HP press release follows, verbatim:
HP today commented on the recent announcement by Autonomy Corporation plc (LSE: AU.L). HP confirms that it is in discussions with Autonomy regarding a possible offer for the company.
HP also reported that it plans to announce that its board of directors has authorized the exploration of strategic alternatives for its Personal Systems Group (PSG). HP will consider a broad range of options that may include, among others, a full or partial separation of PSG from HP through a spin-off or other transaction.
In addition, HP reported that it plans to announce that it will discontinue operations for webOS devices, specifically the TouchPad and webOS phones. HP will continue to explore options to optimize the value of webOS software going forward.
HP today announced preliminary results for the third fiscal quarter 2011, with revenue of $31.2 billion compared with $30.7 billion one year ago.
In the third quarter, preliminary GAAP diluted earnings per share (EPS) was $0.93 and non-GAAP diluted EPS was $1.10, compared with third quarter fiscal 2010 GAAP diluted EPS of $0.75 and non-GAAP diluted EPS of $1.08. Non-GAAP diluted EPS estimates exclude after-tax costs related primarily to the amortization of purchased intangible assets of approximately $0.17 per share and $0.33 per share in the third quarter of fiscal 2011 and fiscal 2010, respectively.
For the fourth fiscal quarter of 2011, HP estimates revenue of approximately $32.1 billion to $32.5 billion, GAAP diluted EPS in the range of $0.44 to $0.55, and non-GAAP diluted EPS in the range of $1.12 to $1.16. Non-GAAP diluted EPS guidance excludes after-tax costs of approximately $0.61 to $0.68 per share, related primarily to restructuring and shutdown costs associated with webOS devices, the amortization and impairment of purchased intangibles, restructuring charges and acquisition-related charges.
HP estimates full-year FY11 revenue will be approximately $127.2 billion to $127.6 billion, down from its previous estimate of $129 billion to $130 billion. FY11 GAAP diluted EPS is expected to be in the range of $3.59 to $3.70, down from its previous estimate of at least $4.27, and FY11 non-GAAP diluted EPS is expected to be in the range of $4.82 to $4.86, down from its previous estimate of at least $5.00. FY11 non-GAAP diluted EPS estimates exclude after-tax costs of approximately $1.16 to 1.23 per share, related primarily to restructuring and shutdown costs associated with webOS devices, the amortization and impairment of purchased intangibles, restructuring charges and acquisition-related charges.
HP will host a conference call with the financial community today at 2 p.m. PT / 5 p.m. ET to discuss these announcements well as HP’s third quarter 2011 financial results. The call is accessible via an audio webcast at www.hp.com/investor/2011q3webcast.
Source: HP
MacDailyNews Take: Splat! And, just like that, Ruby’s folly comes to an end. Buh-bye, webOS.
And, yup, we told you so, years ago:
“In our opinion, there isn’t room, nor is there a need for Palm in a market already crammed full of iPhone wannabes, to say nothing of the iPhone itself. There are more than enough pretend iPhones, thanks. Plus, developers have far too much on their plates already (iPhone, Android, BlackBerry, Symbian, etc.).” MacDailyNews Take, January 9, 2009
Bloodbath.
Related articles:
Unhappy Best Buy wants HP to take back non-selling TouchPads – August 17, 2011
As Apple iPads sell like hotcakes, mountains of unsold tablets pile up in channel – August 15, 2011
People don’t want fake iPads, they want real Apple iPads; HP slashes TouchPad dud by 20% – August 12, 2011
HP TouchPad hits Australia with a resounding ‘meh’ – July 27, 2011
HP bumps Rubinstein from webOS lead after TouchPad launch failure – July 11, 2011
Rubinstein addresses poor HP TouchPad reviews, compares webOS to Apple’s early Mac OS X – July 5, 2011
HP fiddles while Apple innovates – July 10, 2011
Rubinstein addresses poor HP TouchPad reviews, compares webOS to Apple’s early Mac OS X – July 5, 2011
HP TouchPad simply cannot compete with Apple’s iPad 2 – July 5, 2011
Pogue reviews HP TouchPad: ‘Doesn’t come close’ to Apple’s iPad – June 30, 2011
Mossberg: HP TouchPad ‘simply no match’ for Apple iPad 2 – June 30, 2011
That was an expensive flop.
