“E-voting technology has come a long way since the 2000 U.S. presidential election, when voting equipment problems erased an estimated 1.5 million votes during one of the closest elections in U.S. history,” Robert McMillan reports for IDG News Service. “But progress has zig-zagged. After Congress passed the 2002 Help America Vote Act (HAVA), counties spent billions of dollars upgrading to new electronic voting machines, many of which have now been dumped because they were unusable or, worse still, untrustworthy.”
“California and Florida, for example, have mostly abandoned e-voting systems in favor of optical scan machines where a paper ballot is scanned into a computer, leaving a paper record of the vote that can be manually recounted in the event of an audit,” McMillan reports. “That’s the gold standard, voting experts say: voting machines that use paper ballots that are routinely audited for errors.”
McMillan reports, “And while election observers say that more people will vote on paper ballots using optical scan machines than did in 2004, there is still room for plenty of e-voting glitches this year in a race that could have the highest turnout in 100 years. Here are a few things that could go wrong with electronic voting on Nov. 4.”
What could go wrong:
• Machine malfunction
• Touch-screen calibration errors
• Training problems/Unskilled poll workers
• Human error by voters
• Voter registration database problems
• Malicious attack/Hacking the election
Full article here.
For all you bleeding heart Libs who hope for “unity” following this election:
Forget it. If Obama is elected, we will not forget nor will we excuse your vicious, nasty, 8 years of blind hate.
It’ll be payback time.
Always remember that roughly 60 million people (around half of all voters or every other person) will not have voted for Barack Hussein Osama bin Biden.
In short, if you Obamatards and your complicit media achieve your goal, prepare yourselves for 4 years of revenge.
For every little thing that goes wrong – we will loudly blame your president. We will pretend that Obama is Biden’s puppet. The whole ball of wax.
You reap what you sow.
BTW: Biden makes Dan Quayle sound like Albert Einstein, but the liberal media gives him a total pass.
God forbid “Carter II: Just Blacker” happens, but if it does, prepare for much disharmony.
The 2012 election cycle begins now.
What could go wrong: either 2008 candidate getting elected
MDN, can you please erase the first post? There is no place for this in civilized discussion.
Thank you.
One more thing: You reap what you sow.
Then just stop bitching about the foul taste of the fruits of your labour and be a man about it.
MDN word: “eight” I kid you not.
I voted last week in Georgia, where there are only electronic ballots. It’s a scary, scary thing to see the Windows “hourglass” icon pop up after each button is pushed!
And in an interface only a Windows developer could possibly think was appropriate, when you select a candidate, the box you touch turns into a RED X mark! Seriously, I thought the machine had crashed after I made my first selection. Unbelievable….
One More Thing = One More Coward because he doesn’t register his username.
May I recommend Internet Tough Guy magazine.
Only a retard would protest out of spite.
What could go wrong:
Diebold rigs the election for McCain.
It’s exactly these types of hateful words scattered all over the internet by mccain/palin supporters that makes this election decision easy for my independent vote. If the conservative “extremists” are this hate filled, then I want nothing to do with that party. Obama/Biden ’08
Kinda funny that when you load/refresh MDN, no matter what your political leanings are, you are always hoping for blue.
See! We’re all just Macheads. Can’t we all get along!
Now, go vote.
What I don’t understand is that you read about all these governmental contracts, in countries around the world, where they spend billions and then the systems don’t work. Is there no accountability from the providers that the stuff they’re selling will work and be fit for purpose? It just seems to be accepted. I never hear about governmental bodies getting huge refunds.
@One more thing…..
I think you need a hug
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Dude, he is an idiot, but have you heard all the hateful things over the last 8 years? There are some on both sides.
Now go vote!
@One More Thing
It’s pretty early in the day. Giving up hope already, are we?
my post the other day with some swearing in it gets yanked, yet the swill of “one more time” i s ok?
pfft
macaholic,
Just because an opinion runs counter to yours does not mean it should be censored.
But, of course, you’re a liberal Obamatard, so you think it should be.
I’m only spreading the wealth. Just waiting for Biden’s major crisis, that’s all.
MDN, please erase the first post by One More Thing. It has no place in or relevance to this article.
@one more thing
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Nice try but it is clear you are just having fun trying to get people riled for the hell of it. You probably are a liberal Mac user but clearly show a fair amount of immaturity so I am guessing you are of high school age.
C’mere and give me a big hug you silly kid
Well, this article gives the Dems an excuse if McCain wins. They always need a crutch, a target to blame.
@ One More Thing
This is a difference between having a civil discussion and having a strong opinion and hateful and disrespectful speech.
I agree with many of you please erase the first post by One More Thing, this person offers us nothing in a civil discussion.
As for what could go wrong, in my experience as a former poll worker anything and everything.
My civics teacher said that electing Obama would be bad for the country and my mom never lies.
Watching the Lib Obamatards crawling out from the woodwork demanding censorship because “One more thing’s” comment conflicts with their cloistered, warped worldview is a laugh.
There is nothing in “One more thing’s” comment that warrants removal. The Libs just can’t stand the HarshTruth.
Typical lib trying to silence an opposing view. I’m sure you support the fairness doctrine too you ahole.
All I know is: http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/11/04/vafairfax-county-machine-problems/
The Little Red Hen called all of her Democrat neighbors together and said, ‘If we plant this wheat, we shall have bread to eat. Who will help me plant it?’
‘Not I,’ said the cow.
‘Not I,’ said the duck.
‘Not I,’ said the pig.
‘Not I,’ said the goose.
‘Then I will do it by myself,’ said the little red hen, and so she did. The wheat grew very tall and ripened into golden grain.
‘Who will help me reap my wheat?’ asked the little red hen.
‘Not I,’ said the duck..
‘Out of my classification,’ said the pig.
‘I’d lose my seniority,’ said the cow.
‘I’d lose my unemployment compensation,’ said the goose.
‘Then I will do it by myself,’ s aid the little red hen, and so she did.
At last it came time to bake the bread.
‘Who will help me bake the bread?’ asked the little red hen.
‘That would be overtime for me,’ said the cow.
‘I’d lose my welfare benefits,’ said the duck.
‘I’m a dropout and never learned how,’ said the pig.
‘If I’m to be the only helper, that’s discrimination,’ said the goose.
‘Then I will do it by myself,’ said the little red hen.
She baked five loaves and held them up for all of her neighbors to see. They wanted some and, in fact, demanded a share. But the little red hen said, ‘No, I shall eat all five loaves.’
‘Excess profits!’ cried the cow. (Nancy Pelosi)
‘Capitalist leech!’ screamed the duck. (Barbara Boxer)
‘I demand equal rights!’ yelled the goose. (Jesse Jackson)
The pig just grunted in disdain. (Ted Kennedy)
And they all painted ‘Unfair!’ picket signs and marched around and around the little red hen, shouting obscenities.
Then the farmer (Obama) came. He said to the little red hen, ‘You must not be so greedy.’
‘But I earned the bread,’ said the little red hen.
‘Exactly,’ said Barack the farmer. ‘That is what makes our free enterprise system so wonderful. Anyone in the barnyard can earn as much as he wants. But under our modern government regulations, the productive workers must divide the fruits of their labor with those who are lazy and idle.’
