraid to call it as such.
Besides, ever notice it’s mainly the Windows camp that baits? Aren’t they satisfied or secure with their choices? Maybe misery really needs company. If I fought a PC all day I’d be half-nuts ugly too.
I don’t see why USA Today would employ someone as a reviewer who is obviously anti-Apple (see his related articles above) if not just for the hits from people who use Apple products and can clearly see his lies.
In reading MDN’s response:
USA Today writer: Apple iPhone is an ‘ordinary, average product’ at heart
I see nothing at all wrong with anything MDN wrote. Unless it’s wrong to write the truth.
What I wrote to Kantor:
You are a dum Micro$oft user!
<i>Apple’s FairPlay (ha!) digital rights management scheme<i> from Kantor’s article.
Sounds like baiting to me.
Kantor is a troll. Read about his stupidity on MDN, but don’t give him any hits.
Andrew Kantor can’t get people to read his articles based on their own merits, so he has to resort to Dvorak’s formula.
Kantor is such a sad, little man.
No Sir, were not critisizing your take on the Apple iPhone or Apple in general. We’re criticizing your ability to do your job as a reporter and base your assertions on facts, not what may or may not be true on a product you have never actually touched. We’re criticizing your ability to report properly, objectively, you know – something you get paid to do.
Andrew Kantor is a manipulator and a bad one at that. Dvorak’s better at it. They both come off as whores with no credibility.
MDN MW: “class.” That which both Kantor and Dvorak lack.
Why oh why?
Mark,
Excellent post and advice.
Is it my imagination or are these comments being censored and removed if alternate opinions are being expressed?
Like Morrissey once said “that joke isn’t funny anymore.”
MDN: Are we supposed to ignore his “review” of Apple’s unfinished iPhone (that he admits he hasn’t even touched) and his “advice” to millions of USA Today readers that “business users may want to look elsewhere?”
No, you are doing the right thing by calling attention to his lack of credibility and pointing out his many errors.
Keep up the good work.
jiggy,
who’s the dumb one?
If you’d spelled ‘dum’ correctly, it would have made more of an impression.
No hits for you!
I’d have to go with Kantor. MDN was over the top on this one. Let it go…
Kantor equates “Mac Fans” and “Creationists.” I assume he thinks both are crazy.
So, does Kantor think he’s God and knows all?
He must if he can give buying advice on a device he’s never even seen in person and he seems to know how the Universe began.
MOTM,
Please tell us how MDN was “over the top” with their response. It’s here:
http://macdailynews.com/index.php/weblog/comments/12286/
SteveJack was right:
The massive FUD campaign against Apple’s iPhone ramps up
1. Go To USA Today and request that USA today investigate him.
A. Is he taking money from Microsoft or others to constantly bash Apple?
or
B. Is he doing this simply for web hits from Mac fans, and people who can’t believe a column this negative of spin would exist – and why?
Tell them, as did I, I would send out a Private Investagator of my own money if I could afford it to figure out what is going on here… He is slanted in every blatent sense of the world.
Finally, tell USA Today you will not subscribe to their paper – or drop them if you currently get it – and will no longer visit their website until something is done.
Not giving web hits to USA Today, and especially Kantor is the quickest way to shut this guy up.
PERHAPS WE SHOULD START A PETITION ON DRIVE-BY-MEDIA SLANT FOLK, and those who sign refuse to click to their articles and demand full disclosure of:
1. What stocks they own.
2. Whom they consult for.
3. To have them removed from true Journalistic practice until full disclosure has been made.
jiggy
your not helping the cause,
it’s dumb not dum.
:: shrug ::
If you can’t take the heat, Kantor, maybe you should stay out of the kitchen.
(Just for the record I am not one of the Mac fans that writes nasty notes to columnists)
Journo,
It’s more the whole attitude than this particular response. Haven’t you ever read some things on this website that you considered extraordinarliy biased and sometimes downright mean? Rudeness, in all its forms, is intolerable and shows a smallness of spirit. I wish MDN would keep that in mind.
I agree with Jings when he said “MDN gets way too frothy at the mouth when people don’t absolutely gush over all things Apple. Get a grip MDN. You make us all look bad.”
MDN is a community of extremist, mac-fanboys with no ability to take a joke, and accept that the world is full of assholes like Kantor.
I love my Macs, and my iPod, and my 30″ Cinema Display – I have invested over $13,000 with Apple alone on my workstation between hardware and software (and that is with educational discounts), and I have converted numerous people to the Mac since I switched in early ’05, but it’s crazy to think everyone is going to agree with us, and there will ALWAYS be people who hate Macs, no matter what, regardless of their logic or lack thereof…
Get over it… Who cares? Dropping to the Mac haters level just makes Mac users look stupid…
Grow up MDN!!!
