Top podcaster Joe Rogan was offered $100 million on Monday by video sharing platform Rumble. Chris Pavlovski, the CEO of the Canadian video sharing platform Rumble, tried to entice Rogan to jump ship in a letter posted to the company’s Twitter account.
Hey @joerogan, we are ready to fight alongside you. See the note from our CEO @chrispavlovski… pic.twitter.com/G7ahfNNjtP
— Rumble 🏴☠️ (@rumblevideo) February 7, 2022
James Hibberd for The Hollywood Reporter:
“How about you bring all your shows to Rumble, both new and old, with no censorship, for $100 million bucks over four years?” [Pavlovski] wrote. “This is our chance to save the world. And yes, this is totally legit … We stand with you, your guests and your legion of fans in desire for real conversation.”
Rumble was launched in 2013 and is billed as an alternative to YouTube and “big tech.” It counts among its personalities Dan Bongino, Dinesh D’Souza and Steve Bannon. Last month, Rumble made headlines by striking a deal with Truth Social, the social media app being launched by former President Donald Trump.
[See also: President Trump’s Truth Social free speech app needs Apple and Google to survive]
[Rogan’s] Spotify deal, which he signed in 2020, is reportedly worth more than $100 million.
Spotify CEO Daniel Ek also declared over the weekend that the streamer is sticking by the embattled podcaster. “I want to make one point very clear — I do not believe that silencing Joe is the answer,” Ek wrote in an email to Spotify staff.
MacDailyNews Take: As George Washington said, “If freedom of speech is taken away, then dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter.”
The price of freedom may be high, but never so costly as the loss of freedom. — Ronald Reagan
Censorship reflects a society’s lack of confidence in itself. It is a hallmark of an authoritarian regime. – Potter Stewart
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The CEO of Spotify also issued a statement saying “silencing Joe Rogan is not the answer” implying he has the power to silence Joe Rogan, but chooses not to do so. The CEO of Spotify obviously has no such power, it’s Joe Rogan with the power.
Shutting the world down for a virus that isn’t a threat to the vast majority of people is mass insanity.
Stop electing leftist globalist establishment authoritarians.
@MDN: Being allowed freedom of speech is one thing, but being allowed to spread misinformation under the guise of free speech is something completely different.
“Misinformation” is protected by free speech. That’s the point of having “free” speech, so views that are seen as unpopular or in the minority can be heard and scrutinized. If it’s not true, why does it need to be censored? If COVID has shown anything, the difference between conspiracies (“misinformation”) and TRUTH is often about six months to a year.
Exactly
Only in this case, misinformation can kill – on a large scale.
Too many Americans have been hypnotized by fear of COVID-19, creating a society gripped by mass formation psychosis
It was a bad flu that’s now morphed into a bad cold. And some of you have irrationally decided to throw away your freedom and large aspects of your lives over it.
Read:
Unmasked: The Global Failure of COVID Mask Mandates by Ian Miller
A Plague Upon Our House: My Fight at the Trump White House to Stop COVID from Destroying America by Dr. Scott Atlas
Speaking of TRUTH, I wonder how long that one lasts… didn’t take long tor Parler to get taken down for violating the rules of the app stores…
Misinformation” is protected by free speech.”
Not on mt property. I can kick you out.
Dantheman talks about “misinformation” while he cannot state how many genders there are, follows the party that has stated human life on earth will end in ten years, for the past 50 years. Dan’s party talks about “racism” and “hate” while his party, the Democrat Party, was born to defend slavery, fought the Civil War to keep slavery, after losing it created Jim Crown “separate and unequal” apartheid, and now runs all the cities/urban plantations where black people are kept in conditions worse than pre Civil War slaves with some food scraps, condoms, drugs and a steady diet of anger from the Democrat Plantation managers. Every single thing the Democrat Party does is based on lies repeated over and over and over, and it has the audacity to talk about “misinformation”. Dan doesn’t even know what the meaning of “is” is. Democrat, go to hell. We are simply going to have to take you down since you are incapable of operating in a systems of freedom and laws equally enforced. So, you have to go.
