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i think I just barfed
Okay, I’ll bite….
“grassroots tool”, yeah, they’re all tools. HUHUHUHUHUH!
Oh yeah, Rush Limbaugh is a huge turd.
What? Sure I’ll get right on it… Not! Sounds liek work..
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C’mon you “open-minded” libs, show us your REAL colors…I dare you. Bunch of phucking pinkos.
Can their current leader even spell iPod correctly?!
Oh boy, this is gonna start a fight.
“Any man under 30 who is not a liberal has no heart, and any man over 30 who is not a conservative has no brains.” — Winston Churchill
So does the GOP model censor music and the Democrat model just drain your bank account?
Vote Libertarian.
i wonder if this thread will degenerate into an opportunity for Americans to bash on each other with no actual argument but rather with partisan buzz words.
i wonder …
Actually…the censors would be on the Democrat model (Tipper Gore anyone)
Not a big fan of the GOP but hey, that’s about 100 Millions iPods right?
I here it will sport the new Elephant & Swastika logo!
Can’t WAIT to get mine!
I WILL NOT STAND FOR THIS, STOP ALL iPOD PRODUCTION, WE SHALL NOT GIVE THE GOP A DAMN THING!
Swastika (sic?)
Yep, there are your stupid partisan buzzwords.
Unbelievable.
1- Can only be purchased on credit and costs 20x more than list price, thereby running a huge deficit.
2- Attacks other mp3 players, even when not provoked.
3- Is actually an off-brand mp3 player in disguise.
4- Runs completely on oil.
Does it come loaded with all the greatest hits of the Republican Party?
A few that come to mind:
For Iraq:
Pretenders – “My City Was Gone”
Bloodhound Gang – “Fire, Water, Burn”
Kansas – “Dust in the Wind”
Pink Floyd – The entire “Final Cut” album
The Beatles – “Help!”
For the NSA:
Hall & Oates – “Private Eyes” (they’re watching you!)
Alan Parsons Project – “Eye in the Sky”
And the rest…
Supertramp – Bloody Well RIGHT
Billy Joel – You May Be RIGHT
Jesus Jones – RIGHT Here, RIGHT Now
Free – All RIGHT Now
Any Fox New Channel Bumper music
And let’s not forget, the President’s theme song:
Pink Floyd – Brain Damage
I’m sure that the NSA will take this opportunity to track all of the music we buy to categorize which of us is taking part in terrorist activities, right?
A GOP iPod. It scans your music library and sends a list of it’s contents every time you sync it up to your computer. Hey, if it’s good enough for your phone records it’s good enough for your playlists.
I like the picture of the iPod, but why is there a picture of Alfred E. Neuman on it? What, me worry?
Stop quoting Churchill, he would be sickened to be associated by that jackass Bush and his neo-con cronies.
29% like it and falling.
Um, no thank you. I don’t need any corrupted iPod in my possession.
a liberal hippy douche, I want to bash this as nothing but another tool for brainwashing the brainwashed. However, as usual, the GOP political machine is ahead of the DNC in their methods.
Thorin, ever heard of “revisionist history”? That is what you are doing now. Do a little research & find that the quote you are using is falsely attributed to Winston Churchill. You are such a tool that you didn’t even quote a false quote right.
GHWB: Nah gonna flame the other guys, the Democrats, some good people across the aisle, goood people. Read my lips, nah gonna doit.
GWB: Well dad, I do luv mah iPod. Sumtimes I get sa riled up listnen ta Toby Keith on mah mountain bike I just about go nukular.
Howard the Dean: “…All over la jolla, at waimia bay… and South Carolina, and Oklahoma and Arizona and North Dakota and New Mexico and we’re going to California and Texas and we’re going to New York and South Dakota and Oregon and Washington and Michigan and then we’re going to Washington D.C. to take back the White House, HeYaaaauuuuurgh!!!!!!!
http://www.all-encompassingly.com/crazy_dean_high.php
Actually the NSA is currently tracking all the political extremists posting to this site. Quick! RUN!
I’m an equal opportunity supporter – I pretty much hate ALL politicians.
“Stop quoting Churchill, he would be sickened to be associated by that jackass Bush and his neo-con cronies.”
I did not associate Churchill with the current administration, nor did I say I was a fan of the current administration (I’m not). This was about the GOP. I was just stirring the pot. Looks like it worked.
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You pinko, liberal, commies make us all sick! You are pathetic. Immediate 2nd grade bashing when MDN posts anything that mentions a Republican. You people will never get any where in life. It’s a good thing you were born in the 20th century becuase you would be toast in earlier history. No one would have taken care of your sorry asses with hand outs and simpathy for real criminals (I know you’ll try to pretend that Bush is a criminal but that couldn’t be farther from the truth). Winston Churchill would most likely be rallying to take out Iran and North Korea right now. Not quivering in a corner like you pansies. Yes our government is far from perfect and corrupt in a lot of ways. Big corporations have far too much influence. FDA is a joke. But it gives us something to work on. You don’t take out Iran now we’ll be nuking the whole middle east back to the stone age eventually after they supply terrorists with nukes. Just wait and see. It’s headed in that direction at a rapid pace.
mike k: i wonder if this thread will degenerate into an opportunity for Americans to bash on each other with no actual argument but rather with partisan buzz words.
i wonder …
Exactly….sigh
It’s the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine. R.E.M.
Ain’t That a Shame- Cheap Trick
Blood Money- The Church
Dirty Laundry- Don Henley
What A Fool Believes-The Doobie Brothers
Madman Across The Water-Elton John
Cocaine-Eric Clapton
Red Skies-The Fixx
Throwing It All Away- Genesis
Welcome to the Jungle-Guns N’ Roses
Never Been Any Reason-Head East
Devil Inside-INXS
The Pretender-Jackson Browne
Fortunate Son-John Fogerty
First Your Money (Then Your Clothes)-Jude Cole
Lies-Linda Ronstadt
Cult of Personality-Living Colour
Brain Damage-Pink Floyd
Every Breath You Take-The Police
I’m Going Slightly Mad-Queen
Luantic Fringe-Red Rider
The Enemy Within (Pt 1 of Fear)-Rush
“I’m an equal opportunity supporter – I pretty much hate ALL politicians”
ME TOO.
OK the Churchill quote is bogus, breathe in, breathe out.
Jimbo, namecalling is so simple when you’re hiding behind your firewall.
