Gartner Research Director: Five things Apple’s iPad Pro needs to do

“With speculation rampant about a new iPad Pro that may or may not be released (or exist!), I started to think about the potential market for such a device,” Gartner Research Director Andrew Garver blogs. “In doing so, I thought of several real challenges that exist today that an enterprise-focused device needs to solve. (Note: I have no insider information on Apple products. I’m merely speculating on the challenges that exist in the market today).”

1) True to touch writing: If I’m going to be fooled into writing on a screen, there needs to be zero lag, zero space between the tip of the pen and where the ink displays, and 1:1 pressure sensitivity.

2) Bridge the gap in the enterprise: Address the need for a bridge to allow enterprises to build their new apps in modern architectures and gracefully solve for the long tail of older apps that simply won’t be modernized. Apple might not be the one to solve this—they could leave it to vendors that focus on virtualization.

3) Precision input.

4) Wirelessly project: PowerPoint happens, like it or not. I’m tired of plugging stuff in.

5) NFC APIs.

Read more in the full article here.

MacDailyNews Take: The iPad is the future. Stop trying to load it down with legacy functions and concepts. Lest it become a freakin’ Surface. And, Andrew, when Keynote happens, your presentations will look much better.

78 Comments

  1. I thought Samsung already solved all that stuff. People claim the Galaxy Note 5 is already the perfect pen input device if you ignore the “penghazi” debacle. Anyway, the Note 5 is said to be a wonderful scribbling device when using the stylus. Apple may have to pull out all stops for the iPad Pro or the event will be a good reason to downgrade Apple again. It really hurts when analyst expectations aren’t met.

      1. iTunes has buried the new Steve Jobs documentary. Virtually impossible to find it unless you do a search. Apple : big brother. It’s quite good. Honest, which is why Apple doesn’t like it, and refreshing.

    1. Samsung’s tablets are garbage. But the S Pen, on the other hand, is genius. It’s licensed from Wacom, the world’s leader in pressure-sensitive pens for at least a decade or two. The Wacom tech in the S Pen is amazing. It has no batteries, yet has far better sensitivity and accuracy than any iOS stylus, and perfect palm rejection. (Palm rejection is flaky and basically unusable on every single iOS pen.)

      Microsoft Surface uses the same Wacom pen.

      I hope Apple is licensing the Wacom tech for its own stylus. Doesn’t seem like Apple’s style though. They did hire Wacom’s two most senior driver engineers though a few years ago. So who knows.

  2. Andrew Garver, a member of the Gartner Blog Network asks at the end of that speculation: What do you think? Am I off base? What do you think the iPad Pro should do?

    I think that the one thing that Apple will definitely 100% do is ignore Andrew Garver from the Gartner network. I mean someone who speculates about the speculation, well there’s a loss of reality there for sure.

    1. Actually, unlike almost evryone else who pretends to be an expert at predicting what apple will do or should do, this guy actually tells you fair and square, “this is all speculation and my own personal opinion”. He is humble enough to ask if he is off base and if anyone else has other thoughts. Most “analysts” come down with a massive dose of arrogance, claiming full authority and professing some exclusive knowledge and expertise.

      I’d much rather entertain the ideas of people like Garver who don’t pretend to know better than anyone else.

      1. Thanks for your perspective Predrag. One of the things I’ve learned here is to appreciate the ideas of members from the Mac community.

        To this, you are absolutely right that he states he is speculating right off the bat and that does put his article in the “wish list” category and that’s fair enough.

        Still there is so much speculation that sometimes it is refreshing to read a factual report on Apple’s activities. To this point, I’m more than happy to see what happens on the 9th of September.

        Have a good one Predrag.

      1. Yeah, gespensen posted a link to the article on the third page. Just another issue on corruptive speculative journalism.
        We just don’t know the intent. Was this guy assigned the topic? Was is something that he really has been thinking about because he’s passionate? Was is something the advertisers (Microsoft in this case) wanted to put out as a FUD piece.

        I think you’d find all three plausible options (there may be more) running rampant but it’s the third one that is really ruining things.

        Thanks for the link BMWTwisty, keeps us on our toes.

          1. Yup, but if you consider what you did a “mistake” well it’s a good learning opportunity for a few things,
            – keeping an open mind
            – exchanging ideas with the community and mulling them over.
            – intent is often so important.
            – bit of repetition never hurts.

            I don’t know particularly know the author of this article, but coming from Gartner I take it with a huge grain of salt. Predrag makes a good point, that the guy was honest about his speculation, and another interpreted it as a bait and switch.

            We can toss a lot of possibilities out there, but knowing this guy’s intent is important. Speculating, go ahead, bait and switch, that’s outright sleazy and goodness knows there is a lot of that in the journal field.

