Judge Lucy Koh again asks Apple and convicted patent infringer Samsung to hold settlement talks

“A federal district court judge on Tuesday asked Apple and Samsung to hold talks one more time before a new patent infringement trial is scheduled to kick off in March,” Shara Tibken reports for CNET.

“Judge Lucy Koh, speaking before jury selection in a retrial of a separate suit Apple filed against Samsung, told attorneys for the companies that she would like them to try to reach a settlement and that she would prefer the companies’ CEOs participate in the talks,” Tibken reports. “‘I ask that before March, there be one last, or additional, attempt to see if you can resolve these cases,’ she said. She prefaced the request by saying to the attorneys for Apple and Samsung that ‘you don’t have to laugh at me, but even my chambers laughs at me when I mention settlement.'”

MacDailyNews Take: Ditz, you have to know there will be no settlement, unless you’re smoking crack.

“The parties agreed they will have a proposal for talks by January 8. Koh noted she was disappointed it will take that long but agreed to the date,” Tibken reports. “Koh made the comments at a retrial related to damaged owed to Apple by Samsung. The trial kicked off Tuesday in the United States District Court for the Northern District of California in San Jose. It’s slated to last about six days before the case is turned over to the jury for deliberation.”

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  1. Let’s see, in Judge Koh’s world the following scenario is desirable:

    Person A was robbed by Person B.
    Koh: Why can’t you settle your differences yourselves in a conference?

    1. This paid for Korean witch really enrages me, what on earth is she thinking about asking them for Settlement talks, she’s completely clueless or she is paid for by Korean mob aka Samsung.

    2. But that would be a criminal case. Oh, by the way, those often end in “settlement” as well, but in criminal law that is called a “plea deal.”
      Usually, settlement is cheaper than the effort of putting on a trial. If the parties are reasonably sure of where things are going, reasonable parties should be able to work up something that balances things.
      I don’t think Samsung is reasonable, but the judge has to recommend it. That’s standard practice, and you never know, they might come up with some reason it makes sense to settle.

  2. Good idea Judy — flashback last time when a 1+ billion settlement was awarded under your mindful watch and in your courtroom — how did that work out for Apple–I’m sure Samsung is now willing to settle –sarcasm !!

    1. I wonder if there’s a study showing how much Apple lost because of Samdung’s theft of Apple’s IP. I’m sure it exceeds the one billion dollar settlement. Companies need to learn they can’t get away with this sort of thing. I hope a cease and desist is issued to prevent Samdung from selling devices with Apple IP in them, or at least allow Apple to collect licensing fees for each device sold. Hell, that’s how Microsoft makes half their money.

  3. “Koh noted she was disappointed it will take that long…”

    Bee itch. You are with the Federal Government. When does the Federal Government ever move that fast. Or ANYTHING in YOUR courtroom for that matter. A proposal to meet by Jan 8 is lightning fast compared to the Federal Court System.

    If that ain’t the pot calling the kettle black then nothing is.

    1. uh, here’s your answer:

      About District Judge Lucy H. Koh
      Judge, U. S. District Court, Northern District of California
      Nominated by Barack Obama on January 20, 2010, to a seat vacated by Ronald M. Whyte. Confirmed by the Senate on June 7, 2010, and received commission on June 9, 2010.

  4. In other news, Judge Koh has ordered the Ten Commandments removed from her ‘chambers’ and replaced with a portrait of Neville Chamberlin, Saburo Kurusu in place of the Declaration of Independence, and (of course) Barak Obama is plastered over the Constitution…in more ways than one.

  5. Actually, in complex technical litigation like this, a jury is substantially less likely to reach a rational result than if the parties just shot craps. The inevitable screwy verdict will be appealed and sent back for another try. The only way this case is ever going to reach a final resolution is through some sort of settlement. That may be sad, but sometimes the truth hurts.

    1. Nah. Apple wants this to be a precedent. Rip off Apple and you are so screwed! Just having this trial to dragging on and on through the mud, mud for which Samsung will be paying in full, is almost entirely good for Apple and bad for Samsung and any other dicks into ripping off Apple IP.

      I dream. But it could happen!

  6. This is getting to the point where there should be two payments to Apple – the $1b from Samsung plus interest AND interest plus implied damages from other IP theft due to delays and disgraceful outcomes in this trial. At least part of the second payment should come from Lucy.

  7. The sad truth is that everyone is pressured to reach a settlement before trial, often even coerced into a settlement, because the court system does not have nearly enough resources to honor everyone’s right to a fair trial.

  8. …and they say justice is blind…one doesn’t need a computer engineering degree, one only needs to be a consumer to see that Samsung has “slavishly copied” the iPhone…open your eyes Koh…or is it just that this particular justice is blind ?

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