…and remarkably short lived.
Just as GOOG is entering the h/w space, HP is exiting it…
Not an exact corrolary between the two situations — granted — but it has got to give some GOOG shareholders a shiver…
The timing on this, while probably coincidental, is indeed fascinating nonetheless.
Though, you’d think HP would have been smart enough to have a hardware partner for webOS lined up *before* breaking this news, rather than after. It’s like HP is repeating Nokia’s mistake of announcing end-of-life for their existing stuff, without having the future in place yet.
Google was a few days early in buying MoMo. If it had waited, it could have bought WEB OS nd its designs and canned Android to get around the patent issues (assuming Web OS is “clean”. It could then phase out Android. Forces all the Droid heads to buy new phones in a couple of years. No need to get into the hardware business. Maybe they should pay off MoMo – $2.5 billion) . They would regain 50 points in a heartbeat.
On the other hand, maybe Apple shoudl buy Web OS to keep it out of enemy hands.
One door opens, another door closes.
Kin still wins.
It is garage sale time. Got any Palm patents you no longer need? Apple (and others) will take them off your hands HP. There is a market for those but not for iPad killers.
Time to turn those lemons into lemon aid (if you can).
If memory serves, Steve Jobs made a friendly offer to Palm to buy them out about 10 years ago. Palm laughed at him, just like Mikey “SITDAGTMBTTS” Dell.
Once again, who is laughing now?
are PALM patents really worth anything when Apple show’s PRIOR ART… I mean, hardware – the NEWTON. Would apple not be just buying back it’s own IP?
There is a market for iPad killers. Just iPad fluffers. We haven’t seen anything that could even dent their armor let alone kill them. So they’re stuck sucking Apple’s you know what.
This one was DOA from the get go, notwithstanding HP’s chest thumping a few months ago.
Given the recent plethora of tablet/phone news at MDN, seems this site ought to be renamed IOSDailyNews…just sayin’
Saying dead on arrival from the get go Is repetitive. Just either say DOA or dead from the get go
Picky…picky…picky. Since when did “repetitive” go out of vogue on this site???
i just don’t like it when people talk improperly and whenever they do it annoys me whenever they do.
http://www.iosdailynews.com/
It’s precisely the feeling that a company like HP might abandon a product that also keeps people away from trying it (imagine how the few people who bought TouchPads feel now?). People KNOW Apple will stay with something and provide a complete solution. Even Microsoft is known to run away from something and stability is a notable Apple mainstay. Go with something you know is going to stick around and right now there aren’t any other companies than Apple you can trust like this. They deserve the worship they get from the faithful and others for this.
Apple walks away from products more than anyone. Apple server anyone? Rosetta now gone? Killed Newton?
I’m guessing the issue is HP made a major push to developers to get applications for webos, and they must have been unceremoniously turned down. I’m guessing between iOS, Android and Windows 7 / 8, there’s no development budget left to do meaningful work. In this case it really is the chicken or the egg.
Android got its start and toe hold because of Verizon and other areas where Apple had exclusively, as the number of units increased, the developers started working. Remember the App difference early on, iOS was creaming Android, but Android caught up, maybe not in number, but certainly in breadth of applications due to the available number of handsets out there to sell to. Webos had no such retail supporter, and thus can’t take flight.
To be fare, Rosetta was known to be temporary from day one. It was just a transition thing.
On the other hand, you left out .mac/MobilMe
Apple should buy WebOS from HP for $200,000 (if it even values this much) and nit pick it and take only the best features.
Be interesting to see if HP licenses webOS or sells it to the highest bidder – definitely more of a market to get their money’s worth, in the wake of the Google-Motorola Mobility tie-up. (And they might be thinking of selling off Palm’s patent portfolio to the highest bidder, too.)
HP said they will consider selling off PC division, but there is no intent to sell WebOS. HP will keep the IP (not very significant) and software engineers to themselves (more significant).
But those software engineers can always quit.
Which best features?
To be able to watch a video on the left side of a screen with your one eye, while simultaneously edit an electronic mail on the right side of a creen with your another eye?