            Predrag, gespensen and yourself pointing out ideas, that’s kewl, very kewl. That’s the real gem of MDN, the people who come and share their ideas.

            Have a good one.

  3. The reason why a device is groundbreaking is that it, uh breaks new ground. It introduces new paradigms that people with vision can embrace. And it introduces just enough functionality for today that entices people to buy it before the true value is realized.

    It does not look to the past because then there is little incentive for the old to embrace the new and it prevents the full realization of what could be.

    That’s why Mac notebooks no longer have floppy disks or DVD drives that require bulky cases and limits portability. Make the few that need those things find compromises instead of the masses.

    1. Providing a way to access old systems from an iPad doesn’t require mucking up iOS. You can control Windows PCs from an iPad. Similar dumb pipes can connect modern iPad guis over the network to old systems.

      And Apple doesn’t need to do this, just make sure there are no barriers for IT companies from finding a good solution.

      This is exactly why Apple is making deals with IBM and Cisco to support iPad.

  4. The iPad Pro needs to have a file system and be able to install Mac applications. In 2015 Apple should be able to port a lightweight version of OSX to run on ARM. Either that or they can easily use an Intel mobile processor, there are simply no excuses. A dual chip setup would work, deferring to the ARM when running iOS.

    Let’s be realistic, the iPad hasn’t been improved since it’s inception and there’s no reason to believe it will be now. I can tell you this, if the iPad Pro turns out to be just a giant iPad then it’s virtually DOA!

    I know I wont buy one.

    1. It needs a file system? Really? Does the Internet need a file system too? I haven’t filed a document for years and use search to find everything quickly and easily. My wife, on the other hand files everything and is always claiming that her MacBook loses her files because she forgets where she put them.

      1. what you are saying doesn’t make sense.

        If both you and your wife are using Apple devices, how can your wife ‘loses files’ ? Can’t she ALSO use search to find them like you if she forgets where she filed them?

        Your wife should have the advantage of BOTH having a file system and search. You who don’t file anything should have a disadvantage as without filing them and depending ONLY on search you have to know the search criteria. If you have s many, say hundreds of documents (some from OTHER PEOPLE like clients or associates) of a SIMILAR NATURE how do you easily search for it?

        Have no file system only works for small personal systems, doesn’t work for pros.

        For example I do 3D work, I want to know exactly where the assets for a particular job is kept, say a 3D scene of neighbourhood, all the objects: houses, cars, trees etc have to be filed. If you gave the project to the client or a processing centre how to do you collect all the objects together easily unless they are filed? One missing object, maybe dozens or hundreds and the project renders wrong. Wrong directory flow (filing hierarchy) and the program gets confused as it’ll say “files not found”. Similarly I bet other pros like accountants , lawyers etc will need to file all kinds of complicated together for a ‘project’.

        Please note the article is on iPad PRO so saying a lot of people don’t need such systems is moot as the article is about PROS.

        1. people one starring me, maybe you can explain what part of my argument about file systems is wrong?

          ——
          typo : ” One missing object, maybe dozens or hundreds and the project renders wrong.” should be “one object FROM maybe dozens or hundreds… “

          1. people still one starring me and not giving any counter arguments about file system

            as for “Does the Internet need a file system too?”
            most complex websites are designed in a file system often in deep hierarchies , that’s why you can so easily search them. The files are not thrown hither thither.

            1. following what i say about websites and ““Does the Internet need a file system too?” :

              think about it:
              if you are looking for something on the internet and do a Google search you might get thousands of hits and have difficulty sorting it out

              BUT IF YOU KNOW the EXACT FILE YOU ARE LOOKING FOR i.e THE HTTP file address you will get it the EXACT ITEM instantly. that’s filing.

              when you access a site by it’s HTTP address : like ‘Best Buy’ and then drill down to ‘computer software’ and then ‘type of software’ you are actually drilling down into a websites FILE SYSTEM set up on computers (servers) .

            2. You seem to be talking to yourself here, so I’ll chime in.

              You are arguing here for the other guy. What you described is exactly the various ways to abstract the file system from the end user. Best Buy’s web site certainly resides as a collection of files on some system, but the only person(s) who get to muck with those files are back-end engineers. Site visitors see much more intuitive navigation (categories / departments, or similar), and even those who manage content on that site never get to see that file system. They use various content management systems that provide much more intuitive and flexible way to manage content than the ages-old file system.

              I avoid as much as possible organizing my digital assets at work directly in the file system. Instead, I use appropriate tools for that (media asset management, for my FCP projects, stock footage and archives, a CMS for administrative assets,much as Word, PPT, Excel and similar), and I almost never need to access the actual file system on my Macs. The sooner we get rid of the reliance for the end user to the file system the sooner we will realize the full potential of content and asset management systems.