And they all lived happily ever after, including the little red hen, who smiled and clucked, ‘I am grateful, for now I truly understand.’
But her neighbors became quite disappointed in her. She never again baked bread because she joined the ‘party’ and got her bread free. And all the Democrats smiled. ‘Fairness’ had been established.
Individual initiative had died, but nobody noticed; perhaps no one cared…so long as there was free bread that ‘the rich’ were paying for.
EPILOGUE
Bill Clinton is getting $12 million for his memoirs.
Hillary got $8 million for hers.
That’s $20 million for the memories from two people, who for eight years, repeatedly testified, under oath, that they couldn’t remember anything.
All I know is being an independent, with each passing year I realize I’ll probably never vote Republican again because I’ll never vote along with the people who by and large are spreading far more hate than most people on the left.
Fear and hate are the new foundations of the Republican base. Sadly, the traditional true Republicans are people I could align with but they are a dying breed.
I almost forgot: Of course, we’ll also have to go around screaming “Dems Stole the election!” like vacuous idiots for the next 4 years until the mistake can be corrected, if a mistake occurs:
GOP Election Board members have been tossed out of polling stations in at least half a dozen polling stations in Philadelphia because of their party status.
A Pennsylvania judge previously ruled that court-appointed poll watchers could be NOT removed from their boards by an on-site election judge, but that is exactly what is happening, according to sources on the ground.
It is the duty of election board workers to monitor and guard the integrity of the voting process.
Denying access to the minority (in this case Republican) poll watchers and inspectors is a violation of Pennsylvania state law. Those who violate the law can be punished with a misdemeanor and subjected to a fine of $1,000 and sent to prison between one month and two years.
Those on site are describing the situation as “pandemonium” and there may be video coming of the chaos.
Some of the precincts where Republicans have been removed are: the 44th Ward, 12th and 13th divisions; 6th Ward, 12th division; 32nd Ward, Division 28.
http://townhall.com/blog/g/cf47766b-5a6d-44ab-95e7-ce60631bcadc
I think that by the end of the day, HarshTruth’s harsh truth will be something he won’t like to swallow.
That bile filled spite, along with the first poster’s hate, is one of the reasons I am very frightened of the Republican Party.
No, let the post stay as a monument to human hate, and a reason to vote for someone that wants to bring people together instead of splitting them along racial lines.
I find it funny how the McTards out there think that:
* If you grow up in Hawaii, raised by your grandparents,you’re ‘exotic, different.’
BUT
* If you grow up in Alaska eating moose burgers, you’re a quintessential American story.
* If your name is Barack, you’re a radical, unpatriotic Muslim.
BUT
* If you name your kids Willow, Trig and Track, you’re a maverick.
* If you graduate from Harvard law School, you are unstable.
BUT
* If you attend 5 different small colleges before graduating, you’re well grounded.
* If you spend 3 years as a brilliant community organizer, become the first black President of the Harvard Law Review, create a voter registration drive that registers 150,000 new
voters, spend 12 years as a Constitutional Law professor, spend 8 years as a State Senator representing a district with over 750,000 people, become chairman of the state Senate’s Health and Human Services committee, spend 4 years in the United States Senate representing a state of 13 million people while sponsoring 131 bills and serving on the Foreign Affairs, Environment and Public Works and Veteran’s Affairs committees, you don’t have any real leadership experience.
BUT
* If your total resume is: local weather girl, 4 years on the city council and 6 years as the mayor of a town with fewer than 7,000 people, 20 months as the governor of a state with only 650,000 people, then you’re qualified to become the country’s second highest ranking executive.
* If you have been married to the same woman for 19 years while raising 2 beautiful daughters, all within Protestant churches, you’re not a real Christian.
BUT
* If you cheated on your first wife with a rich heiress, and left your disfigured wife and married the heiress the next month, you’re a Christian.
* If you teach responsible, age appropriate sex education, including the proper use of birth control, you are eroding the fiber of society.
BUT
* If, while governor, you staunchly advocate abstinence only, with no other option in sex education in your state’s school system, while your unwed teen daughter ends up pregnant , you’re very responsible.
* If your wife is a Harvard graduate lawyer who gave up a position in a prestigious law firm to work for the betterment of her inner city community, then gave that up to raise a family, your family’s values don’t represent America’s.
BUT
* If you’re husband is nicknamed ‘First Dude’, with at least one DWI conviction and no college education, who didn’t register to vote until age 25 and once was a member of a group that advocated the secession of Alaska from the USA, your family is extremely admirable.
Rahrens,
You Libs only want to “bring people together” when you’re in charge.
Thanks for all of your support and unity under President Bush, you duplicitous scumbags.
Like I said, you reap what you sow.
See the documentary “Democracy Hacked”. Proof of electronic voting fraud by Diebold.
PRESIDENT OBAMA.
And you BETTER get used to it, Cons.
One more thing is yet another who can never debate the facts and has to resort to name-calling and frothy vitriol.
How typical.
Mike F.,
You seem to be confused. Obama is running against McCain, not Palin.
Compare “Foot in Mouth Serial Plagiarist” Joe Biden to Palin if your bleeding heart so desires.
Also, realize that Palin is the future first woman U.S. President. And she’s a Reagan Republican, not a whiny Pelosi Liberal loon.
As a non-US citizen, I’m still amazed by this obsession of using electronic voting machines.
You know how they do it in Germany? Local politicians and officials (mixed parties, so that there’s no foul play) man the polling offices and count the ballots by hand! After that, the results are phoned to the central offices.
And the end result is there four or five hours after the polling offices have closed. And there are 80 million citizens in Germany, compared to 300 million in the US. Doesn’t seem that much smaller to adopt a similar procedure.
“You Libs only want to ‘bring people together’ when you’re in charge.” – One more thing
So true it hurts!
Well creationists and neo-nazies, with a bunch of other extremists, could make alliance and try to kill Obama…
@one more thing
Don’t worry. I think the Democrats are used to your tactics after 8 years of how you treated Clinton.
The leftist Obamatards us are so used to hearing their groupthink regurgitated back to them in the media that when they are confronted by differing viewpoints here (and in rare places like Fox News, Rush Limbaugh) they cannot handle it and scream for censorship in order to to spare their weak minds.
If you don’t like hearing/reading/seeing it, then you simply can’t handle the HarshTruth.
Just because practice avoidance, doesn’t mean that the HarshTruth doesn’t exist.
@Hen,
I hope you are intentionally underestimating the intelligence of readers here. These stories of yours belong at bible school.
The first post is a) Off Topic, b) filled with offensive speech, and c) patently untrue. I guess I can deal with a), and maybe with c), but b) is certainly grounds for removal.
On Topic: the Diebold machines still in use in many districts have been shown to ring up Republican votes when the voter clearly indicated a different choice. Proof of their programming can also be found in the fact that quite a number of districts using them claimed more votes than registered voters! The same machines as used as automated bank tellers, but they CAN’T provide a paper tally?
Damn! If HarshTruth is a typical american… someone should atomize America!
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lol
I hope he’s not… and there still some hope for humanity!
@ Mike F.