As usual, a very tolerant and inclusive comment from Kent. NOT
So your solution is not only to censor and silence Democrats, but to get rid of them entirely.
Are you capable of seeing the irony?
Silence you. I love it when you talk. You turn off anyone with a brain. No, we are going to end you because you kill people. And you are evil. And the world will be a better place.
Kent, you are brain dead.
“We” are going to end…who’s “We”. You and the rest of your dumbfuck conservative hooligan army?
Sorry, I forgot…you are a god-fearing righteous person, one who who threatens people and wants to exterminate “others”. Hope you roast in a hell of your own making.
skellum, A polite reply would be “You are not very smart.”
I prefer the more direct, honest and factual approach: “You are idiot and too stupid to learn.”
Kathy, please see my post further down on this page.
I’m done being polite here.
You can’t read and don’t comprehend what Kent wrote. He never said exterminate anyone, you did. Also what is interesting, AS ALWAYS, when Leftists cannote refute, argue or state facts — they daw back into a cocoon of DENIAL.
Then, the ad hominen attacks come rolling in a sure sign you LOST the argument. Congrats you did not dissapoint, you and the rest of the brainless Left do it everytime…
GoeB, please explain how you interpret Kent’s statement:
“We are simply going to have to take you down since you are incapable of operating in a systems of freedom and laws equally enforced. So, you have to go.”
While I agree that he doesn’t say “exterminate,” and I don’t think he really means it, his wording implies an action denying a large group of people he disagrees with the right to participate in society. Maybe he means the removal of the Democrats as a legal political party.
Doesn’t really matter. His argument boils down to: They’re bad, they lie, they shouldn’t get to have a say. And that sounds an awful lot like censorship. It sounds like he’d be in favour of “canceling” the Democratic Party.
“No, we are going to end you because you kill people. And you are evil. And the world will be a better place.”
Yeah, not sure who Kent is, but this quote seems to be a lot more obvious in its intent. “End[ing]” a person is pretty clear. Soooo, maybe he did intent to “exterminate” after all.
Maybe we can start debating these facts with you explaining what Kent really meant by them. I mean, what was written here on the page are “facts” and the case that they call for at least censorship, and at most imprisonment (or execution) is pretty strong. I would like you to “refute” them instead of falling back on denial.
As far as Kent’s accusations about the Democratic Party, he also has some claims to back up. Has the Party itself ever declared that human life will end in 10 years? Or just some people in the party? Are “black people” really kept in conditions today that are worse than being a pre-civil war slave? Sure, there is no denying that the Democratic Party was the party of slavery in the Civil war, and even the party of Woodrow Wilson – a president that reportedly courted black voters to get elected, then implemented systems of segregation. But political affiliation mattered less in the passing of the Civil Rights Act in 1964, with the split based more on the geographical “north” vs “south” politicians. So maybe Kent is trying to make a subject that has a lot of history and nuance overly simple so he doesn’t have to support his claims or justify his extreme views.
Just a thought.
One of the best comebacks I have ever seen in on the years I’ve followed MDN. Good God , touché.
Big words for someone behind a keyboard
Tiny words from a small mind, Dan. That is all you’ve got.
‘Being “allowed” freedom of speech’.
‘Misinformation under the guise of free speech’
I’d ask who gets to determine who is “allowed” and who determines what is “misinformation” but your post entirely answers what someone like you would think of ‘who gets to determine’ these things.
It’s allowed the minute you’re paid for it by the company paying, but if not then I guess feel free to say whatever you want whether true or not…
That’s easy who gets to determine who is “allowed”.
Any conservative point of view is censored or cancelled, exactly what the Left is DOING NOW mounting a loud campaign aginst Joe Rogan. Do you have your head in the sand?