Jimbo:
Googled the quote, found five sites giving the attribution to Churchill and none to others, gotta link?
Whaaa? How? Steve?
I feel so dirty now. Something so pure and wonderful… corrupted by… them. No no no no no.
5- Taps phones looking for privat information.
6- Lies about music playing.
7- iPod aproval rating will sinc to 28%.
8- Will isolate and torture other MP3 players who play Arab music.
9- Will display World Music Demos (WMD) but you won’t be able to find them on the HD.
10- Displays mission accomplished when a song has just begun.
C’mon you “open-minded” libs, show us your REAL colors…I dare you. Bunch of phucking pinkos.
Oh, the irony.
Despite what many of you might think, this isn’t a political blog. Take your fight elsewhere. There are plenty of places on the web to espouse your political views and complain about this party or that one.
Go see UNITED 93. Great movie. Great reminder that we (those of us in US) are in a war right now.
I’m glad Bush doesn’t bend like the wind and take his cue’s from the wacko libs posting here.
pr:
Hall Monitor in a former life?
Will it play for you if you make less than $100,000/yr? Or if you’re gay, female or a minority?
Do you have to join the Klan to get the secret activation code? Or beat up some queers or bomb some abortion clinics?
Do I have to drive to South Dakota or Texas to pick it up?
All these questions need to be answered.
Grass roots fund raiser? Isn’t that like raising the tide by pissing into the ocean? They just want more “little people” in their party so they don’t seem so obnoxiously top-heavy.
When the Republicans are in office, they can’t pour money into their buddies’ hands fast enough. When the country has spent too much money, where do you think the money went? When we have an expensive war, where do you think the money goes? It goes to all of the huge government contracts for supplies. They want you to think it “goes to the troops”… well, not really. Only a tiny fraction goes to the front lines. The government continues to spend $50 for $2 hammers and $5 per MRE that costs $.25 to make. The troops get a $2 hammer and the $.25 MRE and the big businesses keep the difference.
Take a look here…
http://www.house.gov/budget_democrats/images/fy06/realistic.pdf
…please, tell me where all of that money actually went?
Bush spent the SURPLUS AND the DEFICIT amounts!!!
If you gave me $1000 for supplies and I gave you $10 worth of goods, wouldn’t you be a bit pissed off?! That is exactly how the government spends your money.
Then they use fear mongering, “protection from terrorists”, the governments own special brand of terrorizing their own citizens to justify their wasteful spending just so their friends can make an extra $100 million above their already bloated salaries.
Makes me sick to call myself an American citizen.
Oh dear. Once again MDN chooses to wave its Republican support in our faces.
I mean, rabid Mac advocacy is one thing, but such blatant political partisanship (in any direction) is pretty annoying on a tech-news website.
I just barfed, too! All over a rebublican thank God!
Hey, mac user 47! Did Iraqis hijack those planes? Oh, wait, most of the hijackers (along with their boss, Osama) were from Bush’s bestest buddy country, SAUDI ARABIA. And the others were from Bush’s other bestest buddy in the Middle East, EGYPT. Get your head out of your @ss!
Cheney, Woflowitz, Rumsfeld, Feith and the whole neocon gang had been planning to attack Iraq since about 1992. Only mindless sheep like you can accept this war as somehow justified by the horrific attack on 9/11. Maybe your Glorious Leader should actually spend some time going after THE PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY BLEW UP THE WORLD TRADE CENTER! There’s a novel thought! Jack@ss!
Or perhaps freedom is just too much of a mental burden for you. Perhaps living in a dictatorship makes life easier. Enjoy it, Comrade.
Uh, isn’t Steve Jobs a Democrat? (99% of Apple’s PAC dollars went to Dems in 2004.)
My bet: some customizer is doing it cuz Steve wouldn’t approve of it.
MDN MW: “come”; as in Bush-lovers need to come to their senses
MU 47,
It all comes down to your belief that Bush is somehow associated with God. And that’s the reason you don’t think things through, or acknowledge how badly Bush has fucked everything up he’s touched, including the war.
I would appreciate it if all the trolls would do a spell check because you sound like idiots.
Right click->Spelling->Spelling…
Is the a “I LOVE MAC OS X” version if I hold a Mac house party?
MW: perhaps. Well, it’s worth a try then!
Bush IS GOD, you blaspheme!!!! Nuke the muslim extremists!!! Power to the Good people.
Oh yeah, Apple makes a great computer!
Rush Limbaugh is a Mac user and has been for a long time. Seems to support the stereotype that Mac users are more sophisticated, educated, and have more money.
Hey C:
Under a democratic president (Clinton) we had prosperous times and no deficit. Now we have the largest deficit ever, low conusmer confidence an unjust misguided war, we are losing all of our personal privacy and rights….I could go on and on and on and on.
A usual the democrats have to come in and undo all the damage Republican presidents lay down.
We have a FASCIST leader and it’s getting worse!
I hope your Libertarian leader could do better.
Hell anybody with more than HALF a brain could do better.
Take a deep breath everyone. Ah, much better.
Republican’t aren’t Nazis, and Democrats aren’t Communists, and there are nice people on both sides.
There are nice Republicans and nice Democrats.
Disagreement does not make people evil.
Looks like a “WMD” for midgets!
I’m actually surprised to see there is another Republican in here other than me.
2 entire countries liberated (and transitioning to a more free society) from mass murdering rulers, and you wacko libs claim that’s a big f-up.
If that doesn’t describe what you are really all about then nothing else will –
you hate what is Good and love Evil. Your world is upside down.
Dems are sheep.
Never lecture someone on their politics. It’s a waste of breath.
They are going to introduce a yellow ipod for yellow belly, coward and gutless lib democrats. You will see who is who on the street.
Take the GOP off of this iPod and you’re left with the flag that all of us know and love. We’re all Americans here folks…let’s not forget that. To each is own, right? Be glad we’re free to partake in such…
iMatt, you are the voice of reason, I like it. I
am registered with the Mac party! Let’s all
chill. These are very polarizing subjects that
aren’t going to get solved by cyber-screaming on
a Mac enthusiast site. Let’s all chill, please.
“Go see UNITED 93. Great movie. Great reminder that we (those of us in US) are in a war right now.
I’m glad Bush doesn’t bend like the wind and take his cue’s from the wacko libs posting here.”
What a bunch of bull! As if I need to see a movie about 9-11. I live in NYC. I had friends and family at the WTC. You try listening to all that chaos over a cellphone and then when the buildings collapsed their cellphone went dead.
