“Samsung on Saturday accused Apple of resorting to litigation in an effort to limit consumer choice after the iPhone maker said it was seeking to stop the sale of Galaxy S III smartphones in the United States,” Youkyung Lee reports for The Associated Press. “Fresh from its $1 billion court victory over Samsung Electronics Co, Apple Inc., in a separate case, asked a federal district court in San Jose, California, on Friday to add four more products to a list of Samsung goods that Apple says infringe its patents.”
“The new list of 21 products includes Samsung’s flagship smartphone Galaxy S III as well as the Galaxy Note, another popular Android phone,” Lee reports. “If the court finds those devices are infringing Apple’s patents and irreparably harming the U.S. company, it could temporarily halt sales in the U.S. market even before the trial begins… Last month, a jury in the San Jose court found that Samsung had copied Apple’s design innovations and Samsung was ordered to pay Apple $1.05 billion.”
Lee reports, “On Saturday, Samsung denounced Apple’s attempt to halt sales of the S III, which hit the 10 million global sales mark in July, less than three months after its release. ‘Apple continues to resort to litigation over market competition in an effort to limit consumer choice,’ Samsung said in a statement. ‘We will continue to take the necessary legal measures to ensure the availability of our innovative products in the United States.'”
Read more in the full article here.
MacDailyNews Take: Apple is enforcing their patented IP, as is their fiduciary responsibility. If Samsung was really interested in “consumer choice,” they wouldn’t be offering iPhone and iPad knockoffs, but instead be creating and making original, legal products that do not steal other companies’ patented property. Samsung, by willfully infringing on Apple’s design patents, risked limiting “consumer choice” sometime in the future. Samsung’s gamble failed. Their only real regret is that they lost the case. All of the fault lies with Samsung, not Apple. Blame the criminal, not the victim.
Those whining nearly as much as Samsung are those who invested in stolen technology. To each of them we say: “Tough shit, settler. You should’ve bought a real iPhone like a smart person.”
As we wrote last Monday: Apple created the modern day smartphone and taught the world what an iPhone is. This was not trivial, nor was it free.
The reason there are copies – of anything – is to take for free (steal) that which was paid for by the original maker: The R&D, the salary and perks of the world’s preeminent industrial designer [and his team], the education of the public through TV spots and a very expensive network of retail outlets, the hundreds of millions in online, print, television, etc. marketing, everything that goes into a product.
This why a maker of knockoff handbags makes Coach knockoffs, to trade on Coach’s work in order to move their fake wares without investing in the design, marketing, etc. This is why a maker of auto knockoffs makes BMW knockoffs. This is why Samsung knocked off iPhone. Samsung stole Apple’s work and they traded on Apple’s considerable investment. This is why the jury found Samsung guilty.
There is no market for paintings of Campbell’s soup cans without Warhol.
Making knockoffs isn’t flattery, it’s theft. It’s also an expression of companies’ disdain and low opinion of their own customers.
Apple’s products came first, then Samsung’s:
Here’s what Google’s Android looked like before and after Apple’s iPhone:
Related articles:
Apple files amended complaint, adds Samsung Galaxy S3, Galaxy Note, Note 10.1 to list of patent infringing devices – September 1, 2012
Steve Jobs vindicated by Apple v. Samsung verdict – August 28, 2012
Apple kicks Google’s Android in the teeth; $1.05 billion jury award may really be worth $450 billion – August 27, 2012
Apple created a new design and way of using a mobile phone/PDA unlike any previous, which every other manufacturer just copied. That should be perfectly clear even to congenital dimwits.
Apprarently your perspective only applies to American dimwits as Apple is not getting any love anywhere else on the globe. We can all thank RIM to for their pioneering in the mobile text communication field and not Apple per say unless you are all hot and bothered with being able to buy 21340 task manager apps.
Pat …. Wasn’t that androgynous comedy character… I didn’t fInd that at all funny… This Pat is hilarious in his (its) ingonorance….
The SNL “Pat” was stupid and annoying like most of SNL but worse.
This Pat is monotonous, unoriginal, and tedious as a serial troll.
