China drops Apple, others from approved state purchase lists

“China has dropped some of the world’s leading technology brands from its approved state purchase lists, while approving thousands more locally made products, in what some say is a response to revelations of widespread Western cyber-surveillance,” Paul Carsten reports for Reuters. “Others put the shift down to a protectionist impulse to shield China’s domestic technology industry from competition.”

“Chief casualty is U.S. network equipment maker Cisco Systems Inc, which in 2012 counted 60 products on the Central Government Procurement Center’s (CGPC) list, but by late 2014 had none, a Reuters analysis of official data shows,” Carsten reports. “Smartphone and PC maker Apple Inc has also been dropped over the period, along with Intel Corp’s security software firm McAfee and network and server software firm Citrix Systems… The number of approved foreign tech brands fell by a third, while less than half of those with security-related products survived the cull.

“China’s change of tack coincided with leaks by former U.S. National Security Agency (NSA) contractor Edward Snowden in mid-2013 that exposed several global surveillance program, many of them run by the NSA with the cooperation of telecom companies and European governments,” Carsten reports. “‘The Snowden incident, it’s become a real concern, especially for top leaders,’ said Tu Xinquan, Associate Director of the China Institute of WTO Studies at the University of International Business and Economics in Beijing. ‘In some sense the American government has some responsibility for that; (China’s) concerns have some legitimacy.’ U.S. tech groups wrote last month to the Chinese administration complaining about some of its new cybersecurity regulations, some of which force technology vendors to Chinese banks to hand over secret source code and adopt Chinese encryption algorithms.”

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MacDailyNews Take: The shorts will attempt to push AAPL down on this news, but Apple sells mainly to Chinese consumers. Apple Retail Stores continue being built and opened throughout China. Apple will be just fine.


      1. For how many years do vacuous supporters of the empty-suit and Oblahblah himself get to claim “It’s Bush’s fault?”

        “It’s Bush’s fault” that domestic, unconstitutional spying has increased 1000% during the Obama administration? How so, exactly?

        1. For how many years do vacuous supporters of the empty-suit and Oblahblah himself get to claim “It’s Bush’s fault?”

          Forever. He gets a pass forever and gets to blame anyone else but himself forever because he’s “black.”


          Barry Soetoro’s unreleased college records

        1. Yes, you’re right. Reagan issued EO 12333. G.W. Bush issued EO 13470 to strengthen EO 12333. Basically EO 13470 enhanced the powers of the DNI (“Subject to the authority, direction, and control of the President”) and added the intelligence goal of, “Intelligence collection under this order should be guided by the need for information to respond to intelligence priorities set by the President.”

          And even before that, in November, 2001, the G.W. Bush administration directed the then Deputy Attorney General to write a memo to the then Attorney General stating the full scope of G.W. Bush’s assumed authority…
          “Thus, unless Congress made a clear statement in [the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act] that it sought to restrict presidential authority to conduct warrantless searches in the national security area—which it has not—then the statute must be construed to avoid such a reading. …. We do not believe that Congress may restrict the President’s inherent constitutional powers, which allow him to gather intelligence necessary to defend the nation from direct attack.”
          So, under G.W. Bush, intelligence gathering was for whatever goal G.W. Bush said it was, AND G.W. Bush believed that the U.S. Congress had no authority to restrict the President’s authority to gather whatever information he wanted.
          Now, how is any of this Obama’s fault? Republican Presidents set all this up. The public record (documents obtained under the FOIA) clearly show this.
          Also, what evidence do you have that Obama has “increased 1000%”? What documents show this (other than dubious opinions in the public media)?

    1. yeah, they did it because they could, given the vastly improved means. Obama should have shitcanned the patriot act that had been put in place by the braindead … now who was it?

          1. Yes, you are correct. The fact remains: The braindead Hillary Clinton did vote Yea for the Patriot Act. The vote was 98-1, so the actual Senate President was meaningless as his vote was not required. Al Gore is braindead, regardless of the date.

            1. Isn’t it funny how the leader of the US Senate was important to mention when you thought it was Al Gore, but now that you remember it was Cheney, it’s “meaningless”.

      1. Actually, NO.

        Note that it is a House Bill (“H.R.”) which means that it has to pass the HOUSE first before going to the Senate. The Senate just ratified what the House sent to them. It is 100% asinine to try to lay this at any one senator’s feet (but you’ll certainly try).