Idiots like MAC USER 47 is why we’re at war with a country that had NOTHING to do with 9-11. Even the president said that Iraq had nothing to do with 9-11.
Why don’t you get off your fat-ass from all the movie watching and join the army. You’ll get an nice front-row seat of what’s really happening.
The Next GOP Tax Cut
“Someone making a million bucks a year will get a $42,000 tax break. Someone making $25,000 a year will get a $10 tax break. If you make under $50,000 a year, you’ll get around $50”
http://www.alternet.org/story/36150/
Couple years ago, this thread would have been largely pro-Bush/Republican. What happened?
Do Macs make people Democrats? I think we have a right to know.
LIBERALISM IS A MENTAL DISORDER!
Not quivering in a corner like you pansies.
It’s funny cuz it’s all you pussy Repubs who’re fomenting all the fear over a terrorist attack to justify systematically circumventing the consitution and betray American values. Preemtive war is the policy of cowards. Cowards always attack first. But this is all very typical of you obsequious Bush-lovers. Peace is war. Defeat is victory. Cowardice is bravery. Torture is justice. Spying on Americans is protecting Americans. Accountability is blaming the other guy.
The children of the LEFT
Right the “F” on Liberal.
“Cowards always attack first. But this is all very typical of you obsequious Bush-lovers. Peace is war. Defeat is victory. Cowardice is bravery. Torture is justice. Spying on Americans is protecting Americans. Accountability is blaming the other guy.”
Yep.
I wonder if the Dems will offer a “Kerry is Kewl” special edition iPod, too.
The GOP version comes pre-loaded with special videos of Cheney killing the Easter Bunny on the White House lawn, a collection of articulate sound-bites from Bush, FEMA management videos, etc.
The Dem version has clips of Kerry riding his bike, kite-boarding, Hillary posing with everyone, and a special driving instructional video featuring Ted Kennedy.
Well, at least you can’t have sex with your iPod. That’s probably why there is no Democrat one……
Interesting – The GOP (my party BTW) actually being creative for once, instead of just waiting for Libs to attack them. Wow.
This is actually an inventive idea for a political party when you think about it.
As far as the posts: The thread has a theme – demo’s posting grade-school-like name calling. Dissapointing. But when your leaders are doing this, what do you expect the yellow-dogs to do as well right?
Mike and effwerd are making this thread worth reading. MORE MORE!!!
Tale of the Tape: The theory is that someone making a $1m will take that tax break and use it to harbor a family of poor liberals who will cook and clean and complain. Now, how many families with the poor liberals harbor from the cruel world with a $10 tax break? You see, it’s the liberals who are evil and self-promoting.
I wish I were more like Mike. I could simply say: TotT you LOSER LIBERAL! and just be done with it.
MW: approach. You should admire Mike’s direct approach. Bush is like that. Us Americans have a long history of attacking smaller, weaker countries when we are feeling down. Look at Grenada and most of the Central and South American Continents. yes I know Central America is more of a geopolitical continent than a tetonic plate. My intent is geopolitical.
There I go again. I spoke too much again. I’ll never be a good Republican. I was able to give precident to our current actions to deflect blame. Maybe I CAN be a good Republican. Maybe I’m something else. Canadian? Indian? Communist!?
You terrorist loving liberals make us all sick. You are a bunch of whining, cry baby, losers who can thank their lucky stars a great man like George Bush is here to save your sorry butts.
ACK!!
Here’s a few more for the GOP playlist:
Earth Died Screaming – Tom Waits
Galvanize – The Chemical Brothers
BYOB – System of a Down
Bodies – Drowning Pool
With God on Our Side – Bob Dylan
The Lost Soul – The Watson Family
Eunuch Provocateur – The Mars Volta
The only problem is that the display lies about which track is playing. The eff-ing rethuglicans lie about EVERYTYHING!
Magic Word: Daily. As in The Daily Show, where I can get some truth about the criminals in the administration.
Thorin: All hail the Greatest Generation! An oft quoted line from an oft quoted leader. Raise the Rabble Thorin!
Liberals = Terrorist Lovers
Liberals should all go for a nice long walk through the middle east or certain parts of Africa and see how long these cretans let them keep their heads attached to their bodies.
Since Eisenhower left office no Republican President has had a balanced budget. Not Nixon, Ford, Reagan, Bush I or ‘W’. So much for the G.O.P. being the party of fiscal responsibility. BTW- Clinton had a balanced budget, ‘W’ hasn’t even come close.
The G.O.P. is supposed to be the party better at Foreign Policy, Intelligence and Defense. Does anybody seriously believe that our relations with our allies, our Intelligence or our Armed Forces are in good shape and are guided by effective policy?
The G.O.P. is supposed to be the party better at economic polices. They claim that their policies will create jobs, wealth, opportunity, etc. The lowest unemployment in modern US history occurred during the Clinton Administration. Our nation has suffered a net loss of jobs under every Republican Administration since Eisenhower left office.
Under ‘Every Child Left Behind’ we now have a 50+% drop-out rate in the latino and black communities nationally. The overall HS Graduation rate is now under 70%. That is not a prescription for a bright future for our nation.
There is more, but you get the idea.
I like ice cream, enchiladas, beer, nice cars
and, oh yeah, Macs! There must be a better
subject for us to discuss.MDN post a new item
quickly before everyone has a coronary please!
MW – rather: I would rather open a vein than
watch this continue, but I guess it’s like a
train wreck. I can’t look away.
Are the Republican iPods going to come with earbuds or butt plugs?
Republicans would be easier to take if they weren’t doing such a thorough job of screwing the lower 80% of the economic strata in the US. Tax cuts for the rich, but increased government spending. Who’s going to pay for that? You and me. Increaed interest rates on student loans to keep people from getting too much education and keep paying the head of Sallie Mae $750K per year to run a goverment (read taxpayer, as in you and me) guaranteed loan program that would be headed by a $150K per year Civil Servant if the program hadn’t been “privatized”.
I could go on and on. The Republicans chose a drunken liar to head the country and only got him in office by getting the Supreme Court to agree that his civil rights would be violated if the votes were counted in Florida. Why should anyone forgive them.
Oh Eric, your are right. I could kill someone with my iPod (3rd Gen). It’s be much harder with a nano or a shuffle. I couldn’t kill thousands though, but I could have sex in an office while wearing one.
