Two images that are purported to be “Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard screenshots” are available on the “Trinity Rubicon” blog. Labeled “Finder & Internet Explorer” and “Desktop Switcher” the reader speculation below the images runs the gamut from “cool” to “obvious Photoshop fake” with nary a vote for Gimp.
We assume that, if real, the discontinued-on Mac “Internet Explorer” shows a Windows application running seamlessly in Leopard. Have Apple and the Darwine folks been working together? Or is Mac OS X’s long-rumored “Red Box” for natively running Windows applications actually being used in the images?
See them here.
MacDailyNews Take: What do you think? Trinity Rubicon’s back catalog seems to consist of just this one “Leopard Screenshots” post. Based on the definitions of “Trinity” and “Rubicon,” are these actual images of a triple-threat (Mac, Linux, Windows) Mac OS X Leopard 10.5 that proves Apple’s bound and determined to cross the point of no return?
[UPDATE: 6/24: The author of the screenshots has admitted to faking them. More info here.]
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Internet explorer there is IE 7 Beta. Probable fake
I like the Tabbed finder browser windows- real or not.
The only original thing that Microsoft ever did was to add web browser access into the “finder”. And they probably stole that from Linux. But is was tied to IE – HUGE mistake. I’d like Apple to add that feature but not tie it to a specific browser.
..but then I thought about if you selected the Windows IE7 where would the menu’s go?
In Windows they are built into the app at the top of the App window. If Apple ran the Windows SDK could they still keep the menus out of the window?
That is the only thing in my mind. If that’s not a problem then I would say it’s real. It definately seems really well done even if it is a fake…
FAKE
apple is not using DDR SDRAM for the next weedcrest units
DDR SDRAM IS WHAT WE HAVE in our macs today
I wish people would READ the posts that have gone before, before posting a new one. How many times do the DOH’s need to to be told the IE shown is Windows IE, not Mac IE..
I’m voting it’s genuine.
No more brushed metal in the Finder…
http://daringfireball.net/2005/09/anthropomorphized
“DDR SDRAM IS WHAT WE HAVE in our macs today”
So no-one would test Leopard on today’s Macs. That would be silly!
I’m on the fence here, but there are a number of very small details that make me think real.
1. The Desktop Switcher icon in the menu bar
2. The Bootcamp icon in the menu bar, like there is for Classic. I think they’ll maintain the ability to boot directly into Windows, just as you could for Classic.
3. Notice the lack of an iCal icon…Now notice the inclusion of the date on the address book icon. It looks as though the two apps have merged.
4. While I don’t like the transition, it’s been a Quicktime effect for a long time and it may not be the same for the final version.
5. Notice the Dock doesn’t distort. If it’s a fake, the author took great effort to recreate the dock over the desktop switching rather than having it distort as well. Since you’re only switching virtual desktops, it would make sense that your dock would remain unchanged.
I may be all wrong. We’ll have to wait for WWDC.
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4. the lack of “dink-dink’s” at the bottom of the colum view separators means that i’ve finally gotten them to fix the damn problem with odd-sizing, and is now doing some kind of smart sizing… and its about damn time.
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They aren’t missing. Columns don’t show them when there are no items in the column. The About This Mac window obscures the first column, but the goatse transition in the second pic reveals the column resize widget on a column to the left.
It’s a great Photoshop job but I call BS.
Some talented person created one “screenshot” with Photoshop then did a relatively simple modification for pic 2. If they were real, I’d expect to see some variation.
I love the idea of tabbed Finder windows though!
Tabbed Finder Window???? SIGN ME UP!!!!
..but then I thought about if you selected the Windows IE7 where would the menu’s go?
The new IE7 (by deafault) has no menu. You have to dig down and find the option to turn on the “Classic Menu.” Many of Vista’s new interfaces lose the menu bar. I think it’s a dumb idea to take away a method every is comfortable with, but that’s MS design at work.
Now about the fake/real part: Nothing is jumping out at me to say these are fake. As another poster said, there are too many little details that would point to this being real (CoreWindows, slash dropdown, boot camp style menubar icon, etc.). If this is a fake, then the person knows a good deal about development as well as Photoshop (can’t find artifacts either).
We’ll know in a couple of months anyway (or sooner if Apple forces these to be pulled off the web).