You left out:
• If your minister spews racially-motivated invective with which you don’t agree, you are nonetheless guilty by association of not representing American values,
BUT
• If your minister proclaims the End Times are near, and God has told you Alaska is the preserve for his remaining disciples, you are eminently qualified to be a heartbeat away from the command of our nuclear arsenal.
• If you seek to help undo the financial injustice of the last eight years by giving a tax break to the vast majority of citizens who need it at the minor expense of those who have an enormous amount more than everybody else, you’re a socialist for wanting to redistribute the wealth,
BUT
• If you’re a governor that manages a tax increase on a business making ever record profits so that everybody gets a share of the wealth, your a staunch conservative vastly more qualified to run the Senate, or whatever.
I’m also with you, rahrens & Macromancer. I’ve been an independent for several decades, and have voted for both Democrats and Republicans in the past. I have learned to expect some distortions and outright lies during campaign season by both parties. But am so disgusted by the viciousness, bile, hate, spite and outrageous hypocrisy of the core Republicanazis that I can’t vote for a single Republican this year. I remember how many of you partied hearty in 2000, telling Democrats that “paybacks are a bitch”. Laugh some more for us after this election.
If you want to post a response to me One More Time, or HarshTruth, or Hen, I try being a man and not a coward by posting your real name (or names, in the remote possibility that there really is more than one person behind this lunacy). My father fought against facists like you in World War II, and his generation kicked your butts then. ‘Nuff said.
I think most reasonable people should at least be able to agree that:
• McCain is a good man who got screwed by Bush and the economy
• The U.S mainstream media has really gone to pot — they are so blatantly behind Obama it’s ridiculous.
• Because of the failure of the media, we do not know much about Obama and that could be dangerous
• Obama is one of the most liberal and inexperienced candidates ever.
@Jennifer….
Palin will never be president…Americans, even republicans are just not that stupid.
A french radio station CKOI called her up pretending to Sarkozy (that is the president of france as you probably DON’T know). She came off as such a clueless idiot that the whole world now knows what a bimbo and featherweight she really is…..sort of see come parallels with you if i am not mistaken.
President Obama…kind of a nice ring to it.If he was running in Canada, he would win in a landslide
One More Thing = a bleeding asshole conservative
How To Steal An Election:
You wannabe American. Everyone knows Canadians are commies. Your pathetic country couldn’t fight it’s way out of a paper bag.
@ Kevin J. Weise
I think One More Time, or HarshTruth, or Hen, are all the same young kid who is feeling unloved and is only doing this to get attention. Let’s all offer him a hug so he will feel better and grow up to be a good caring person and mac user
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C’mon One More Time, aka HarshTruth, aka Hen….you know you wanna…..
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@ Kevin
Your father also fought against censorship too (which is a basic tenet of fascism).
I may disagree with what has been said by some on this board, but I will defend their right to say it and express their opinion, no matter how extreme.
For any, who cannot handle some extreme talk, and I submit that this is mild, you need to grow a set, seriously.
What could possibly go wrong? Obama could be elected! That’s what!
@@Buster
I love and respect Americans but am quite happy being a commie…errr…Canadian.
Don’t forget we burned down your White House, threw a party then went back to Canada to brag about it.
hahahah we still laugh about it today …you wimp.
jake = commie-terrorist loving traiter
I liked the Hen post. The truth hurts.
The Black Panthers are now intimidating voters here with night sticks. You libs are disgusting.
SPEAKING OF KENYA, OBAMA HAS HIS STINKING HANDS IMMERSED THERE TOO…………Obama’s Family Ties to Radical Islam
An observation about the 20years with Reverend Wreight:
Two possible explainations for how someone that was married by Wreight, had him baptize his children, and spent 20 years in his church saing he did not know what Wreight is about:
1. Obama is telling the truth that he did not know-
Conclusion he is a moron and cannot possibly handle the job as POTUS.
2. Obama is lieing about Wright-
Conclusion he is a liar and so is someone to trust
Obamanoids, please pic
@hen and @ one more thing. I think you should get married and lay an egg. It will be one bad mother of an egg. eeessh! Odor Eater!
Meantime ….. Chelsea Clinton for Prez 2012!!!!!
There are some real people here thank God. I salute you MikeF rahrens, MacroMancer and Kevin J Weise. Don’t ever falter against these kinds of cancerous fools. They were probably bottle-fed sour milk as babes.
Finally, in the most technically advanced country in the world, they can send guys to the moon but they cannot protect voters’ rights and count them accurately. I wonder why?
The priority Federal budget item should be to mandate the introduction of modern tamper-proof, ease of use voting machines with a numbered receipt and audit trail. The second budget priority is to provide fresh milk to all bottle-feeders and kill the cancerous mentality at source.
Tahtah and goodbye
In these 10 Democrat controlled cities, more US Citizens have been murdered in the last year
than US Service personnel in IRAQ…so where’s the Democrat outrage?
What do the top ten cities with the highest poverty rate all have in common?
1. Detroit, MI (1st on the poverty rate list) hasn’t elected a Republican mayor since
1961.
2. Buffalo, NY (2nd) hasn’t elected a Republican mayor since
1954.
3. Cincinnati, OH (3rd) hasn’t elected a Republican mayor since
1984.
4. Cleveland, OH (4th) hasn’t elected a Republican mayor since
1989.
5. Miami, FL (5th) has never had a Republican mayor.
6. St. Louis, MO (6th) hasn’t elected a Republican mayor since
1949.
7. El Paso, TX (7th) has never had a Republican mayor.
8. Milwaukee, WI (8th) hasn’t elected a Republican mayor since
1908.
9. Philadelphia, PA (9th) hasn’t elected a Republican mayor since
1952.
10. Newark, NJ (10th) hasn’t elected a Republican mayor since
1907.
Einstein once said, ‘The definition of insanity is doing the same
thing over and over again and expecting different results.’
It is the disadvantaged who habitually elect Democrats —yet
remain disadvantaged.
‘Poor People have been voting for Democrats for the last 50 years,
… and they are still poor.’
Sir Charles Barkley — the Round Mound of Rebound
All democrats speak about how great Obama is, and how Clinton was one of our greatest Presidents. But when you ask any democrat to name 5 things that Obama and Clinton have done that was good for this country and you get the same blank look because they cant name anything that they’ve done, most especially Obama. The reason, because they have never done anything for this country.
So I will put this out there on all these chats, if any Dem can name 5 things that Obama has done for this country I will vote democrat for the first and only time in my life… I dont worry because Dems are lucky if they can come up with 2. its just Democrats are easily brainwashed by the nedia and hollywood, maybe if they put down Star magazine, shut off TMZ, and stopped listening to morons like Barbara Streisand, Bruce Springsteen and Madonna, and actually take a look at what the candidates have done their entire life for their country, it should be obvious that only one man has devoted his entire life to service of his country. Whether you agree with everything he’s done or stands for, it is without question he is the best qualified to lead a nation, not some Ivy league aristocrat who thinks he is our saviour. I mean come on Pillars at the DNC, thats ridiculous, who does this guy think he is?
