The seven Nokia patents in this complaint relate to Nokia’s pioneering innovations that are now being used by Apple to create key features in its products in the area of user interface, as well as camera, antenna and power management technologies. These patented technologies are important to Nokia’s success as they allow better user experience, lower manufacturing costs, smaller size and longer battery life for Nokia products.
“Nokia has been the leading developer of many key technologies in small electronic devices” said Paul Melin, General Manager, Patent Licensing at Nokia. “This action is about protecting the results of such pioneering development. While our litigation in Delaware is about Apple’s attempt to free-ride on the back of Nokia investment in wireless standards, the ITC case filed today is about Apple’s practice of building its business on Nokia’s proprietary innovation.”
Source: Nokia
MacDailyNews Take: Can’t compete? Litigate.
[Thanks to MacDailyNews Reader “Karwa” for the heads up.]
What a joke.. after how many years, they decide to react now? MDN take says it all.
Nokia being a leading developer…. phe phe….
12 years and their phone are still shit. How are they a leading developer.
And besides… did you really think the US will allow a Finnish company overtake an American Icon?
They’ll go nowhere
Now, they’ve asked for war.
Apple helped design the first commercial digital camera. How the hell can Nokia have a camera patent that trumps that?
So what? Apple made a GSM phone and is selling them like crazy, so lets sue them!? Nokia is such a pathetic company. I hope they get there ass wiped. And am glad I never owned one of there products and that for the crap that the company decided to do here in Germany. Nokia go join M$ and burn in Hell!
Apple infringes Nokia’s patents with their computers? Who are these clowns trying to fool?
=:~)
If the case has any actual merit, and it may, then best of luck to them. They certainly did not expect Apple, of all potential competitors, to waltz in and grab a chunk of the most profitable sector of the market! So, initially there was considerable charity as the Cs chuckled at the newcomer. Then things went sideways and they had to adjust their strategy.
DO they have a case? I wouldn’t know that if all the relevant documents were laid out in front of me with a road-map to lead me through it! But they have told Apple that they are coming, which means that Apple will be looking at the facts and devising work-arounds where they – Apple – thinks they might possibly be on dangerous ground. Expect a number of innovations in the new iPhone this June, all related to this suit.
Microsoft spends its money on marketing.
Nokia spends its money on lawyers.
Apple spends its money on R&D;.
That says it all.
From what I can tell, RoughlyDrafted’s earlier article on the Nokia-Apple patent dispute continues to hold true:
[…] this is not a case of tit-for-tat as virtually every report so far has suggested. It’s a case of Nokia, finding itself well behind the curve in mobile phones, attempting to extort unfair, unreasonable, and discriminatory licensing terms against Apple for patents which Nokia has already committed to license under fair, reasonable and nondiscriminatory terms.
In case Nokia hasn’t noticed:
No one wants their phones backwards symbian phones anymore…That’s why their sales are fast dwindling.
Just like all the others that laughed at the iphone rather than transform and get with the times ( monkey boy Balmer, Colligen etc..) they still prefer to pursue politics of (self) destruction at their own peril. How smart…
The ITC case is where the real money will be made, if any. Nokia will now describe just how big a slice of Apple’s money it will need to STFU and go away. After which it will get back in line behind all the others.
bioness … granting that much of what you say is true, none of it has any impact on the facts of the case. Make it TWO dozen years of building crap phones, if they have the patents someone stepped on in making a GOOD phone … end of story.
As for a Finnish company vs an American one … Justice is Justice regardless of where the litigants hail from. Change that and you may still be talking about the LAW, but you are no longer talking about <u>Justice</u>. This is a hard truth many Americans struggle with, and still fail to understand. And many of the rest of us occasionally grind our teeth over it.
Chas … I think maybe they are talking about Airport?
Nokia is run by morons. Had they actually innovated, my last Nokia would have been different from the one from 1997. In reality, it was just physically smaller. Yup. That’s all they managed in a decade.
