“Sources at the company told me this week that Microsoft will soon delay the release of Windows Vista Beta 2 from December 7, 2005 to sometime in January or February 2006. However, because the Vista development schedule is extremely time constrained, the company will try and make up lost time by eliminating one of the planned release candidate (RC) milestones that were planned for later in the process,” Paul Thurrott reports for WinInfo.
“Previously, sources had revealed to me that Microsoft would at least delay the release of Windows Vista Beta 2 until late December. This more recent delay suggests that the company is having a difficult time meeting its internal shipping criteria for Beta 2, which is considered a major milestone release and will be made widely available to testers and the public. It’s not known at this time whether the delay will affect related product releases such as Internet Explorer (IE) 7.0 Beta 2 and Windows Media Player 11 Beta 1, both of which were also originally set for a December 7 public release,” Thurrott reports.
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There’s a sucker born every minute…
yeah, whatever. if they delay any version of vista, they will happen the same thing for official vista coming the end of 2006. well, we’re not sure. you need a lot of RAM to operate vista. that’s not cool. just use mac if you don’t want waste time.
Man, if Thurott, MS-Shill Extraordinaire and Bill Gates personal turd polisher, sounds doubtful in his column about Vista, you’ve gotta believe that things are pretty damn BAD!
If Vista slips to 2007…
Exciting times ahead!
MDN magic Word: GIVES
Now we’ll see if Microsoft gets as good as it gives.
Edward,
Grammar is your friend.
MW: Before, as in, “Think before you speak.”
I wonder how that will pan out for Apple’s realease of Leopard? In other words, would it be more prudent to have Leopard on sale at the exact time that Vista is released, or before, or does it really matter?
Leopard’s release either before or after Vista will make Vista look like turn of the century software. I think Leopard after is better because it will give everyone a chance to try Vista and complain about this and that not being improved, and then Leopard will come out without those problems and way more functionality, and just stomp on Vista.
Since Apple doesn’t have to spend time fixing security issues, my question is where is Apple headed with Leopard? Is Apple going to beat MS to the punch (see leaked memos) and make Leopard more seamlessly integrated with .Mac and Web 2.0-type services? Will it be simple-just works to securely access my information/content/video from anywhere, at anytime over the Internet?
Every time MS hears a rumor of another new technology coming in Tiger (most recent: big changes in Finder), they have to go back to Vista to try and make it seem similar… leading to more delays.
Vista is aptly named. It refers to views of things that are a long way off… like deadlines that don’t get closer… they just keep moving back.
So Vista is once again pushed back. Now, why doesn’t the market react to this by lowering MSFT share price? Why is that only Apple gets a blow from Wall Strret..even after anouncing positive results. As you can deduct, I’m ignorant when it cones to the stock market *whistles*
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Uh, Leopard needs to come out BEFORE people make the investment in VISTA folks. Think about it. If VISTA is going to require new hardware, people are not going to buy new hardware AND VISTA just to dump it for a Mac in 6 months or less. People just don’t spend that way. Leopard needs to come out before VISTA and really out shine VISTA (well, not that THAT will be hard to do since OS X out shines whatever MS . . . well, you get my drift). The fact that people have been waiting so long for the successor to XP will help them seriously consider a Mac when they are STILL waiting for it after yet ANOTHER major release of OS X.
I’ve was told months ago by someone on the beat tesing team that at best Vista will be delayed until first quarter 2007. Microsoft has know that for quite awhile but will not go public with the info to keep the hardware/software businesses from revolting when they realize their big Christmas season won’t happen.
People and companies will not buy or transition to Vista the day it ships. They will wait until the reviews are in to determine the cost/benefit. During that month or two, while people are focused on transitioning OSes, Leopard should be released.
If Leopard is released first, people will still wait until Vista ships to before doing any comparison.
IMHO, Apple should keep all details of Leoprd under wraps until The Steve officially launches it. That will make it impossible for M$ to copy it or even talk about inventing it. It would be great to watch M$ sqirm in the weeks and months that follow.
“Uh, Leopard needs to come out BEFORE people make the investment in VISTA folks. Think about it.”
If 10.5 comes out before Vista (by even one day), the press will trumpet Vista as being “newer” than Leopard. If 10.5 comes out too long after Vista, Apple does risk missing the chance of PC users upgrading to Mac (assuming anybody really cares about Vista by then). Neither scenario is the best for Apple.