What’s worse, a sin with one or murdering thousands and taking the civil liberties of millions?
Don’t get into a moral argument with the current administration as your yard stick.
I don’t have to be a Rep or a Dem to say any of this. Just a human.
How about a Green Party model?
No wait… Ralph Nader would probably have it recalled.
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It comes with a special built in wireless transmitter that lets them know what you are listening to.
Nice spelling Christoff. I love it when illiterates respond. I assume you meant “croutons” instead of your misspelled “cretans”. I always like it when I walk among the croutons. They go well with salad.
The only song on the GOP iPod should be “American Idiot” by Greenday. They wrote it especially for him.
“You pinko, liberal, commies make us all sick! You are pathetic. Immediate 2nd grade bashing when MDN posts anything that mentions a Republican. You people will never get any where in life.”
A good representative of the conservative movement. They are so blinded by their own narrow views they have to draw these broad sweeping generalizations about all people who think different(ly) than they do.
It’s like watching a bunch of programmed robots.
And by the way, by “us” who exactly do you mean? ‘Us’ as in you and your pet iguana?
And BTW, sadly for you dear fellow American, there are plenty of “us” who are getting along just fine in life. How about you?
Fresh news item MDN, fast, now!
MW- bring: Bring it!
The Bush economy is fabulous, mainly due to the Bush investment tax cuts in 2003. The ineffective Dem tax cuts were tried in 2001 and the job growth and investment and slumped for another couple of years. Since the Bush tax cuts, millions of well-paying, high-quality jobs have been created, and the boom will continue for several more years (i.e., until Dem economic policies are put in place, by either party).
Iraq is at a turning point now that they’ve brought all key factions together and a new prime minister in their new, constitutionally-established government. Whether they fail, or succeed, will be determined in the next 6 months. Thank goodness we have someone with ba**s as the US President right now. After a brilliant win, Bush certainly screwed up the occupation and liberation of Iraq in ’03 and ’04, but they corrected course and have had it right for at least the past year. There’s NO question, however, that liberating the millions in Iraq and Afghanistan was the morally correct thing to do. And if it eventually works, will be a HUGE contribution to a safer, saner world, for all of us.
iPropaganda
One of these days all you so-called conservatives will thank the left they were trying to stop the erosion of civil liberties in this country. In the meantime, I’ll just refer to all of you as accomplices.
And its really funny to hear people vilify someone for being a liberal. You’ve been brainwashed into thinking that liberal means communist. Thats really hilarious and sad at the same time. I consider myself quite liberal on many issues but I’d never argue against capitalism unless it was completely out of hand and had taken over our government and was being used against us…
One of these days you’ll realize being a liberal is more about freedom. Maybe one day you’ll realize that.
Christoff, why do the “other people” of the world hate us so much? Because they hate everything? Nobody likes to be defeated and humiliated and made to behave in ways that are contrary to their beliefs.
If you think other people hate because of geography, then you need to get your learn-on.
How would American feel if Iran defeated our army and took over our country? Or to a lesser degree, defeated Canada and Mexico and destroyed our economy and held us at the end of a sword? We would be humiliated and angry. We would want to kill any Iranian we saw.
That goes for any nation to any nation.
What we are seeing is human nature. We need to get our politics out of other counties and clean up our own house. We need to rely on our own energy primarily. We have the means. It sickens me to know how we get our energy. It bothers me that I drive so far to work and that I’m a hipocrite to support the oil economy.
Bush to his credit seems to be slowly learning these lessons, but in the meantime he is destroying what America is an what we stand for. We are America the Greedy Cowards. We are America the Brave, America the Land of Hope, America the Land of Freedom.
Be free or die. That goes for Americans and Palestinians, Iranians, Russians and Tamal Tigers. We all deserve our own nation with our own values.
More for the GOP playlist (this is fun):
Girl in the War – Josh Ritter
Already Dead – Beck
Dead Man Blues – Jelly Roll Morton
I’m a Killer – Vini and the Demons
Am I a Good Man – Them Two
Special Delivery (Mission Accomplished) – MC Frontalot
2 Minutes to Midnight – Iron Maiden
Jesus Saves – Slayer
The Torture Never Stops – Frank Zappa
The Enemy – Anthrax
Losers, Boozers, & Heroes – Firehose
You Fucked Up – Ween
The Mission – Queensryche
Dick is a Killer – Rx
Dogs – Pink Floyd
Effwerd:
The Mission – Queensryche
That is a damn good song.
All the morons callng Liberals ‘terrorist lovers’ are almost funny if they weren’t so scary. They collectively have to overcompensate for their viewpoint by spinning anyone who thinks in opposition to them as being an extremist. Their puny brains cannot reason so they just paint with a broad brush and they feel all better about their hate.
A couple of weeks ago a news programme over here in the UK carried an item about a march by Iraq war veterans in the USA.
At some point during the march, they went past a factory in the South which was involved in making armoured personnel carriers for the Army or Marines.
Reporter goes to the fence of the factory and asks one of the guys what he thinks of the vets marching against the war.
His reply actually contained the phrase…”they had it coming to them cos they’re worshipping the wrong God”.
I’m sure that says something about something!
Hammer: “All the morons callng Liberals ‘terrorist lovers’ are almost funny if they weren’t so scary.”
I tend to agree, no-one likes folks that want to kill them, I mean please! The WTC – NY had all walks of Americans within.
Still waiting on a news item to save us from this MDN!
Kate, was it morally right to “liberate” the Iraqi oil fields without a plan to win the peace? Was it morally right to throw out decades of Iraq invasion planning to prove that we can invade a country unilaterally with less than 200k troops? Was it morally right to put trillions of dollars to “liberate” a few million Arabs when $50 billion could keep AIDS from killing millions of Africans and stop to wars? What about Darfor?
What about Haiti? Who’s making PEACE in the world? You don’t force democracy at the point of a gun. Go take American history and learn how many times we forced a coop here and an invasion there and see we have pretty close to a 100% failure rate.
How long will the Iraqis be fighting the insurgency? Thousands are being killed and kidnapped. It is a civil war like Vietnam with death squads roving the streets. US forces don’t understand the culture and can’t speak the language. They never wanted us there. Sadam was their problem not our and now they have never been less secure and more afraid.
Under Sadam terrible things happened every couple years. Now terrible things are a daily occurrence. Kids used to play in the streets and go to school and go to church without being kidnapped and murdered.
