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“The Stuxnet computer worm spreads through previously unknown holes in Microsoft’s Windows operating system and then looks for a type of software made by Siemens and used to control industrial components, including valves and brakes,” Menn and Watkins report. “Stuxnet can hide itself, wait for certain conditions and give new orders to the components that reverse what they would normally do, the experts said. The commands are so specific that they appear aimed at an industrial sector, but officials do not know which one or what the affected equipment would do.”
Menn and Watkins report, “At a closed-door conference this week in Maryland, Ralph Langner, a German industrial controls safety expert, said Stuxnet might be targeting not a sector but perhaps only one plant, and he speculated that it could be a controversial nuclear facility in Iran. According to Symantec, which has been investigating the virus and plans to publish details of the rogue commands on Wednesday, Iran has had far more infections than any other country.”
“Experts say Stuxnet’s knowledge of Microsoft’s Windows operating system, the Siemens program and the associated hardware of the target industry make it the work of a well-financed, highly organised team,” Menn and Watkins report. “They suggest that it is most likely associated with a national government and that terrorism, ideological motivation or even extortion cannot be ruled out.”
Full article here.
John Markoff reports for The New York Times that Stuxnet “is continuing to spread through computer systems around the world through the Internet. It is also raising fear of dangerous proliferation. Stuxnet has laid bare significant vulnerabilities in industrial control systems. The program is being examined for clues not only by the world’s computer security companies, but also by intelligence agencies and countless hackers.”
Markoff reports, “‘Proliferation is a real problem, and no country is prepared to deal with it,’ said Melissa Hathaway, a former United States national cybersecurity coordinator. The widespread availability of the attack techniques revealed by the software has set off alarms among industrial control specialists, she said: ‘All of these guys are scared to death. We have about 90 days to fix this before some hacker begins using it.'”
Full article here.
Nicolas Falliere reports for Symantec, “Stuxnet infects Windows systems in its search for industrial control systems, often generically (but incorrectly) known as SCADA systems. Industrial control systems consist of Programmable Logic Controllers (PLCs), which can be thought of as mini-computers that can be programmed from a Windows system. These PLCs contain special code that controls the automation of industrial processes—for instance, to control machinery in a plant or a factory. Programmers use software (e.g., on a Windows PC) to create code and then upload their code to the PLCs.”
“Previously, we reported that Stuxnet can steal code and design projects and also hide itself using a classic Windows rootkit, but unfortunately it can also do much more. Stuxnet has the ability to take advantage of the programming software to also upload its own code to the PLC in an industrial control system that is typically monitored by SCADA systems,” Falliere reports. “In addition, Stuxnet then hides these code blocks, so when a programmer using an infected machine tries to view all of the code blocks on a PLC, they will not see the code injected by Stuxnet. Thus, Stuxnet isn’t just a rootkit that hides itself on Windows, but is the first publicly known rootkit that is able to hide injected code located on a PLC.”
“In particular, Stuxnet hooks the programming software, which means that when someone uses the software to view code blocks on the PLC, the injected blocks are nowhere to be found,” Falliere reports. “This is done by hooking enumeration, read, and write functions so that you can’t accidentally overwrite the hidden blocks as well.”
“Stuxnet contains 70 encrypted code blocks that appear to replace some ‘foundation routines’ that take care of simple yet very common tasks, such as comparing file times and others that are custom code and data blocks. Before some of these blocks are uploaded to the PLC, they are customized depending on the PLC,” Falliere reports. “By writing code to the PLC, Stuxnet can potentially control or alter how the system operates.”
Read more in the full article here.
MacDailyNews Take: The common denominator, as always, is Microsoft’s Windows.
[Thanks to MacDailyNews Reader “Patty D.” for the heads up.]
its probably some pissed off hacker eating hot pockets in his moms basement…
its probably some pissed off hacker eating hot pockets in his moms basement…
When will they ever learn..?
When will they ever learn..?
Reason no. 1,878,237 why windows sucks: nuclear accidents that cause WWW III.
Reason no. 1,878,237 why windows sucks: nuclear accidents that cause WWW III.
Sounds like this thing was put out by the CIA. Wait, that may be the entire plan by the CIA: give all our enemies Windows and then infect them with viruses while the US switches to Macs.
Sounds like this thing was put out by the CIA. Wait, that may be the entire plan by the CIA: give all our enemies Windows and then infect them with viruses while the US switches to Macs.
