President Bush, candidate Kerry both use Apple PowerBooks

In Time Magazine’s July 19 issue, on page 31, John Kerry is seen using an Apple PowerBook (15″ TiBook, it looks like). The photo, taken by Diana Walker, is captioned “From his study in the family’s Pittsburgh, PA, home, Kerry phones Edwards to officially invite the North Carolina Senator to be his running mate.” This comes on the heels of the report, “Vice President Dick Cheney a confirmed Apple iPod user” and, of course we all know that, at least back in 1998 when the photo of Bush was snapped, President Bush uses a PowerBook, too. That just leaves V.P. candidate John Edwards’ choice of platform in question.

MacDailyNews Take: You’d think that with Apple CEO Steve Jobs advising John Kerry and with Al Gore on Apple’s Board of Directors, Steve could figure out a way to get Kerry a new 17″ PowerBook – at least for photo ops.

Update: Updated PowerBook model speculation as per Seahawk’s post below.

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Conservative Mac users miffed at Apple’s Jimmy Carter page – October 14, 2002
The Mac is Bush to Windows’ Clinton – October 25, 2002
Bush-Cheney ’04 Re-election website adds QuickTime multimedia choice – April 27, 2004

190 Comments

  1. Hmm… Who’s the pussy?

    The guy who evaded service in Vietnam by joining the “Champagne Unit” (for fellow “connected” rich kids) in the Texas Air National Guard — and even went AWOL from said vacation to snort coke and get arrested for drunk driving — or the guy who volunteered for duty in Vietnam, spent years in a boat on the Mekong Delta leading a squadron, and actually fought, got shot at, got war injuries, and three medals of honor?

    You chickenhawks don’t know the meaning of sacrifice.

  2. Kerry was an “A” student at Yale, while Bush got C’s — and only passed because his daddy was head of the CIA at the time. (He rarely went to class, and was too busy drinking and being a male cheerleader — it’s true!!! — to bother with his studies.)

  3. It is BS that Kerry uses an Apple computer or any computer.
    Fromthe Associated Press, July 15:

    Kerry said he writes in long hand, then cuts and pastes pieces of the speech to reorganize his thoughts. He uses old-fashioned scissors and glue, not the computer keystrokes modern writers are accustomed to.

    It’s not that he’s opposed to keyboards � he said he uses computers and preferred to compose letters on a typewriter when he was fighting in the Vietnam War. He said it’s just that he writes more effectively on paper.

    “I find that this” � he moves his fingers like he’s typing on an imaginary keyboard � “somehow becomes the concentration. … It interrupts the flow for me.”

    When he’s satisfied, Kerry turns over his work to staffers who type it into a computer.
    ———
    http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=694&u=/ap/20040715/ap_on_el_pr/kerry_s_speech_1&printer=1

  4. Jack A: Kerry and the environment? During the Clinton Administration Kerry voted against the Kyoto Treaty. Clinton was also against that treaty. Bush uses the same arguments as Clinton.
    When Clinton (and Kerry) does it – good.
    When Bush does it- Bad

  5. To ToJackA: No, with regards to the environment, when Clinton does it Bad, when Bush does it Bad. However, in addition to not doing Proactive things like join the Kyoto Treaty, Bush has been relaxing regulations and losing ground already won. That is worse.

    Photo Op
    The Civil rights movement and the Vietnam war was a time of turbulence and strife in the US.
    At least Kerry actually fought for his country himself rather than relying on Daddy’s connections to keep him out of it (and then it seems Bush did not actually forfill all his obligations – this is not for sure though, Bush is keeping his records sealed so we can’t find out for sure, I wonder why). Bush is just good at sending other people off to risk their lives and die for their country (or for his pet war as the case may be).

  6. P.S. I am not saying Kerry is perfect. I just think he is much more of a middle of the road type guy and will not go to the extremes and pull the gaffs that Bush has.

  7. During the Clinton Presidency – 1996- the military lost Bush�s military records. In the news last week. I believe they lost a couple of years of records – not just Bush�s, but lots and lots of military personnel records.