Ruining Iraq was not morally right. It could have been different. It should never nave been done in the first place though.
The war in this forum is almost as effective as Bush’s war in Iraq!
Christoff is right on the money. Nora Harris, I suppose you think Hitler was victimized by the US too. You make me sick. It’s really scary how many f*cked up liberlas there are. What would you idiots be doing if Iran does invade the US via a terrorist nuke or other means? What would you do? Tell them you’re sorry for being an American? It’s all our fault that they are crazy society suppressing phsycos. F off all of you piece of sh*t libs.
You know… I always find it amusing when Cons call Libs cowards. I mean… how many times did Cheney defer? Where was Bush when his country called?
Course maybe I’m thinking of some other type of courage. Perhaps Cons mean courage, as in the courage required to chain a black guy to the bumper of a pickup and drive around town. Or the courage to tie a gay kid to a fence and beat him to death. Or the courage to eviscerate the Constitution. Or the courage to boldly lie to the American people. Maybe it’s the courage to send our sons to their death in an oil war.
If that’s what they mean, than I agree, conservatives are way more courageous than Libs.
Yeah… could be this is all just a semantics issue.
“His reply actually contained the phrase…”they had it coming to them cos they’re worshipping the wrong God”.
I’m sure that says something about something!”
Unfortunately, yes, it does. But please don’t generalize.
Oh the disgusting smell of G Stank! What a waste of space on this planet that chap is. He sure whimped out when Jay Rice challenged him to a debate at the London Pubs. Hillarious!
The Mission – Queensryche
That is a damn good song.
Yes. That whole album rocks.
The hatred the far right has for the left, and the stunning disdain and fear the far left has for the right is what is ruining american politics. The sad thing is that neither side will even closely approach admiting their phobias they’ve been spoon fed to believe about the other side.
As I count it there are a lot more people who are left on this site that there are on the right. Sadly, there are very few who want to do anything but scream.
Good for MDN, generating hit revenue. Bad for the USA.
MDN word is GIVE, as in give each other a break and try to dialog instead of flame. Geez… this is as bad as talking about the french.
Top Ten Reasons The Republicans are giving out iPods:
10. It’s cheaper than handing out tractors
Repbulicans suck, Democrats suck. Vote…um…vote….er…vote……..for me, yeah that’s it.
I stand (up)
I support (walls)
And I love everyone (that I don’t hate).
Chilll people….everyone leans one way or another from the political center. Both ideologies have some merit. But the thing they share is a love of freedom.
And most importantly,people from both use Macs!
Have actually served in the Armed Forces? How about in a time of war? How many of their kids are serving today?
(Sound of Crickets)
Exactly
okay… I don’t know what his says about me, but I’ve got more respect for those that have a definite opinion (red or blue) than those who whine about the tone of the debate.
Love is for pussy liberals?
Killing is for real men. Well, when all the real men have killed themselves let me know so I can help rebuild what’s left.
Karen, please take the time to know your opponent and spell their name right so they take you seriously.
If another nation attacked mine I would fight to the death. That was my point. I would expect nothing less than anyone else. Vietnam was our making, not a threat to us. Hitler and WWII Japan were direct threats. We fought to the death and any American who refused should have been denaturalized. That means they would no longer be a citizen.
I saw a reason to go after Osama bin Laden. I agreed with the decision to attack the Taliban. It’s too bad that an oil pipeline across that country was a motivation for that war, but those people needed to be liberated.
Afghanistan was a diverse country of Muslims, Christians, and Buddhists in the cradle of civilization. There is still a very rich history buried in the sands that has been forgotten. The Taliban destroyed that history further and took freedoms and tried to change how people thought. It was our right to destroy them and give what was left to the people there. our job is not yet done. The war rages there as well, but as Donald Rumsfeld said, there aren’t any hard targets in Afghanistan so it’s not much in the news.
Iraq was a terrible mistake. I was behind the moral argument though in the beginning, but Bush forced the war. Why? What was the big hurry? Iraq was terrorist-free. Iraq couldn’t hurt us. Sadam was contained. Millions weren’t dying.
To those how make the Hitler argument: Our war in Iraq is NOTHING like the motivation to fight WWII. There are a thousand little Hitlers in Africa. If you want to fight genocide, look there.
In response to the “F off all you … libs”, well you agree that we care a great deal about our civilization. You and me. You think your way and I’ll think mine, but if a REAL threat attacks me and my country I will be right beside you (even Karen) killing them all.
Coming loaded with Neil Young’s Living With War would be a service we could all live with.
You people who are bemoaning the tenor of the dialog here need to take things a little less seriously. Sure, such banal rhetoric disabuses no one of their predilections, but it can be loads of fun. As long as no one takes themselves too seriously.
Well, no one with any sense and maturity. The toddlers will always throw their tantrums.
“Googled the quote, found five sites giving the attribution to Churchill and none to others, gotta link?”
From none other than The Churchill Centre, “the international focus for study of Winston Churchill, his life and times”:
http://www.winstonchurchill.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=112
Does it work for big business while pretending to support the Christian right? Does it lie for big oil and get Americans killed in the process?
Whatever it does, ANYTHING that helps the wealthy is a good cause! We all know they live in hard times!
29% and falling… democracy in action.
I heard Halibuton has a new suit designed to help the wearer survive any natural disaster.
effwerd, speak english you big fat poop-head!
MDN Magic Word = job
as in Don’t you have a job that you could be doing instead of having pointless political debates
After thousands of lives lost, tens of thousands wounded, millions (in Iraq) still living without basic infrastructure or security, strained relations with half of the world, civil liberties trampled and at least a half-trillion dollars spent there remains one question:
Where is OBL?
effwerd lamenting the fact that toddlers are throwing tantrums is an oxymoron
Time for a history lesson:
In 1776 Liberals fought the British monarchy for independence and freedom of the American people. Conservatives, on the other hand, sided with the monarchy, which was fighting a war of wealth acquisition.
Ironically, at the epicenter of each conflict lies a dynasty of inbreds named George.
King George
Little brother, do you know what “lament” means? Look it up then examine my comments again.
effwerd, speak english you big fat poop-head!
Heh.
mugwump
Here’s another
Top Ten Reasons The Republicans are giving out iPods:
Per our President, “the iPod is a result of government research into microdrive technology.”
[actually, IBM invented the microdrive, couldn’t find any buyers, sold it to Hitachi, then Apple came up with an idea.]