Well, maybe I misses actually useful features?
Their best feature? That would be Lea Michele.
That was quick.
Yes, HP certainly isn’t Microsoft, who drags out loser products until the bitter end (when no one will notice or care that they are canceled). Aren’t they still selling Zune HD?
(Actually, not always true; Microsoft canceled Kin in record time.)
Selling only 800 Kins, total worldwide, cancelled the Kin for Microsoft.
BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! And so richly deserved.
Also, Kin was released just a few months before Windows Phone 7. Microsoft had intentionally (or inadvertently through lack of internal planning and coordination) set things up so that one part of Microsoft was competing with another part.
They tried to vaguely differentiate Kin as a phone for “younger” people, but ultimately, they just needed an excuse to get it out of the way (and out of the public and tech media attention) in time for the Windows Phone 7 release. Microsoft couldn’t kill Kin fast enough. (Didn’t really matter though, because public and tech media attention was focused squarely on iPad by that time.)
Unlike Microsoft and HP, all of Apple seems to be very well coordinated, marching in the same direction, on the same sheet of music, etc…
Blood On The Tracks.
…blood in the mine
Brothers and sisters what a terrible time…
” Blood on the rocks, ain’t no big surprise, ask me no questions I’ll tell you no lies”.
A classic
I didn’t see that coming…
Neither will Google.
Idiot Wind
Haw freaking Haw freaking Haw freaking Haw.
Is everyone clear on why Apple never talks about future product development? Yes? Good.
Expect more coming from other companies !!!
Throwing in the towel so early! It’s as if they new from Day 1 they would never make any money from their Palm webOS acquisition.
That explains why Futureshop sold the Touchpad to its employes earlier this week for $150. A fellow employe where I work got his hands on one today and I was comparing it to my iPad first gen, you would think HP used a photo copier to design the physical device (Except for materials).
I’d buy one for $100 just for the hell of it.
Damn. I just fell out of my chair. I was not expecting that.
I guess I need to pick up one of those HP tablets. It may be worth something in 20 years.
No luck with that: there are too many unsold ones for this to be rarity even in twenty years from now.
It will only work if HP will decide to destroy the unsold inventory.
Anybody want a Newton? I have several?
Yes i very much would.
Costco has them by the pallet.
Who would have expected them to give it up so quickly? Microsoft, for example, has no problem sinking billion after billion, year after year, into X-box, until, decade later, it begins to show profit. You’d think HP, being a fairly large company, could afford to lose some money on that Web OS for a few years until it begins to show promise. Especially since many objective observers claim that the OS was the best out there among iPhone’s competitors.
Well, good luck with your next effort, HP. I’m not sure what Bill and David (Hewlett and Packard, respectively) would have said if they had lived long enough to witness all this, but I don’t think they would have been all that pleased.
What….the….f*ck??!! I’ve had prem. ejacs (yes! yes! TMI) take a longer time 😮
BLOODBATH.
well I didn’t expect this.. Although I do love Apple I think we have to respect webos and the palm phones as an original and neat idea! I mean in someways that OS was more Apple than Apple.. Would rather have them competing with HP(webos) than the copycat android and the grey haired blackberry phones. It’s sad to see this fresh OS die :/ shame it didn’t catch on.
You do know that Palm was started by former Apple employees who worked on Newton, right?
Yes I do know 🙂 that’s why I feel it’s such a waste of what is generally very good tech!
I agree. My girlfriend has a Palm Pixi as her business phone, and WebOS is actually really nice. I’ve said it before, but WebOS does several things better than iOS up to this point.
WebOS on the TouchPad however, was a horrible experience. I had a chance to play with one briefly, and couldn’t believe how bad it was, but I think that was mostly due to crappy hardware (and possibly a lack of WebOS optimization).
WebOS, RIP.
HP CEO Apotheker used to be at SAP; now he wants HP to be a software company like SAP. Kind of like Nokia CEO Elop; he came from Microsoft and is now joining Nokia with Microsoft.
Bill Hewlett and Dave Packard must be hanging their heads in dismay.
Well, they’re both dead, so probably not.