    Kerry did not fight for his country. He was going to Viet Nam to build a resume for future political use.
    He was in Viet Nam barely 4 months.
    Read the history of Kerry -he was trying to copy his family friend, President John Fitzgerald Kennedy(JFK). John F. Kerry (JFK).
    Kennedy was a hero during WWII commanding a PT boat. Kerry went in the navy, got himself assigned to a PT-type boat so he could be like Kennedy.
    Most soldiers/sailors spent 1 year minimum in VietNam. Kerry spent 4 months.
    He then got himself a cushy job in NY City as an admiral�s aide (compliments of his Kennedy family connections).
    While still in the military he chauffered around anti-war activists.
    Kerry is a phoney who blows smoke and does nothing.
    In his 20 years as Senator he has little to show. In the last year he has missed over 75% of the Senate votes.

    And you say: ” I just think he is much more of a middle of the road type guy “
    What??!!? Kerry is the most liberal, left-wing, Senator in the US Senate. (Edwards is 4th most liberal.)
    That is middle of the road?
    Kerry is where he is because of his Kennedy connections and the fact that he married two women who were millionaires and billionaires.

    What extremes and gaffs has Bush pulled?
    We are at war. Islamic extremists want to destroy our society and culture. They want to kill you and me and all our families. They want to impose Islamic religious law in our country.
    And you want a middle of the road guy to lead you?
    Not me. I want a President that will see the threat and take action to defenc our country from harm.
    How about you?

  8. I find it interesting that Kerry came back from VietNam (a 4 months of duty) and lead the anti-war movement and then
    he encouraged young men to dodge the draft and avoid military service in Viet Nam.
    If you take the argument that Bush went into the Air National Guard to avoid service in VietNam, then wasn’t he doing what Kerry was preaching and promoting?
    How can Kerry criticize that? Sounds a bit ironic to me.
    (Of course, Kerry seems to have amnesia about his anti-war activities…he just talks about his 4 months (about 26 missions) of duty in VietNam like it was 4 years.

    ——————-
    Real news article from today:

    MEDAL OF HONOR LETTER TO W.V. VETS [07/15 11:16 AM]

    Twenty-one Medal of Honor recipients have signed an open letter praising President Bush and criticizing Kerry, and sent it to veterans in West Virginia. The letter states:

    Dear fellow Veterans in West Virginia:

    We have listened to Senator Kerry falsely attack President Bush for months over funding for veterans, and it’s time to set the record straight. The truth is President Bush has led the way on improving veterans� benefits, supporting our troops and restoring honor and dignity to the White House.

    Since 2001, President Bush has increased veterans funding by over $20 billion, and funding for veterans’ health care has increased by 40 percent since he took office. Funding for veterans has gone up twice as fast under President Bush as it did under President Clinton, and those who accuse the President of cutting funding are simply not being honest with veterans.

    Meanwhile, John Kerry voted against a $1.3 billion increase in veterans health care, skipped votes on concurrent receipt and voted against funding for our troops in Afghanistan and Iraq. And while he talks a good game, Kerry’s record shows he is out of the mainstream. The American Flag symbolizes our ideals, our history and our values. President Bush shares this belief and supports a Constitutional Amendment banning desecration of the Flag. John Kerry believes this is “an attack on free speech.”

    We are disturbed that John Kerry would try to scare veterans with his false accusations, and we are disappointed in his lack of support for today’s troops. Please join us in setting the record straight and showing your support for President Bush � a leader who has proven his support for those who have served, backs our troops defending our nation and shares our values.

  9. Ok Jack A, I appreciate someone finally raising some policy issues with which they disagree with Bush rather than just spewing the standard MoveOn.org/Michael Moo hate-speech. IMHO, you are wrong on several issues and on others, you and I simply disagree on policy. Here is my analysis of your assertions:

    “Environment.” Just before Clinton left office he laid several land mines using environmental executive orders that he knew could not stand (and he did not propose for the entire 8 years while he was in office until the last minute). Bush rolled them back to the Clinton administration’ pre-11th hour levels. Had Gore won, Clinton would not have made these orders. You mention Kyoto. The Senate (who approves treaties) UNANIMOUSLY voted not to participate. It would have been a disaster for the world economy which would have then destroyed the environments of said economies (remember, wealth creation enables a cleaner environment).

    “Disproportionate tax breaks for the very rich” This is true. To be fair, the rich should have gotten larger tax breaks than they got (and thus the disproportionate-ness targeted the rich unfairly.) To not be disproportionate, the rich should have gotten the same percentage of tax break as everyone else. They did not-it was less. The wealthy in this country pay a disproportionate amount of the taxes and this hurts everyone. For example, I work in education so I am amongst the middle-class but I don’t mind the rich being able to make money because their money funds our university. The more they make, the more our university prospers. When the rich leave our state due to an unfair tax burden our university suffers. I would favor a flat tax to correct this problem.