“Apprarently [sic] your perspective only applies to American dimwits as Apple is not getting any love anywhere else on the globe.”
Wanna bet? If you can actually READ, Patty, you might want to check out Apple’s latest quarterly results, INCLUDING world-wide sales of all products, iPhone to Mac. You and your RIM/SOFT/DUNG minions should be so lucky.
Oh, and by the way, as an American “dimwit,” I’ll put my MENSA card up against yours any day of the week. Moron.
Me: “Quiet chuckling”
Friend: “Are you reading MDN again?”
Me: “Yeah. Someone named randian just payed the mensa card defending American dimwits from androgynous Pat who apparently used to work for RIM, but of course no longer does.” I love this website.
LOL!
ALWAYS good to see you in a good mood Thelonious!
The Mensa card is like a Tourette’s symptom.
@Randian. Not that I disagree with your point, but are there different MENSA cards? I thought they were all the same. Being in MENSA, I am hoping you could answer a question that had been bothering me: If raspberry flavored jam is called “raspberry preserves” and strawberry flavored jam is called “strawberry preserves” then why is orange flavored jam called “marmalade?”
It doesn’t take a MENSA card to search:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marmalade
Though your comment suggests that you may be a sort of tedious literalist, the fact that you offered a link irrelevant to the question as posed suggests you may just aspire to being such, and simply lack a sense of humor. Sad.
Dictionary?
Marmalade
A clear, jellylike preserve made from the pulp and rind of fruits, especially citrus fruits.
Jam
A preserve made from whole fruit boiled to a pulp with sugar
Jelly
A fruit product made by boiling sugar and the juice of fruit
Sorry if I didn’t find your idiotic question humorous. What’s sad is that you can’t recognize an insult.
Impotent Insult Guy still has no sense of humor.
Ears still ringing from that WHOOSHING sound over your head?
I accept your apology. But you needn’t apologize. You have argued for your limitations more than adequately.
Marmalade comes from the portuguese word for quince. It just refers to jam, but citrus jam was originally only imported into Britain from spain and marked Marmalade, so he name stuck. A preserve is usually a jelly without fruit pieces, otherwise it is jam. But usage has changed over the uears and American English has lots of new terms and also many terms which are no longer used in Britain. “Gotten” is a good example of an old English word no longer used in England. If citrus jam were imported from Korea, no doubt it would be known as “imitation marmalade” – and it would probably be horrible…
Mensa card? You are kidding me right? Learn how to spell dimwit you mean your Church of Scientology Card! You are fn moron!
If everyone’s a moron then no one is.
Pitiful
Assholatious
Troll
I would agree with you. It’s very interesting that they only place Apple has managed to win any of these court battles in in their home state of California. Makes you wonder doesn’t it. No matter, I personally think the recent court decision will eventually get overturned in the Supreme Court. Otherwise this is going to end up a US versus the rest of the world battle at the WTO.
How would this type of case ever be heard by the Supreme Court.
…moron.
Do your research prick.
The US Supreme Court has ruled on countless patent appeal cases as the highest court in the land.
That’s the only place where it really counts. Samsung would take a win in the U.S. over a win elsewhere anyday.
Apple has plenty of wins, just not finalized. In iTC, in preliminary rullings, in Europe, etc. This is the only casee to progress though a jury trial so far. HTC et al are doing their best to drag these things on forever. By the time HTC’s case comes to trial, they will likely be almost shut down by the competition form Apple and Samesung. Suggest you read some of the summaries on Foss Patents blog site.
Didn’t they also win in Australia, Germany (Pan-European Ban), and Belgium (Also Pan-European Ban) ? They also had a loss in Germany to Moto… But against Samsung?
Different countries have different rules and the U.S. is observing its own set of patent rules. There is no equal legal footing or consistency around the world in court cases be they criminal, civil or patent cases. Why would you think they are? Add corruption and bribery in other places potentially and you have a wildly blind justice scale. The surprise would be every country ruling the same. Hell few courts in THIS country rule exactly the same.
Not true….Apple won a ban of one of those Samsung Galaxy Turds in Australia…
Uh last week…
I didn’t realize The Hague was in California I always thought it was in the Netherlands.