Farewell (ONCE AGAIN!) Jon Rubinstein! And don’t let the door hit you in the ass THIS time!
So, who gets HP’s business? Google with Android or Microsoft with Windows 8? HP is still a big company and having them push Windows 8 tablets could keep Microsoft relevant just a little bit longer, but it’s still a race for a distant second in the tablet market.
Actually, HP is apparently exiting the hardware business altogether.
My head is spinning.
WOW. I wonder if webOS has any worthwhile patent base?
Wow… reading these obituaries sure makes me feel happy! no pun intended though 😛
The difference between Apple and HP in the consumer facing world couldn’t be more stark. Apple embraces you and makes you feel important. They recruit knowledgeable staff who are there to help if you ask. HP’s attitude seems to be, “Hey, you bought this nasty piece of shit, sucker, now go solve problems on your own.” Totally diametrically opposite.
When I experienced problems with my HP gear, I was made to feel small when I called for help or went to one of their service centers. It was ridiculous the way they made you wait, as if by owning an HP product, HP was conferring on you a feeling of subordination, as if you owed them a favor by choosing to buy their stuff. That, unfortunately, couldn’t be further from the truth. HP made you feel obligated to them for buying their product. Apple made you feel that you were a part of their universe and drew you in with their approachability.
I hated every minute I owned an HP product. There didn’t seem to be any thought put in to treat the customer as if the product was made for him. Rather I felt that HP suckered me into buying their shit and having suckered me no longer wanted to have anything more to do with me. In short, HP lost its engineering prowess and became a faceless corporation.
I dumped HP turd printers, now have Brother. World of difference.
I am shocked by this development! Seems like they are throwing the baby out with the bath water. Don’t they know this is the future? WebOS was their ticket if they played their cards right.
What cards?
Palm was a short deck from the get go.
Oh my, that was quick. I remember writing on several blogs that HPalm might work, IF HP was patient enough to build out the entire ecosystem for at least 3 – 5 years.
But apparently they weren’t.
Think about how long it took Apple to get from purchasing NEXT to iOS 1.0. Ten years. And in the meantime they invented iMacs, iTunes, iPods and the iTunes music/media store.
But… but… they were going to be ‘number one plus’ !
I think they just did a “number one plus” on everyone who bought a webOS device.
Actually, I reckon they did a “number two” over their customers ! (Is that the same in the US as in UK ?)
yes, that would be a number 1++
Or Number One + One. Steve Jobs rarely boasts of anything whereas these other corporate blowhards & CEO types are routinely shot down for their bravado, hubris and complete underestimation of the competition. And clueless/doomed as to the reasons why a company like Appe wins and is not easily duplicated. Deeds, not words, build respect and loyalty.
No sugar water CEO’s around this time to stop Apple’s potential for full throttle innovation and industry leading technology.
Oh yeah!?
Well in binary, 1+ is zero.
MISSION ACCOMPLISHED.
I wrote before that so many tech pundits (on other sites) saying that WebOS would be great for HP didn’t factor in company politics or human nature.
No way the Lords of HP who have been around for years will let Rubinstein the ‘guy from Apple’ walk in, succeed and possibly climb over them in company hierarchy. Only a person like Jobs can cut through the crap (pushing iOS to become bigger than Mac, iPod etc). Apoetheker is new, unsure of himself, inherited Palm from Hurd (whom he probably would like to discredit) and has no hardware experience.
same thing is happening with Msft with the Lords of Desktop Windows and Office (who make most of the money for Msft) . sidelining WinCE, WinMo, Zune, WP7 to put DESKTOP Win 8 on tablets stupid as it is. (they will never let the Win Mobile guys climb over them).
Google will be saying the same thing about Moto Mob in 2 years time
This is why Apple will never buy a large company like Adobe. It’s far to expensive to risk buying another company, only to open the package and find it’s rotten at the core. No matter how much due diligence you do, until you own the business you NEVER know what is really going on.
Think HP’s Palm mistake was expensive? Just wait until Google flushes Motorola Mobility down the drain in a year or two.
CEO for HP says in conference call confining the end of the Touchpad: “There’s a clear secular movement in the consumer PC space.” Does anyone know WTF that means?
