Bloomberg News’ Mark Gurman is predicting a new iMac Pro powered by the M2 Pro and M2 Max chips and a new Mac Pro powered by the M2 Ultra and M2 Extreme (coming eventually, by the end of 2023:
Mark Gurman for Bloomberg News:
I still strongly believe a larger iMac with Apple’s pro chips is in development — but I don’t think it, nor the next Mac Pro, are coming anytime soon.
The company’s statement is still technically true: The Mac Pro will be the last new Mac to get Apple Silicon. That’s because the iMac Pro doesn’t actually exist as a product. How can Apple update something that isn’t available? The Intel 27-inch iMac was just discontinued, and the previous iMac Pro was killed off a year ago.
Here are my expectations for Apple’s next slate of chips:
• M2: eight CPU cores and nine or 10 graphics cores
• M2 Pro: 12 CPU cores and 16 graphics cores
• M2 Max: 12 CPU cores and 32 graphics cores
• M2 Ultra: 24 CPU cores and 48 or 64 graphics cores
• M2 Extreme: 48 CPU cores and 96 or 128 graphics coresHere’s what I believe Apple’s Mac lineup will ultimately look like upon the completion of the M2 transition at the end of 2023.
Pro:
• MacBook Pro (14 inch and 16 inch) with an M2 Pro and M2 Max
• iMac Pro with an M2 Pro and M2 Max
• Mac Studio with an M2 Max and M2 Ultra
• Mac Pro with an M2 Ultra and M2 Extreme
• Apple Pro Display 7KConsumer:
• MacBook Air with an M2
• MacBook Pro (13 inch) with an M2
• Mac mini with an M2 and an M2 Pro version to replace the Intel model
• iMac with an M2
• Apple Studio Display
MacDailyNews Take: This “M2 Extreme” or “double M2 Ultra” will destroy benchmarks a performance per watt as we know it.
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And a 30 to 32 inch Studio Display, please! 27 inches doesn’t cut it for some customers (and neither does 5 grand for the Pro Display).
https://www.apple.com/pro-display-xdr/ is all you’re likely to get from Apple. Since 2010 the company has been all about monopoly app stores and subscriptions, not so much about price competitive Macs.
Found the troll. Haven’t been paying attention much lately have we?
What are you on about? It’s amazing how you, a notorious handle-changing namecaller, have the gall to accuse others of trolling when you never have anything to contribute to the conversation. Tired of chasing the last poster and decided to bully me instead? What are you, twelve?
What I stated above is absolutely accurate. The last 30″ Cinema Display that Apple sold was discontinued in 2010. It cost $3300 in the USA. As soon as Cook took charge, Apple sadly abandoned all displays and Airport networking products. iOS derivatives were clearly his priority. Apple under Cook also released many subscription services. With basically unrestricted market power, Cook continues to restrict 3rd party software developers to use only Apple distribution services on the iOS platforms, despite the fact that the secure Mac platform imposes no such restrictions. That is precisely how Apple generates its outsized revenue from a company that sells only about 4 dozen significant hardware products. Facts.
In 2019, after constant requests from the disenfranchised Mac community, Apple finally delivered a truly Pro computer, with a matching XLR display at very much pro prices. It’s aimed at people who carry tens of thousands of dollars worth of cameras and lenses every day. Apple is not going to suddenly drop the price on it, that’s not how they operate.
In 2022, Apple surprised everyone by releasing the Studio display. But the strategy become obvious quickly: the 27″ iMac is gone. This is the best news I’ve seen on the Mac front in a while, though people like you apparently aren’t here to learn about Macs.
There is absolutely nothing to suggest Apple will ever deliver a consumer-grade (or consumer priced) 30-32″ display. If you know otherwise, please share. If you’re just here to call people names, then you and Hal and all your alternate aliases need to get a room for yourselves.
1) Humdrum is the only name I use here, with the occasional addition for fun. Not sure who Hal is but it’s not me. The name is an old tradition, long story, perhaps I’ll tell it sometime.
2) The only people I call names and troll are the ridiculous right wing nut jobs who deserve every bit of scorn we can send at them. And no, I’m not a left wing fool either, I’m centre left and am happy to work with and have discussions with people on the centre right, that’s how things get done.
3) I was responding to your comment “Since 2010 the company has been all about monopoly app stores and subscriptions, not so much about price competitive Macs.”. The current M1 machines, particularly the Macbook Air, are very competitive and more than most people need in a machine. I own one, it’s great. But I also own a M1Max 14 inch MBPro and have ordered a Studio Display to use with it to replace the 5K iMac which has been my workhorse for years. In hindsight I should have waited as I think the Mac Studio would have worked great but, well, it wasn’t available at the time.
I don’t see Apple producing a wide range of displays because the market is already saturated. Better to have a couple of higher margin products I would think?
I do agree that in recent years Apple’s offerings were, well, rather humdrum at best and in the era of the butterfly keyboard I wasn’t able to recommend Macbooks to friends who might want to switch. But now I can.
I personally think the switch to Apple Silicon, despite my initial misgivings has brought about a true renaissance at Apple and I’m SO happy that the obsession with thinness, at least with the Macbook Pro, seems to be over.
That said, I would LOVE a tiny new 12 inch Macbook with an M series chip!
Humdërp MoonBS tries to throw us off the scent, but everyone knows you’re full of BigCitizenXAppleBS.
@SpecialOperation:
Just what exactly is “BigCitizenXAppleBS.”?
M1 Pro, Max, Extreme, Ultra, Pro Max, M2 Pro Ultra, Pro Extreme, WTF Apple. This kind of meaningless gibberish is what drove LG out of the phone space.
I guess I’m waiting for the MacBook Pro M2 Extreme.
I tend to agree. What would be a better naming structure do you think? Or should there be better names and fewer variants?
Think I’ll wait for the M3 Ultimate
iMac Pro with Max chip makes no sense, would definitely undercut the new Studio. An iMac Pro with the Pro chips would actually fill a gap between the current iMac and the Studio. The other possibility would be a 27″ with M2 12 core cpu/gpu not designated as a ‘Pro’. Apple’s not going to put out a 27″ display with an internal computer at 1999. Even a binned Pro chip in that new display ain’t gonna be cheap…
I’d still rule it out since the Apple event pointed out only one more Mac to go, specifically the ‘Mac Pro’.
What Apple says, doesn’t say, and what it does, are all different things.
There may be a bigger iMac with option for M-chip Pro (even Max), but it won’t be called iMac “Pro”; it’ll just be iMac with whatever-inch screen. Apple wants iMac to be the ultimate consumer all-in-one desktop. Going forward, iMac won’t target “pro” customers. Apple is clearly pointing them to the more versatile Mac Studio and eventually (new) Mac Pro.
I’m actually really happy with the Mac Studio and separate display but think you are correct. iMac will stay consumer and the Studio line will target professionals.