HEY! Appleinsider has a scoop on an Apple event next week!
I bet they are f-ing liberals too!
Hey, MU47 — the “liberation” of two repressed countries would be great ‘n’ all, if:
1) it were actually true, and 2) if that was the actual reason given for war.
Afghanistan isn’t free. It basically consists of the city-state of Kabul, which is run by a former UNOCAL executive. The rest of the country is run by heroin warlords and the Taliban (remember them?).
Remember, your fearless President attacked Iraq (taking his eye off the ball in Afghanistan) because Iraq had WMDs and was connected to 9/11. Neither of which turned out to be true. He talked of mushroom clouds and biological attacks, scaring retarded sheep like you into voting for him in ’04.
Oh, and by the way, mr. “Conservative,” is nation-building and playing policeman to the world now one of the planks of your political platform? Okay, then, Mr. “Conservative” — who’s next? Iran? North Korea? Zimbabwe? Turkmenistan? Who’s going to pay for it? You? Who’s going to die for it? You?
I didn’t think so. Jerkoff.
MDN manages to do it again. What does this have to do with Macs? Nothing.
But it does explain why MDN is wrong in so many of their takes. ‘Cuz the entire MDN editorial staff are fucking retarded.
http://www.itmfa.com/
big brother… look up the definition of oxymoron and you’ll understand my comments
“Cuz the entire MDN editorial staff…”
lol – stop – you’re killing me! That was too funny
Save America – Vote Libertarian!
And the best perk of all:
The special republican iPods come with all phone conversations from the past 5 years by anyone and everyone in the United States! WOW!!!
For an extra added charge, I bet you can get everyone’s medical records, too!
God bless GWB. And if you blast my message, please answer me one question: Do you think he’s intelligent?
Little brother, the word lament cancels out the need to even consider the word oxymoron, which is why I didn’t rag on you about it. After all, an oxymoron applies to figures of speech, not any delivery of a self-contradictory idea.
It’s okay, though. I realize you have such trouble because of all those times I dropped you on your head that one day.
I told mom she should’ve aborted you.
We are at war with Eurasia. We have always been at war with Eurasia.
“I suppose you think Hitler was victimized by the US too”
History day today at MDN:
Far from being victimized, Hitler was helped by Prescott Bush who architected finacial support for the Nazi party.
This had nothing to do with ideology though. Then, as now, the Bush family was practical: they (like many conservatives) thought Hitler would win the war, and wanted to be sure that they were on the winning side.
Starter link below, but if you really wish to steep yourself in the sordid history of the Bush Family, their links to the Nazis, and systematic manuipulation of US intelligence, go Googling. It’s all there.
How Bush’s grandfather helped Hitler’s rise to power
I’m a Repub and think the following-
Pro- Legalize Pot
Pro- Choice
Mod- Enviro (where it makes sense)
Anti- Illegal immigrant
Pro- Capitalism (it’s human nature)
Anti- Religious Right
Could give a crap about- Gay marriage
Pro- Stem cell research & utilization
Pro- Freaky sex!
Most of my Repub & Demo pals think the same way (maybe not the phreeky sex part).
So let’s not be so broad in our brush strokes
Oh yeah- for all those conspiracy theorists out there, the Gov (any branch) is too stupid to do anything covert and keep it quiet. One only need to look as far as their nearest DMV office (State agency but, it scales).
Strategery-
IBM didn’t sell the Micro drive to Hitachi, they sold their whole Drive division to Hitachi.
There was a market for the micro drive but it didn’t explode until the ipod.
So is MDN trying to drive away 70% of their readership?
Magic word: coming. I feel a little throw-up coming.
I’m surprised they needed a special edition iPod for the GOP.
Doesn’t it already come in WHITE?
Bad move MDN… Just keep politics out of here please. Even though it might not have been meant as one, this story really looks like nothing short of a blatant GOP ad, with the instructions and all. It would have been a different thing to just tell about the fact that you can actually get a special edition Republican iPod.
And I would have said this even if it were the Democrats offering iPods.
“I’m surprised they needed a special edition iPod for the GOP.
Doesn’t it already come in WHITE?”
Now THAT’S Funny!
“Oh yeah- for all those conspiracy theorists out there, the Gov (any branch) is too stupid to do anything covert and keep it quiet. One only need to look as far as their nearest DMV office (State agency but, it scales).”
Steev… piece of advice, read the article or smoke your pot. In either case resist the urge to comment on what you don’t understand.
“Katrina, Harriet Myers, The Dubai Port Deal, skyrocketing gas prices, shrinking wages for working people, staggering debt, astronomical foreign debt, outsourcing, open borders, contempt for the opinion of the American people, the war on science, media manipulation, faith based initives, a cavalier attitude toward fundamental freedoms– this President has run the most arrogant and out-of-touch administration in my lifetime, perhaps, in any American’s lifetime.
You can make a case that Abraham Lincoln did what he had to do, the public be damned. If you roll the dice on your gut and you’re right, history remembers you well. But, when your gut led you from one business failure to another, when your gut told you to trade Sammy Sosa to the Cubs, and you use the same gut to send our sons and daughters to fight and die in a distraction from the real war on terror, then history will and should be unapologetic in its condemnation.
None of this, by the way, should be interpreted as an endorsement of the opposition party. The Democrats are equally bankrupt. This is the second crime of our age. Again, historically speaking, its times like these when America needs a vibrant opposition to check the power of a run-amuck majority party. It requires it. It doesn’t work without one. Like the high and low tides keep the oceans alive, a healthy, positive opposition offers a path back to the center where all healthy societies live.
We’re being governed by paper-mache patriots; brightly painted red, white and blue, but hollow to the core. Both parties have mastered the cynical arts of media manipulation and fund raising. They’ve learned the lessons of Watergate and burn the tapes. They have learned to divide the nation for their own gain. They have demonstrated the willingness to exploit any tragedy for personal advantage. The contempt they have for the American people is without parallel.”
MDN Magic Word: army, ironically enough.
lol… it’s amazing how intelligence lands in the minds of the younger and not in the older.
“the word lament cancels out the need to consider the word oxymoron”?
HOWLING with laughter… you still don’t get it.
YOU ARE THE OXYMORON TOOL! Gawd…. can’t believe I had to spell it out for you. What a serious, brain dead, public school drop out tool.