IN OBAMA WE TRUST: ‘He Is Going To Pay For My Gas And Mortgage’…
Clinton administration strikes a blow for middle America, loosens credit constraints and opens up the American dream to “minorities and low-income consumers”…
By STEVEN A. HOLMES
Published: September 30, 1999
In a move that could help increase home ownership rates among minorities and low-income consumers, the Fannie Mae Corporation is easing the credit requirements on loans that it will purchase from banks and other lenders.
The action, which will begin as a pilot program involving 24 banks in 15 markets — including the New York metropolitan region — will encourage those banks to extend home mortgages to individuals whose credit is generally not good enough to qualify for conventional loans. Fannie Mae officials say they hope to make it a nationwide program by next spring.
Fannie Mae, the nation’s biggest underwriter of home mortgages, has been under increasing pressure from the Clinton Administration to expand mortgage loans among low and moderate income people and felt pressure from stock holders to maintain its phenomenal growth in profits.
In addition, banks, thrift institutions and mortgage companies have been pressing Fannie Mae to help them make more loans to so-called subprime borrowers. These borrowers whose incomes, credit ratings and savings are not good enough to qualify for conventional loans, can only get loans from finance companies that charge much higher interest rates — anywhere from three to four percentage points higher than conventional loans.
”Fannie Mae has expanded home ownership for millions of families in the 1990’s by reducing down payment requirements,” said Franklin D. Raines, Fannie Mae’s chairman and chief executive officer. ”Yet there remain too many borrowers whose credit is just a notch below what our underwriting has required who have been relegated to paying significantly higher mortgage rates in the so-called subprime market.”
Demographic information on these borrowers is sketchy. But at least one study indicates that 18 percent of the loans in the subprime market went to black borrowers, compared to 5 per cent of loans in the conventional loan market.
In moving, even tentatively, into this new area of lending, Fannie Mae is taking on significantly more risk, which may not pose any difficulties during flush economic times. But the government-subsidized corporation may run into trouble in an economic downturn, prompting a government rescue similar to that of the savings and loan industry in the 1980’s.
”From the perspective of many people, including me, this is another thrift industry growing up around us,” said Peter Wallison a resident fellow at the American Enterprise Institute. ”If they fail, the government will have to step up and bail them out the way it stepped up and bailed out the thrift industry.”
Under Fannie Mae’s pilot program, consumers who qualify can secure a mortgage with an interest rate one percentage point above that of a conventional, 30-year fixed rate mortgage of less than $240,000 — a rate that currently averages about 7.76 per cent. If the borrower makes his or her monthly payments on time for two years, the one percentage point premium is dropped.
Fannie Mae, the nation’s biggest underwriter of home mortgages, does not lend money directly to consumers. Instead, it purchases loans that banks make on what is called the secondary market. By expanding the type of loans that it will buy, Fannie Mae is hoping to spur banks to make more loans to people with less-than-stellar credit ratings.
Fannie Mae officials stress that the new mortgages will be extended to all potential borrowers who can qualify for a mortgage. But they add that the move is intended in part to increase the number of minority and low income home owners who tend to have worse credit ratings than non-Hispanic whites.
Home ownership has, in fact, exploded among minorities during the economic boom of the 1990’s. The number of mortgages extended to Hispanic applicants jumped by 87.2 per cent from 1993 to 1998, according to Harvard University’s Joint Center for Housing Studies. During that same period the number of African Americans who got mortgages to buy a home increased by 71.9 per cent and the number of Asian Americans by
46.3 per cent.
In contrast, the number of non-Hispanic whites who received loans for homes increased by 31.2 per cent.
Barack Obama’s Kenyan family to celebrate by slaughtering bulls, chicken and goats:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/africa/article5082040.ece
Mosseburgers, indeed.
Despite these gains, home ownership rates for minorities continue to lag behind non-Hispanic whites, in part because blacks and Hispanics in particular tend to have on average worse credit ratings.
In July, the Department of Housing and Urban Development proposed that by the year 2001, 50 percent of Fannie Mae’s and Freddie Mac’s portfolio be made up of loans to low and moderate-income borrowers. Last year, 44 percent of the loans Fannie Mae purchased were from these groups.
The change in policy also comes at the same time that HUD is investigating allegations of racial discrimination in the automated underwriting systems used by Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to determine the credit-worthiness of credit applicants.
Leave the first post up. It simply demonstrates the intolerance and hatred of the extreme right wing. It’s my way or the doorway. That’s all they seem to understand. Reduce everything to a battle of THEIR view of good and evil. That works well for Saturday afternoon B-movie matinées but not in real life. Real life is full of nuance and subtlety.
Sorry to say that “one more thing” just doesn’t understand the process. Life is built on choices. You don’t have to agree with them to appreciate the process. Be glad that you have a choice. Many on the planet do not.
“It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.”
– Aristotle
Clearly, “one more thing” fails this simple test.
As for voting, we do it here with a simple paper ballot. They’re counted manually, re-counted if necessary and kept in case additional re-counts in close races are required. The argument of population size is often used as an argument against this method, but it’s simply not valid. Your electoral districts are broken down into smaller polling areas, just like everywhere else. Poll captains/clerks can count the ballots in an hour or less. Each party can appoint scrutineers to oversee the count. No nefarious machines required. No accusations of backroom shenanigans can even be broached in such a system. On election night here (Canada) we know who won within a couple of hours. No need to ask a stacked-court to decide the outcome.
Curtis
Buster sucks the big one.
Canada Sucks!
Who gives a rat’s ass about Canadacommies.
“Canada Sucks!”
“Who gives a rat’s ass about Canadacommies.”
I do and you should too. Maybe we should sabre-rattle and threaten to shut off the water and oil. THAT’S an approach you MIGHT understand. Perhaps we should consider importing and/or selling a lot less than we do from and to the US. Uninformed, under-educated people like you simply do not understand how important and symbiotic our relationship is.
And yes, your insightful comments simply prove my point.
I reiterate:
“It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.”
– Aristotle
For your edification and elucidation I’ve included definitions of some of the bigger words:
symbiosis |ˈsɪmbɪˈəʊsɪs| |-bʌɪ-|
noun ( pl. -ses |-siːz|) Biology
interaction between two different organisms living in close physical association, typically to the advantage of both. Compare with antibiosis .
• a mutually beneficial relationship between different people or groups : a perfect mother and daughter symbiosis.
edification |ˈɛdɪfɪˈkeɪʃ(ə)n|
noun formal
the instruction or improvement of a person morally or intellectually : the idea that art’s main purpose is to supply moral uplift and edification.
elucidate |ɪˈl(j)uːsɪdeɪt|
verb [ trans. ]
make (something) clear; explain : work such as theirs will help to elucidate this matter See note atclarify . : [with clause ] in what follows I shall try to elucidate what I believe the problems to be |[ intrans. ] they would not elucidate further.
“Who gives a rat’s ass about Canadacommies.”
Technically this is a question, not a basic statement. As such it requires a question mark to be valid. That aside the ignorant comments only lead credence to the thought of Americans who care nothing for the outside world, while maintaining a falsely bloated view of themselves.
Canadians = Backwoods losers
“Comment from: Canadians
Canadians = Backwoods losers”
Spoken like the spawn of siblings.
Canada, a nation of whimps!