Means the rubes ain’t got that reeligion no m’o.
The market has been commoditized. There’s no loyalty to brand anymore. Of course, he’s referring to the Windows PC market.
So he’s equating Apple with religion?
NO WINTEL = RELIGION. Anything else is secular, i.e. outside the church.
Kudos to the new HP CEO for having the guts to cut their losses on hopeless endeavors. webOS devices were dead in the water with no future, while HP personal computers make no profit but the division eats up a lot of management’s time. Now, HP management still have to figure out where they can actually make money (beyond printers and enterprise servers), but this is a good start!
Only surprised by how quickly HP decided to throw in the towel. I think most of us knew that it was just a matter of time. It was all too little too late. In a way, HP may be making the wise decision to cut their losses early instead of throwing billions of more into a project that’s doomed to fail. Why try to swim up against the rapids that is the iOS and Android?
Seems HP wants to just focus on the enterprise like IBM and get the hell out of the consumer market where they have no hope of mounting a serious challenge to the likes of Apple, Samsung, Sony, etc. HP has become a lumbering giant that just can’t move nimbly in any direction. HP needs to shed a lot of businesses and focus on markets where they can move quickly and decisively.
This really is a creepy announcement, considering the hype HP received this past week from TechTard stock analysts, HP’s corresponding jump in stock price and their topping Gartner’s latest computer sales list. Oops.
What will Ballmer get to hold at next year’s Consumer Electronics show?
His left nut?
ROFLMAO!!!
Cmon you WebPOS fanboys. Cmon out and say your peace. lol
Oh well. Hey! When does the new iPhone come out? (he he)
This is HP prepping for an Apple buyout. They are taking all there competive hardware & software off the market. They are spinning of all the hardwate parts Apple want need like portables and tablets. Then Apple well come in and buy out all there real estate and office space and hire many already local qualified employees back to run Apples corporate business. They wil then incorporate palm patents & web os into future Apple products.
As I attempted to post 6 times today at MDN, (thanks for the censorship or whatever):
After the lawsuits are over, in 2012 Apple is going to be HANDED Samsung on a platter.
Sorry HP, but Apple only wants your real estate. There’s nothing they can use from your lousy business units.
Oh, and that settles it: My next inkjet printer will be a Canon. 😛
REAL ESTATE
Stories like this underscore the pathetic lack of good leadership (and plain old common sense) in many of today’s biggest high-tech firms. They slavishly copy the iPhone and iPad because they think they must, without any realistic sense of their inability to compete with Apple’s game-changing innovations. It’s sad, kinda like Steve “Bobo” Balmer suiting up for a 49er’s game and expecting to replace Joe Montana at quarterback.
Where are the actual LEADERS these days? They aren’t in government! There are damned few in business. What we’ve got instead are a lot of attention whores with barely a working neuron in their head.
Did modern BizNizz schools churn out these meat heads? Or did all the intelligent people already leave the planet? It’s time I bought my ticket out of here, frickin’ loony bin. 😕
“Bloodbath.” 😈
GROSS!
This is the sickest mess yet!
I’m not cleaning it up.
It’s actually rather sad as well. WebOS gets the boot once again, despite the fact that it has a lot more potential and originality than that rip-off POS called ‘Android’. A very gruesome day indeed.
HP: Remember that blood dissolves in COLD WATER. It’s that stuff that was splashed in your face when you realized your phony phones and pads were FAILures. 😆
So buy a TV at Best Buy for $1500 or more and get a free HP TouchPad…
Still want to have an orphan?
Can you imagine how Apple will behave, once all the competition is killed off? Even for fanbois, that’s a sobering thought.
It’s only sobering for a melted choclate dufus.
We will be fine! There will always be Apple wannabees around.
Innovation and product advancement and improvement, are part of Apple’s DNA.
But you should hop over and get a touchpad. It will be perfect for you!
I totally agree @MM. I’ve seen it happen before with other companies. It’s disastrous. So where is the competition already?! Apple REQUIRE competition!