You mom didn’t abort me because this whole internet relationship isn’t real, I’m not really your little brother, I’m someone laughing at you across cyberspace. Is that plain enough for you to understand?
You’re a tool.
And everyone who reads your silly little posts knows it. Except you.
smokes draino
Cloak + Dagger,
Read things more carefully-
I don’t smoke it I just want it legalized because we are spending too damn much fighting a internal war where the enemy is the casual user.
Filling up our prisons at ≈ $35K per inmate/year (Ca.) is a waste of money.
What are you talking about the UFO’s hiding in a Gov warehouse?
Once again, too much bureaucratic self interest in this country for anything to remain a secret. The people in the Gov are just like everyone else, undereducated, self absorbed folks, looking out for #1.
You mom didn’t abort me because this whole internet relationship isn’t real, I’m not really your little brother, I’m someone laughing at you across cyberspace. Is that plain enough for you to understand?
(Wow. You really are stupid.)
Thanks, little brother, for spelling out that I, the last child of my parents, do not have a younger brother. Given your clever play on comment-board names, I might’ve never figured that out.
it’s amazing how intelligence lands in the minds of the younger and not in the older.
Your level of self-delusion is quite impressive.
YOU ARE THE OXYMORON TOOL!
Ooh, let me try… LOL. HOWLING with laughter. You STILL don’t get it. YOU STILL AREN’T USING THE WORD OXYMORON CORRECTLY.
Steev
OK, extended words to bore the readers and ruin the joke. IBM invented the microdrive in 1999, sales never materialized and IBM sold the microdrive along with the whole hard drive division to Hitachi in 2002 per CNET. “In 2003 and 2004, the mini iPod and other music players made mini drives a hot commodity.”
And?
Our President still believes “the iPod is a result of government research into microdrive technology.” Oooh, Oooh “and electrochemistry and signal compression”
How about that! IBM, Hitachi, Toshiba, along with the Fraunhofer Institute, the developer of the MP3 codec, and Sony, AT&T and our favorite, Steve Jobs, are all part of government research!
And why did all these U.S. and foreign corps join together in this research. Per our President, “They did so for one reason: It turned out that those were the key ingredients for the development of the iPod.”
Thanks W!
See! That’s why the GOP can give away iPods!
I swear to god that MDN just posts these political articles so that a political war will ensue and not only make their site look really popular, but they’re probably reading all these comments and laughing their asses off.
So, if an MDN staff member is reading this right now:
Thanks. It amuses me too.
I hear people screaming ways to save America and mentioning political parties.. But it’s political parties themselves that are ruining America. I don’t blame Democrats. I don’t blame Republicans. I don’t blame anyone except for Thomas Jefferson and Alexander Hamilton.
It’s too bad we didn’t listen to Washington when he said avoid political parties. We’d actually be united.
To all your folks complaining about a political discussion on the MDN site…
I am thrilled, absolutely thrilled, that important issues have infiltrated the toy/tool sites. I want everyone everywhere to put aside their “bread and circuses” for a while, for just one thread per site, and discuss stuff that actually matters…
That being said, a RED iPod? I want one. NOW!
Steev- Given your position on issues, what makes you think you are a Republican? They’re similar to mine and I quit the Republican party when I caught on to Bush I’s give away of the country to big business and the wealthy. Then I saw the level to which they would stoop to try to gain power during the Clinton years (I’ll bet it really pisses them off to know that after everything Cliton could be elected tomorrow if it was legal). And the repeated making fools of religious conservatives by the Republican party by lying to them that their issues are Republican issues just to get the vote, then nothing ever happens. I’ll never go back.
But I think the truth about Republican politicians will come out. They will definitely capitalize the Con in CONservative. I wonder how many Republican Congressmen will be in jail by the end of Bush II’s reign?
I’m thinking there is a very red Right and a very blue Left and the rest of us are kind of purple. I’m pretty sure I’m OK with how gay that seems!
That thing looks fugly. Like a ’70s custom van painted by someone’s brother.
They should take Bush off the sample screen and just leave it blank if they want people to actually want it.
His approval rating is 29 percent–and lower than ever even among people who watch only Fox News all day (like the Vice President), specifically so as to avoid ever having to bump up against anything they might not like going on in reality.
The iPod’s approval rating, if measured, would probably be about 99 percent.
You do the math.
It is astounding, by the way, that Bush’s approval could fall so low in a period when we have an dedicated propaganda channel for him and his party (Fox), with market penetration even Pravda would envy. (Google “Fox News effect” for details.)
It just shows: you can fool some of the people all the time, but not all of them. I just hope he can be emasculated by a loss of control of Congress before he weakens us still further with another disastrous war, or more tax cut for the rich.
Republicans in Congress need to read about the history of parliamentary interactions with James I and Charles I. (A good book on this is Johann P. Sommerville, Politics and Ideology.)
Bush and his lawyers are espousing a theory of the head of state’s inherent power to “dispense with” laws that literally caused two revolutions in England during the seventeenth century, and brought about modern parliamentary democracy and the division of powers in the U.S. Constitution.
There is simply no line of constitutional argument they could make that would have made the Founders–if they could see all of this–feel more certain that everything they worked and fought for had been flushed away.
But we can’t be bothered to really pay much attention.
Anyway. Don’t get me started!
Bush not only shows “The contempt they have for the American people is without parallel.”, but for all people of modest means. The Elite have no time or love for 98% of humanity, unless it makes them richer. We are in their way, outsourcing combined with technological advancements, make the rest of us barriers in their insane drive for more weath concentration. We are merely their tools for killing ‘enemies’ or guinea pigs. Liberals need to organize, and articulate a vision of peace, freedom and prosperity for all.
Okay, a new Fox News motto just came to me!
“Fox News: We Make Pravda Look Subtle.”
Thoughts raised by watching this, which you genuinely just could not make up:
http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/12/fox-nsa-traitor/
Holy Cow! Not even an iPod would turn me Republican. I’d take one of those Creative MP3 players over that. Maybe even one of those Nano Apple ripoffs.
29% and falling! Let us never repeat an election disaster such as ’04.
Lurker-
(this thread is getting stale so you prob won;t see this)
I’m registered as a Repub. That’s why I think I’m a Repub. I was just trying to express that not everyone in the Repub party is Ultra-Conservative Bible thumper as some posters on this site state. That said, I haven’t left the party because if all the Moderates leave the party, then it will eventually become just that. I’ve often thought about becoming a Libertarian but I’ve stuck with the party because I see other’s with the similar opinions as mine.