Well, we may be but at least we’re allowed to marry outside of our own family.
Whimp is a super whimp, you canuck!
… at the underbelly of the religious WRONG since 1957.
You’re such an easy target. Scared cows make the best hamburger.
Guns and bibles. What an odd combination. Not really different from any intolerant, religious extremist including the mysteriously elusive bin Laden. You can find all sorts of spurious connections between politicians and their past acquaintances but you cannot find a tall diabetic, man in the wilderness. HA!
Wow, what’s with all the Canada-bashing!??!
Those are the people that Obama hangs out with. Reverend Wright for 20 plus years. He married Obama. Close advisor, etc. That’s the real Obama.
Canadians are always poking their noses and commie opinions into American politics. They shouldn’t do it if they can’t take the heat.
“@FC
Canadians are always poking their noses and commie opinions into American politics. They shouldn’t do it if they can’t take the heat.”
Bring it on. Oh, and buy then read a dictionary before you dish out adjectives that you don’t understand.
The first post from “One More Thing” is a perfect example of why I plan to take tomorrow off from work after the massive and historic Obama victory . . . the frothing lunacy, the hateful screeching, and pitiful moaning that will spew forth from the airwaves of talk radio, Fox News, and the wingnut blogosphere will be a thing to behold, and I plan to savor every last bit of delicious schadenfreude.
Who would have thought the party of “manly men” would become such pathetic mewling whiners? “The people we’ve sent to intimidate voters at the polls are being intimidated! Waah!”… “We’re the ones supposed to be able to buy elections by having our billionaire paymasters flood the airwaves with attack ads – and we’re being outspent 3 to 1?! Not fair!!!” Delicious
Oh, and I put up some of my own thoughts on the current election, expressed via some of my favorite movie clips, on Youtube last night. (edited in iMovie, naturally!!)
It’s a mild, sunny day.
I think I really like vanilla.
Don’t Vote!
Support Anarchy!
We dont need government.
The style of political “discussion” in the US makes me sick. Some republicans don’t have better manners than Mugabes followers in Zimbabwe.
I’m glad we have a civilized democracy over here, where one man gets one vote and the hatred is limited to neo-fascist and neo-communists…
If Obama wins this election, the main reason will be that he is intelligent and has showed good manners during the last two years. He is a man who could be a role model for a child, the first poster could only be a role model for a child molester…
The MDN doesn’t remove his post is a sign of lacking civility for me!
When is Australia going to have an aborigine running their country?
@Bob….lucky for me you have a little one
@Funky Chicken…Bob/Matt/Whimp (sic) and One more thing etc are all the same little misguided kid who is just trying to play a little prank on all of us. We all know that people cannot really be that mean/spiteful/racist.
I am sure down deep, within that pimply little face and eyes full of wonder that he is a good little kid who just needs the love of all around him (like Obama) to help him see the light and hopefully pick and stick with one name.
Buster, you are a disgusting individual.
Obama’s own words: “I sought out…. Marxist professors..”
The past 8 years have been nothing but hate from liberals and Democrats… please be willing to look in the mirror at how devisive Democrats and liberals have been towards our president. Hollywood and the news media have done nothing but run down President Bush everyday since January 20, 2001.
It has been a shame and disgrace. As a conservative American I will do everything in my power not to show that same disrespect for my president regardless of whether I agree with his politics or not.
How soon you libs forget your transgressions.
@Yori
Maybe but my mom loves me
[Hollywood and the news media have done nothing but run down President Bush everyday since January 20, 2001.]
By ‘run down’, I take it that you ‘mean’ that ‘Hollywood’ and the news media, have said or printed untruths and slander.
Care to provide examples?
EduCat: The past 8 years have been nothing but hate from liberals and Democrats… please be willing to look in the mirror at how devisive Democrats and liberals have been towards our president. Hollywood and the news media have done nothing but run down President Bush everyday since January 20, 2001.
The visceral hatred expressed in several posts in this forum has been a rather one-sided affair: from the right.
You are apparently confusing criticism on the issues and criticism of the president with heresy. An open democratic discourse has widely come to a stop during the harshly ideological Bush reign, with an administration which deemed itself above the need to engage in any actual debate.
But democracy is all about an open discourse about the issues and a real competition about the best way forwards. And Obama so far has shown the determination to rejoin that path.
You might just as well get used to it again.
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@Buster: “President Obama…kind of a nice ring to it.If he was running in Canada, he would win in a landslide”
But he won in a landslide in America. How about those apples?
PRESIDENT OBAMA. Better get used it it, Cons.
Well, I doubt that very many people will read this response ’cause it’s so late & this thread appears to have few visitors anymore. Sorry, but I had to actually work today; I don’t make $250K/year. On the other hand, the remainder of this so-called discussion pretty well makes my point.
@maczac
Censorship is certainly one of the chief characteristics of facism, see http://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/fasci14chars.html. However, the kind of censorship you’re talking about here is outright suppression. I’m not talking about outright censorship of Hen, or TruthHurts, or One More Thing. They can vent their spleens in any number of political blogs. But this is supposed to be a moderated forum, where MDN can pull any posts they feel are obscene or otherwise contrary to the objectives of the site. Said actions are not censorship (except possibly in the minds of those whose posts are removed). To those who think the posts should stay up so rational people can see the insanity of the posters, I respect your opinion, but disagree. The majority of posts to this article have not just been off topic, they have been hateful, infantile, disturbing, and extremely offensive. So no, I will not withdraw my request to have any of those posts removed.
As for growing a set, I can tell you that not only can I take the “extreme talk”, but I can dish it out when I’ve had enough. Since the Neo-Con Republicanazis have no respect for others, they have no right to expect respect, either. My name is on my posts; I have yet to see any real person claim the posts of One More Thing, TruthHurts, or Hen. It’s gotten to the point where good people have to stand their ground against them.
Democrat = Party of Hate
President Elect Obama seen trying to surrender to Iran…. Details to follow.
Obama voters lining up for their free gas and mortgage payments….. Working class to pay for it. Working class going on strike. Details to follow.
Had this election gone the other way there would have been liberal lawsuits up the yin yang, rioting in the streets, and worse. This presidency is going to be really bad for the US. Just wait.
After spending four hours at the VA today getting treatment on the legs I sacrificed for your freedoms, rights and liberties, I find it disheartening the lengths that Democrats have gone to, to steal this election. Their candidate can’t win it on his own, so at every level they have lied, cheated and stole to win this election. I will never vote for any Democrat again because to be part of this evil racist party makes you as bad as the ones running your party and doing these things. From hiring ACORN, to hiring the New Black Panther Party, to Obama lying about his birth, to registering people criminally, to voting multiple times, to keeping the military from having their votes count, to having voting info wrongly in booths, to voter intimidation, we see what hte criminal element of the Democratic party will do to ensure victory. The mainstream media has lost all credibility, too, by covering up for Obama and never asking him one tough question. If he is elected, I will laugh in the face of every Democrat that loses their jobs due to Obama’s socialist policies. I will no longer donate to help out places like Habitat for Humanity and other programs that go to lazy Dems. I will continue to drive my SUV while you people are scrambling after COngress re-enacts the no drill and gas goes back up to $4.
