“Apple Inc. unveiled Tuesday the latest generation of its iPhone, featuring a faster processing chip, better camera and voice-command capability,” John Letzing reports for Dow Jones Newswires.
“The new device, dubbed the iPhone 4S, will be priced at $199 for a 16 gigabyte version, $299 for 32 gigabytes and $399 for 64 gigabytes, along with a two-year contract from either AT&T Inc., Verizon Wireless or Sprint Nextel Corp.,” Letzing reports. “Apple also will sell an 8 gigabyte version of the iPhone 4 for $99 and offer an 8 gigabyte 3GS for free, also with a two-year wireless contract. Preorders being Friday, with the phone shipping Oct. 14.”
Letzing reports, “The demonstration seemed to underwhelm investors and online tech bloggers. Shares of Apple fell [$17.06, or 4.55%, to $357.54 as of 3:20PM EDT].
Read more in the full article here.
MacDailyNews Take: There are plenty of numbers in the universe. Infinite, actually. Don’t worry, Apple, you won’t run out. Wonder what the mood would be right now had Apple simply named “iPhone 4S” the “iPhone 5?”
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In other news, Sprint.com is also experiencing issues right now. I am having trouble getting pricing for plans.
Android will gain another 10% by Christmas.
iCal that.
Right. Apple is doomed.
If you seriously apple is gonna gain market share by adding an S to a soon to be 2 year old phone, you got some really good weed.
Let MDN iCal it, as they so oft like to do. It’s only 11 weeks away.
And I didn’t say apple was doomed, just pointed our that this announcement will do nothing to change the current trend.
It’s not a 2-year-old phone, troll. It just has the same form factor.
And by “current trend”, do you mean the trend of padding Android’s market share by giving Android phones for little or nothing to people who barely use them? Or haven’t you noticed that iPhone is kicking Android’s ass in actual web usage share?
——RM
New processor, new antennae, new camera, new battery tech…basically everything is new but the case.
… “soon to be 2 year old phone”? About the only parts they kept were the generation designation and the case. OK, sure, it still does all the things it used to do – but faster. It also has some NEW tricks – like Siri. I’m not saying I’ll buy one, but I’ve suggested my “kids” upgrade. (staying with dumb-phone)
Hmmm…
16 month old iPhone 4 is the best selling smartphone in the world.
28 month old iPhone 3GS is the second best selling smartphone in the U.S.
Apple is going to gain share by routinely updating the OS, not the hardware. It’s ALL about the software.
@XS,
Why do you think Android will gain another 10% by Christmas? The iPhone is now available on another U.S. carrier and Apple has provided both a low cost ($99 iPhone 4) and a no cost (iPhone 3GS) alternative with contract. Count me among the members of the crowd who don’t think a different name (calling it iPhone 5) and new aesthetic (the iPhone 4 is only about 16 months old) matter that much. The new specs combined with Siri, ICloud, and iOS 5 make the iPhone 4S quite impressive.
So, they didn’t gain market share when they launched the iPhone 3Gs? Where do you get that it’s nearly a 2-year old phone? Because the form factor is the same? Underneath and inside there are some serious enhancements. As if Motorola and Samsung are using markedly different form factors from handset to handset? C’mon, wake up and smell what you’re shoveling. Most Android handsets are DOA because of Android and it’s poor execution and deployment.
A 2 year old phone?
My man, you seem to be missing the point. If you were paying attention, you should be aware that they retained the exterior design but improved the interior. They replaced the A4 chip processor with the newer, faster A5 chip processor found in the iPad 2. This boosts it’s performance, making it 7x faster than the iPhone 4. On top of that, they have also included little improvements like better camera, built in photo editing and siri integration.
Though the case may be identical to that of the previous, iPhone 4S has taken a huge step forward based on performance.
The processor and internal hardware is what makes a phone as great as it is, the case is nothing more than an empty shell to cradle the motherboard.
Also, last time I checked, Apple’s soon to be 3 year old iPhone 3GS was selling better than the Android devices, making it a free phone will only sweeten the deal for some of the low end consumers.
you sir…. are delusional. That OS is being crippled and pulled apart daily. The Hardware manufacturer’s will cannibalize the OS themselves with all the fragmentation, licensing fees, and lawsuits that they are passing on to their customers in for form of price tags.
Again. Pointing out that this announcement does nothing to address those points that will change the current trend.
If I’m delusional, you just cannot read or comprehend comsource data results.
The current trend? You mean Apple selling more and more of the current iPhone 4’s every quarter, even though it is 16 months old.
And now with iPhone on Sprint, you’ll see Android’s US share drop by the beginning of the year.
