U.S. FDA details high-level meeting with Apple: ‘Moral obligation to do more’ with health, innovative sensors

“Following Apple employees’ meeting with the FDA to discuss ‘mobile medical applications’ earlier this year, Apple Toolbox has published a response from the FDA to a Freedom of Information Act Request asking for more information about what was discussed,” Jordan Kahn reports for 9to5Mac.

“A response to the request took three months to complete, and arrived just after Apple introduced its new HealthKit platform and Health app for iOS 8 last week,” Kahn reports. “While much the FDA’s answer sounds like Apple was discussing HealthKit, the response also gives some interesting clues that Apple is working on health products that go beyond the sensors currently in the iPhone and iPad: ‘With the potential for more sensors on mobile devices, Apple believes there is the opportunity to do more with devices, and that there may be a moral obligation to do more… Sensors already exist on medical devices. For instance, Apple’s devices have cameras and accelerometers. There is still an opportunity to innovate, but Apple wants to make sure they are on the side of the FDA.'”

Read more in the full article here.

FDA’s Response (Freedom of Information Act Request) in Apple Toolbox‘s full article here.

32 Comments

  1. Apple will provide much of the info as fitness and nutrition. For more medically oriented advice, it will likely use partnerships such as announced with the Mayo Clinic to filter the information thus absolving it from making medical judgments.

    1. Fluoride in American drinking water is a cold war straw dog.

      Perhaps some cholera is in order for you. Or, perhaps your thinking extends to vaccinations. Since you neocons have trumpeted that maguffin, measles and polio have once again reared their heads. And of course, cell phones cause brain cancer. It hasn’t worked fast enough on you. Geez, get a life.

            1. I use a Big Berkey® water filter, fill it with the Clorox’ed-crap from the city then load it into the refrigerator. I have had not ONE person try the city water and the filtered water in a taste-test not exclaim, “wow, you really can tell the difference.”

              Water is H2O and nothing else.

          1. Group Capt. Lionel Mandrake: Colonel… that Coca-Cola machine. I want you to shoot the lock off it. There may be some change in there.
            Colonel “Bat” Guano: That’s private property.
            Group Capt. Lionel Mandrake: Colonel! Can you possibly imagine what is going to happen to you, your frame, outlook, way of life, and everything, when they learn that you have obstructed a telephone call to the President of the United States? Can you imagine? Shoot it off! Shoot! With a gun! That’s what the bullets are for, you twit!
            Colonel “Bat” Guano: Okay. I’m gonna get your money for ya. But if you don’t get the President of the United States on that phone, you know what’s gonna happen to you?
            Group Capt. Lionel Mandrake: What?
            Colonel “Bat” Guano: You’re gonna have to answer to the Coca-Cola company.

        1. Current FDA chief, another Obama appointee from Chicago:

          Margaret Ann Hamburg (born July 12, 1955, Chicago, Illinois) is an American physician and medical/public health administrator. She has served as Commissioner of the U.S. Food and Drug Administration since May, 2009.

          She was appointed the Board of Directors of Henry Schein Associates, the largest provider of healthcare products and services to office-based practitioners in the combined North American and European markets, on November 3, 2003.

          (nah, that’s no conflict of interest.)

      1. Googled warfarin.
        C19H16O4
        No fluoride.

        Botvinnik is correct in that hydrofluoric acid is highly toxic. I find it surprising that fluoride + stomach acid does not result in significant toxicity at levels used for water treatment. The toxic dose for humans is 5-10g, whereas water fluoridation is in mg. Tea and other foods and drinks have significant levels of fluoride that approach the levels in fluoridated water.

        Google hydrofluoric acid. It is terrifying stuff.

        1. http://www.doctoryourself.com/news/v1n2.html

          “I recall that Coumadin, or sodium warfarin, is the same ingredient as used in D-Con rat poison.”

          From Wikipedia:
          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warfarin

          Warfarin (also known by the brand names Coumadin, Jantoven, Marevan, Uniwarfin) is an anticoagulant normally used in the prevention of thrombosis and thromboembolism, the formation of blood clots in the blood vessels and their migration elsewhere in the body respectively. Warfarin is commonly but incorrectly referred to as a blood thinner. It was initially introduced in 1948 as a pesticide against rats and mice and is still used for this purpose…

      2. My apologies if this gets posted twice, but it doesn’t seem to be showing up.

        Googled warfarin.
        C19H16O4
        No fluoride.

        Botvinnik is correct in that hydrofluoric acid is highly toxic. I find it surprising that fluoride + stomach acid does not result in significant toxicity at levels used for water treatment. The toxic dose for humans is 5-10g, whereas water fluoridation is in mg. Tea and other foods and drinks have significant levels of fluoride that approach the levels in fluoridated water.

        Google hydrofluoric acid. It is terrifying stuff.

    2. Fluoride in drinking water has been a HUGE BOON for society.

      There is no “mandated” GMO foods. I’m all for them though. Provide PROOF that there is anything wrong with GMO foods *themselves*. (Not something wrong with the process, I admit there may be problems there.. I mean ACTUAL unhealthful issues FROM THE FOOD ITSELF.)

  2. Well, hell, I was really excited about this until I found out the FDA is interested. The government has their nose up in enough of my business without my consent. What could be more private/sensitive than my health information? I know Apple is our privacy protector, but all it takes is a flick of a pen to make a new law and they suddenly have ALL of my daily health info. Feeling skittish now.

    1. All medical devices have to go through FDA vetting, and have for decades. It’s a double-edged sword: slower process to get new devices to market, but fewer quack, non-effective devices and remedies that cheat people and which are actually dangerous.

      1. Obviously, #MyStupidGovernment is more interested in $$$$ and biznizz game playing than making sense. Therefore, of course Apple wants to feel out their current form of insanity in order to avoid triggering off one of their phobias or bureaucratic landmines.

      2. @Spark
        Talking sense and giving an intelligent, measured response is inappropriate for most of the people commenting on this thread.

        It’s well known that sensationalist and unsubstantiated claims will always trump scientific knowledge, and blows peer-reviewed research clean out of the water ( whether that water is fluoridated or not ).

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