“HP (HPQ) has struggled in months; it was downgraded by 11 firms in May and failed to meet Wall Street expectations in Q1,” Top Economic Articles reports via Seeking Alpha. “HP would have really needed a positive reception for its new tablet, the TouchPad, to turn things around. But, in a recent review by Engadget.com, the tablet ‘fails to live up to one’s expectations’ for a number of reasons.”
Why HP TouchPad fails:
1. It’s Bulky
2. It lacks apps
3. The performance is disappointing
4. The webOS software is nothing special
“The HP TouchPad simply cannot compete with Apple’s iPad 2. The rule of thumb is don’t compete with an established product like the iPad, unless your device is significantly better,” Top Economic Articles reports. “The HP TouchPad is in no respect a better device.”
Read more in the full article here.
MacDailyNews Take: LoserPad.
Again, people don’t want half-assed prototypes, they want iPads.
“In the tablet world we’re going to become better than number one. We call it number one plus.” – Eric Cador, HP Senior Vice President, Personal Systems Group – Europe, Middle East and Africa, May 23, 2011
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Mossberg: HP TouchPad ‘simply no match’ for Apple iPad 2 – June 30, 2011
oh how the tables have turned
uh…would these tables be of the “big-ass” variety? If so, I should not like to purchase one of them.
“oh how the tablets have turned”
There I have fixed it for you, MAChiavelli.
Duh…
Name one tablet that can compete…
Number 1 plus!
Samsung will simply have to upgrade, to
“Super Number One Double Plus!”.
Of course, Touchpad can compete. It needs to lower its price to 299 or lower.
but, but, but… HP claims they aren’t trying to compete with the iPad. Heh…
Correct.
The number one complaint I’ve heard about the tablets is how expensive they are. I work somewhere that sells the iPad and as many other tablets as we can get (right now that’s the RIM Playbook, Viewsonic VPAD, and Motorola Xoom). Without exception, when someone asks to see the non-Apple tablets the first thing they do is look at the price tags, because they are hoping it’s cheaper.
People are used to Apple being a premium product and other manufacturers undercutting them, and this is the first market where that hasn’t really happened (yet).
Actually, Apple has been price competitive in all their markets since at least the point where Jobs came back. They just didn’t compete in the very low end market. So, because disingenuous people could claim a laptop with a 3 year old processor was comparable to the macbook, they were able to perpetuate the myth that Apple was overpriced. This myth goes back to the days of the Apple II.
Number One Plus, or 1+, is equal to 2 in C-speak.
Subtle attempt to be the most prosperous tablet company AFTER Apple.
1++ would be 2 in C-speak.
1+ is a syntax error; which is probably just as appropriate.
Why do bad things always happen to bad companies?
WOAH! I did not see that coming
Number 1 plus = number 2 or worse
Number 1 plus -1 is zero.
Probably just as appropriate.
Interesting…the article says HP only has 300 apps but this website says over thousands. Probably is related to ‘optimized’ apps I guess.
http://h41112.www4.hp.com/promo/webos/us/en/tablet/touchpad.html
Can you say, “Beleagered HP?”
Hee hee!
Yeah but No but Yeah but No but… What-eva! … Jon Rubinstein says different!
Ex-Palm CEO and current webOS lead at HP, Jon Rubinstein, has fired out an internal email of support to the TouchPad and webOS 3.0 teams at the company, urging them to keep faith in the product and platform despite mediocre day-one reviews. In the letter, leaked to PreCentral, Rubinstein cites early reviews of Mac OS X in which critics labeled it “sluggish” and derided its lack of apps, going on to say that “similarities to our situation are obvious.”
http://www.slashgear.com/hps-rubinstein-addresses-touchpad-reviews-compares-webos-to-early-os-x-feedback-02162862/
Whoa … crazy long link.
The situation is that similar, since Mac OS X was and “.0” version then and it was indeed at times sluggy, but WebOS is out long time ago, including touch-based variant.
If Apple would release iPad that would feel sluggish, then the situation would be similar to TouchPad with WebOS now. But no, iPad got polished iOS version from the start.
Correction: this situation is *not* that similar.
I read the Slashgear quote quote and Apple was just releasing its first versions of OSX, not a device with OSX tied to it. There was MacOS9 as an alternative OA. as a matter of fact. OSX was the alternative until it became mainstream. Does HP have an alternative OS for users to use while HP figures it out? Apple gave away OSX for a while. Is HP going to give away its Slate?
“In the tablet world we’re going to become better than number one. We call it number one plus.”