Why couldn’t Apple hold the announcement until it was ready to ship?! Release some models to reviewers right at Macworld or something!! I am so tired of this moronic FUD I’m starting to see all over the place. They’re comparing the iPhone to some upcoming tacky LG with the same lame touchscreens of today because they have no idea the power of Mult-touch!!
I want to run around on all these forums and blogs and put these pricks in place but I don’t have the time. It’s so frustrating, five months of this shit? And Apple lets them get away with it by failing to show the world that the iPhone is more than a cellular iPod with a big touchscreen.
If the phone was on the streets right now people could see. They’d see and they’d shut the fuck up!!
Please tell us how MDN was “over the top” with their response. It’s here:
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MDN is generally always “over the top” with their takes.. I’m not saying there is never any truth in their takes, but there is never any balance in their takes.. They are right wing extremists, and like with any extremist group (greenpeace, etc, etc) the truth always lies somewhere in between their take and the opposers take. Anyone looking for objective information and opinions should not be reading this site.. Anyone looking for all their Mac news in one place and can deal with or find humor in the webmasters far right tactics and views should find it very entertaining.
I’m all for free speech, MDN have a right to write whatever they choose, but that doesn’t mean they are not “over the top.” They are often just as guilty of creating FUD as those they accuse. MDN is on the opposite side of course.
I’ve simply grown tired of the often immature MDN Take. I mainly use google news to get Mac related articles now. No pop-unders and I get the articles sooner!
Kantor’s offense was to opine differently than the authors of MDN. A main criticism was that wrote about an iPhone but hasn’t touched one. MDN writers are applying this criticism selectively, I’d say. (One wonders if they have touched an iPhone?) Additionally, he was speculative about the future of an Apple product – a crime certainly never committed by of MDN or its readers!
I think they couldn’t hold the announcement because once they applied for FCC approval then the proverbial cat was out of the bag. It was a matter of telling the world or letting the world hear about it from another source. It does suck that it’s not out til June though. It is an entirely cool product. Though, I’m not sure about the two year contract with Cingular. I guess it depends on what kind of plans they offer.
In response to R2:
Um… Everyone always complains that Apple WITHHOLDS information on forthcoming products… Now you’re complaining that they didn’t wait until launch?! Aside from the fact that their stock would have dropped rather than increased 5% the day of Macworld if the announcement wasn’t made (unreal expectations of Macworlds ALWAYS lead to a drop in stock price… :sigh:), announcing this early is just smart marketing. The cell phone market is full of people stuck in 2 year contracts. I, myself, am in a 2 year contract that ends the month before the release of the iPhone. Think about what would have happened if they waited until June to announce? They would have lost LOTS of customers whose contracts ended in the 1-6 month period prior to that release who would have waited to get said phone.
Why couldn’t Apple hold the announcement until it was ready to ship?!
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Because unlike computers and iPods, cell phones must be approved by the FCC before they can be sold. Once the product is submitted to the FCC for approval (a several month process,) it becomes public knowledge. Steve Jobs wanted to be the one to show the world iPhone first and not have it’s secrets and features leaked before release, which definitely would have happened had they submitted iPhone to the FCC.
My breath smells like Kantor.
And yet, you guys, much in the same way Charlie Brown tries to kick the football, keep falling for it over and over again. LOL
Kantor is also nothing if not predictable. Predictably idiotic as always.
Kantor is a tool, and shining the light on him is just fine. MDN has already rectified many articles by doing just that. As for MDN’s comments, they can say whatever the fsck they want to, because this site is for Apple fanboys, people. Personally, I think many times their takes are right on, sometimes make me laugh, sometimes make me see something in a different light — and sometimes I think they are wrong. It’s all good. Don’t blow a gasket over their takes, and lighten up!
I don’t like his hair.
MDN’s comments, they can say whatever the fsck they want to, because this site is for Apple fanboys, people. Personally, I think many times their takes are right on, sometimes make me laugh, sometimes make me see something in a different light — and sometimes I think they are wrong. It’s all good. Don’t blow a gasket over their takes, and lighten up!
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G-Spank, I agree with you about MDN having the right to say whatever they choose (see my post above.) I think the reason many are being vocal now is because some may feel MDN has gone to far and subsequently may be giving the Mac community a bad image.
Yeah yeah yeah. I suppose. I’m just frustrated. How many people are going to read articles like the one in USAToday over the next few months and decide to go ahead and get that Motorola Q since the iPhone is “nothing new”? There should be some way to counter this FUDge orgy.