    (cont)

  10. “Faulty intelligence.” Regarding WMDs, we now know that key intelligence on the Iraqi nuke program wasn’t faulty after all. It turns out that Iraq WAS trying to buy yellow-cake just as Bush and Blair said they were. The only use for this is for nuclear weapons. Also, there was a serious tie has been established between Iraq and Al Qaeda just as Bush said. Of course, Clinton, France, Germany, Kerry, Rockefeller, etc. etc. all said Iraq had WMDs and was sponsoring Islamic terrorism. Were they all lying? We had better intelligence regarding Iraq than Clinton ever had for bombing the Serbs or the Chinese embassy or the Aspirin factory. You may disagree with the war effort but trying to paint it as a mistake because of faulty intelligence is disingenuous at best and dangerous at worst. Saddam would have a nuke by now if we had not gone in. Personally, I think this would have been bad. Baaad.

    “the continuation of the Patriot Act “ This is ironic given your previous criticism of our intelligence services. The lack of a unified approach (which the PA addresses) is why the FBI would not tell the CIA the intelligence it had regarding the 9/11 hijackers. The PA is sound legislation, first proposed by the Democrats and has helped us tremendously with the war on terror.

    “ignoring the Geneva Convention” Who ignored the GC? Oh, you probably think that the GC applies to terrorists. It does not. Period.

    (cont)

  11. “The torture of prisoners carried out during Bush’s watch”. You call it torture, I do not. But even if it were, it was the Army that uncovered the abuse and is prosecuting the perps. Bush has steadfastly condemned the action of the few soldiers who did the deeds. I challenge you to define what Bush did that promoted some mythical “atmosphere” that lead to the abuse.

    “he has taken more vacation than any president in US history”. Jack A, you know no such thing! In fact this is an outright lie perpetrated by Michael Moore in the juvenile Fahrenheit 9/11. Moore bases his assertion on the Washington Post analysis of Bush’s time away from the White House. It turns out that of the 98 days Moore and the Post assert were vacation days, as many as 64 were weekend days. Much of the rest were working retreats. Just because he was away from the WH does not a vacation make. Let me ask you this Jack A, how many vacation days have you taken this year (include all weekends in the number please)? As an aside, Clinton took a huge amount of time away from his job. However, a lot of it was spent in the White House, if you know what I mean.

    All in all, you are either outright misinformed or are spinning like a whirling dervish. The closest you get to a valid issue is your criticism of the PA, something about which we should all be concerned of course. However, there have been no abuses to date of the PA and more importantly it is allowing for better intelligence gathering, the very thing that every Lib is saying we need (and I agree). Either you want the intelligence or you don’t, you can’t have it both ways.

    -B

  12. Here’s how Governor Bush supports our troops: He sends our good men and women in uniform into harm’s way to invade another nation under false pretenses. There were no WMD’s left in Iraq, there WAS NO CONNECTION to Al-Quaida or 9/11. There was and is oil, and lots of it. Bush has dumped literally billions of our taxpayer dollars into the military-industrial complex and advanced the geo-political stance of American and Saudi oil companies, while creating the largest budgetary deficit in U.S. history. Our childrens’ children will still be paying it off.

    How many Americans have been killed in Iraq, and are we any safer as a nation? No. In fact, because Bush managed to inflame the Middle East even more against us, we’re now at even greater risk than we were before 9/11. Bush is losing his war on terror.

    Military might will never stop terrorism. You kill an innocent Muslim, you radicalize his brother, his son. It’s a no win approach.

    Here’s how you support our troops: you never, ever send them into harm’s way for no good reason. You make damn sure if you engage another country militarily that all other options have been exhausted.

    It’s time for the A students to run the country again. The C student had his chance.

    And by the way, Fascist Dictator Benito Mussolini is quoted as saying, “Fascism should rightly be called Corporatism, as it is a merge of state and corporate power.” Sound familiar?

  13. rexray,

    What false pretenses? Enumerate them. Support them.

    WMDs? Sounds like you are admitting they WERE there (which everyone knows is the case) but are “no longer there”. Except for the fact that we are now finding bio-WMDs, this is possible. But if they are not there it is because we waited too long to go in and they were secreted out of the country. (Of course, we now know that Iraq was trying to buy, or actually did buy, yellow cake, used to make WMDs).