I think Apple should buy over their PC business. They’re the biggest PC manufacturers in the world if I’m not mistaken, and if Apple buys that part of their business, it would be in control of one of the the Mac’s historical competitors. They could shut it down, or continue to rake in the cash from the world’s (cheapskate) PC addicts. And Gates and Balmer would also probably then switch over to the Mac in a hurry to keep THEIR nest egg going (Microsoft).
you’re an idiot.
+1
Oops, we goofed, back to the drawing board …..
Have to give those guys credit, they cut their losses ……
Gotta love the revenue growth, zero to none as the year over year after adjusted for inflation, what do you have ….. Zero to none!
Un-fscking-believable.
More than tablets.
They also cannot compete with modern computers.
HP PC bites the dust.
Dell next. Then Microsoft.
Apple used to be the most expensive (Wives Tail).
Now they are the least expensive. The computer builders simply cannot build clones of Apple at a cheaper cost.
It is all Technology
Apple first bought LCD technology eight years ago.
Since then they have invested in:
1) Super strength aluminum metals.
2) One piece aluminum milling machines.
3) Form fitting layered batteries.
4) Low power multi-thread processor chips.
5) Hardware and software optimized architectures.
Whether iPads or computers the costs for the same features cannot be beat even with zero margins by the rush to the bottom competitors.
Plug and play parts in plastic ugly containers simply will not sell.
Microsoft will be next.
Microsoft is stopping support for Windows XP so that corporations (50 percent of who still use the old computers) will be forced to buy new computers.
Sorry, at least half of them will buy the new better and lower cost Apple computers.
All the creative companies already do.
Just Saying
where does it say they are getting out of hardware?
They have a strong enterprise product offering and make great servers.
Anybody got a good Compaqtor?
Sorry, but I think this news sucks. WebOS is actually a more worthy competitor for iOS than Android.
Can we stop saying “More Blood” when referring to companies that came out with a product after Apple did. It is not Apple’s fault if someone else did not think of it first and build it first. The only blood shed should the the CEO’s of other companies for not advancing technology on their own and making great products. Why are they not coming out with the next wow factor? Oh… they can’t, but we the blame is place on Apple??? Something is wrong with whomever writes these articles and they should apologize to Apple and all readers for bashing and not being open minded. looks like we need a new news writer… This should shed some blood too!
Uhh, no…
You’re new here, aren’t you? Have problems grasping satire? Any idea what SIDAGTMBTTS means? OK, well, keep trying.
So you DO know how to type in more than “+1”. Good on you. At this rate you should be ready for Grade 1 soon.
Idiot.
Anyone watching the TouchPad displays at Staples saw this coming.
I had reason to visit multiple times over the last week or so.
The TouchPad was prominent right in front of the cash registers and I NEVER saw a single person (other than myself) ever stop in front of the display, let alone try to use the TouchPad.
That told me everything I needed to know.
Wow, Folio MKII. Who’s going to buy a Touch Pad now as they’re end of life.
What surprises me is that HP givesvthe impression that it will shut down Web OS completely. It isn’t clear if they would try to sell it or just mothball it.
Given the appearance of Googlrola, and the presumed interest of the other Android manufacturers in finding a different web OS, I would think that HP could license web OS to them.
In the alternative Samsung, Microsoft and Rim would seem to be likely potential buyers.
Mr. Dell must be shit-ing in this pant when he heard the HP news. Don’t worry Mickey Boy, Dell will be next!! 🙂
I am thinking that those HP’s PC division employees must be getting their resume in order NOW and prepare to send them to Apple, Google, Facebook…etc!! 🙂
Please. Won’t someone think of the helium.
From their web page, about Web OS.
It’s like having super powers.
Why is webOS the smartest OS ever created? First off, where old systems can only handle one thing at a time, webOS can do all kinds of stuff at once.1 You can email while you’re checking out websites.2 You can text a friend while scrolling through your music.3,4 You can pause your game to answer a call, send a text, then go back to your game. All without closing one thing to open another. And it’s so intuitive you just type and it does the rest.
Dell should buy their new hardware devision. Don’t laugh. Dell could double their market share and profit. They could make it up on volume big time.
Apple should grab WebOS and associated patents ASAP. If only to keep it away from the goog.
If Google gets the WebOS package, all their patent problems are over.