Look at this prick on Engadget:
“You have to follow the history of Apple products launch to see why they are not making the IPHONE 3G ready. Besides the cost that is already elevated, they have to keep something under their sleeves. Remember the Nano and the almost inmediate launch of the Ipod Video?. I will say Iphone EDGE for June, IPOD 3G for XMAS 2007.
But I guess, that the people as consumers should let them know that we are not going to keep paying outrageous amount of money of Gadgets that become obsolete in 1 year. The case of the IPOD Video again, 60 GB = $400 a year later a 80 GB better and cheaper.”
I want to bludgeon his eyes out. IT’S CALLED EVOLUTION YOU MONKEY FSCK! YOU’D PREFER THEM TO PURPOSELY SIT ON NEW ADVANCEMENTS FOR FIVE YEARS JUST SO YOU FEEL BETTER ABOUT YOUR iPOD PURCHASE?
In a thread earlier today I made a comment about sincerity. Take a look at Kantor’s face and make your own judgment as to whether he is a sincere person.
Yup and MDN posts the links to the columnists so they get the most hits possible.
If anything MDN, post “news” if you will, but if your readers want to go to the article let them Google it.
Why does MDN like to promte these people and only they benefit. It’s beyond me. And MDN never responds. So to me that ust means MDN gets some “hits” benefit in return on linking.
I used to come to MDN many tiimes a day for my Mac news. But now it’s only once or twice sometimes. And when I get here MDN is like this. ranting about some columnist, but linking and promoting what MDN claims to be bogus reporting.
I’m out of here MDN. YOu’re an enabler to the very people you criticize. WTF
jiggy, ‘What I wrote to Kantor:
You are a dum Micro$oft user!
Jiggy, dum is spelled dumb, who’s the dumb one?
Why couldn’t Apple hold the announcement until it was ready to ship?!
To satisfy Wall Street, stupify Microsoft, steal CES, and ice the rumor mill (which would’ve kicked into hyperdrive upon FCC submission), among others.
Not bad for one little announcement, no?
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Also, in a way, the announcement was a beta test. It put preview models out for feedback (without risking all-but-guaranteed leaks with a hardware seed test).
Then there’s the issue of most cell phone users being stuck in multi-year service contracts. This gives potential customers half a year to reconsider.
I wish the announcement had been made closer to release too, but for now we’ll have to trust Steve as a grandmaster who knows exactly what he’s doing. I wouldn’t bet against him.
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Haven’t you guys realised that Apple is baiting Kantor.
He has to try and find something wrong with everything that Apple does ( ‘cos he’s absolutely predictable ), but when Apple come up with something like the iPhone, he really has problems trying to to find anything plausible to criticise it, so he deflects attention by criticising those who use Macs instead.
The best thing about it is that when the next Apple product comes out, he’ll be even more desperate and will have the additional humiliation of being the guy who got it most wrong when the iPhone was announced.
It’s just too hard for all these PC leMmings to appreciate what it has been like for Mac users to have to live amongst the PC MORONS AND THEIR CONDECENDING IDIOTIC ATTITUDE TOWARDS A DECADE AHEAD TECHNOLOGY.
I like that in reading these responses, you can easily tell who thinks, reasons, and responds vs. those who type like a mad monkey at the keyboard.
ron, all
Micro$oft is spelled Microsoft too.
Maybe jiggy was just trying to be 1337 and in fact isn’t dum at all.
Of course he may be dumb as shit…what do I know?
Maybe if he would write the truth and the facts then maybe us Mac fans won’t tear him apart. Criticize yes, but writing about crap that you have no knowledge of and FUD is why we send our comments to you Kantour. If I’m going to write about a story in a National newspaper I would sure as hell make sure I got the facts right first before publishing it. Apparently he must come from a background like the inquirer which makes up all of its stories based upon whatever the writer feels that day.
To those criticizing MDN, I have to ask, what part(s) of the following don’t you understand?
Our mission is to scour the Web for articles that interest Mac and Apple product users, remark on the content of these articles, provide news about Apple Computer, Inc. and their products, and to opine about all things related to Apple and the Mac.
Most importantly, MacDailyNews exists to provide a place for our readers and the Mac community to discuss these daily news items in their own words with real-time feedback.
Why do we do this? Because long ago we received the most important advice a computer user can ever receive, “Get a Mac.” We want to help spread that valuable advice.
Source: http://macdailynews.com/index.php/weblog/contact/
MDN is simply doing exactly what they’ve always promised to do.