I guess using android has made you so powerful you can transplant entire cities onto other continents (at least in your mind)
Shaun,
Did you realize the name you had picked to use here (an alternate spelling), is the name of one of the most famous sheep of all time? (shaun the sheep)
Therefor I now dub thee “shawn the sheep”
You know, shawn the sheep, karma has a tendency to attempt to give insight and perspective to haters often in unique ways. Your picking “shawn” to use as your forum name, and then calling apple users “isheep” is clear evidence of that fate.
I think perhaps you need to do some serious introspection my friend.
So you belive in hating American originality?
Hey Pat-sy,
FOAESAD!
(Fsck Off And Eat Shit And Die)!
Cheers!
Pat, its ‘per se’ and not per say.
that was TERRIBLE. where did you think that term comes from…
Latin, maybe?
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/per_se
…duh!
I accuse Samsung of limiting consumer innovative choices by coming up with varied unique Samsung devices, instead of merely copying the leader. If Samsung is really interested in real choice and more offerings they need real differentiation. So get real Shamsteal!
‘Samsung continues to resort to copying over innovation in an effort to limit consumer choice to iPhones and iPhone copies,’ Samsung said in a statement. ‘We will continue to take the necessary legal measures to ensure the availability of our innovative cloned products in the United States.’”
FYP
BWAHAHA!
Now why wasn’t this much more accurate press release issued from Samsung HQ instead? “Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain! The great and powerful Slavish Copier of Samesong has… spoooken!”
Go Apple!
You got my full support, bury ScamSung.
That’s ShameScum in Korean.
I’m surprised the DOJ isn’t all over this claiming cheaper consumer products outweigh all others rights and concerns, siding with Samsung. It would be consistent with their ineptness and anti-American business stance under Obama. Samsung is going to continue to play the emotion card and there are many who hear the call who haven’t an ounce of tech history or analytical skills. These are the clueless ones. You can explain it, show the truth, justify but in the end only their own selfish and no sense of fair play geek fantasy’s prevail.
Yes yes, Obama is in charge of every tiny detail in government. Right? He is like God, he knows all and controls every thing. Of course we will not have to worry about such things when your Bishop takes over. The DOJ will then be too busy looking in bedrooms for gays or abortionists. All will be fixed when Brother Mitt is installed. You know Mormons, the only true religion, can talk directly to Angels, sometimes God himself. It is all politics on this forum nowadays.
Yes, this is no small agency of the government doing secret things. Obama would well know of this suit against Apple and could shut it down if he so wanted. The DOJ does get some direction from the White House. You don’t know your government very well. I’m a registered Demcrat a-hole but like most libertards out to lunch you show your biased stupidity in spades. I hold my government accountable unlike you who questions nothing and gets what he/she deserves. I’m not a fan of either party system that I see as inherently corrupt and a shadow of their former selves. Don’t be too proud, you look a fool. You also like to make inflammatory statements that serve no useful purpose but your own wrongheaded ideas and ideals. Think for yourself.
You are a registered Democrat, but you are not a fan of either party? You would want Obama to shut down a suit against Apple because it is Apple? Dude, you sound like Clint Eastwood a.k.a. Nutty Harry. You should go and run a lemonade stand – that, it seems, is a basic requirement from now on to become a US President in this new business-friendly paradigm that the Republicans are trying to establish just to legitimise their obscenely rich, tax-evading venture capitalist candidate.
I want the U.S. to stop suing Apple and the publishing companies because they are promoting Amazon as a monopoly in the process. Aren’t you at all familiar with the case or are you like other techtard trolls here who have contempt or ignorance of facts? Then feel free to comment on things they don’t know about. So Eastwood is in the news so you use him as a wild source of comparison completely irrelevant? Listen asshole, without businesses you would have NOTHING and just be living in a van down by the river (whoops, you already are!). Lemonade stands logorrhea incoherent rambling? Man just go look in the mirror for the real nut bag here. Scary.
Yup. Suddenly, “business’ – whatever you mean by that – is the Saviour.