On the flip side of that coin, any far out Leftist opinions without science or facts are allowed to flourish, grow and spewed across the majority of the Leftist biased media.
Hello???…
Throwing mud (“misinformation”) w/o definition/actuality…nice.
Put the big pants on dan and make a point.
You mean all the misinformation coming from flip flop lying Fauci and the Biden administration. Get your facts straight…
dantheman827, most of the major MSM networks have spread mis and disinformation about Trump since he got elected.
I’ve been shocked at how reliable and easily Rumble works in embedded articles. YouTube is such a crap shoot sometimes. Ugh… For a young platform, it’s impressive. I know it probably will be deemed a “Conservative Right” platform, but it’s not. It’s just where many of those types are fleeing as other platforms don’t want them to express their political opinions. It’s a much more free platform than YouTube that’s for sure, and if you are a libertarian or classic liberal the likes of Bill Maher or the like, Rumble is a fresh place to live.
I’ve noticed it too. They are technologically super impressive. Their videos play so smooth, and the interstitial commercials come on and go out way smoother than YouTube. What makes it even more impressive is they have been growing and scaling so fast, you would expect them to have growing/technical pains, but right now, they work smoother than YouTube. Totally amazing for such a young small company.
I love making lists of all the things I’ll never have any reason to listen to…..
Shame that MacDailyNews, with its comments and quotes at the end, is effectively condoning this sort of misinformation under the guise of free speech, so I’m gonna have to cancel my monthly donation to MDN. Soz.
Free speech and free market in action.
Be Sad no more…find what fulfills/satisfies.
Sad, MDN has the right to state it’s opinion and you have the right to remain stupid. But, while you have that right, please stop voting and breeding.
Dear Sad,
Cry me an f-ing river. Take a long walk off of a short pier. It’ll be great to not have to skip over the freedom hating screeds from you “liberal” fools. Buh-bye.
How is any of this Mac or Apple related?
Try to keep up, okay?
MacDailyNews.com: Joe Rogan’s podcast will become a Spotify exclusive – May 19, 2020
It’s related b/c Apple was once a Free Speech vanguard, but we are seeing in real time the dissolution of the ideal.
You have the opportunity to go to the next article, but you prefer to opine on something (supposedly) unrelated to the site you visit. First, that’s interesting.
2nd you’ve read “Apple’s needed” per delivering the content/message via socials? Apple isn’t needed because they have the “pipes” to deliver, but they are in the position to determine–to choose to permit/to enable/to facilitate the transmission, per their network tools.
Whose idea of “misinformation” should prevail? Who decides that? Snopes?
Who decides? is the obvious and huge problem with trying to limit free speech by labeling anything someone doesn’t;t agree with as disinformation. There are a fair number of posters here and elsewhere on the internet that fit that category. They should never be allowed anywhere near ‘deciding what is disinformation’ because what is true or not true has nothing whatsoever to do with how they operate.
Your post is a little unclear, but I get the sense you want to limit some from “deciding.”
If true, you understand you’ve put yourself in the vaulted position of “deciding” with your statement?
Was the indi that wasn’t “allowed anywhere near” the decision deficient as a human? Did you determine this too?
If my presumptions are on target, I’ll bet a thousand dollars, you lean left. There’s something about the left that–inherent, or not–that deems themselves more equipped to make such a decision…to decide for others and their “wellbeing.” I regularly wonder, “where does this propensity come from…from where did this “right” to decide for others originate?
Maybe we should have areas of the country that are designated, “deciders” and “decision-supporters?”
Free speech means the government may not stop you from speaking. It does not mean that the free market cannot react to something stupid or offensive (hi Whoopi!).Bottom line, I bet both Joe Rogan and Neil Young have had their downloads spiked by this “controversy”.
Leftwingers always falsely claim to be advocates of free speech, and yet they always figure out intellectually dishonest excuses to censor people who don’t share their world view, which is degenerate, reprobate, destructive, and unnatural. With Lefties it’s always free speech for everyone that agrees with them. What a sorry lot.