Whoa, I’m a Mac user AND a creationist. I guess I’d be on Kantor’s shit list more than anybody. Two-for-one — well, at least I’m generous.
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Maybe if he would write the truth and the facts then maybe us Mac fans won’t tear him apart
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Kantor did write facts.. Granted, he did so with a negative twist. But so far, with what information we’ve been given by Apple, the iPhone does not support 3G and does not support Word or Excel docs.
Of couse these features may be includedin the future, but he is writing about what information is available NOW.. I would rather journalists write about facts rather then speculate.
From “Not illiterate’s” post
Why do we do this? Because long ago we received the most important advice a computer user can ever receive, “Get a Mac.” We want to help spread that valuable advice.
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Extreme rightism does not help spread valuable advice, objective criticism does. MDN is rarely objective. They are merely running a fan site and preaching to the converted.
One look at the guy’s blog and it’s pretty clear he is just a blowhard in love with the sound of his own voice, and fortunate enough to have people who are willing to pay him to utilize it.
I don’t see anything wrong with MDN relating his history as a Mac basher and correcting his facts. That’s what blogs are for. But when you put email addresses in, to encourage a response campaign, he wins. He gets the ego rush of a loaded inbox, and gets to cherry pick the worst of the lot to support his prejudice.
My advice — save the email campaigns for those who will actually listen to, read and process the responses. Let dinosaurs like the Kantors and Dvoraks of the world spout off in the echo chamber of their own brains.
you want to talk about predictable:
Kantor or Cantor: ORIGIN mid 16th cent.: from Latin, ‘singer,’ from canere ‘sing.’ obviously where the word “Canary” originates.
Yeah, he sings a song alright, and canaries are yellow, and he epitomizes “yellow journalism” it all makes sense!
MW = stand
like a “bird stand” Bingo!
I think the fact that Kantor chose to include a screen shot of his computer’s file structure, illustrating Windoze’s outdated, circa 1990 graphics, says it all.
He was stating facts, ?Lvr?
“First of all, to use the iPhone you need to use Apple’s iTunes software, and with it Apple’s FairPlay (ha!) digital rights management scheme. It means dealing with a product that — despite what Mac fanatics say — is fraught with problems.”
How is the iTunes software and/or FairPlay “fraught with problems”?
MDN.. you took the bait.. and so did everyone that read that article.
Didn’t Kantor write something before that pissed off Mac users? Something totally outrageous? I seem to remember his last name…..
I didn’t read it. MDN did me a service by helping me identify the ones to avoid.
One thing, MDN didn’t tell anyone to trash the guy via email.
Second thing, most people who send him email are taking exception to his shoddy reporting, not that he likes or dislikes an Apple product.
Third, not everyone who posted here criticizing his article sent him email, and in fact a bet a lot of people didnt even click the link to the article to avoid giving him page hits.
Dear MDN,
When will you stop linking to that bunch of morons?
Enderle, Dvorak, Malone, that shit list never ends!
STOP THE MADNESS!!!
Stop linking to those a-holes!
Who gives a f**k what those scumbags think?!?
Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t MDN required to post a link if they copy a section of another websites article?
You can tell he made is site on a pc…
donaldmarksproductions.com
ha HAH. Just as I said in my comment to the previous article on this:
Hit Whore
Wait a minute, he has two message folders 1. “Creationists” and 2. “Mac Users”. Isn’t that the same thing? And ‘one more thing’, Kantor says “ever-so-polite and mature commentary.” Duh that’s because we mac users were smart enough to switch or stay, dumb ass.
I’m all for correcting factual errors.
But that’s not what I usually see happening around here.
The idol worship I see in these MDN “takes” and fanboy posts is absolutely worthy of a Saturday Night Live sketch.
Strike that. Saturday Night Live isn’t funny anymore. This is!
Lest the “troll” word be used yet again: I like my Apple computers. Always have. I have often defended my decision to buy and use them. But I didn’t check my brain at the door when I carried them out of the store.
I only read this stuff because it continually amazes me. And it is instructive in that it teaches me on how NOT to defend my choice of computer.
Don’t care.
Now this maybe called a low blow but.. his wife is UGLY!
Man and he said we lived in our mum’s basements with pics of Steve hanging up. I’ve got news for you I have a family and a nice house so um, clearly he doesn’t know what he’s talking about.
Informed, yeah um…MDN takes are just about always correct. You, wrong. I think the best thing we can do is just ignore tools like informed and Kantor.
Heretics and defenders of the true faith are predictably antagonistic to one another. This is a fundamental truth in the battle of good versus evil and no one should complain about it.