Ballmer commissioned this to stop the flow of crap out of Redmond. It escaped into the wild, and has now re-opened the pipeline of sewage from Microsoft (see Win phone7).
Ballmer commissioned this to stop the flow of crap out of Redmond. It escaped into the wild, and has now re-opened the pipeline of sewage from Microsoft (see Win phone7).
Compare this incident with the faux one about “antenna gate.”
Holy frikkin’ cow!
Compare this incident with the faux one about “antenna gate.”
Holy frikkin’ cow!
“Virus Bites Windows” — This is news?
“Virus Bites Windows” — This is news?
Lets see how many news services report this wrong or omit that Macs are unaffected.
Lets see how many news services report this wrong or omit that Macs are unaffected.
This is one of the many reasons why I own a Mac.
This is one of the many reasons why I own a Mac.
This real crap virus news is how m$oft gets their news / image out to the public!!! 🙁
Like a bad commercial!
iFeel4 those virus users, Not!
Buy a Mac! and $BUY AAPL stocks
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This real crap virus news is how m$oft gets their news / image out to the public!!! 🙁
Like a bad commercial!
iFeel4 those virus users, Not!
Buy a Mac! and $BUY AAPL stocks
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Israel would be my first choice.
The Pentagon would be my second choice.
Somebody who would gain by making making people believe it was either one of my previous choices would be my third choice.
You don’t want to hear my fourth choice, it involves Bil Gates, Steve Ballmer and Eric Schmidt, three cans of whipping cream and a pair of handcuffs…
Israel would be my first choice.
The Pentagon would be my second choice.
Somebody who would gain by making making people believe it was either one of my previous choices would be my third choice.
You don’t want to hear my fourth choice, it involves Bil Gates, Steve Ballmer and Eric Schmidt, three cans of whipping cream and a pair of handcuffs…
So at what point can the MS management be sent to Guantanamo Bay for aiding and assisting potential terrorists?
So at what point can the MS management be sent to Guantanamo Bay for aiding and assisting potential terrorists?
The fact that the inordinate number on infections happen to be in Iran should raise some eyebrows. I’m not sure that CIA would yet bother with this, however, MOSAD…?
Actually, the possible cost (in identifying and hiring the necessary manpower to develop this) associated with this isn’t that high, which means that any number of people or groups with some beef with Iran and their nuclear programme can afford to do this.
What makes the whole concept so scary is how relatively easy it is to inflict very serious damage to any major entity by developing Windows software.
The fact that the inordinate number on infections happen to be in Iran should raise some eyebrows. I’m not sure that CIA would yet bother with this, however, MOSAD…?
Actually, the possible cost (in identifying and hiring the necessary manpower to develop this) associated with this isn’t that high, which means that any number of people or groups with some beef with Iran and their nuclear programme can afford to do this.
What makes the whole concept so scary is how relatively easy it is to inflict very serious damage to any major entity by developing Windows software.
This reminds me of those movies where the government creates a bio weapon to unleash on enemies, only to find they cannot control it and it spreads to the whole world.
Well thanks to Isreal or ourselves, we’ve now got a big problem. The SCADA systems this virus is designed to attack don’t just control nuclear facilities in Iran, they control all kinds of infrastructure in the US. For instance, your municipal water system is probably controlled by some form or a SCADA system.
So now that this virus has been created an let loose in the wild, how long will it be before some hackers or another government tweaks it a bit so it attacks us. No water from your faucet, no flushing the toilet, traffic signals no longer work. Sounds like a pretty scary movie, except it could actually happen.
This reminds me of those movies where the government creates a bio weapon to unleash on enemies, only to find they cannot control it and it spreads to the whole world.
Well thanks to Isreal or ourselves, we’ve now got a big problem. The SCADA systems this virus is designed to attack don’t just control nuclear facilities in Iran, they control all kinds of infrastructure in the US. For instance, your municipal water system is probably controlled by some form or a SCADA system.
So now that this virus has been created an let loose in the wild, how long will it be before some hackers or another government tweaks it a bit so it attacks us. No water from your faucet, no flushing the toilet, traffic signals no longer work. Sounds like a pretty scary movie, except it could actually happen.
As with most everything else, empty suit Obama stands and stares at Iran like a deer in the headlights.