Free speech is protected from government regulation, not private. A company can set any standards it prefers. I wonder if the same folks so concerned about Rogen are rallying to the defense of the teachers who draw upon Critical Race Theory?
This is not an issue regarding the role of U.S. Constitution in the matter, but about the IDEA of Free Speech being an intellectually healthy one, as opposed to a monolith of Leftwing GroupThink.
As for teachers and CRT, they’re not merely expressing themselves, they’re shoveling that shit inside the minds of children who do not belong to them, and it’s all being funded by taxpayers. So if you’re a taxpayer and a parent, you have a major say in the matter. Schools do not exist to serve teachers.
You were on the right track … until you went partisan.
Now if one wants to point fingers at “monolith” GroupThink, that is one of the known cornerstones of fascism, which is a huge national security risk to democracies.
Now on the topic of CRT, setting aside how its become a propaganda tool, the history of the US is rife with racism & bigotry, so it shouldn’t be any surprise racism & bigotry has also become embedded within its institutions & laws. Any debate on this observation at this point?
BTW, note that we’re not debating how much R&B has affected people, but simply that its not zero.
From this, CRT specifically recognizes R&B as having the potential for constitutional violations, as per “equality under the law”, and it examines analytical methods which can identify specific instances thereof.
That’s it.
CRT is the science of studying this data: it doesn’t advocate any changes in the public policies it may reveal, for that’s someone else’s job to do, namely the public discourse.
Now if you believe that your children are too young and should be sheltered from learning about this less-than-wonderful underbelly of the US, the simple reality is that they already are sheltered from it.
That’s because CRT is first taught at the Post-Graduate College post-graduate level, and as such, its perspective students already have a Bachelor’s Degree and are of majority age.
FYI, being of majority age, those students have the legal right to decide for themselves: their parents no longer have the legal right to censor them.
TL;DR: if you believe that CRT is being taught in public K-12 schools, you’ve been lied to.
I don’t know how to break this to you, but I don’t listen to anything Leftwing scum like you ever slings in my direction. You all are degenerate, hell-bound lying fools—there is nothing you sorry people do not lie about—and if I had my way everyone of you would be deported to the any 3rd World sewer not on the American continent.
Sinead O’Connor, Colin Kaepernick and the Dixie Chicks…
… were all cancelled and had their careers wiped out by the Rightwing Outrage Machine.
I don’t see a lot of left-wing book burning, either. But right-wing and evangelicals? Yeah, they burn books. And ban them from public libraries, and force schools to limit what’s taught in their classrooms.
But it’s the left that are, and I quote, “degenerate, hell-bound lying fools”?
Ok, whatever, Karen.
But your OK with the Leftwing trying to cancel to Joe Rogan starting with Niel Young, the View, and all the usual Left suspects including YOU. Yes, you Leftists are masters of HYPOCRISY…
First you ban books,
then you burn books,
then you burn people.
~ Alsep Bahar Moridamus
GoeB,
Newsflash! Neil Young boosts his media presence by making a dramatic exit from a streaming service that doesn’t pay him that much, thereby boosting his profits on other streaming platforms. The podcaster that was the target of his drama is now getting offers up to $100million over 4 years, and is obviously in NO DANGER of getting canceled.
Flashback! Book publisher, under absolutely no pressure from anyone, decides to stop printing some old books that aren’t selling well and makes a big announcement explaining their reasons. Some news stations report the news A LOT, causing sales of the author’s other books skyrocket in sales.
In short: people are making way too big a deal out of this. Who cares what Neil Young thinks anyway? Who cares what Spotify does? They have a business to run, and so does Joe.
The problem with CRT is it advocates racism today to compensate for racism of the past. This is devoid logic or rationality…IF one advocates fairness for all and personal responsibility. If you want to talk about racial problems, let’s find a solution that takes a step forward not two back— like CRT.