    We have bountiful evidence that Iraq was in bed with Al Qaeda. Bush never claimed Iraq had a connection to 9/11

    We ARE safer. Have we had an attack here since 9/11? Have not Libya and North Korea started towing the line since the war was won? Indeed they have. This has made the world significantly more stable.

    The military IS stopping terrorism. Killing terrorists will do that. We are not targeting “innocent Muslims”. We are killing evil, bloodthirsty Islamofascist thugs. This is a good thing.

    We did not send them into Iraq “for no good reason”. And we did exhaust all other options. In fact, we waited WAY too long to go in. We should have gone in at the same time as we went into Afghanistan.

    And what A students are you proposing should be running the country? The billionaire waffler? I don’t think so.

    Today’s Liberal/leftist ideology is a variant of fascism by all empirical analysis. I agree that there are elements of our government that are tending fascist but this is because of rampant big governmentalism, a central Liberal tenet.

    -B

  14. Beeblebrox,

    Basically everything you said in your last post is unsupportable crap. You’ve bought the Big Lie, and now you defend it with lots of smaller lies. Please, you are embarrassing yourself.

    As for “big governmentalism” (is that a Bushism? It’s not a real word), The federal deficit has been largest under those famous liberals, Ronald Reagan, George H. W. Bush and George W. Bush. The federal government staff was smaller under Clinton/Gore than it was under Reagan or Bush, Sr., and now with the huge and wasteful department of Fatherland, er, Homeland Security, it’s getting larger again under this Republican administration.

    It seems you’re listening to too much “Whoa What a Rush” Limbaugh.

  15. You’re not really very good at this Rex, are you? I provide specifics and you dismiss them with no specifics and stoop to inane insults instead. Nicely done.

    We HAVE evidence of Iraq WMDs, nuke programs, & ties to Al Qaeda. That is the support for my position. But you know you are beaten on this point so you simply belch the equivalent of “oh yeah?” That may be a premier debating tactic in your freshman social studies class but not in adult circles.

    Allow me to summarize so you can attempt to rebut: We have had NO terrorist attacks since 9/11, Iraqis have their country back, Libya fessed up to a nuke program, Iraq had a nuclear program, and North Korea is back at the table. These are easily observable facts and all can be credited to Bush.

    At the end of the day, your post utterly lacks substance (except for the specific claim about the deficit – and what lib would cut back on this spending – certainly not your “A student” who wants to accelerate spending.) Will you criticize Kerry’s plan to balloon the deficit?

    Beyond this, you evidently have not learned that the legislative branch spends the money, so blame them. The conservatives in the Senate and House have not gotten their desire to curb spending and as a result, spending has significantly increased. Bush should cut back on domestic pork with the veto pen. But by trying to get along with the big government libs in the Congress he is certainly contributing to the deficit. No argument there. Bush is a liberal (except socially) so this should not surprise anyone. But you are outright wrong regarding the size of the deficit. The deficit number is only relevant as a measure of the portion of the GDP. The record for this goes to FDR (or rather, the Congress at the time) which was 30%+.

    -B

  16. Dear Chickenhawk,

    -Bush’s fighter wing was active in Vietnam when he joined up. He could have ended up fighting there at any time.
    -He was credited as being one of the best fighter pilots in his wing. To fly any high performance military aircraft takes a very high level of skill, dedication, training, and intelligence. Only the best of the best become fighter pilots.
    -Bush served 11 months, Kerry only 4.
    -Bush flew F-102s, something that is very dangerous. Many pilots died stateside flying these planes.
    -Kerry got his final purple heart (the one that got him sent back stateside) through a self inflicted wound.
    -Cheney was too old to serve in Vietnam.

    Next.

    -B

  17. Beetlebrox, I don’t know where you are getting your information but a lot of it is just wrong or based totally on theory. I know you are trying your best but you should get your information from other than just hard right sources. They are the masters of spin.

  18. Kerry tried to avoid the draft but failed:
    From the Harvard Crimson Newspaper:
    ” “John Kerry: A Navy Dove Runs for Congress”, published on February 18, the paper reported: “When he approached his draft board for permission to study for a year in Paris, the draft board refused and Kerry decided to enlist in the Navy.”