        And, you seem to conveniently forget that anyone (literally anyone) who opposed any measure (reasonable or not) to strengthen U.S. security measures was immediately branded as anti American and unpatriotic. In that climate (strongly fostered by the administration in power at that time) virtually everyone voted for any “pro security” measure no matter how idiotic it was.

        Now since the House and Senate both voted for the Patriot Act that you seem to be trying to say was not a good thing, which President signed it into law? Which President didn’t even threaten to veto it unless it was made more reasonable? Which President praised it on end?

  1. So, “Edward Snowden in mid-2013” is being used again to push down Apple’s stock. Really, that is all you have shorts.

    Check your old school watch as you get in your plain vinilla car and tell me that all things Apple can be stopped or even slowed down.

    1. I believe the last time I read this story, the issue was that Apple had not correctly filled out all the required paper work. Apple should not have missed that at the time. However, that was corrected. Need to see what this one is about and the story is about the people buying Apple products. When Apple saturates China, we can start working about the government orders.

  2. Apple’s security (i.e. no back doors) would prevent the Chinese government spying on their own employees.
    Note that the same restrictions have been applied by the Putin government in Russia.

  3. Obvious concept: Hey Apple! Drop China from your manufacturing sources.

    What’s really going on: The commie scum Chinese government can CONTROL local companies and force them to infest their gear with surveillance hardware and software. What’s a totalitarian state with out TOTALLY spying on its citizens? Conform. CONFORM. CONFORM! CONFORM!!!

    What a dump. 😛

      1. I remember in the 1970s the use of laser reflections off certain materials as a method of audio surveillance. That sounded whacked out but was real.

        Today I was reading about the ‘Cicret Bracelet’, a modern scam whereby a pico projector is supposed to allow projecting a color GUI onto your arm from a magical $470 bracelet then pick up your finger movements on the GUI. There are videos of the thing in action, all faked. The sucker wranglers are asking for $1 million’s worth in donations to make it real. The release date of the prototype passed by in January. Nothing. Oops.

        Meanwhile, I’ve been bombarded recently with scam phone calls, all entirely predictable and obvious. But the keep on coming. So apparently there are metric tons of suckers out there in the world.

        1. I was playing with tin foil hat notions. The notion that audio waves can interfere with light as it hits a photo receptor seems dubious. You might as well plant a mic. Anyway. The Internet if full of scams, like you said. Where are French laws, when you need them?

          1. Regarding the laser, it works by vibrating the material from which the laser is reflected. What’s measured is changes in the reflected laser beam relative to the source beam. It actually works. But the reflecting material has to be flexible enough to respond to sound waves in the room. They used to say you could bounce the laser off any old mirror. I’m not sure about that. – – Totally agree about the French laws. Very ironic. I figure we’ll hear about lawsuits re- Cicret Bracelet this year.

  4. It would seem to me.

    1. US companies would not intentionally add back doors to their products.

    2. If back doors were found, (which I have seen no proof), it is possible that it was accomplished with planted engineers, favoring government spying, maybe under duress.

    3. If this could happen to US companies, why would it not be possible for US spy agencies to infiltrate Chinese, or other foreign companies? Even more so, spies from their own local governments?

    Give the above proposal, in the long term, I can imagine products with independent back doors for multiple nations. These products are so compromised they would not be able to function efficiently or as originally intended.

    This could be the collapse of the Internet. No matter how hard non-compromised engineers try, their product always suck and the laws of the universe and logic, don’t seem to apply anymore.

    I believe that the above is not true, and it’s all fantasy. Go hide in a closet.

  5. More countries need to take measure to curtail purchase from a nation that has gained a reputation for spying, industrial sabotage, torture and other crimes against humanity.

    Even countries from the free and civilized world that produce computer electronics need to be wary as is the case with the Dutch company Gemalto. The latest: “Rights groups around the world have called for urgent action to protect private communications after it was revealed that US and British spies hacked into the world’s largest sim card manufacturer and gained unfettered access to billions of mobile phones around the globe.”

    It’s obvious that it will take time for justice to be dolled out, nonetheless those scum responsible are in for a huge dose of karma.

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