Watch in order:
Morning in America (60-seconds):
Mourning in America (60-seconds):
Did you vote for Obama? if so, WTF is wrong with you?
As with most everything else, empty suit Obama stands and stares at Iran like a deer in the headlights.
Watch in order:
Morning in America (60-seconds):
Mourning in America (60-seconds):
Did you vote for Obama? if so, WTF is wrong with you?
“The Stuxnet computer worm spreads through previously unknown holes in Microsoft’s Windows operating system and then looks for a type of software made by Siemens and used to control industrial components, including valves and brakes,…”
Valves and brakes, eh?
Hmmm, Ford, powered by Microsoft SYNC!
“The Stuxnet computer worm spreads through previously unknown holes in Microsoft’s Windows operating system and then looks for a type of software made by Siemens and used to control industrial components, including valves and brakes,…”
Valves and brakes, eh?
Hmmm, Ford, powered by Microsoft SYNC!
Are these systems even connected to the internet?
Seems like Security 101.
Are these systems even connected to the internet?
Seems like Security 101.
Wrong forum genius.
Blow it out your ass somewhere else.
Wrong forum genius.
Blow it out your ass somewhere else.
Take your crap somewhere else, lib bloodbath.
Take your crap somewhere else, lib bloodbath.
If this was designed to attack control systems at an Iranian nuclear plant, I would have to congratulate Mossad on another job well done.
Given that Iran has acquired the latest Russian anti-aircraft/anti-missile technology, rather than put its pilots at risk, Israel can be just as effective with a Windows virus. The Israelis are smart. Their intelligence agencies look to where the puck is going. And if they’re behind Stuxnet, it sends a message to their adversaries.
Well played.
If this was designed to attack control systems at an Iranian nuclear plant, I would have to congratulate Mossad on another job well done.
Given that Iran has acquired the latest Russian anti-aircraft/anti-missile technology, rather than put its pilots at risk, Israel can be just as effective with a Windows virus. The Israelis are smart. Their intelligence agencies look to where the puck is going. And if they’re behind Stuxnet, it sends a message to their adversaries.
Well played.
@Lib Bloodbath: Nov. 2nd:
Take it somewhere else, moron.
@Lib Bloodbath: Nov. 2nd:
Take it somewhere else, moron.
Are these systems even connected to the internet?
Likely not, if they have any brains.
The object is to get the worm close so it can jump over by someone using a infected drive, like what happened to the Pentagon systems.
Clearly the intention here is to cause a nuclear accident and wipe out the facility from within, as it’s likely a hardened site and unable to be bombed using conventional explosives from the outside.
Those responsible for this worm have only one chance at this really, so they likely also considered the possibility of the facility using a alternate operating system on their computers like OS X or even Linux. So I wouldn’t be surprised if it had the ability to infect those systems as well.
It’s just because Windows is so widespread and many people are looking for stuff to happen that it raised a alarm on their OS first.
Are these systems even connected to the internet?
Likely not, if they have any brains.
The object is to get the worm close so it can jump over by someone using a infected drive, like what happened to the Pentagon systems.
Clearly the intention here is to cause a nuclear accident and wipe out the facility from within, as it’s likely a hardened site and unable to be bombed using conventional explosives from the outside.
Those responsible for this worm have only one chance at this really, so they likely also considered the possibility of the facility using a alternate operating system on their computers like OS X or even Linux. So I wouldn’t be surprised if it had the ability to infect those systems as well.
It’s just because Windows is so widespread and many people are looking for stuff to happen that it raised a alarm on their OS first.
Let’s see … “… looks for a type of software made by Siemens and used to control industrial components …” … There must be hundreds, THOUsands of these things out there! Oh, wait, there are MILLIONS of Macs.
What does this say about the “security via obscurity” theory?
MDN claims “Off-topic and posts from suspected astroturfers will be removed.” So … why is the totally off-topic comment from “Lib Bloodbath” still up there? Along with the answer, which came five minutes later? Which it took me ten minutes to notice?
Just sayin …
Let’s see … “… looks for a type of software made by Siemens and used to control industrial components …” … There must be hundreds, THOUsands of these things out there! Oh, wait, there are MILLIONS of Macs.
What does this say about the “security via obscurity” theory?