              Sorting files into hierarchical folders is tedious, arbitrary, slow, inefficient and a virtual guarantee that we will continuously be increasing the time it takes to actually find a file with the increasing numbers of files and folders in it. Only the simplest of the simple hierarchies can be reasonably efficient. The moment you exceed a few dozen folders and 4 – 5 layers, you’re wasting time drilling down.

            3. what you all still don’t seem to get which I wrote about in my first post is this:

              an OS with a user accessible file system can ALSO use Spotlight search etc.

              it gives pros a choice. You assume that every pro works the way you do.

              The Hallmark of a PRO OS is flexibility.

          2. i have a friend who, when he goes to check his Yahoo email, he types h-t-t-p-:-/-/-m-a-i-l-.-y-a-h-o-o-.-c-o-m. All of of those 20 characters, one by one. I type yahoo in Google, then click on ‘Mail’ from the Sitelink menu, even though I know their webmail interface is at mail.yahoo.com. Search reduces the number of keystrokes.

            On my work Mac, many of my files ended up on it through direct interaction with he file system. However, once they got there, I almost never need to drill throug the file system to get to them. Even if I’m the only user of my own hierarchy and know exactly how I categorise my files, I can still forget where I put a file (is it in projects/completed/documentation/admin or in administration/documents/project-documents/manuals/maintenance ?) no matter how seemingly prefect your hierarchy is, it will inevitably grow to a point where almost every document or asset could be reasonably categorized into two or more places that are dozens of levels apart.

            Spotlight on the Mac made file system irrelevant. Since it became available, I abandoned my tedious hierarchical file sorting. Spotlight made everything so much faster. And with some pro apps using their own asset management (like FCP, iWorks etc), thenfikemsystem on Mac is steadily moving further and further away from the end user. Hopefully, one day, Finder will forever disappear from user’s view and we’ll be managing our stuff the way it should be, using systens actually designed to manage data (rather than just store it).

            1. to repeat:

              what you all still don’t seem to get which I wrote about in my first post is this:

              an OS with a user accessible file system can ALSO use Spotlight search etc.

              it gives pros a choice. You assume that every pro works the way you do.

              The Hallmark of a PRO OS is flexibility.

            2. We really need to move away from the old and arcane way of managing data by manually organising it in a hierarchical file systems. This is a concept that is already years, if not decades beyond its expiration date. It is inefficient, unreliable, tedious and scales very poorly. There will always be old people who are so used to it that they are unwilling to even consider better alternatives, but for the sake of the rest of the world’s computing population, we really need to push forward with more intuitive and efficient way of organising data. Jobs understood this extremely well, which resulted in iTunes, iPhoto, iWork, as well as iOS — all of them solutions that hide the file system from the user and get them to organise their data in much more efficient and intuitive manner. Unfortunately, Jobs died before he could do the same for Mac OS X, and I’m not sure Cook and the team have the same vision regarding this.

      2. @Insight

        Okay, so it doesn’t need a file system.

        Then don’t use the “Pro” monniker and call it what it is, a giant, still hobbled iPad.

        Only don’t expect people who already have a smaller version (or two) to be interested.

        And Tim Cook can go back to what he was doing. What exactly does he do again?

  5. Gartner and other research companies are the haven of bozos who couldn’t make a living working for companies who actually ship products. Why some people listen to these incompetents is beyond comprehension.

  6. As an administrator of a large number of iPads used in mission critical functions, I’d love the ability to remotely restrict iPads enrolled in my MDM to specific iOS versions. Not all app vendors can be ready with day zero compatibility, and we physically can’t validate all of our apps on new iOS versions for usually a few weeks after release. There’s always a few users who upgrade iOS before we can ensure compatibility.. It’s a big problem for enterprise iPads.

    1. And who the hell on earth would be dumb enough to use iPads (or any other Apple product for that matter) to run “mission critical” applications?

      For real mission critical applications, the only name you can trust is Microsoft OS’s.

      🙂 🙂 🙂

        1. Sorry, I keep repeating it to every Apple fannies in the world, and let me repeat it one more time.

          No “Candy Crush” is not a “mission critical” application!

          And absolutely NO airline in the world uses ANY Apple product to run “mission critical” applications!

          Absolutely NONE! Like in ZERO!

          🙂 🙂 🙂

            1. I certainly know exactly what EFB’s are and what they do!

              Again, NO they are definitely NOT mission critical applications by any standards.

              You may want to lookup the definition of “mission critical”.

              🙂 🙂 🙂

            2. It’s hard to get a flight off the ground on time without a flight plan, notams, sigwx charts, takeoff performance or navigation charts. Available on the crews iPads. Might as well be on a bus at that point.