The Android OEMs are delusional. They keep shipping more and more phones, while Apple keeps taking more and more profit from the cell phone space. That should not be happening.
Last count, Apple was taking >60% of ALL cell phone profits, not just smart phones.
http://www.asymco.com/2011/07/29/apple-captured-two-thirds-of-available-mobile-phone-profits-in-q2/
Market share without profit is a meaningless metric. That you choose to focus on share shows how little you know about successful business.
The iPhone owns >55% of the total profit earned by ‘smartphones’. THAT’s the metric you should be concerning yourself with.
Not bad when you consider that all iterations of Android handsets are fighting with NOK and RIMM for the remaining <45%.
That’s not so hard to guess, even if there was an entirely new iPhone unveiled today. What most people still don’t realize is the value this new voice command SIRI brings. I have been waiting for such a device that can understand the meaning of my sentence, not just a single word. Apple is a software company that designs it’s own hardware!!! This is by far the best and technologically most advanced software on any mobile device for consumers out there. Apple will do remarkably well with this new phone. The same happened when they released the 3Gs, how many people were disappointed that it wasn’t a 4.
Do I care?. Will order new 4s ASAP.
How jaded are we not to see all of the great stuff in the iPhone 4S, which is decidedly not an iPhone 4 exept in basic design. Plus iOS 5, Siri, 8mpx camera, 1080p Video, etc.? What would an iPhone 5 have this one doesn’t execept a slightly different number? People are stoopeed.
I am so so so disappointed. Yes the 4S got great specs. But there has to be a bigger display as an option. And there should be a redesign that a fanboy like me can buy a new iPhone each and every year. I’ll buy shares instead.
And how much extra would you like to pay for that? $100? $200? $400?
This was, BY FAR, the WORST announcement Apple has ever done. This was worse than MobileMe…. Not even close.
Wall Street seems to think so too…
AWFUL…
And Wall Street is always right…
Wow, obviously you don’t follow Apple’s stock or you would notice a trend. Buy the rumor, sell the news. It normally sells off for a week, or week and half and then starts to slowly rebound. There is a reason why they are the biggest company in the world and bigger than Exxon. Oh and if you watch the Apple events you would notice that Apple’s Safari browser is used by android phones too. So regardless of if they make their own phones, google is still paying them too. For everyone else that likes a droid phone, guess what? Secretly you are an Apple lover. Get over it and just accept it! One more thing, if you like Droid so much why are you on a Mac website? I guess they are still in the closet about their love for Apple. It’s ok, they have help for that. It’s called an iPhone. LOL
Sounds to me like it’s time for you to go Android or Windows Mobile! Clearly, the 4S just isn’t good enough for YOUR high standards.
But have you seen what your vaunted Wall Street thinks of GOOG lately? How about RIMM? NOK give you wood? Brother, NOBODY, but NOBODY is happy right now about ANY tech equity, so get over it.
Why does every criticism of Apple, no matter how justified, result in a foam in the mouth response like “go off to Android” or something equally stupid? Are you just dumb or refuse to face facts?
Because it was a troll not a criticism:
“This was, BY FAR, the WORST announcement Apple has ever done. This was worse than MobileMe…. Not even close.
Wall Street seems to think so too…
AWFUL…”
Use your brain BLN. (if you can)
By the standards of Steve Jobs and Apple and what we’ve come to know as Steve’s keynotes it was a disappointing presentation. There was nothing revolutionary introduced today. By his high standards, the presentation was at a level that matched that of MobileMe, in other words a decent stab at a product that was uninspiring. We expect better from Apple.
I’ve been disappointed many, many times with Apples announcements regardless of who delivered but in the end they’ve always been good enough. Actually can’t remember when Steve gave me everything I wanted.
dude, fire up a couple brain cells while it was not a great show it was hardly the worst (likely not even in the bottom 5)
I’m neither a troll or a fanboy. I love my Apple stuff and hope my AAPL goes up tomorrow. But it does seem that criticism on this site,as opposed to others, brings out the fangs from folks like you. Nothing personal just an observation. Criticism is not something that someone is supposed to rate or categorize to THEIR liking. So it fits THEIR outlook on something (Apple). Criticism is just someone’s opinion. And everybody has an opinion. This isn’t your personal Apple site. It is open to everyone : those who love and hate Apple. Enough of the “troll” stuff. It does seem rather immature.
Weekend, you need to look up the definition of “to troll” (v) as it relates to posting comments (on sites like this).