Maybe you’re talking about the health insurance companies who have been screwing your dumb a**es for decades that are your saviours? Wake up and smell the coffee – the U.S. is the only “progressive” nation in the world that cannot guarantee a decent basic healthcare system for all its citizens because that would mean depriving “businesses” of their profits.
Or maybe the oil companies are the Saviours? They’re already paying laughable amounts of taxes vis-a-vis the money they make.
Or maybe the banks that took their turn at your rears for years before finally crashing your economy?
And let’s not forget the gun manufacturers and sellers. Hey, the right to bear arms – and play Rambo with innocent lives every time it strikes somebody’s fancy. We cannot be messing around with that now. No, no. The Constitution allows that.
Yup. Where would everybody be if not for “businesses”.
Well said!
I really am surprised no bicycle riding, white shirt an tie geeks have not shown up at my door to educate me on the word of Mitt….
Yes, because it makes you so sophisticated to openly demonstrate religious bigotry and intolerance.
hey, not all geeks are like that. Some geeks actually prefer new, original ideas and stuff instead of copycat crap.
Amen, Jen! I have loved Apple long before it was popular and long before the masses. Samsung is truly a nauseating and shameless, revolting company that has convinced me never to buy any of their products.
New, original ideas (perceived or otherwise) in the mobile computing arena has nothing to do with geekiness. What you’re talking about is closer to being a Gadget Lover.
What geeks want is access to the hardware/software they have bought. Then again some geeks (actual geeks, not chic geeks) may actually enjoy having hardware that isn’t locked into Apple’s walled garden of iTunes. I liked my iPhone 3G, but was really put off by imposed restrictions of the functionality of the hardware. The lack of full bluetooth services was a big hit. I also spend a lot of time in two different countries thus requiring TWO iTunes accounts. What a hassle. However, I accepted the limitations and was more-or-less happy.
Recently I got a Samsung Galaxy S. For me and my requirements It Just Works (TM). No hassle going to other countries, I’m not missing out on any applications I need or want, and for a geek, much more access to the nuts and bolts of the platform out of the box. I made the switch and am much happier. Should Apple drop the artificial restrictions they place on their mobile products, I’ll consider going back.
Enforcing IP rights does not limit choice. If you want to know what exactly Apple invented then you can peruse the many publicly available patents or read the publicly available judicial opinion in the Samsung trial. Apple offered to license the disputed tech to Samsung. They could have either licensed it or created a differentiated product. That’s sounds like customer choice.
Exactly, Samsung keeps trying to equate themselves to a some startup who doesn’t know any better and didn’t know they were infringing on Apple’s patents.
Nothing could be further away from the thruth, Samsung has been
patenting everything in their phones, from function to design well before the iPhone even came out. They know how to play the game very well.
The problem is they – like everyone else – were completely blindsided, they never even imagined something that worked like the iPhone so don’t hold pantens on any of it.
if everyone copies one person rather that making their own thing, and does it so well such that there is no difference in products, isn’t THAT what really limits choice?
It appears if you want a sleek portable computer now, you have the choice of a MacBook Air or something that looks nearly identical to a MacBook Air.
WTF kind of “choice” is that kind of “innovation” creating?
WOW. Imagine how much more customer choice there would be if we weren’t stuck buying only the REAL iPhone and iPad versus the plethora of cloned ripoff crapware! Everybody SING with ME!
Imagine there’s no Samsung Galaxy!
It’s easy if you try!
No more Apple ripoffs,
Only innovative stuff to buy!
Imagine all the companies,
Living life in Peace!
Oo HOO oo oo oo.
You may say I’m a dreamer.
But I’m not the only one.
I hope some day Samsung will join us,
And the world of electronic gadgets will be as one!
©2012 Derek Currie 😀
It could happen Samsung! Make it so.
You mean the world of electronic gadgets won’t LOOK all as one!
Oh BRAVO young man! BRAVO!
Samsung :
Unoriginal ideas and products,
Unoriginal arguments.
Gosh, I have more respect for cockroaches than for this Korean copycat scum of a company.
Cockroaches serve an evolutionary purpose. The world would not miss Samsung if they stopped making copycat products.
So Samsung reckons Apple is limiting choice to an Apple branded iPhone or one of the plethora of inferior Samsung branded copies of the Apple iPhone.