MDN claims “Off-topic and posts from suspected astroturfers will be removed.” So … why is the totally off-topic comment from “Lib Bloodbath” still up there? Along with the answer, which came five minutes later? Which it took me ten minutes to notice?
Just sayin …
Libs/Progressives/Dems:
You voted for Obama, but I’m the “moron?”
Bwahahahahahahaha!
Thanks for the laugh. I’ll have an even bigger laugh the night of Nov. 2nd!
BTW, suckers: According to the latest Politico/George Washington University Battleground Poll, only 38 percent of respondents said Obama deserves to be reelected:
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0910/42737.html
The idiot should’ve never been elected in the first place.
Libs/Progressives/Dems:
You voted for Obama, but I’m the “moron?”
Bwahahahahahahaha!
Thanks for the laugh. I’ll have an even bigger laugh the night of Nov. 2nd!
BTW, suckers: According to the latest Politico/George Washington University Battleground Poll, only 38 percent of respondents said Obama deserves to be reelected:
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0910/42737.html
The idiot should’ve never been elected in the first place.
My career has included designing and programming PLC software for industrial process control. I don’t think most people grasp the full potential here.
Industrial process control deals with controlling live processes like the pressure in a boiler or pipeline, the closure of circuits supplying megawatts of electrical power, and the combination and composition of unstable chemicals in both nuclear and non-nuclear plants. This rogue code could be used to create refinery explosions, power plant explosions and outages, and catastrophic chemical releases. It would take thousands of bombers or missiles to do the same amount of damage from outside these systems. This is our first taste of warfare of the future.
And for those of you wondering why such systems are on the internet, largely they are not. but the Windows laptops and desktop machines used to create PLC code usually are. Most of these PLC systems work through an internal network, a private IP net, but once infected the internal network operates just like the internet.
If you understand the details of what’s going on here this is really scary stuff. It’s no longer data that’s at risk, but our whole society and human lives. Microsoft should be eliminated from the planet.
My career has included designing and programming PLC software for industrial process control. I don’t think most people grasp the full potential here.
Industrial process control deals with controlling live processes like the pressure in a boiler or pipeline, the closure of circuits supplying megawatts of electrical power, and the combination and composition of unstable chemicals in both nuclear and non-nuclear plants. This rogue code could be used to create refinery explosions, power plant explosions and outages, and catastrophic chemical releases. It would take thousands of bombers or missiles to do the same amount of damage from outside these systems. This is our first taste of warfare of the future.
And for those of you wondering why such systems are on the internet, largely they are not. but the Windows laptops and desktop machines used to create PLC code usually are. Most of these PLC systems work through an internal network, a private IP net, but once infected the internal network operates just like the internet.
If you understand the details of what’s going on here this is really scary stuff. It’s no longer data that’s at risk, but our whole society and human lives. Microsoft should be eliminated from the planet.
Hopefully, Iran doesn’t get the bomb while The Mistake is in office.
I love this one:
PPP: By a 50-42 margin, Ohio voters there say they’d rather have George W. Bush in the White House right now than Barack Obama.
Independents hold that view by a 44% – 37% margin and there are more Democrats who would take Bush back (11%) than there are Republicans who think Obama’s preferable (3%.)
http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2010/08/previewing-ohio.html
Hopefully, Iran doesn’t get the bomb while The Mistake is in office.
I love this one:
PPP: By a 50-42 margin, Ohio voters there say they’d rather have George W. Bush in the White House right now than Barack Obama.
Independents hold that view by a 44% – 37% margin and there are more Democrats who would take Bush back (11%) than there are Republicans who think Obama’s preferable (3%.)
http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2010/08/previewing-ohio.html
I am a PLC programmer with Siemens and this is truly astounding and quite scary. To be able to take over Windows is apparently simple but to re-program PLC code by hijacking SIMATIC Manager (which is the PLC prog. environment – kind of like Visual Studio for automation products) takes some seriously specialized knowledge. And if I understand the article, it doesn’t matter if the PLC (the machine controller) is on a network or not – if a programmer hooks up his/her laptop to a network back at the office (as we all do) the worm gets in there and then when they go to the factory to program or edit the PLC, the re-written code is xferred to the PLC whether or not it’s on a network. This is potentially huge! There are 1,000s of major factories around the world with Siemens PLCs on them, including munitions mfgrs, nuclear plants and Naval carriers. I think it’s time to use up my vacation time ’till this is resolved.