Apple broadens the envelope of mobile computing devices and those that didn’t invent the iPhone first, much less understand the historical importance of the iPhone, are the first detractors. As with any new device, the iPhone is still in its embryonic stage. Wait until late 2007 and mid 2008 as newer, better, and even more feature- and function-laden models are offered for sale to an eager public. The same people who scorn the iPhone now will be crying for Microsoft to make a similar device. I’d rather be a smug, smiling, and anticipatory Apple devotee than an ignorant, blubbering, frustrated, and remorseful tool of Redmond.
Let me get this…
This guy is a tech writer for USA Today (perfectly suited for lining bird cages or wrapping fish) and he’s critisizing Walt Mossberg in the WSJ? And thinks he knows BETTER than the WSJ tech writer about which products are better for business?
If Kantor’s such a good writer, why is he not at the WSJ?
Nuff said…
It is true that a lot of Mac users overreact to any criticism of Apple; the editorial comments on this web-site and most of the user posts are proof of this. Unfortunately Mac fans can seem like a mob when they find a common enemy to beat upon, real or imagined.
Want to see what a slew of FUD before a product release looks like? You probably don’t if you think MDN has any sort of credibility, but I’ll link you anway. Enjoy.
Start here: http://macdailynews.com/index.php/search/results/75be43a587d0fd200c258eefe53157ab100/
MDN can be hypocritical all they want. It’s you lameass ostriches incapable of recognizing you’re eating the same bowl of shit that MDN bashes others for that I take umbrage with.
What I wrote Kantor was:
Why start trouble (baiting people) to have something to write about?
For news reporting in the past, it was good, unbiased reporting of the facts which kept people (factually) informed.
Why not write that way? I would think that your readership would increase drastically. You woud surely be part of the few elite.
Cpt. Obvious, that link didn’t work. Please re-post. I’m curious
well the Kantor article did it’s job. his hit count just went up astronomically and all he had to do was bait the fanboys. a touch of misinformation, a couple tablespoons of insult and a heaping cup of FUD… ummmm! and he can justify being called a tech writer…. “Lookit at my hits!”
there have always been naysayers… Nattering Nabobs of Negativism. so what? hey, sometimes they even have a point. but to respond by attacking and slandering them? that’s only giving them more to write about.
best course of action? just wait. wait ’em out. then when the time is right…
send them a quote of their own idiotic article to remind them just how far off the mark they were.
remember Mike Dells “stockholders” quote? imagine how he feels about that one now. he’s bein’ hammered with it.
yeah yeah ueah, third class writer heeds hits desperatly! Freak him!!!
The [Microsoft] fanatic is a person who believes their own tissue of lies. They are, thefore, deluded for the reason that they adhere to a refuted thesis where no proof can be furnished, nor even the possibility of future proof. Nor is there any chance that they will give up their thesis (cf. Perelman nad Olbrechts-Tyteca, The New Rhetoric, 62).
problem with Mac Users, is that 95% of the users (zealots) make the rest of us look bad.
apple fangays are a bunch of square smuggy elitist idiots, they give the brand a bad name
The [Apple] fanatic is a person who believes their own tissue of lies. They are, thefore, deluded for the reason that they adhere to a refuted thesis where no proof can be furnished, nor even the possibility of future proof. Nor is there any chance that they will give up their thesis (cf. Perelman nad Olbrechts-Tyteca, The New Rhetoric, 62).
Um… it’s just a product, guys. Is it really worth getting quite this upset over? He ~is~, after all, entitled to his opinions just as much as you are. And he is also welcome to share said opinion. So sorry that you have a hard time dealing with criticism.
Attack the content not the person.
He has a right to say/write what he likes for what ever reason.
Freedom of speech I think you call it.
Check out Kantor’s book on Amazon about Edison…
Then know this
Electric Light Bulb Henry Woodward invented an electric light bulb in 1874 and sold the patent to Thomas Edison
“The same people who scorn the iPhone now will be crying for Microsoft to make a similar device. “
Microsoft already makes the software for similar devices. they’ve been out for years, with more features. What the really interesting question is why has this taken Apple so long?
Likewise Apple TV has been out with Windows PCs for years in the form of a Windows Media Center Extender.
Why is it that Apple fanboys see Apple launch something, and because of their limited perspective and knowledge of the rest of the industry, assume Apple invented it. Was the large touchscreen phone invented by Apple? Please….
“Microsoft already makes the software for similar devices. they’ve been out for years, with more features. What the really interesting question is why has this taken Apple so long?”
Yeah, media center weiner extender, touch screen this/that, blah, blah…Apple not only innovates but takes products that are already out there and shitty and essentially fixes them.