Methinks Samsung doesn’t get it, even after the $1.05 billion court case penalty, that arose from the conclusion their phones were copies. 🙂
Seems as though Samsung has not learned their lesson…. At 1billion … Possible judge will send them back to school at 3billion….I wonder how they will like them apples… Pun intended
Samsung: trying to save face even if it means being two-faced.
Samsung is the one limiting consumers’ choices, by not giving consumers real alternatives to an Apple product. Ones that really differentiate themselves from IOS devices. Then again, that would take true innovation wouldn’t it?
NOTE: The source article at Yahoo by By Youkyung Lee of the Associated Press is followed by a BARRAGE of anti-Apple troll comments.
If you’re into pushing buttons for an hour, there are HUNDREDS of ‘thumbs down’ buttons to push over there in order to make it clear that Apple is attempting to INCREASE consumer choice by stomping out clone ripoff leach devices, forcing the industry to actually INNOVATE for a change.
Please join me in kicking Thumbs Down in the face of these ignorant trolls. Thank you!
You’ll also find I tossed some choice comments there, as well as an Apple vs MS history lesson. 😀
I’ve been trying but I can’t keep up with the shallow idiots over there!
I SHUT UP one writer at Forbes touting somewhat similar nonsense by writing to him that if he believed that ‘consumer choice trumped intellectual infringement’ could I copy Forbes subscriber issues and post them in a blog called “Forbes for Free”.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/modeledbehavior/2012/08/27/why-dont-consumers-protest-apples-intellectual-property-bullying/
Simply awesome!
This entire thread has been one of the more entertaining here lately – and almost politics free! 🙂
Haha. Good answer. The young are selfish – its the “I want” generation. Remember, they have grown up stealing music, apps, games – “I want, I take.”
Forbes has some seriously brain damaged writers lately.
Once I stood on top of a building and threatened to drop a PC to the ground if the company I was working for wouldn’t just give a Mac a try. Where were you people back in those days. Zealotry used to be so lonely.
oh yeah, I remember that day.
Very commendable indeed. But, I am surprised it worked with your IT doofus (or should that be doofuses).
doofi.
I think I’m going to sue NASA as they are limiting my choices on interplanetary travel.
(/analogy)
Another famous Beatles song!
♪ SING along with ME! ♫
Cry Samsung cry.
Apple made you pay.
Apple’s smart enough to know better!
So cry baby cry.
Samsung is in their office
Stealing Apple IP for easy profit!
Apple sued their ass off
to force IP leaches to get off it!
Cry baby cry.
Apple made you sigh.
You should have been smart enough to know better!
So cry baby cry.
Stealing ideas from the iPad and iPhone
Made ShameDung lots of dough!
But ripping off other’s ideas
gets you sued, hey don’t you know!
Cry Samsung cry
Apple made you pay.
Who’d have guessed you’re too stupid to do better!
So cry Samsung cry.
Next up are HTC, Google, Motorola
and several more!
Get ready with the lawyers
‘Cause Apple’s got lots of suits in store!
Cry robbers cry
Apple made you sigh.
You’re too cheap and lazy to do better!
So cry sad crooks cry.
©2012 :-Derek Currie
You have ONLY yourselves to blame Samsung.
So boohoo to you. 😥
Now my turn, to the Beatles THINK FOR YOURSELF, which almost needs no alteration:
I’ve got a word or two
To say about the things that you Stealscam do
You’re telling all those patent lies
About the innovative choicy things that we can have
If we close the truth to our eyes
Don’t do what you want to do
And go where you’re going to
Think and innovate for yourself
Or Apple will be there to sue you
I left you far behind
The ruins of your blatant copying you had in mind
And though sued and lost you still can’t see
I know your mind’s made up
Instead of true innovating you’re gonna cause more mimic misery
Don’t do what you want to do
Or think copying is the answer too
Think for yourself
Or Apple will be there to sue the pants off of you
Although your mind’s opaque
Try thinking & innovating more if just for the consumer & your own sake
The future still looks good
And you’ve got time to rectify
All the things that you should
Don’t do what you want to do
Go where you know you will
Think for yourself
Or Apple will give you the suing cold chill
Don’t do what you want to do
Or go where you already went
Think & innovate for yourself
Or you won’t be able to pay the rent
I won’t be there with you
Shamscum is no longer cool
Think for yourself
Or I won’t be there permanently with you
Actually, Apple HAS been kicked out of court skimming there ass’s down the road from every court outside of the US, Japan the latest. Germany halted imports of Samsung until they reviewed Apple’s case, reviewed it, them kicked them down the road too
Pure, adulterated trolling. From an ANONYMOUS COWARD no less! Who’d have expected it. 😆
You FAILed poorly.