He didn’t say plus what. It seems as though it’s something like this:
#1 + (-2) = -1
@skylark
No apps!
The only thing with less apps is an Android Honeycomb tablet. Why? Slashdot has a great summary yesterday in almost five hundred posts of anguished Android developers.
There is another problem. Since there are zip tablets sold by other vendors and an independent blogger who spends time tapping out a software review for the latest and greatest tablet app for anything non Apple get ZERO page clicks as no one is interested in something they don’t have and don’t expect to purchase in the near future.
The iPad is a developer’s dream to develop for with great tools. The tools for these other devices including RIM ‘suck’. Android’s tool is particularly sluggish to the point of being similar to watching paint dry.
Do you think HP’s tablet tools are any better?
Last night a super Geek who bought two high dollar Androids around XMAS sheepishly admitted passing he was going to get an iPad and that in hindsight he would have been better off if he had simply bought the latest iPhones.
Why? he needed at least one to control a real time reporting app that is only on the iPhone and iPad and doesn’t stand much of a chance of being ported to Android or HP. I even double checked with the vendor and he is right, no plans for either.
Those are the reasons HP is doomed unless they dump a boat load of money. Both Google and HP face a crushing future of expensive litigation that will block their future forays into the tablet market.
Did you know you can add high end HD video to an iPad one with a bluetooth Contour 1500 Contour Plus Camera for about $500? You can of course add low end bluetooth video for $130, but that isn’t much fun.
Geeks don’t buy android. Seriously, anyone buying android is not a nerd, not an engineer, not a geek. The android fanatics are wannabe types.
People who are technology enthusiasts who actually understand how things work, recognize the superiority of Apple’s products.
Apple appeals to both the computer illiterate and the computer super-literate. The wannabes, and the illiterate who get sold by an illiterate salesman, are the ones who buy android.
You are correct in every way. Geeks, AKA power users, have always loved the Mac and all of Apple’s products, simply because they love really well done interfaces. Apple is and always has been the UI/UX king. I like to refer it as the new KISS (keep it simple stupid). I like calling it IT IS (its the interface stupid). This is why, no matter how many bells and whistles, Android, WebOS and others cannot mach iOS.
If iPad wants competition just wait until Windows 8 for Slates and Tablets hit’s the fan.
That is, wait until Windows 8 for Slates and Tablets is released in all it’s splendor. Photoshop and Flash both running simultaneously. No toypads for Windows 8!
Batteries not included.
The HP noise gets even better:
http://www.intomobile.com/2011/07/04/jon-rubinstein-tells-palm-employees-ignore-touchpad-reviews-compares-webos-mac-os-x/
Because ignoring problems is the best way to solve them.
Jon Rubinstein = win.
This is a bogus review. Thickness difference is 4.9mm. Really get serious that means nothing.
2 It lacks apps – well no kidding. Apple has been doing this longer and if you ask me Apple has the developers to thank and not themselves. That could change as other’s pay the developers more for their apps. Many of the apps are useless and only meant for entertainment. Sorry I like functionality such as controlling my receiver and sonoes through my phone for example.
3 Performance is disappointing …try looking up Scion and see what happens on your ipad. It won’t load..There are loads of sides that won’t work on ipad and users find they have to go to a computer. Is it the ipad fault or hp tablets fault or is it he website developers . You be the judge
The software is nothing special. Well neither is the ISO. What is special are the apps.It’s just a platform for the apps.
People need to stop the false brain drain on comparing devices to apple devices. Apple will never have it right because they are controlling. Other manufactures will always appear to never have it right because people compare there devices to apples. Bottom line is that we need all of these devices because each function differently. It’s like my 4×4 will never compete with the sports cars in summer and vise versa in winter. We need them both.
So stop comparing people and go buy all the devices that you need to get by on.
They can try the “BOGOFPOS” technique that RIM uses. Then they can brag about all those units sold.
Seriously, as funny as it has been to watch Motorola, Samsung, RIM, and now HP introduce their tablets to great fanfare only to watch them fall on their face (arguable exception might be the latest Samsung tablet), I would argue that WebOS really is special. If only because it’s not yet another “Android” knock-off tablet — HP is coming up with something they control and can create a decent ecosystem around that won’t immediately be available on all the competition. Of course it doesn’t compete with IOS right out of the starting gate. In the end, though, I suspect that HP will be a bit more successful with their strategy than any other individual Android tablet maker. RIM could have had that crown, but they blew it.
Given the number of tablets Apple is selling, even getting 5% of the tablet market can’t be all *that* bad. HP might actually do this.