The MDN take is , as usual, strangely ironic and hypocritical since they are usually the loudest cheerleader for Apple’s litigious endeavors. Self awareness is rare quality these days.
oh SHUT THE EFF UP Nokia, you’d sell off your first born to keep Apple from making your own devs look like the complete morons…….OOOOPS, too late. I say in 2 years we’re all going to be saying ‘Nokia…….remember that company?’
AND……..If you notice….EVERYONE wants an iPhone I don’t care who you are, you may say you don’t but you do………the biggest thing that keeps everyone away is the carrier. So obviously if the iPhone was on multiple carriers there would only be ONE phone being sold right now…..one, and that’s the APPLE iPHONE…bee-otches.
This is yet another example of why we need tort reform. Yet we will never get it as long as the trial lawyers lobby has deep money in the Democratic party. This nation will perish unless we get rid of our arrogant government scum and replace it with responsible conservative leadership. It has been a very long time since we have had such leadership.
Time for a new American Revolution.
AND…….if you’ve paid attention to the MP3 player market, there is only ONE clear choice to make, hell even the word iPod is used to describe even the cheapest of crap wannabe digital music players because it is THE standard, just like the iPhone will be.
responsible conservative leadership
I love the smell of oxymorons in the morning.
I had a Nokia phone that fried my brain if I talked for more than a few minutes. Awful piece of shit. I wonder if I can sue them if I get brain cancer…
Hold on: if these patents were being violated, they were being violated when Nokia issued the first lawsuit.
Are Nokia actually trying to convince people that they’re discovering these “breaches” in their patents on a piecemeal basis, because – to me – it smells of “our case has to be larger and more wide-ranging than their case” which is more than a bit pathetic.
Oxymoron?
The only type of conservative leadership there is IS responsible. We are currently living under the very opposite of responsible conservative leadership: reckless statists tyranny.
It’s always interesting to see liberals criticize the notion of conservative leadership when, in fact, we have not had anything of the sort for a very long time. We had it imperfectly in Reagan, but that’s about it. Whereas we have had plenty of liberal governance as well as “compassionate conservatism”, which is nothing more than thinly veiled repackaged Republican liberalism. And sadly, the masses are easily swayed by slick-talking trash like Obama.
But I think the time is upon us that the American people will put their collective foot down and yell out loud and clear, “Leave us the hell alone!”
@Josh…
Yesterday, you were on your high horse parroting your Glen Beck-inspired teabagger nonsense about a government that restricts itself to its duties under the Constitution.
Can I just remind you that – under Article I, §8 of that document – the Federal Government is empowered to promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries.
For that benefit to accrue to American innovators (like Apple) against transgressors wherever they may be, the Federal Government has to allow foreign companies to make any case – no matter how ridiculous – to the courts in this country.
Otherwise, the USA would be no better than the People’s Republic of China.
Nokia pulls a Google move who would have guessed.
You would have to be pretty naive to think justice is justice no matter where it is judged. If so I wonder why litigents in patent disputes are exceedingly careful what state they litigate in. Equally in Europe France amongst others is not a place to try to get fair and reasonable justice against a French domiciled company with strong links or influence in that country. Meanwhile, Britain has come to be the defamation capital of the world for anyone in the World whose only link is that they once viewed a photo of Buckingham Palace, because of its ludicrous pro litigator bias and where as a result free speech is seriously threatened.
As Magnús Magnússon once said the Court system has nothing to do with justice it has everything to do with the most influential and wealthy participant instructing the ablest barrister to participate in a drawn out stage drama.
I think the real problem here is Nokia’s getting mud thrown in there face from a newcomer in the smart phone business that never designed a mobile phone before 2007. since the introduction of the iPhone Nokia’s stock has almost lost -50% and Apple stock has gained 150%. The day after Steve Jobs introduced the iPhone I read that Nokia’s stock declined 10% in Finland alone, pulling down the finnish stock exchange by nearly 7%, at this rate and for not having any competitive products as well as having ugly designs. Nokia is grabbing at the last straw here, and that all to save some face!