Apple needs to ship their OSes when Apple is ready; why hold back 10.5 over MS’s slipping schedule? We haven’t seen the last of Vista’s delays. Apple needs to keep their products on the fast track, releasing at a pace MS can only envy.
Don’t you all know?
Haven’t you all figured it out already?
Vista IS Lepoard, and Lepoard is VISTA.
First comes the processor change and then the OS colaboration.
THERE CAN ONLY BE ONE
*crackles of thunder and strange light ensues*
MDN Word: “young” As in I’m not young like I used to be and can’t handle a substancial OS change again.
in order for the hardware manufacturers to remain viable, they need to lose their dependancy on M$. They should all do what Apple did, start with an incredible stable foundation (UNIX) and build a world class OS on top of it.
Practically every file type has a standard that any company can emulate by following that standards guidelines, so compatibility is becoming less of a concern between Unix, Linux, Mac, M$, etc…
Then they can all market their own version of the entire widget and bring some real competition to the marketplace!
After reading all of the parody-based derivations of “Longhorn” (Longborn, Longbone…) in MDN, Microtwat decided they needed a more robust, parody-resistant name: Vista. Reading the comments here, it looks like they may have succeeded.
Less is More:
I hereby propose the nickname “Vistula” From the Mac OS X Tiger dictionary:
Vistula |ˈvis ch ələ| a river in Poland that rises in the Carpathian Mountains and flows north for 592 miles (940 km) through Cracow and Warsaw, to the Baltic Sea near Gdańsk. Polish name Wisła .
Unfortuneately, I beleive it is also known for it’s pollution.
My original and preferred parody:
Windows “Viger”
I think it says it all.
Alternately, we could say that advocates of MS Vista suffer from “VistaVision”. Again from the Tiger dictionary:
Vistavision |ˈvistəˌvi zh ən| noun trademark a form of wide-screen cinematography employing standard 35 mm film in such a way as to give a larger projected image using ordinary methods of projection.
In other words, something that attempts to appear much grander than it is.
Delays won’t hurt Vista! Why, that will make it more betterer! The longer the delay, the more perfect Vista will be and the more cool Apple-like features will be included!
Seriously though, a vaporware OS can be treated much better by the media than something tangible. Longhorn was compared to Jaguar, fer cryin’ out loud! When Panther came out, Longhorn was compared to it. Finally, we’ve moved onto to Tiger, and yet the media still seems to believe that Vista will be “close enough” to Tiger in quality.
As long as Microsoft never releases anything, the fantasy will always be that the new OS will be just as good as whatever Apple has going at the time. That’s why it’s better for Apple if Microsoft releases Vista first. When Leopard comes out just a little bit later, and utterly wipes the floor with Vista, and Microsoft can’t use the “well, uh, the next Windows will have that” excuse, then the message will finally be driven home: Windows will never hold a candle to the Mac — switch or be left behind.
“That’s why it’s better for Apple if Microsoft releases Vista first. When Leopard comes out just a little bit later, and utterly wipes the floor with Vista, and Microsoft can’t use the “well, uh, the next Windows will have that” excuse, then the message will finally be driven home: Windows will never hold a candle to the Mac — switch or be left behind.”
Why doesn’t this logic work today with Jaguar and Panther both released after XP? XP still has 96% market share at worst. The comparisons between Tiger and XP are much more favorable than the ones that will be between Tiger and Vista. Now is the time for Apple to seize share.
Vistula and Vistavision don’t have the same impact as any number of Longhorn-derived names. It doesn’t even “moo.” We need to get more alternatives for future reference; the more the better. I can only come up with Bitchsta or Bitchster ~ bowow ~ and that’s pretty lame. In the interests of stimulating interest in this weighty and urgent matter, let me suggest thinking along the lines of: Pissta [coined by One Word, July 23], Fist-ta….
Microsoft blows.
Troll:
Yeah, I thought of those things, but I was hoping someone couild come up with something less crude and more suitable for popular reference – something that’d just be funny and degrading and catch on.
But I still like ya work!
M$ lackey writes: “the company will try and make up lost time by eliminating one of the planned release candidate (RC) milestones”
Translation, for those of you without a Redmond Dictionary handy: the company will try and make up lost time by cutting corners because, when it comes to Windoze, quality doesn’t really matter anyhow.
I think it should be renamed Windoze Vodka. After all, you have to be hammered to want to use/buy it to begin with.
I doubt that Steve can wait ’til Vodka ships before shipping Leopard. Wouldn’t surprise me if Apple has MacOS X Lion ready before Vodka ships.