Adobe Flash hobbles Android use of BBC iPlayer versus iPhone

Apple Online Store“A Freedom of Information request to the BBC completed just Thursday has revealed that Android use of iPlayer may have been hurt, rather than helped, by the use of Flash,” Electronista reports. “As the Android version of iPlayer requires the still-rare Flash plugin to work, British viewers streamed just 6,400 episodes in July. In comparison, 5,272,464 shows streamed to iPad, iPhone and iPod touch owners.”

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“Much of the damage to Android has been done by OS and device fragmentation,” Electronista reports.

Electronista reports, “iOS devices were meanwhile helped by the BBC’s decision early on to use raw H.264 video and a native app. The format reduces the overhead to where even a 2007-era iPhone can play videos, and the approach is largely independent of any one iOS version. Battery use may also be lighter due to a reduced dependence on the main processor compared to Flash.”

Read more in the full article here.

MacDailyNews Take: If anyone outside of Microsoft would know better, it’d be the lazy ingrates at Adobe: GIGO. Having Adobe’s shitastic Flash on your phone isn’t a feature, it’s a handicap. Hey, wanna kill 5 minutes? Launch Photoshop.

[Thanks to MacDailyNews Readers “James W.” and “elder norm” for the heads up.]

41 Comments

  1. The user experience for the non geek customers is more important to Apple. Put Flash in the mix and millions of users will blame Apple for performance issues because they don’t know any better.

  2. Besides content Apple also sells products, the iPhone, iPod Touch and iPad and they want the user to experience a high level of satisfaction. Shoehorning crap desktop code into a mobile device will not enhance the user experience.

    Chewing up CPU cycles on a mobile devices kills battery life. The primary reason Apple doesn’t want Flash on iOS is they don’t want their customers calling complaining about their iOS device’s battery dying.

  3. Adobe sucks and there’s nothing any real user anywhere can say to defend their lazy syagnancy in software development.

    The only development Adobe has poured money into for tgr past 10-15 years, consistently, od copy procetion schemes.

    Die Adobe .

  4. Instead of loading PS try running Premiere or Premiere Elements. A crashing resource hogging nightmare! Compared to Final Cut or the Express version that just works. You worry about the editing of your video not about remembering to save or not to do certain thing that will make Premiere crash.

    Which is what any customer wants. They just wants it to work and do what they want.

    Will be glad when flash goes the way of the flash bulb.

  5. BBC iPlayer on iPhone and iPad is *not* a native app. It is a web app which runs in Safari, and has two different versions, one optimised for iPhone/iPod touch, and the other optimised for iPad. There are other versions optimised for desktop, and games consoles. The iPhone and iPad web apps are clever enough to allow themselves to be set as a springboard icon, like many other web apps, which let them start up without the usual Safari web furniture.

    If the Android browser is capable of displaying H.264 video then I don’t really see why the Beeb don’t just let Android use the iPhone version. I suspect the reason is down to the differing screen sizes and capabilities of Android devices.

  6. Xan makes a good point.

    I find it odd too that Android is stuck with a native app capable of only playing Flash versions of BBC’s content.

    Does that mean there is no browser-capable web app that allows Android to view H.264 video? If not, why not?

    If there is a native app on Android capable of displaying H.264, why doesn’t the Beeb use such metrics to quantify Android’s use?

    tangent>

    My PS CS4 launches very quickly, so I can’t imagine what MDN is talking about. There was a time when ALL of Adobe’s applications were dog-slow on launch, but not my CS4.

    I timed the launch of PS and the interface is ready in 15 seconds or less. If that is considered too much time, then someone needs to lighten up their schedule!

  7. Macaday – what do you use instead of Photoshop?

    I mostly use iPhoto for basics, then take selects into Photoshop for resizing, rgb-cmyk, retouching, tweaks, jpg-tif, etc.

    I’d happily use something else, so would be interested.

    Thanks.

  8. @ Out To Launch

    iTunes launch: 3 seconds
    Photoshop 12.01 launch: 12 seconds

    Model Name: MacBook
    Processor Name: Intel Core 2 Duo
    Processor Speed: 2 GHz, 2 cores
    Memory: 2 GB

    Pretty basic & outdated hardware, as a matter of fact.

  9. @Out To Launch;

    On my MacBook Air (the lowliest of the low, spec-wise, of all Apple machines- Slowest CPU, GPU and running an iPod HDD), iTunes takes “2 1/2 bounces in the dock” to launch.

    I’m calling BS!

  10. Chill out, you bunch of goobers: I was exaggerating, of course.

    @ Big Als MBP : Love Windows 7? No, but it’s not a bad OS.

    @ Moo : You can call it guacamole for all I care.

    @ BananaMoon :

    I’m usually using an iBook, and it’s definitely not speedy. Or worse yet, an old work PC with a Celeron processor. Now that’s painfully slow.

  11. OK. Not a Windows defender here, but iTunes DOES take a while to boot on Windows XP machine. I don’t blame Apple though. I suspect M$ is trying to hobble the operation of the application.

  12. 3 years since iPhone 1, and Adobe still can’t make it work smoothly, even with Google support. The only speedy avenue left is let Google have a look at the source code to their proprietary software and see if Google engineers can improve it, but that will be the kiss of death to Adobe’s franchise, because you know Google will just pull a Microsft – copy and make their own free version of the plugin.

  13. As I knew would happen, NOT having Flash on iOS devices is becoming an advantage for Apple. Meanwhile, more and more Android devices are going to get bogged down by having to play all of those countless Flash-based ads that pollute the Internet. Even MDN has FIVE of them showing, as I type this post.

  14. The reason why the beeb allows ios devices is because they check the device playing their video. On an an ios device they don’t have to worry (too much) that the content will be ripped off, circumventing that flash drm they slather over the desktop content. As it stands the android flash player doesn’t have the same layer of lock in. You can find out more here http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2010/08/html5_open_standards_and_the_b.html

    At least that’s what I garnered from reading the first paragraph and skipping to the end of the comments before posting an uninformed opinion

  15. @Out To Launch & whoever cares

    I have another Mac, 2003 or 2004, bought second hand. Now, THAT is outdated!

    Machine Name: Power Mac G4
    Machine Model: PowerMac3,6
    CPU Type: PowerPC G4 (3.3)
    Number Of CPUs: 2
    CPU Speed: 1.25 GHz
    L2 Cache (per CPU): 256 KB
    L3 Cache (per CPU): 2 MB
    Memory: 2 GB

    iTunes launch time: 4 seconds, with data for 11 447 songs to load

    Some of you guys should clean your OSes from time to time, period.

  16. @ Michael Logue,

    You say it took about 30 seconds, while silverhawk says 6.5 seconds for him, and BananaMoon got his up in 4 seconds on his Fred Flintstone era rig.

    OK, I just checked and iTunes bounced 20 times in the Dock and took 25 seconds to open. I only have 1,929 songs at present on my iBook. So where is the discrepancy coming from? Ever heard the phrase “Your results may vary”?

    Who is Moo going to call bullshit on now?

    @ BananaMoon,

    “Some of you guys should clean your OSes from time to time, period.”

    Like Windows users have to do? By insinuating that OS X needs to periodically be reformatted you just may incur the wrath of some of the ultra faithful here at MDN. You saw what happened when I implied that iTunes was slow to open for me. Any form of Apple criticism is frowned upon here; proceed at your own peril.

  17. @Out To Launch

    LOL … But I was not speaking about reformatting here, but about house cleaning and maintenance (repairing permissions,cleaning caches and logs… this kind of routine stuff).

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