@mccfr
you’re not talking to a real person in Josh, who is capable of critical thinking. He’s a sheep, just like Thomas.
You’re offering perspective, they’re reading from a script. No matter the Apple subject, if it involves any semblance of political machinations, these clowns copy & paste prose from their playbook.
Josh probably can’t spell half the words he’s pasting, much less comprehend what they mean.
Oh and Reagan was a buffoon. Ask anyone who served in his military, especially the Marines, who lost 288 souls on his watch, in Beruit. All he did was cut and run!
@MCCFR,
I am glad that at the very least I was able to get you have a look at the Constitution. Perhaps your education has begun after all. I am rooting for you.
Nevertheless, I feel compelled to point out that you’re still falling back on the usual liberal crutches (e.g., Glen Beck, FOX News, et cetera). These fallacious non sequiturs are no better than yesterday’s assumption that someone besides my parents paid for my education. Seriously, it’s a big big world out there, even if you’re unaware of it, and Glen Beck is hardly the epicenter of libertarian or conservative thought – again, even if you are unaware of that – it IS, nevertheless, a true fact. So, no more non sequiturs, okie dokie?
As for your “For that benefit to accrue…” paragraph, well, I never argued otherwise. That’s a strawman argument. Like it or not, trial lawyers are a drain on this nation, and proper tort reform would NOT be unconstitutional – again, EVEN IF you are unaware of that true fact.
But I am not unsympathetic. I fully realize that liberals have to fall back on such fallaciousness, as no REAL arguments exist for their positions.
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@ G4Dualle,
I would gladly love to compare the thoughts of military personnel regarding Reagan vs. Clinton vs. Obama. Furthermore, you seem not to have noticed that I said “we had it imperfectly in Reagan”. For someone who presumes to have omnipotent insight into my spelling abilities, you seem to have trouble with the definition of the word, “imperfectly”.
Moreover, Reagan was a great President, but not anywhere near a perfect one. The facts, for those who will simply look at them, speak for themselves. Meanwhile, Obama is turning out to be a historically awful POTUS. He looks headed to join Jimmy Carter and LBJ on the podium of worst Presidents of the last 65 years.
Hey folks, how’s that HOPE and CHANGE working out for ya?
In case anyone is noticing, market cap, AAPL, US188B+, market cap NOK, US10B and change. If things get nasty, why not simply buy Nokia, fire everybody, and sell the remnants of the carcass to HonHai and Foxconn? Don’t think it’s not being considered. Investment bankers in SFO, rejoice!
spyinthesky, Justice IS Justice, regardless of the parties involved and the location of the dispute. That is what is called a tautology. Well, close enough. An application of the Law may or may not be Justice. You claim French Law is unjust when applied in a case of French vs non-French. That is NOT an example of Justice.
Using such an example of unjust Laws to promote further application of similarly unjust laws may feel good, but it does not promote Justice.
From the Preamble to the US Constitution, I quote: “in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure …”. If you cannot agree to that, you really ought not be allowed to live in the US. Unfortunately, much of our previous Administration was either ignorant of that clause or happily willing to act despite it. The current Party of NO (yeah, “Josh”, YOU) is similarly cavalier about the use of Truth and of Justice. My opinion, of course.
Sorry, my on-topic was used above.
@Josh
Thanks for the Intro to Logic, but this case makes for a strange segway for the crap you’re peddling. I’m quite sure Nokia’s lawyers will be paid regardless of the verdict and are not your typical ambance chasers. When this subject usually comes up is in the healthcare debate, but since lawsuits costs account for less than 1 percent of healthcare costs, it is hard to see its relevance in that debate either. Also, I am sure Apple was glad they were able to obtain their legal representation in defending their property in the Psystar case, but I bet you weren’t making the same comments on the Psystar threads.
Josh…
Thank you for your typically patronising response that actually adds nothing to your own original intellectually-stunted post.
I’ve actually been using Constitution for iPhone and iPod touch since it came out in 2008.
