An Apple Car with no driver, steering wheel, pedals, horns, rearview mirrors?

Dennis Sellers for Apple World Today:

At some point an “Apple Car may not only lack a driver behind the wheel, but also come without a steering wheel, gas or break pedals, a horn and review mirrors.

As more autonomous features are being incorporated into cars, it will enable them to be manufactured without some of the equipment that’s commonplace today, according to IEEE. When asked to specify the year in which specific equipment will be removed from mass-produced cars, the majority of respondents believe rearview mirrors, horns, and emergency brakes will be removed by 2030 and steering wheels, and gas/brake pedals will follow by 2035. In addition, more than 75% of respondents also indicated that all 50 U.S. states would pass legislation permitting use of driverless vehicles within this time period.

MacDailyNews Take: Seeing so many texting while driving today, we’ll feel much safe when our robot overlords are ferrying us around and everyone can text inanities to their hearts’ content in complete safety!

18 Comments

      1. And there is at least one intelligent person here in the form of me. It is fine that you want a car driven by a loser who lives in the basement of his mom’s home over a wireless connection that can be interrupted at any time causing the car to become a deadly missile.

        1. More chance Kent will be right than PJS I suspect. We are an incredibly long way from a truly universal self driving car. Geez we can’t even stop aircraft flying into the ground because they can’t determine what ‘level’ flight is yet. Don’t think anyone knows as and when level 5 capability will be possible or even if in the foreseeable future despite some optimistic claims from the usual subjects. Rather reminiscent of the claims made in the 50s and 60s about Fusion …or even silver suits for that matter.

      2. Not necessarily a luddite.

        Kent, could just be a person who needs control over his own actions. It’s not much different than those people who prefer manual transmissions over automatic transmissions (even on the family sedan). For people who REALLY know how to use a manual transmission, there is so much more capability in how you move your car. (Unfortunately, of even those that prefer a manual transmission, I’d suggest than less than 10% of those really know how to use one well.)

        1. I would suggest that the people who use driverless cars now number less than 100 around the world. In other words, zero. The people who know the most about the software needed to make driverless cars actually possible and safe in all weather conditions say it will be over 50 years before this is feasible. The article is pure bunk and people who believe this folly are idiots.

          1. Very true and when you consider its the perfection of the last 5% in a hi tech project, that is the most difficult and time consuming particularly where health and safety is concerned simply technically making a car drive itself in ideal conditions is barely at 50% of the complexity of the problems involve and by far the easiest bit. After al there was a bounce activated TV set be before the war in labs yet it was a million mikes away from anything actually practical.even with the amazing technicalogical advances over the following 5 years.

  1. I project that until at least 2050 (or maybe even 2075) all cars will still have the ability to “go to manual mode”. Yes, by 2050 the majority of cars likely will be self driving, but a manual mode will be required by law until at least 2050.

    Also, what about the people who drive 20+ year old vehicles? The vast majority of those will still be driven in manual mode even as late as 2040 or even 2050. Many cars these days are 10-15 years old and 20+ year old cars are not that unusual.

    I believe the biggest shift is that by 2050 states will require special driver’s licenses to allow people to drive in specific areas, e.g., Manhattan. IF you want to drive (not be driven automatically) your car on Manhattan you will need special authorization to do so. Sure, if you want to drive yourself in the farmland areas of upstate New York a generic license will do, but if you want to drive yourself on Manhattan, then you’ll need an additional license to allow you to do that. (The same could easily be said of areas like downtown Los Angeles, downtown San Francisco, downtown Atlanta, downtown Chicago, etc.)

    1. decades of bad parenting, bad drivers training, and horrible transportation infrastructure is what makes tech enthusiasts dream of a better solution.

      my primary problem with Apple investigating future alternatives is that they aren’t even able to prove their concepts on low speed closed courses, like for agricultural equipment. automated car makers instead are being given access to public roads and people have died as a result of that. predictably, Apple leads the way in taking away features that empower the end user. Apple can’t even provide a reliable Maps app and they think they will be able to get a vehicle through real world roads? thanks for the laughs, Apple.

      the future may be nice in theory but if facebook and google are any indication, they all focus on turning people into sheep and pretend that society can bear the costs of their arrogance. automation will lead to even worse driver skills. should any issue happen when manual reversion is necessary, good luck! and make no mistake, you will never afford a car that is 100% automated and durable in the real world. how many sensors do you need to last through Arizona dust storms and North Dakota winters and New England salted roads? or do you rent all this stuff when it’s not being repaired? one way or another you will have to pay for many layers of redundancy in control systems. it’s not cost effective!

      then we have the problems of proper standards and testing that need to happen. when you realize how expensive that is, you’ll soon discover why there isn’t a flying car in every driveway. they would be cheap if the public was willing to accept the high crash rate. but nobody wants automated cars running over pedestrians and cyclists, do they? still a problem that no manufacturer has solved yet.

      regulation is good. lack of regulation leads to bad outcomes for everyone except the insider billionaires.

  2. Horns will go away, right. Because pedestrians will no longer exist (roll eyes). No wait, let me guess, you’ll get a text message instead.

    Rearview mirrors could go away and not because of driverless/autonomous – but more simply it should be a display screen.

    I have a 2013 Accord that puts up a camera view down the passenger side of the vehicle when you put your right turn signal on. It’s brilliant – no need to look to your right or trying to check a blindspot. Wish my other cars did this.

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