    Read the entire article here:
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2004/03/07/wkerr07.xml&sSheet;=/news/2004/03/07/ixnewstop.html

    Kerry tried to avoid the draft, but couldn�t. He did not go willing into the military, he went in so he would not be drafted into the Army and made a front line grunt.

  19. Jack, you have not posted a link to any of your “facts”, which to me sound like blargh you read at moveon or mmoore�s website or the kerry campaign.

    Not to defend Beetlebrox, he seems to be able to do it himself, but statements he has made I have read to and find them all to be factual, not spin or theory.

    Have you noticed how the Kerry campaign avoids discussing his Senate record or his post-Viet Nam history. Educate yourself and you will be surprised that the Kerry being touted – “middle of the road conservative war hero” – is not the real Kerry.

    ———–
    One of my favorites about Kerry that shows some insight into his character is how he wanted to start a cookie store in Boston in 1979-1980.

    Here is an excerpt from the true story, with the link to the article below.

    �Some guy who called me up was John Kerry, in �79 or �80,� Liederman recalled. �He said he wanted to come down and talk to me about franchising. He came to the office and said he had an incredible space in Boston, which was Faneuil Hall. He said he needed some plans and some layouts and all sorts of things to get the approval of the landlord.�

    �So I gave him the layout, the package, and he went back and I didn�t hear from him for six or seven months.�

    Then one day Liederman got a call from someone who said they�d seen one of his stores in Faneuil Hall. Not having a store in Boston, Liederman decided to have a look for himself.

    �It was a direct, 100-percent knock off of David�s Cookies,� said Liederman, from the appliances to the shop�s design to the cookies themselves. �If you had walked into a David�s Cookie�s store in Manhattan at the same time he opened �John�s Cookies� in Boston, you couldn�t tell the difference.�
    In his 1989 autobiography �Running Through Walls,� where the charge first appeared, Liederman wrote that he challenged Kerry on the origin of his business. �I told him he had stolen my idea, and he replied: �You�re absolutely right. I am a politician; I shouldn�t be in the cookie business, so let me sell you my store,�� Liederman wrote.

    Liederman never bought the store, he said, because Kerry was operating it in violation of his lease. �He was supposed to be selling jams and jellies, not cookies,� he wrote.

    Read about it here:
    http://www.hillnews.com/news/012804/kerry.aspx

  20. Jack A:

    You said: “…just think he is much more of a middle of the road type guy”

    How do you figure that? How do you figure someone who has BILLIONS of dollars in liquid assets as some one who is a “middle of the road type guy”?

    Do you really REALLY think someone with that kind of money knows what middle class people want? History speaks for itself……no such elitist ever knows what middle America wants or likes.

    And second of all why do you think they wont release their financial records? Because they have an OBSCENE amount MORE than Bush does. He’s an American he needs to release the records and the Americans have been asking for it not to mention the liberal media. And he says NO??? Think again.

  21. Beeb, ok, let’s break it down.

    You say, “We HAVE evidence of Iraq WMDs, nuke programs, & ties to Al Qaeda.”

    Where do you get that? From the Bush/Cheney campaign website? From the White House website? Each one of Bush’s justifications for preemptively striking another nation has been summarily disproven by level-headed professionals both inside and outside the Bush administration. There is no new information on these points. You’re just wrong about that.

    You say, “We have had NO terrorist attacks since 9/11…” So what? This proves nothing, other than that the entire world is naturally more alert and aware of terrorist movements since 9/11. Bush attacking Iraq has nothing to do with whether or not there have been terrorist attacks, because again, Saddam was not involved with Al-Quaida. The Bush administration has, of course, attempted to keep good Americans afraid with their raising of the terrorist alert every so often, just so we don’t forget his endless war on terror.

    You said, “Iraqis have their country back, Libya fessed up to a nuke program, Iraq had a nuclear program, and North Korea is back at the table.”

    First of all, a little lesson about the people you call “Iraqis”. There’s no such thing as a unified group called “Iraqis”. There are, however, a number of disparate tribes that all occupy that geographical region. There are the Tikriti and the Sunni to name two, and there are dozens of offshoots and subgroups. Many of those people were treated brutally by Saddam when he, among other things, used the chemical weapons sold to him by the U.S. on them. People that we call loyalists, the Baathists, prefer Saddam over the U.S. created and propped up interim “government”. They aren’t the only ones. (cont.)

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