Waterproof? iPhone 11 and 11 Pro seem able withstand a lot more water than Apple says they can

iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max feature the toughest glass ever in a smartphone and are rated IP68 for water resistance up to 4 meters for up to 30 minutes, and are protected against everyday spills including coffee and soda.
Apple’s current generation iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max feature the toughest glass ever in a smartphone and are rated IP68 for water resistance up to 4 meters for up to 30 minutes, and are protected against everyday spills including coffee and soda.

Taking Apple’s iPhone 11 and iPhone 11 Pro to extremes with an underwater drone.

Lexy Savvides for CNET:

The iPhone 11 and 11 Pro aren’t fully waterproof, but are water resistant enough to survive a splash of coffee or get dunked in the pool. But how much water can these phones really take? According to Apple, the iPhone 11 is rated IP68, which means it’s water resistant in up to 6.5 feet (2 meters) of water for 30 minutes. The more expensive iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max are also IP68 but can go deeper: 13 feet for 30 minutes. Outside of the official ratings, we wanted to see how deep we could take these phones.

Teaming up with Sofar Ocean Technologies (formerly known as OpenROV), we mounted a brand-new iPhone 11 and 11 Pro on its underwater drone, Trident. It can reach depths up to 328 feet and can be controlled from your phone. We sent the Trident deep down into Monterey Bay in California on a chilly fall day to see what would happen to the iPhones.

Taking the boat out into open water we plunged the Trident down 39 feet to the sea floor… After waiting the full 30 minutes (and witnessing some sea lions swim by), we brought the drone back up to see if the phones survived this final swim. To our surprise, the phones were both completely fine…

MacDailyNews Take: Obviously, this is extreme and not covered under Apple’s stated water resistance limits for the iPhones. Do not try this at home without being ready and willing to lose your iPhone(s). That said, it’s totally like Apple, as with battery life, to underpromise and overdeliver!

32 Comments

  1. Apple is doing a terrific job this year in so many ways. There’s no way it should be considered a doomed company. The YouTube community has had so many positive things to say about Apple’s latest products, so I expect Apple’s good fortune to continue next year.

    1. What is this “doomed” obsessive defense? Honestly, the only people I ever hear saying the words Apple and doomed together are Apple fans. It’s like a persecution complex.

      Anyway… today is indeed Christmas, so Merry Christmas to all.

      1. The “doomed” thing comes from people who pine for the days of the rainbow colored Apple Logo, HyperCard and AppleWorks – the rest are low life financial types attempting to push the stock lower for personal gain or Microsoft hard core types frustrated that the world doesn’t get it that the Surface is a gift to the world from God.

        Like mosquitos, these types will always be coming out of the woodwork at times to make ugly for those of us enjoying these great days.

        Happy New Apple Year! – Apple Rocks and we do with and because of them!

  2. I don’t understand the “for 30 minutes” constraint… What’s happening during those 30 minutes underwater that slowly makes iPhone lose its water resistance? 🤔 So, if I get out of the water for 10 minutes, does water resistance “reset”? 😜 Like on Star Trek, “Shields down to 20%!” 😱 Maybe Siri needs to warn, “Alert, water resistance expires in 5 minutes! (OK) / (Ignore)” 😏

      1. At a constant depth (say 2 meters), pressure remains constant over time. iPhone is experiencing same pressure at minute 1 as minute 30 😏 So, unless something is slowly failing in the iPhone under the same pressure… LOL

          1. So YES, something IS slowly failing in the iPhone under the same pressure (as I said above) 🙃 OR, that state 30-minute limit is intended to be more of Apple’s warning ⚠️ to not be too crazy with water, instead of an actual precise limitation.

    1. Gaskets are u dear strain immediately when under pressure. Over time, they move a bit. At some point they give way. Permanent gaskets are much thicker, and are of different materials. In addition, the design of products intended to be under pressure for some time are designed differently, with the gasketed areas built to a stronger standard so as to resist the bending pressure. That bending pressure loosens the seal around the gasket, and allows infiltration to occur.

    2. There is no practical way for manufacturers, at this time, to put pressure sensors and timed immersion sensors into phones, watches, and other small devices. The best that can be done is a sensor that detects moisture, which these devices do have.

      No manufacturer, including these that make driving watches, warrantee against water infiltration.

      The reason is simply because they have no way to know if the device was within the supported standard stated, or outside of it. If someone dropped their phone into 30 feet of water, and couldn’t retrieve it for a day, do you really think they would tell Apple that? We all know they wouldn’t.

  3. And for all of us who left the dark ages and long ago adopted the metric system this means almost exactly 100 meters (as I suspect the test used and here been converted to foot).

    1. The metric system is arbitrary, not practical. It was devised by elitist academics and forced onto people who actually need to use practical units of measure on a daily basis for their livelihood 🙂

      1. To end a mess of measure units. You have for ex US and imperial units of liquid volume, different weights of tons and on and on. The metric system is superior, every unit divisable by ten. But certainly a unit of measure will always be arbitrary as invented by humans.

        1. Units of measure like inch, foot, ounce, tablespoon, etc. evolved over time through actual use, to be practical in actual use. It’s the OPPOSITE of arbitrary.