I am a PLC programmer with Siemens and this is truly astounding and quite scary. To be able to take over Windows is apparently simple but to re-program PLC code by hijacking SIMATIC Manager (which is the PLC prog. environment – kind of like Visual Studio for automation products) takes some seriously specialized knowledge. And if I understand the article, it doesn’t matter if the PLC (the machine controller) is on a network or not – if a programmer hooks up his/her laptop to a network back at the office (as we all do) the worm gets in there and then when they go to the factory to program or edit the PLC, the re-written code is xferred to the PLC whether or not it’s on a network. This is potentially huge! There are 1,000s of major factories around the world with Siemens PLCs on them, including munitions mfgrs, nuclear plants and Naval carriers. I think it’s time to use up my vacation time ’till this is resolved.
Nuclear power plants run under Windows. That’s mind-boggling! You have to believe firmly in a preordained Destiny for that.
Nuclear power plants run under Windows. That’s mind-boggling! You have to believe firmly in a preordained Destiny for that.
I see there’s Iran fear-mongering going on even on a Mac site.
Consider, Iran spends roughly $4 billion per year on its military; the U.S. is spending over $700 billion per year (and that’s not counting the expenses for Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, etc.); Iran hasn’t started a war in over a couple of CENTURIES. Remember, too, Israel has hundreds of nuclear weapons and has not signed the Nuclear Non-proliferation Treaty. Where is the outrage about that?
Iran is no more a threat than toothless old Iraq was. We’re being played like a fiddle by those who want endless wars.
I see there’s Iran fear-mongering going on even on a Mac site.
Consider, Iran spends roughly $4 billion per year on its military; the U.S. is spending over $700 billion per year (and that’s not counting the expenses for Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, etc.); Iran hasn’t started a war in over a couple of CENTURIES. Remember, too, Israel has hundreds of nuclear weapons and has not signed the Nuclear Non-proliferation Treaty. Where is the outrage about that?
Iran is no more a threat than toothless old Iraq was. We’re being played like a fiddle by those who want endless wars.
Lib Bloodbath: Nov. 2nd,
That same Politico / GWU poll found 81 percent of those polled get their news about the midterm elections from cable channels, like Fox News. Among cable news channels, Fox was the clear winner, with 42 percent of respondents saying it is their main source, compared with 30 percent who cited CNN and 12 percent who rely on MSNBC.
MSNBC is a BAD JOKE.
Bill O’Reilly was rated as having, by far, the greatest positive impact, with 49 percent of respondents rating him positively, and 32 percent negatively.
Glenn Beck was the second most-positively rated personality, with 38 percent of respondents saying he had a positive impact, and 32 percent saying he had a negative impact.
Rush Limbaugh was the third-most-positively ranked, with 36 percent saying he has a positive impact on the discourse, but his negatives far outweighed his positives, with 52 percent saying he has a negative impact.
MSNBC’s personalities were largely ranked as unknown by respondents: 70 percent said they had never heard of Ed Schultz, 55 percent said they had never heard of Rachel Maddow and 42 percent said they had never heard of Keith Olbermann.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0910/42738_Page2.html
Lib Bloodbath: Nov. 2nd,
That same Politico / GWU poll found 81 percent of those polled get their news about the midterm elections from cable channels, like Fox News. Among cable news channels, Fox was the clear winner, with 42 percent of respondents saying it is their main source, compared with 30 percent who cited CNN and 12 percent who rely on MSNBC.
MSNBC is a BAD JOKE.
Bill O’Reilly was rated as having, by far, the greatest positive impact, with 49 percent of respondents rating him positively, and 32 percent negatively.
Glenn Beck was the second most-positively rated personality, with 38 percent of respondents saying he had a positive impact, and 32 percent saying he had a negative impact.
Rush Limbaugh was the third-most-positively ranked, with 36 percent saying he has a positive impact on the discourse, but his negatives far outweighed his positives, with 52 percent saying he has a negative impact.
MSNBC’s personalities were largely ranked as unknown by respondents: 70 percent said they had never heard of Ed Schultz, 55 percent said they had never heard of Rachel Maddow and 42 percent said they had never heard of Keith Olbermann.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0910/42738_Page2.html
Lib Bloodbath is nothing more than a braying jackass begging for attention.
Lib Bloodbath is nothing more than a braying jackass begging for attention.