You really have that whole Conservative victim thing down to a tee; you know damn well that the reference to education was a HYPOTHETICAL response to your Scrooge-like position on healthcare. You think that the Federal Government should keep its nose out of healthcare because you don’t see why you should pay for something that isn’t enumerated in the Constitution?
Let’s extend that “logic”: how about we shut down FEMA (not enumerated).
So the next time the Governor of Texas (I’m not assuming your Texan or have any links with Texas – it’s what we call an example) rings up and asks (yet again) for help with some brush fire, hurricane or tornado, we should just tell him to go fish and that Josh said it was the right thing to do.
I’m sure Rick Perry will be OK with the whole thing and it’ll help him make his case for secession from the Union, so it’s a two-fer as far as I’m concerned.
I notice that you haven’t responded to the posts since, so you haven’t acknowledged that – for your position on healthcare to hold any validity – Medicare and Medicaid would have to cease with the effect of seniors being thrown out of nursing homes. It’s OK, I’m sure nobody here have parents or grandparents in Medicaid-supported facilities and, if they do, we’ll just say Josh said it was the smart thing to do.
You also haven’t responded to my post on the General Welfare clause in the Constitution.
How sad that the moment someone actually answers your nonsense, you run like the intellectual coward you obviously are.
@ MCCFR
Here’s a simple equation:
i>Josh = political troll</i>
Don’t feed the trolls — if we only respond to on-topic posts, they’ll eventually go away.
@ Josh
As one wiser than you or I once said, “I fart in your general direction!”
Hm…
I’m reminded that trying to teach the benefits of a liberal democracy in which social justice is paramount to some parts of the American electorate is like trying to teach a pig to sing!
According to Robert Heinlein (of all people), it’s a waste of my time and it annoys the pig.
@ MCCFR
Exactly! And since I used to be a pig farmer, I know it’s true…
Dear Apple
Hire more lawyers if needed but win this at all costs. Show the world not to mess with 1 Infinite Loop.
Nokia is taking a big risk. At best they might get $100m from Apple but still lose much more that this in the market place. At worst they will have to pay Apple much more in their patent fees. Risky business…
As much as I admire competition in biznizz, as much as I want to keep Nokia in the phone market, their lawsuit mania is indeed:
D E S P E R A T I O N
Good for Apple giving Nokia a good ripping back for their greed, stooopidity and arrogance.
What could be a good outcome might be enough evidence of the failure of the current software patent system to force international patent authorities to get real and cast of their blatant techno-ignorance that has fueled software patent lawsuit mania. – – It could happen!
MCFFR writes: “I’ve actually been using Constitution for iPhone and iPod touch since it came out in 2008.”
Me: Of course you have, dear.
Josh…
Given that you are a mean-spirited arrogant little twerp who understands very little about the world, I’d prefer it if you didn’t refer to me as “dear”.
Also, believe what you want – I no longer care having read some of the verbal diarrhoea you posted on the TSA thread; I’ve come to terms with the fact that you’re a hate-filled intellectually-stunted xenophobe with no sense of civic or social responsibility.
Go enjoy the rest of your contemptible life.
MCCFR, I’m sorry to have caused you a meltdown. I forgot that lefties are very thin-skinned girly men.
Wow, Josh must be 5 years old! Why would anyone let him loose, unsupervised? Do mom and dad know that he’s spouting their lame crap helter skelter on the internet?
@ MCCFR
You have simply proven what many of us have already noticed of the liberal persuasion… this incessant, childish, mean-spirited, hateful need to insult others with whom they don’t agree… How sad… You really do get my sympathy…
I think it comes from the fact that you are frustrated by having to sleep with liberal women….
Liberal women who look like Joy Behar, Andrea Mitchell, Gloria Steinem, Rachael Maddow, Nancy Pelosi, Barbara Boxer, yeeech!
Meanwhile, conservative women look more like Monica Crowley, Dana Perino, Laura Ingraham, Megyn Kelly, Julie Banderas, Michelle Malkin, Sarah Palin, Michele Bachmann, etc, etc…
No wonder why all liberal guys are gay….