          In contrast, a meter was probably intentionally defined to be close to a yard (a practical unit of measure), but other sub-units based on meter are arbitrary. Decimeter is useless, and centimeter is used BUT not as practical (in everyday use) as inch. And ”divisibility by 10” is not practical compared to 12, because 12 can be divided evenly by 1-2-3-4-6-12, unlike 10 (just 1-2-5-10). If we had 6 fingers per hand, our numbering system would be base-12 (more flexible). Nothing inherently better about base-10.

          Consider how angles are measured, even in metric world. 360 degrees. Why not 100 (metric) degrees for full circle? Because one degree (out of 360) was deemed (through actual use) to be practical (small enough but not too small) AND 360 (a multiple of 12) can be evenly divided more flexibly.

          Consider how time is measured. 24 hours in a day. Why not 10 hours (deci-day?) in a day, and 100 minutes (centi-day?) in one hour? Because an hour (with 60 minutes/hour and 60 seconds/hour) was deemed to be practical. And again, 12 shows up. One day is two sets of 12 hours. That’s no coincidence. No one would suggest changing to a “metric day.”

          Other types of measurement like distance, weight, volume, temperature, also evolved units over time to be practical in actual use. But they were easier to transition to a less convenient system based (arbitrarily) on 10. Metric system is useful in the realm of the very small (microscopic) and very large (astronomical), but not in practical use like following a cooking recipe or building a house.

      2. It’s less arbitrary than the imperial system that’s uses the length of a kings big toe as the standard for the inch.

        The metric system is pretty well thought out, which is why it’s used everywhere, including in US industry.

        In fact, in ‘66, Congress made a resolution that manufacturers should adopt the metric system with all due speed.

        That wasn’t in 1966, it was in 1866.

        1. You’re wrong. Whatever the origin of the inch, it evolved and survived (along with the foot) as a preferred unit of measure because it was practical. There were other competing units of measure that died out, because they were less useful. In contrast, the length of a meter was probably well thought out (so that it’s close to a yard), but NO thought was given to the practicality of a centimeter; it’s just 1/10th of 1/10th of a meter. Just deal with it people, because the Metric System is more elegant.

          And pointing out that Congress supporting it makes it better is hilarious. People in Congress are exactly the intellectual elites who imagine they’re smarter than the people they govern. For example, impeachment for the sake of overturning results of an election and affecting results of next election.

          1. “Whatever the origin of the inch”
            3 barleycorns wide.

            “There were other competing units of measure that died out”
            Including Imperial, apparently. As, you see, the inch is based on… the Metric System 🙂 One inch is formally 25.4 mm as of 1933.

            So, there’s not a single 12 inch ruler being made today that isn’t based on the Metric System.

  4. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.interestingengineering.com/why-the-imperial-system-of-measurement-is-the-worst
    You are quite right on angle degrees and time: why aren’t they ”metric”? Thats something puzzled me but I guess we never came around to it 🙂 The metric revolution of specifically length and weight measuring was of course necessitated by trade. There was a dire need of a universally accepted unit.
    I dont know where you got the idea but in the rest of the world we bake and build houses using metric units (and deciliter is indeed used in baking!). Interestingly remnants of the old system still thrives. We buy for ex eggs in dozens (packs of 6 or 12). And in baking we speak of different spoon-sizes for measures but they are in fact specified in milliter, teaspoon equals 5 ml and so on.

  5. I didn’t necessarily say the metric world used metric units for cooking, etc. I kinda implied the opposite. The practical units of measure ARE still being used, just disguised with metric labels. Why not just use units of measure that are actually useful, instead of forcing metrics into the process?

    Be sure to get your 3.33 deci-days of sleep 😴

    1. Actually, the other way around. Metric units are at the core. In the US, they paste over the metric measurement using the internationally agreed to conversion rate. There is no factory in the world making “teaspoons” 🙂 They’re churning out 5ml spoons and, when shipping to the US, they call them teaspoons.

  6. One could speculate why not all time units have been converted into metrics (we have milliseconds thou). Many attempts have been made for a more rational metric division of time as for ex 10 hrs instead of 12. One reason might be that the real need to do it lacked for ordinary life. Also we have months and their godly (some of them) names since ”beginning of times”. It would mean more or less rewriting our historybooks. So however we turn we’re stuck with n:o 12 to start with. Second reason would be our current time units do not interfere with human interactions like trade. For scientific purposes the ancient measure of time falls short. In the computer world we also have real life exemples of improved time measure. The 24 hr system is a step forward as used in most parts of the world.

    1. I just always figured that time wasn’t metricized because there wasn’t a financial benefit to it 🙂 I mean, we have standardized measures because everyone wanted to trade and no one wanted to get screwed because how they measured a unit was different from the person they’re trading with.

      For time, I would imagine that as long as you promised to have the goods to them within a certain number of “day/night cycles”, they were fine. There was no need for a deeper level of detail than that in order to trade. Even today, very few structures require the detail of a single agreed to time standard. And for those that do, we’ve got the atomic clocks that just define the units we already use “seconds”, “minutes”, “hours” down to the appropriate level of detail. Minutes for the folks that’s supposed to be at work by 8:00 AM and have a 60 minute lunch, and nanoseconds for the stock market trading algorithms.

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