Why do the big companies see fit to use Windoze, with all it’s insecurities as an OS to drive their equipment? We just got a new CT scanner @ work (Philips Brilliance) and the damned thing runs on top of Windoze, which is as big a problem as you might imagine. Just like our CareStream CR readers, when there is a problem it’s not their HW or SW- it’s always the MicroSh8t OS that is the problem.
Our equipment based upon UNIX & Variants and LINUX never have these kind of issues. BTW- Apple is missing a great opportunity by banning the use of OSX in many commercial applications in the EULA.
Why do the big companies see fit to use Windoze, with all it’s insecurities as an OS to drive their equipment? We just got a new CT scanner @ work (Philips Brilliance) and the damned thing runs on top of Windoze, which is as big a problem as you might imagine. Just like our CareStream CR readers, when there is a problem it’s not their HW or SW- it’s always the MicroSh8t OS that is the problem.
Our equipment based upon UNIX & Variants and LINUX never have these kind of issues. BTW- Apple is missing a great opportunity by banning the use of OSX in many commercial applications in the EULA.
“Experts say Stuxnet’s knowledge of Microsoft’s Windows operating system, the Siemens program and the associated hardware of the target industry make it the work of a well-financed, highly organised team,”
Iran huh?… Israel, anyone?
“Experts say Stuxnet’s knowledge of Microsoft’s Windows operating system, the Siemens program and the associated hardware of the target industry make it the work of a well-financed, highly organised team,”
Iran huh?… Israel, anyone?
As with most everything else, empty suit Obama stands and stares at Iran like a deer in the headlights.
Tell me, what possesses you to come to a Mac forum to initiate a political slug fest? Do you honestly believe what you say here will actually make ANY difference?
I am really struggling to find out what could possibly be the reason for people to post their political opinions about American elected representatives on a technology site. How exactly does their brain operate? What is it they hope to accomplish? Do they honestly believe the if they write what they think (especially, if they do that in a condescending and offensive way), that they will successfully convert someone and get them to change their mind? Or do they just love the pissing contest so much that they simply can’t help themselves…?
These types of debates have pushed be away from MDN before. After four months away, I came back. I have to say, MDN has toned down their own message and are no longer inciting this kind of stuff. Apparently, those who used to quickly bite the MDN bait seem to still be around and, for the lack of the bait, will lunge on their own.
Please, folks, don’t. You should know this: nobody here is enjoying the political pissing matches. NOBODY. Really. NOBODY.
As with most everything else, empty suit Obama stands and stares at Iran like a deer in the headlights.
Tell me, what possesses you to come to a Mac forum to initiate a political slug fest? Do you honestly believe what you say here will actually make ANY difference?
I am really struggling to find out what could possibly be the reason for people to post their political opinions about American elected representatives on a technology site. How exactly does their brain operate? What is it they hope to accomplish? Do they honestly believe the if they write what they think (especially, if they do that in a condescending and offensive way), that they will successfully convert someone and get them to change their mind? Or do they just love the pissing contest so much that they simply can’t help themselves…?
These types of debates have pushed be away from MDN before. After four months away, I came back. I have to say, MDN has toned down their own message and are no longer inciting this kind of stuff. Apparently, those who used to quickly bite the MDN bait seem to still be around and, for the lack of the bait, will lunge on their own.
Please, folks, don’t. You should know this: nobody here is enjoying the political pissing matches. NOBODY. Really. NOBODY.
Given the sophistication of the code, combined with the lack of concern for collateral damage, I’d guess this is the work of Unit 8200.
Given the sophistication of the code, combined with the lack of concern for collateral damage, I’d guess this is the work of Unit 8200.
Please, don’t feed the trolls.
Please, don’t feed the trolls.
It was all fun and games when acquaintances’ computers could be botched by Windows infections, but this is just downright scary..
It was all fun and games when acquaintances’ computers could be botched by Windows infections, but this is just downright scary..
Who wants to stop Iran’s nuclear program more than the Israelis?
Who wants to stop Iran’s nuclear program more than the Israelis?
Wow, just wow. And I’ll even say it backwards – wow!
This worm is more sophisticated than prior malware by leaps and bounds! This must be the product of a government’s intelligence agency.
Wow, just wow. And I’ll even say it backwards – wow!
This worm is more sophisticated than prior malware by leaps and bounds! This must be the product of a government’s intelligence agency.