Furthermore, I don’t believe that every Demo is a Liberal tree hugger.
I really think that most people, the silent ones, not concerned enough to voice their opinions are generally moderate.
It’s too bad the most folks are too caught up in their daily lives to play an active role in our Gov.
S
Okay, I’ll add to this. Liberal’s root is liberty. Guess that’s communism for ya!
Steev – I am surprised you’re still reading the thread. I only looked again because I so directly addressed you.
I think there is a huge moderate majority. The trouble is that we are split between parties which have been hijacked by leaderships (RNC and DNC) which are focused only on acquisition of power. Given the incoherence of the Democrats, the only hope for the country is for the Repiublican party to split, at which time the moderate faction would be joined by a boatload of moderate Democrats, then maybe we could start heading back to America. I have a hard time identifying myself to people as a Democrat, but I can’t stand looking in the mirror and identifying myself as a Republican.
it’s amazing.. you try and explain. doesn’t matter. You’re an idiot effwerd.. and yes… oxymoron is being used correctly.
From http://www.dictionary.com
“Greek oxumron, from neuter of oxumros, pointedly foolish”
what a tool.
Lurker and Steve,
“the only hope for the country is for the Repiublican party to split, at which time the moderate faction would be joined by a boatload of moderate Democrats,”
NOW you’re talking.
The problem I see w/ Steev is that (like many conservative moderates), it doesn’t really matter what his personal beliefs are… he votes neocon.
pls pardon the bad spelling…
“Per our President, “They did so for one reason: It turned out that those were the key ingredients for the development of the iPod.””
Does this mean George W. Bush invented the iPod, just like Al Gore invented the internet?
http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/
Baby Huey vs The Dauphin
by digby
They really didn’t need to do this poll on whether Clinton outperformed Bush. It’s obvious to anyone who lived through the era. What the story fails to mention is that Clinton outperformed Bush while fighting off the rabid, slavering GOP congress of Newt Gingrich and Trent Lott that was determined not only to thwart his program but used every institutional lever of power they had to destroy him personally. He wasn’t perfect, but the guy had the most amazing grace under pressure I’ve ever seen. He even showed good humor about it most of the time:
“I’m a lot like Baby Huey. I’m fat. I’m ugly. But if you push me down, I keep coming back.”
Bush by contrast has had a free hand. He had an historical moment that could have brought the country and the entire world together — which he decided instead to use as an opportunity to aggressively assert arrogant partisan and American power. Rather than being a “uniter not a divider” as he promised in the campaign, he roared into office with his one vote majority and treated the Democrats like lackeys, behaving as if he had a mandate to enact the most extreme items on the GOP agenda. He used patriotism as a bludgeon to intimidate all dissent against his inexplicable war with Iraq. At every turn he behaved with insolence and hubris and his failure has been manifest. Now he lives in a bubble, wandering around dazed and confused about what is happening to him — which is not the result of Democratic partisanship, I might add, but rather the assessment of the American people. (The Democrats were paralyzed during most of his term.) Perhaps that’s why his fall has been so steady — the slow realization among the people that being a leader takes more than a manly swagger and a down home accent.
Bill Clinton may have been an imperfect human being but he was a president. This guy is, and always was, just a brand name in a suit.
All this stupid political ranting makes me so proud to be Canadian. Get over yourselves and talk about iPods…. I believe, scrollscrollscrollscrollscrollscroll…yes indeed…this is an Apple site, not a Bush bash. There are plenty of forums for your rabid thoughts….go find one.
Nobody came up with “electric eye” by Judas Priest? I would think some of the right wingers would remember that one!
Lurker-
Interesting idea- a split. I’d never considered it.
How do we sow the seeds?
I think we will (unfortunately) need a charismatic leader to first get >30% behind him/her, then we choose the time/conditions and he/she springs the idea of a split, with a plea to the Demo-Mods for support. It might have to coincide with some big Repub blunder (I’m thinking something on the scale of a SERIOUS attack on RvsW).
S
from c
“So does the GOP model censor music and the Democrat model just drain your bank account?
Vote Libertarian.”
I think the GOPv.2 model can handle both of those options quite well now.
Let me just say a couple things:
1. Please tell me this shit is a joke
2. To republicans y’all need to think for y’all own damn selves and stop walking around with y’alls heads up y’alls asses
3. I can’t say much good about democrats either cause we’re not doing shit to stop shit!
4. There is no 4, I( just wanted to do some shit to stir up the fucking pot and get people thinking
impeach Bush!
oh can o get an amen
and bush ain’t god cheney neither
So, “Mac User 47”, “Democowards”, “Condoleeza” and “Karen”…
How about you stick your “brave” little necks out and talk about your own service to your country. (Before you get started Karen, spreading your legs and becoming a stay-at-home-mom doesn’t count. And the correct term is, “Housewife”, you “F”.) As a military veteran, I can forgive my fellow Democrats for their anti-war stance and their calls for peace. Why? Because they act as they believe. There is no deception in an individual who strives for world peace and aschews military service.
What sickens me, is reading the spew excreted from so-called Republicans like you, sitting on your collective @sses, calling liberals “yellow”, “communists” and “terrorist-lovers”. And yet, you are the ones hiding behind the Bush—not the President, the shrub surrounding your house. You are the first to buy guns to “protect yourselves” from the “bad guys”. You are the first to bar your windows and build protective bomb shelters underground. Fact is, YOU are the cowards.
You hate liberals in part because you can’t fathom people who care about people. Because you only care about yourself and what happens to you; which is why the vast majority of you wouldn’t be caught dead joining the military.
If Bush reinstated the draft, yeah, I’d expect to see Democrats protesting en mass. What’s sick, is you hypocritical “pro-war” cronies would all scatter and hide under the nearest rock while begging mom and dad to pull a few strings to get your National Guard pass.
I already served. You never will.
Pussies.
Steev and Jim
Guess we’re “looking for a leader”
It would have to be a current Republican. I used to think John McCain might be the one, but he’s started crapping all over himself recently. I am so unskilled at politospeak that I’m never quire sure what politicians are saying. They can appear to be saying something you might agree with, but when it’s translated into action it usually means BOHICA. It’ll have to be one smart, quick and couageous individual. I don’t think we’ve seen them yet.
We need to get back to basics “a government of the people, by the people and for the people” and companies are not people. If we could get that straight, we’d be on a better path.