              Anyway, you’ve been fun but I’ve already stretched my lunch break a bit too far. Have an excellent day!

      1. Any IT director who trusts mission-critical software to any microsoft platform is breaching his fiduciary responsibility.

        Windows is not secure, it is not securable, and I have no reason to believe that it ever will be in the future.

        -jcr

        1. Based on the National Vulnerability Database maintained by the U.S. government, Windows IS most certainly the most secure OS commercially available on the market today!

          Please refer to the National Vulnerability Database which I provide you here the link below for your convenience …

          https://nvd.nist.gov/

          Enjoy

          🙂 🙂 🙂

          P.S. you will most certainly be shocked to learn that the least secure OS’s are all Apple OS’s starting with MacOS and then iOS …

  7. This idiot goes right off into the weeds at item one. The iPad demonstrated that handwriting recognition is NOT the way to go. Apple tried that with the Newton, and it was a failure. The on-screen keyboard is an obviously superior solution.

    The Gartner Group’s entire business is selling “reports” that they pull out of their asses. They don’t know shit, they never did know a damn thing, and I have no reason to believe that they will ever so much as rent a clue.

    -jcr

    1. Actually, handwriting recognition works quite well now. Look up the Stack app. They have a padre Memo app and a keyboard for iOS. The main issue I have with it now is that because of the digitizer resolution you have to write large characters as on a white board.

      If I could write with a stylus on an iPad the same as if I were writing on paper (size and speed) that would be awesome.

  8. I now only use iOS on my phone, having happily replaced my iPads with a Macbook, but having said that, a good handwriting app would be great for note taking. Based on many years of experience, the action of typing for note taking takes away from the comprehension. I had a stylus and an app and it worked very well for note taking in meetings. I think handwriting is so ingrained in our brains that we can do it without any conscious thought, leaving the largest part of the brain to listen to the speaker. My opinion. I work in a school and I see students trying to type notes on tablets, and you can see their heads bobbing up and down and they have sort of a vaguely irritated look on their faces, which I see much less on conventional note takers.

        1. Sorry, you have been left behind!

          Apple is unable to catch up to competition.

          Apple “engineers” (not to say they have any competent engineers on staff) are completely disoriented and have lost their footing!

          Apple “engineers” are struggling to keep up with the times and they just can’t figure out what’s coming next!

          Apple is falling off a cliff at warp speed and there’s nothing to stop them from falling!

          Apple is are GONE!

          Apple is a FAILURE!

          Apple is old, passé and a waste of your money money!

          🙂 🙂 🙂

          1. Well, I can see why you don’t work at Microsoft. No one with a IQ of over a 100 would jump on that sinking ship.

            I just can’t comprehend why you would be spewing all these lies to help a dying company. Surly you could make a lot more money helping a solid growing company like Samsung.

            Get out there and help Samsung be all it can.

      1. The Surface tablet would not exist were it not for the iPad and an agreement with Apple.

        GerryBowsinger, I have to ask, “Why are you posting on this forum and pushing Windows and Surface and such?” You must know that you are wasting your time. The majority of Mac users are all too well acquainted with Windows – generally forcibly acquainted with the Windows and the excrebable Microsoft applications through work. We know Microsoft and Windows and Office and we *choose* to use Macs and iOS devices. We do not need your obviously biased inputs. If you really wanted to make an impact, then you would lay off of the hyperbole.

        1. Gee, did you know the Microsoft research team had been working on a tablet form factor 25 years ago?

          Why do Apple fannies always claim Apple did it first?

          In an interview between Bill Gates and the late Steve Jobs dated back to 2007, Bill Gates told Jobs that to be in any way useful, the tablet form factor needed to include a pen interface for note taking!

          When Gates said that to Jobs, Jobs looked dazed and confused and remained totally speechless for at least 10-15 seconds.

          Jobs the so called “great visionary” genius of all times … totally mesmerized by Bill Gates enlightening vision of a future near which was totally beyond Jobs mental comprehension!

          Apple fannies continue to refuse to let go of their fantasies and remain convinced that the bedtime stories they’ve been told are actually factually true!!!!!

          🙂 🙂 🙂

          1. And yet, iPads selling like hot cakes, while Surfaces rot in storage.

            MS is the company that came up with this wonderful Modern/Metro/Tile interface for Win 8.

            Sarcasm aside, MS knows shit about good user Interface. Seriously.

    1. Ooo. You’re out to discombobulate granny! When she calls me late at night to find her files for her, I’ll direct her to you.

      iOS is NOT a professional level OS. I don’t think that’s going to change. It’s a simple OS for simple purposes, even if that means professional purposes.

  9. Had to laugh at the idea of the “Gartner research director” determining what the iPad Pro should do; fella, go back to Microsoft and rework the Surface into something other than a clickable joke!!

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