Peace,
Kevin
I like how all the dimwits (even here) keep saying it’s a fake because MS stopped developing IE for Mac. On the blog, even after it’s mentioned like four times, another idiot comes in saying that. Nonetheless, these pics are nice. I never pass judgement on whether they’re fake or not because it’s not worth the effort.
4. the lack of “dink-dink’s” at the bottom of the colum view separators means that i’ve finally gotten them to fix the damn problem with odd-sizing, and is now doing some kind of smart sizing… and its about damn time.
You’ll note in the tranistion image, there is a “dink-dink” (wtf?) in the root folder. This is Finder’s current behavior, it only shows a resize button when there is content in the column.
I think it is fake; heard somewhere that there must be new desktop themes in Leopard.
Oh for the lack of preview… Anyway, one commenter on the blog even said it’s a fake because IE is obviously an WinXP window. Some people are so thick it’s unbelievable.
“5. Notice the Dock doesn’t distort. If it’s a fake, the author took great effort to recreate the dock over the desktop switching rather than having it distort as well. Since you’re only switching virtual desktops, it would make sense that your dock would remain unchanged.”
Two things wrong with that (at least). These are still shots, so the “switcher” image could merely be a desktop picture, which would not affect the dock or menu bar. Even if this were video, you could do it by putting a Quartz composition on the desktop to transition between two images. You could probably easily trigger the effect with the mouse, too.
http://www.fourminutemilesoftware.com/quartzdesktop/
(Something like Desktop Movie Player would work, too, but your movie would have to be huge.)
Anyone notice this is a MacBook Pro this is running on (Notice the battery in the menu-bar)? Not sure what that means, but here are the processor and memory specs.
17-inch MacBook Pro:
2.16GHz Intel Core Duo processor, 2MB on chip shared L2 cache running 1:1 with processor speed
1GB (single SODIMM) of PC2-5300 (667MHz) DDR2 memory
667MHz frontside bus
I dunno. . . just info. Sleep now.
Just a few points not mentioned yet:
1. If Apple uses just the Windows APIs only to implement a “Classic” for Windows, then there would not be any Windows version to report in About This Mac, if I understand it correctly.
2.- If it’s running a full “XP with Service Pack 2”, if so, then where is the Start menu?
– Would it only appear when a Windows program is frontmost?
– If so, what happens to the Mac OS X dock, which also resides at the bottom?
– What will a Mac menu do when you are “in” a Windows program? Fade/Slide out? Be totally empty except for Apple Menu, menubar items and Spotlight?
3. The Finder titlebar in the second pic shows the path having a little black Safari-like menu arrow. While this would seem to be a nice addition to make the hierarchy menu appear more easily (you need to press the command button when clicking the title now), I’d argue that this would lead to more accidental clicks, if the entire path is clickable. It’s omission from the first pic suggests it’s a fake, though. Despite Macintosh HD being the top of the list (if that’s the argument for the omission of the arrow), you can still go back up one more time to the computer level (even now), so the arrow would still make sense to be present.
4. (To subsequent trolls): This is a discussion about user interface details, so it’s inherently nit-picky. If you read this far and think I need a life, then bite me, doughboy.
It’s real but we’re not going to make a big deal about it. Enjoy!
I think this look suspicuous because I don’t believe the Windows icon for IE would scale and look so native in the Dockbar as it does in the picture.
First post on a brand new blog that doesn’t have any attribution to an author. That makes me suspicious of authenticity.
If I had seen it on UNEASYsilence, I might have nibbled a bit.
The other steve – sorry we can’t all be as smart as you.
I guess you have more experience of pre-pre-release builds than the rest of us. And despite what you’ve been smoking I didn’t comment anywhere else.
Meanwhile, you can believe it’s real if you like. Me, I’ll smugly think it’s a fake, albeit a nicely produced one.
GIMP!
the last time I was promised 10.5 screenshots, I picked up Leap/A . . . .is it safe to look?
it shows the RAM as being DDR SDRAM, Im pretty sure all intel macs are DDR2. at least all current intel macs are DDR2. Im not sure about earlier model intel imacs though.
which would mean that this is running on a power pc.
and virtualisation is only possible on intel chips.
so im going with fake on this one.