Actually all those cass are on unrelated patents. There’s more than one patent involved but you know that right? Right? RIGHT?!
This trial was the very first to get to a jury anywhere in the world. Until or unless there are more jury trials elsewhere I will take every other legal case with a grain of salt.
Singular judges are not as impartial as juries can be.
Steve stole ideas from others all the time… Thankfully he isn’t around anymore!
That’s what your mom said about you last night.
Keep american homes dung-free.
Here’s to the lazy ones.
The dimwits.
The parasites.
The cheapness makers.
The round pegs in the ass holes.
The ones who do things equally.
They’re not fond of laws.
And they have no respect for intellectual property.
You can quote them, disagree with them, glorify or vilify them.
About the only thing you can’t do is ignore them.
Because they steal things.
They push the human race downward.
And while some may see them as the lazy ones,
We see thieves.
Because the people who are lazy enough to think
they can copy the world,
Are the ones who do.
Beautifully done Sam! Hilarious!
Bravo!
Can I steal this?
Outstamding!
Here’s my humble and slight reworking on your outstanding work (without claims of any improvements):
Here’s to the lazy ones.
The serial plagiarists.
The parasites.
The cheapness makers.
The round pegs in their creative bungholios.
The ones who do things only similarly.
They’re not fond of laws.
And they have no respect for intellectual property.
You can quote them, disagree with them, glorify or vilify them.
About the only thing you shouldn’t do is ignore them.
Because they “borrow” things.
They keep the human race backward.
And while some may see them simply as the lazy ones,
We see thieves.
Because the people who are lazy enough to think
They can cheat the world,
Are the ones who do crime.
A little bit better. Both were outstanding and better than song lyrics without music.
What a pleasant civilized thread, a real treat.
Sam you really sung !!!
Awesome sauce flowing from each and every word – Bravo!
i think this needs to be posted many, many times on all the troll threads out there. It captures reality and neatly closes the argument.
Bravo Sam!
I will use this in a thermonuclear fashion.
I fully support Apple going to court to protect their IP.
However the reality is that even when they win, the courts take too long to act and appeals delay the final outcome until the offending devices are obsolete.
Apple need to keep ahead of the competition by continuing to innovate.
A well heeled thief will always look for each and every opportunity to steal and when caught will always blame the victim for their crime. So goes the philosophy of many in our corporate world today.
The word “conviction” is a reference to a possible jury verdict in a criminal case, and is inappropriate terminology for a jury verdict in a civil lawsuit. Samsung was not charged with a violation of criminal law, regardless of what many thought that Samsung’s conduct amounted to.
Absolutely ALL of Samsung’s products should be banned from sales in this country … they have demonstrated that they are not worthy of playing in this market. I could care less if their copycat offerings are not available to select from.
Methinks the (losing) defendant doth protest too much.
“We were framed!”
Android 68% smartphone market share, iPhone 17%. Apple chooses to litigate because they are failing to compete. This isn’t necessarily a knock against Apple, seems to be the American way of doing business. If you can’t beat them in the market, beat them in court.
“If you can’t beat them in the market, beat them in court.”
????
apple has 80% of the profits of the world cell phone market (including dumb phones). All the androids, symbians, Blackberries etc take the rest.
http://www.bgr.com/2012/04/30/apple-samsung-take-profit/
Apple is competing very well except it does not want others copying it.
The majority of Samsung phones are used as feature phones, not smart phones.
It is true that Apple brings in well over 75% of the profits made on the sales of cell phones.
Samsung should do some innovation before they go bankrupt.