The guy @ Symantec’s name is nick failure? Really? LMFAO
The guy @ Symantec’s name is nick failure? Really? LMFAO
One way or another, the Israelis are not going to allow Iran to wield nuclear weapons targeted at Tel Aviv.
One way or another, the Israelis are not going to allow Iran to wield nuclear weapons targeted at Tel Aviv.
MDN:
You state “Off-topic and posts from suspected astroturfers will be removed.”
WHY are comments from Lib Bloodbath: Nov. 2nd still in the thread?
The political crap that keeps showing up really needs to be better policed & removed.
MDN:
You state “Off-topic and posts from suspected astroturfers will be removed.”
WHY are comments from Lib Bloodbath: Nov. 2nd still in the thread?
The political crap that keeps showing up really needs to be better policed & removed.
@Lib Bloodbath: Nov. 2nd
Is it safe to assume that you would have been happier with the “Mama Grizzly” in the White House? One of the big reasons that she and McCain did not get elected is that the GOP did not do very well over the eight years of the Bush administration. I see no reason to have expected massive improvement with the same, one-size-fits-all tax cut and spend solution, regardless of the GOP representative in office. Nor do I believe that McCain, Palin, or any other GOP representative would have had much greater success in rapidly repairing the economic situation created in large part by GWBush. Just because you may believe that does not make it so.
There is a saying about insanity with respect to doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.
But no amount of reason or fact will change your mind. I am once again wasting my time…
@Lib Bloodbath: Nov. 2nd
Is it safe to assume that you would have been happier with the “Mama Grizzly” in the White House? One of the big reasons that she and McCain did not get elected is that the GOP did not do very well over the eight years of the Bush administration. I see no reason to have expected massive improvement with the same, one-size-fits-all tax cut and spend solution, regardless of the GOP representative in office. Nor do I believe that McCain, Palin, or any other GOP representative would have had much greater success in rapidly repairing the economic situation created in large part by GWBush. Just because you may believe that does not make it so.
There is a saying about insanity with respect to doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.
But no amount of reason or fact will change your mind. I am once again wasting my time…
KingMel,
Bush was hardly a Conservative and pretending that all Republicans are like Bush only undermines your argument, not bolsters it.
No more RINOs!!!
KingMel,
Bush was hardly a Conservative and pretending that all Republicans are like Bush only undermines your argument, not bolsters it.
No more RINOs!!!
“Lib Bloodbath is nothing more than a braying jackass begging for attention.”
More than that actually, a paid RNC operative. They’re spending massively for under-the-radar hit operations. LB just gets paid by the post.
“Lib Bloodbath is nothing more than a braying jackass begging for attention.”
More than that actually, a paid RNC operative. They’re spending massively for under-the-radar hit operations. LB just gets paid by the post.
This is probably the most advanced worm ever written. I think this is a collaboration between USA and Israel, or just Israel alone. They have allot of skilled people over there.
This is probably the most advanced worm ever written. I think this is a collaboration between USA and Israel, or just Israel alone. They have allot of skilled people over there.
Sorry if I repeat something brought up by somebody else, but I have no time to read all comments.
This is in very short what I read this morning in a swiss newspaper:
1. Stuxnet is probably responsible for disrupting the Iranian Atomic project
2. Stuxnet is too elaborate to come from a single hacker. Conspiracy theorists say it is more likely it comes form a US or Israeli govt agency (Mossad).
You can read it in the attached link (Sorry it is french)
http://www.20min.ch/ro/news/monde/story/14053276
Sorry if I repeat something brought up by somebody else, but I have no time to read all comments.
This is in very short what I read this morning in a swiss newspaper:
1. Stuxnet is probably responsible for disrupting the Iranian Atomic project
2. Stuxnet is too elaborate to come from a single hacker. Conspiracy theorists say it is more likely it comes form a US or Israeli govt agency (Mossad).
You can read it in the attached link (Sorry it is french)
http://www.20min.ch/ro/news/monde/story/14053276
Hmmm, smart piece of malware. This could get ugly
And LibBloodbath, stop with the political bullshit and let’s all agree that Macs pwn. That’s what this site is for.
Hmmm, smart piece of malware. This could get ugly
And LibBloodbath, stop with the political bullshit and let’s all agree that Macs pwn. That’s what this site is for.