Veteran: Their candidate can’t win it on his own
He just did exactly that, with a huge margin far beyond any doubts of manipulation. That point is settled for good.
Veteran: The mainstream media has lost all credibility, too, by covering up for Obama and never asking him one tough question.
He has been thoroughly grilled by seasoned journalists of all stripes. The difference was just that he was actually capable of responding with topical and well-considered answers where others (of any party) usually just have a few recycled platitudes.
His apparent ease in dealing with the extensive and intense scrutiny he was subjected to has nothing to do with a lack of toughness in the questions but rather with his quite uncommon strength in dealing with them.
As a veteran you could do a whole lot worse than with him, and you probably do already. I wish you all the best and hope the VA will be improved both in funding and administration. Many veterans returning home into homelessness and/or being abandoned instead of treated when they need it as they are apparently doing now is a disgrace.
You may not respect Obama at this point, but you should at least afford him the benefit of your doubt. It would be the honourable thing to do.
I’m just a european observer, but sometimes an outside perspective can help seeing clearly.
Tonight your country has written another impressive chapter in history, as John McCain has graciously acknowledged. Maybe you can have some of his class rub off on you.
The world is cheering for the USA again. And that actually matters, even and especially regarding the impact on the US troops deployed abroad.
All the best!
President Elect Obama has appointed Larry Sinclaire as his Chief of Staff.
You can’t seriously believe that garbage you posted??? Everything you said is exactly the opposite of what really happened. There was extreme voter fraud. Acorn signed up so many fake registrants to vote and liberal judges let them get away with it. The military vote was tossed out when it was mailed in all over the place and Nancy Pelosi would not investigate. The media asked the guy next to nothing about his past radical associations. When the few that did ask him about them he flat out lied. There is so much more but unfortunately the US people believe all of the BS that they are fed from the main stream media. This guy is such a fraud. Time will show. It will be proven that he isn’t really a US citizen. He’ll probably get impeached. The US made a huge mistake with this guy. This guy will make Jimmy Carter look like Ronald Reagan.
The only people in the world cheering about this are the US enemies, Terrorists, Russia, Chavez, Iran, and the white towel waving wussy liberal loser European nations. Obama has zero back bone. Anyone who votes present on the vast majority of his Senate votes is not a leader. Biden is an idiot that always picks the wrong side of every argument. Biden gives nothing away to charity. Another idiot. Democrat controlled congress that along with Acorn caused the mortgage crisis. They are complete idiots too. Man is the US in trouble. The US can not run itself worried about what liberal losers in Europe think. Europe is being over run by Islam and is on it’s way down the tubes. Looks like the US is stupid enough to follow in its foot steps.
Cute paranoid rant, as far as that goes, but the evidence thus far does not bear it out.
The people who once had bizarre predictions about the “honourable”, “competent” and “bipartisan” Bush presidency seem to be the same ones who predict hell and destruction for the Obama presidency now.
Given their previous dismal performance in prediction, I don’t see much cause to worry about the wild claims made now.
Try to develop a bit more perspective, and stop being scared to death. That has been an extremely bad idea under Bush and it remains a bad idea under Obama.
As remarked above: Take John McCain’s concession speech as an example of class and grace in a disappointing situation. Maybe you can learn some things from him.
Good luck to you!
libs complain and harass republicans all the way through the last 8 years at every turn. they have been the divisive party and party of hate. now that they have gotten their way by lying, cheating, intimidating, and stealing this election they want everything to be nice and rosy for them with no challenges. no EFFING way. we will harass you libs constantly and blame you for everything that goes wrong in the universe. obama and many more libs will be proven frauds and be thrown out of office.
“Why of course the people don’t want war … But after all it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship … Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger.”
— Hermann Goering, Nazi leader, at the Nuremberg Trials after World War II
Neither a man nor a crowd nor a nation can be trusted to act humanely or to think sanely under the influence of a great fear.
– Bertrand Russell, philosopher, mathematician, author, Nobel laureate (1872-1970)
We cannot defend freedom abroad by deserting it at home.
– Edward R. Murrow, journalist (1908-1965)
If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy.
– James Madison, fourth US president (1751-1836)
Permanent good can never be the outcome of untruth and violence.
– Mahatma Gandhi (1869-1948)
Truth does not change according to our ability to stomach it.
-Flannery O’Connor, writer (1925-1964)
“There Ought to be Limits to Freedom!”
– George W. Bush, (1999-05-21)
A conservative is one who admires radicals centuries after they’re dead.
– Leo Rosten, author (1908-1997)
Here’s one for Bush/Cheney and their ilk.
What is morally wrong can never be advantageous, even when it enables you to make some gain that you believe to be to your advantage. The mere act of believing that some wrongful course of action constitutes an advantage is pernicious.
– Marcus Tullius Cicero, statesman, orator, writer (106-43 BCE)
People who want to share their religious views with you almost never want you to share yours with them.
– Dave Barry, author and columnist (1947- )
Force without wisdom falls of its own weight.
– Horace, poet and satirist (65-8 BCE)
Once upon a time a man whose ax was missing suspected his neighbour’s son. The boy walked like a thief, looked like a thief, and spoke like a thief. But the man found his ax while digging in the valley, and the next time he saw his neighbour’s son, the boy walked, looked and spoke like any other child.
– Lao-tzu, philosopher (6th century BCE)
Lower your voice and strengthen your argument.
– Lebanese proverb
NAFTA in jeopardy if Obama wins, Cellucci says
I wonder why the US hasn’t been attacked in almost 8 years???? Just wait we’ll be worshiping Islam before this is over. Worst president ever on deck. With the worst congress ever. Boy is the US in trouble. Ping – go crawl back under your rock.
welcome to the United Socialist States Of America! president Hussein will be the figurehead, with the real, inept governing will be by prime ministers {elosi and Reid. the propaganda will be handled by first disciple Biden, and the face of the new policies will be court jester Schumer! remember people, Hussein is only a figuehead, under strict congressional control as is every president. campaign promises can be easily broken and you have given the keys to the kingdom to the democrats. let’s just watch what happens, and don’t start whining about broken promises down the road. you’ve had plenty of warning!
I wonder why the US hasn’t been attacked in almost 8 years????
Because the party you support made it more convenient to kill Americans in the Middle East by the simple step of shipping over 100,000 troops to Iraq and Afghanistan.
If you don’t think that US citizens have been dying at the hands of terrorists/insurgents since 2001, you need to read this – assuming you have the guts.
Wouldn’t you rather have our military taking the fight to them instead of those countries being breading grounds for terrorists to multiply and sneak back into the US and nuke NYC and more?? No of course you wouldn’t. You’re a clueless lib. Just wait and see what your failed policies and ideas will do to the US. We are screwed.
I cannot believe all the clueless freaks that are coming out of the woodwork. idiots, the election is over.
Did yo not listen to McCain. When people in the crowd last night started to boo and his during his speak, he shut them up. he gave one helluva speech filled full of respect for Obama, and the American people.
I am a liberal and I was truly touched and my admiration for the man rose up an order of magnitude. He didn’t want to hear the paranoid bullshit or complete racism we are reading here from Veteran or Stevack or Coincidence above.