It is parallel with the “Equity” trap. Both, in action, require one subset to be harnessed with some sort of limitation to make it more equitable for the other subset. In the end, excellence is slowed and achievement compromised for one/some—all for those w/less innate ability, motivation or ambition. It’s easy to reply, those on the “right side” of the tracks, have more tools to find success. Yes, we are not all the same…to imagine this can be otherwise is dreamy irrationality. Also, how are we to attribute success to any one starting with “deficiencies”? Are they freaks of nature, or complete anomalies? One can only presume, “yes” when observing a liberal’s ideas per a successful black person. To attribute self-sacrifice and motivation to their success (or anyone’s), would wreak the liberal narrative that embraces CRT or the plethora of programs to “right” the effects of racism.
Efforts to make it “more fair” for one, ALWAYS means it will be less fair for another.
Pretty sure that studying racism — which is all CRT really is — is not the SAME as racism.
Agreed, a big problem is figuring out what is the “least bad” form of remedy.
But that isn’t CRT, but an outflow consequence of CRT.
CRT is merely being open to the consideration of inequities and learning structures for systematic research and studying of thereof.
As such, it isn’t CRT that’s “bad” but that it reveals things which we’re forced to admit
that do not follow our principles of equal opportunity and which shouldn’t happen.
That’s what makes us uncomfortable…particularly when we recognize that that knowledge can then be a force for change which we are uncomfortable making.
In a nutshell, the CRT pushback is just a lame “Shoot the Messenger” attempt.
Motivationally, the opposition is centered from those who have been beneficiaries of preferential systems: simply put, they want the status quo maintained and without he discomfort of it being questioned.
And this need not even be ‘harmful’ affirmative action: there’s even opposition to a perfectly level playing field (because that’s a removal of an entitlement).
FWIW, regarding the slowing of excellence and achievement, one need look no further than inheritors of vast fortunes to see the fallacy in this: the 3rd generation of wealth is often full of underperformers, despite having been born with every possible advantage.
Ah, so a privately owned restaurant can decide not to serve homosexual or Democrats, but I repeat myself.
A privately owned restaurant MAY NOT decide to not serve homosexuals (or people of color or people not born in the USA) because of 14th Amendment derived laws regarding protected classes and public accommodations.
A privately owned restaurant MAY decide not to serve Democrats (or, because that’s a two-way street, Republicans: Hi Sarah Sanders Huckabee!) because political affiliation is not a protected class.
Then a large public corporation cannot silence someone simply because they don’t like their options. Same logic.
Kent, your logic, as usual, is flawed. Spotify can’t stop Joe Rogan from standing on a street corner and saying whatever he wants to say. But they are certainly allowed to decide whether or not to pay him for being on their service, or allowing him to remain on their service.
Also, while a public business is no longer allowed to ban, say, all black customers, they can certainly ask a specific black customer to leave for any number of reasons (No Shirt, No Shoes, No Service; No Mask; etc.)
correct. this isn’t censorship. it’s a private business that can do what it wants. it will suffer the consequences if the consumers don’t like it. thats free market.
When did this blog become political? Seriously…
I remember when the only thing you’d find were apple related posts, not something vaguely related because it’s some political controversy
The Orange Imbecile seemed to empower the dumb and disgruntled, who now spout their vitriol at any given opportunity, like on these forums.
Intelligent people tend to be polite and refrain from doing so, but I believe the time has come to answer back and hold a mirror to the stupidity and hatred. Just read Kent’s posts above — he wants to kill off anyone who is not a like-minded (narrow-minded) conservative. Allowing him and his ilk to mouth off without reproach simply feeds his feelings of entitlement.
Sadly, it seems that the USA has descended into being a polarized country, with no hope of return.
It’s time to push back.
^^^^
THIS!
How do you anger a liberal? Tell them a lie.
How do you anger a conservative? Tell them the truth.
How do you anger a Tr*mpublican? Ignore them.
~ Alsep Bahar Moridamus