Not only do you guys disgust me, I am sure you would disgust McCain as well.
McCain didn’t want any violence to happen in his name that’s why he said that. Had the vote gone the other way Obama never would have made that speech. There would be Rodney King style riots, cries of racism, law suits, Obama wouldn’t have conceded, etc., etc., etc. Democratically controlled congress, the ones who have been running the country for the last 2 years and caused the financial meltdown, had a lower rating than Bush. And what do the brilliant voters do, vote more of them in. What idiots. Get ready for massive problems in the US with this clueless crew in charge. Canada will be screwed when NAFTA blows up in there face. Good luck Blister.
Wouldn’t you rather have our military taking the fight to them instead of those countries being breading grounds for terrorists to multiply and sneak back into the US and nuke NYC and more?? No of course you wouldn’t. You’re a clueless lib. Just wait and see what your failed policies and ideas will do to the US. We are screwed.
Actually, if you were worried about ‘breading grounds’ (sic) for terrorism, you’d acknowledge the culpability of the party that you supported creating those terrorists in the first place, firstly by treating Osama bin Laden as a ‘freedom fighter’ and secondly by explicitly supporting Saddam Hussein during the Iran/Iraq war.
I love the way Republicans always think that people will just assume that there was no history before today. There was. And it shows that the Republican Party has made one short-sighted foreign policy error after another that ultimately comes back to bite America in the ass normally after a gap of a decade or so.
As for where America should confront its enemies, I didn’t express any preference one way or the other because that isn’t what I was writing about. Of course, because you’re a Republican and not gifted with the ability to read nuance, you failed to spot this fact.
In actuality, I was highlighting the deception of saying that the US hadn’t been attacked since 9/11; a deception that devalues the lives of over 4,000 US servicemen and women in Iraq which was a war and is an occupation that is predicated on lies and politicised intelligence.
In effect, the party that you support took over 100,000 people and sent them to the Persian Gulf to be sacrificial lambs to the incompetence, intellectual dishonesty and moral bankruptcy of the Bush/Cheney administration.
A question: if Bush/Cheney were so concerned about terrorism in Iraq, why did they make the offer that Saddam Hussein could stay in power if he gave up his non-existent WMDs?
Answer: because a) there was no terror threat and they knew that and b) because there were no WMDs to surrender and they knew that as well.
Hussein is only a figuehead, under strict congressional control as is every president
So, if the President is at the mercy of Congress, Bill Clinton must have been acting under the direction of the 104-106th Congress as opposed to his own instincts.
Thanks for that: the next time you guys blame Slick Willie for something, we’ll be able to fire the blame right back at you.
libs complain and harass republicans all the way through the last 8 years
Yeah, those sneaky Democrats using the power of the Attorney-General’s office to pursue political vendettas and then firing AUSAs who didn’t co-operate.
Oh no, sorry – that was the Republicans.
at every turn. they have been the divisive party
Yeah, I spotted that: calling McCain a terrorist and a Muslim and Barack Obama having to take that microphone away from that woman at one of his rallies.
On no sorry – that was the Republicans
and party of hate
And I remember that guy shouting out something about killing McCain at one of Biden’s rallies.
Gosh darnit, my memory is getting so bad – it turns out that was that a Palin rally and someone wanting to kill the man who is now the President-Elect.
And that leggy blonde thing, whatsername, Coulter or something: the one who advocated killing a federal judge, presumably because he wanted to take her away her rights to use hair dye.
now that they have gotten their way by lying
Jeez, lying in a political campaign: that’s appalling. We should get someone like Karl Rove to look into that. The Karl Rove that learnt his craft under Donald Segretti, of “ratf****ing” letter-forging fame.
Interesting that Segretti was Orange County co-chair of McCain’s failed run in 2000.
Hmmm…
cheating
Cite the evidence.
intimidating
CITE THE EVIDENCE
and stealing this election
I may have asked for this before: but would you mind citing the evidence.
BTW, that’s real evidence – not something made up by some tinfoil-hat wearing wingnut like Rush “Illegal drugs are bad, unless they’re mine” Limbaugh or Elizabeth “I have nothing against blacks, I think every house should have one” Hasselback.
actually clinton’s attorney general did the exact same thing. where’s the outrage mthfkr?
Acorn is the evidence. Black Panthers. Throwing out the military vote and having Pelosi squash the investigation. Just wait tool boy, the evidence will come streaming in. I’m sure you feel there is nothing wrong with any of this because your boy won. If the results were opposite you would be claiming much worse with zero back up. You have no problem with Hussein Obama’s past relationships with terrorists (much more than he will admit) and Racist Wright, and the cocaine use???? WTF? Check out the NYT article on Clinton and Fannie and Freddie. It spells it all out you moron.
“It’s good to be king.” Quite observant of you. Most people barely comprehend the liberal-conservative spectrum, and ignore completely the authoritarian-libertarian gradient. Yes, with his Marxist beliefs, Obama is MUCH more authoritarian than many “liberal” Democrats understand, far more than the one we conservatives used to dread, Hillary. Expect more state control, expect more secrecy, message and information control, punishment of dissent…all the trappings that come with an egomaniacal, dictatorial executive than the heavily “marketed” persona we’ve been allowed to see. There will be no bipartisanship in his cabinet, staff, appointees, etc. The Clintonista house cleaning will seem like a voluntary exodus compared to this. Expect to rapidly see his masterful spin rhetoric dissolving your liberties, with pre-fabricated legal charades systematically appearing to pave the way. First, you will lose the 10th ammendment rights, then 9th, the 1st, the 2nd, the 4th, “the right to privacy” and so on. There will be a good reason for each, it will seem. Then you will find the Civilian National Security Force needs your home, and there goes the 3rd amendment….it won’t end. It’s your fault, actually. If you had stopped him in his tracks the first time he was called Messiah, The One, without rebuking it, it might have been different. He’s too far gone now. Remember the meek Obama of 2004, admittedly too inexperienced to run? Look what you’ve created.
OBAMA SUPPORTER WAVES COMMUNIST FLAG AT VICTORY CELEBRATION OUTSIDE WHITE HOUSE
http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=214233
A wise man once said, I can tell you the character of a man by the company he keeps.
Maybe we should also change that to
I can tell you the character of a man by the company he keeps and those that follow him.
The wisdom of youth is ignorance compared to the wisdom of experience and education.
All I can say is …What a twit!
The second American Civil War will not be blacks against whites, it will be Capitalism versus communism…..Freedom will always win! The cost? The blood of americans not on foriegn soil but on American soil.
Obama’s Civilian National Security Force, which Obama said will be as larger or larger than the US Military. Here’s the reference video.
I searched Obama’s website, his Homeland Security page, and there is no mention of any kind of ’security force’.
The first thing that comes to my mind is a Police State, the Gestapo or the SS. Scary stuff!
Can any of you Obama supporters explain to the rest of us what the Civilian National Security Force is all about?
obama and his radical character are on display by his wife, friend, associates and supporters
liberals have a real problem on their hands for the defense of the America hating radicals that they elected
obama, the partial prez, aint my prez !!!!!!!
Waow! Obama is President!
This prooves to the rest of the world that american is not that all crazy and dummy! USA can, now, gain back some respect from other countries, This was no more possible since such a silly guy like Bush was re-elected in spite of his guilty behaviour. After all, his provocative arrogance was the origin of the drama of September 11!
spoken like a true terrorist. the true obama will come out. he’s done a great job hiding it. the rest of the world can go to hell.
Reading the right-wing fanatics’ posts in here it’s no wonder the USA have declined through the past 8 years.
As for Obama: We’ll see. My hunch is that the sky is not going to fall after all.
MDN word: “reaction” — Indeed.
the true obama will come out. what is going to happen when all of his followers don’t get free gas and mortgage payments???? not to mention his racist, terrorist, and and corrupt close ally life long friends. there will be no reaching across the aisle from this group. it’s going to get very ugly.
Ping,
What about all of the ultra left wing, commie-socialist posts on this site? Disgusting!
Don’t forget that Obama sat there and listened to it….. for 20 Fu#king Years! This guy was fairly portrayed. He is a racist and a hater of and enemy to this country – Just like O-Bunghole. I just read in San Francisco Chronicle that the tax cut is $165,000 and under. You’ll see the truth come flowing in like a tsunami. Obama lied through his teeth to get you fulls to pull the lever, and now you’ll see how stupid you were. The middle east has already mentioned how weak they percieve he is for wanting to talk with Iran. You Bozos who voted for this guy are the worst kind of stupid.
I think it’s incredibly sad that Obama was elected. He does not represent the views of even a small portion of the United States but he had the skin color that the majority wanted for their next president. If he had been white he would have been laughed at. I believe he was elected ONLY because of his race. He is a token president at best.
Bush administration working to ensure smooth handover of power
The democrats did everything they could to trip up the transition. Remember removing all of the W’s from the government computers. Scum Bags!!!
bdriskell: I think it’s incredibly sad that Obama was elected. He does not represent the views of even a small portion of the United States but he had the skin color that the majority wanted for their next president. If he had been white he would have been laughed at. I believe he was elected ONLY because of his race. He is a token president at best.
According to the latest analyses, Obama has substantially gained across all voter segments, including elderly white people who might not be the most likely ones to vote for any guy just as long as he was black (or brown, as the case may be).
Every single one of many separate and very different voter segments would already have been enough to get him elected, all combined make up a substantial margin (according to the latest numbers I know about 7% of the popular vote).
All your shrieking won’t change the fact that a) Bush’s disastrous presidency and b) especially the radical Republicans as personified by Palin have alienated a large number of voters; People are sick and tired of exactly that shrill fanaticism. They want to have their country improve again for a change, and a substantial majority obviously see Obama as the man who can do exactly that.
We’ll see what his shortcomings will be, but the introduction of communism is almost certainly not on his agenda. You should really cool down and grow a spine, even if you may never reach the class of at least the last speech of John McCain.
MDN word “greater”: Indeed!
@ @almux
Spoken like a true ignorant (exactly that sort of who made most people of the world turn their back to America). Some, like you, would have even been able to vote for ideas worthy of the Middle Ages, and have a Palin for vice president! If this is not pathetic!
But finally, hope is allowed… at least half of americans proved they have some brains!
The dark Bush era is taking an end, but it will still leave deep wounds, within and without US borders, and this for quite a few years… But at least (if the neo-nazis and other evolution haters don’t succed killing the new President) America will not be abandoned all alone to its sad destiny.
Sorry if this seams harsh to some US citizens… but the truth is that the last 8 years of Bushery really killed your image!
There’s nothing radical about the republicans ahole. JFK was more conservative than todays repubs. You libs are so far gone to the left now it’s scary. The liberal teachers screw all the kids up and it takes them 20 years after to college to realize they’ve been brain washed by you idiots. Liberalism does not work. It leads to higher crime rates and more people dependent on hand outs. Exactly what liberal leaders want so they can get re-elected. Anyone with half a brain can figure it out. Go crawl back under your commie rock dirt ball.
@pingpong: There’s nothing radical about the republicans ahole.
I see. You’ve just disproved yourself in that sentence alone.
You might also want to learn to read, since I have referred to a certain segment of the republican scene.
Palin and her shrill low-brow attacks have obviously helped keep the radicals on the right wing of the GOP in line (as if they would have had anywhere else to go!), but she has at the same time driven away scores of moderates who wouldn’t be seen dead with such a hapless and vicious representative of the right wing.
As it turns out, there are many more moderates than shrieking extremists, so on the bottom line Palin and her ilk were a net negative for the GOP.
Talk about shooting your own feet off…!
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MDN word: “problem”:
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I don’t give a rats ass what you referred to. Liberalism doesn’t work. Look at one of the previous posts about how well liberalism has worked in various areas of the US. It hasn’t. It sucks and creates more lazy, dependent, idiots and more corrupt politicians that could care less about the people and only care about the politician being elected over and over again on promises of giving more free crap away. Keep growing the government and having them tell you what to do in every aspect of your life. That is not the American way and not the principals this country was founded on. I’m sure you wan the US to go down the tube so go to hell you little commie troll. There is endless opportunity in the US for people to better themselves and instead liberalism pushes reliance on the government for everything. The last thing we need is more government. We need personal accountability, a strong military, term limits of 8 years on congressmen.
Reality does not tend to agree with you, but that’s probably why you hate her so much…!
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@@Buster
Blister…..I like that. I just wanted to say NAFTA blowing up may be the best thing to happen to Canada. We get raped and pillaged by the US on most things that are not in their favour.
We have water and oil….in theory we can strangle the USA by the nuts if we wanted to….so remember play nice with us because unlike you, we are not filled so full of hate for each other.
Most people think Canadians are the nicest in the world and the world does agree that we are the number 1, most desirable place to live in the world.
We got to be doing something right! Please feel free to toss out another low class pathetic response.
Islamists Post Internet Video Urging Obama to Abandon War on Terror
Here we go. Obama’s on his way to surrendering.
Canada is great if you like commies.
@White lag
Do you have many other such narrow minded stuff in your mind? Pour thing! ALL religions are just fake, period.
http://www.newnation.org/NNN-Black-on-White.html
@Scary Truth
Too easy to pull people down and then accuse them to get agressiv of so much frustration!
White men have robed and raped largely enough the past centuries…
Yeah right, everything is the white man and George Bush’s fault. Up yours dude.
@ @almux
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At least, sure 11th sept woudn’t have happened if NO Bush around…
‘My friends, we live in the greatest nation in the history of the world.
I hope you’ll join with me as we try to change it.
— Barrack Obama
@almux, 9/11 had nothing to do with Bush and everything to do with democrats letting their guard down.
Obama will always use the race card — he knows everyone is afraid of race riots if his legitimacy is challenged — he is not a citizen and even his wife slipped and said he had been adopted by Lolo Soetero and tied it to a comment about that not being a reason for questioning his patriotism. Just being a US citizen does not make you eligible to be president. What is at stake here is whether we uphold the laws as spelled out in our Constitution or we abandon its governing principles and embrace the anarchy espoused by Bill Ayers — remember what Karl Marz said, “The bigger the lie, the more people believe