Basically a troll is a (usually outrageous or inflammatory ) comment that is posted on a fan site simply to enrage the enthusiasts and prompt counter replies. i.e. they are trolling for replies.
I would tend to agree with you if not for the fact that there is very little criticism in many of the post that you are trying to defend. There is however a lot of opinionated hate (maybe cognitive dissonance also). If a product as advertised or offered does not perform as such then criticism could be warranted. If however a product does not have (on offer) what you want from it no criticism is justified (mummy I want). And as had been stated to ad infinitum, ‘If you don’t like a product or it does not have what you want, go buy another”. In the majority of cases posters opinions matter naught, as the market shows.
But outrageous is from YOUR point of view. From YOUR perspective. I really do not see where win winski’s comment is inflammatory. It’s just an opinion. No different than yours.
Just like I have been saying for months…what non-Apple-fanboy people were waiting for is a 4G Apple phone product not another 3G product. So just like when Apple refused to release a 3G iPhone 2…..The iPhone 4S will be one of the shortest lived iPhones.
lots of pennies today.
The 3GS is still pretty damn popular. The 4GS will be in the market for at least 2-3 years.
And Wall Street is a model to look up to. Err ……
I think the MDN take is spot-on. The only thing underwhelming was how stupid the speculation about the iPhone 5 was, given that so few of its “features” were likely to be realized. The 4S was everything reasonable to be expected in the next-gen iPhone.
http://themacadvocate.com/2011/10/04/the-iphone-4s-whats-in-a-name-really/
One thing to consider too. Knowing they’re keeping the “3” form factor, they HAD to keep this new phone on the “4” form factor. Marketing phones with three distinct form factors would be totally unmanageable (especially if you’re trying to keep 3rd party ecosystem head and shoulders above the competitors’).
And buyers are skipping at least one generation anyway. This is a new phone in all but name & shape.
Re: Wonder what the mood would be right now had Apple simply named “iPhone 4S” the “iPhone 5?”
I wondered the exact same thing…I’m betting it would be a LOT more positively-received…
Apple simply put no thought into redesigning the iPhone 4. They gave it a bump in speed and changed the camera a little, but there was no innovative thought that went into the 4S that wasn’t already there when the 4 was announced in mid-2010.
It isn’t about the name, it’s about the lack of innovative design. They’re going to hang they’re hat on Siri and a slightly better camera? Really?
What has Jonathan Ive been designing for the past 15 months that there’s been ZERO change to a phone design that’s quickly becoming stale?
Nonsense, it is mostly the same on the outside, but all new on the inside. The new inner workings had to be carefully designed and they didn’t just fall appear in the Apple labs overnight.
It’s much harder to sell a better idea than to sell something with more buttons and connectors. It takes intelligence to understand why a better idea is important and it will take time for the various commentators and observers to finally get their heads around what was actually announced.
If you wait long enough, even the analysts will start to understand too.
Maybe they were afraid of having to hit that dreaded “X” number too soon… iPhone X… Radical departure from smartphones of yore …. No need to speak just think it and it is transmitted to the person on the other end…. Old timers complain because without talking they would have nothing to say ….
Man that was a letdown. I was fully expecting Steve Jobs-like fireworks from Apple. Instead we got a Tim Cook inspired damp squib. There’s no fire in the belly any more, just more corporate prancing around with a new focus on materials cost and maintaining the manufacturing line. I’m afraid they’ll slide down the slippery path where Dell hell awaits.
And just how would you know this? Did you learn that a Tim Cook keynote was uninspired by reading MDN’s line-by-line review?
Compared to Steve Jobs’ performance it was insipid, not inspired.
Presentation performance doesn’t drive sales. Customer reactions to the product do.
This iteration of the iPhone will be more successful than any iPhone before it. Period.
If what you say is correct, why bother having a presentation at all? They might as well post the changes up on their website and let the customers decide for themselves. The fact is a lot of people bought into the Apple myth because of Steve Jobs. I know I did – because I admire his presentation skills, and for me, that made the product more desirable.
Hear! Hear!, left nut. You are dead on target.
and what myth was that… exactly? Sounds like you’re saying that Apple’s products weren’t really about delivered substance and goods, but more about slick salesmanship, right? And that you were one of the guys who bought the sizzle while not worrying about whether there was an actual steak on the plate, is that about right? Luckily for you, Apple delivered the goods, or you might have been really fooled…
it is sad that so many have such a focus on SJ. Although he is a great man in so many ways, the products speak for themselves and continue to work beautifully well into the future.
Even without a great presentation, I am buying an iPhone 4S
iPhone 4S is a damn good phone.
Here is why the iPhone 5 business is disappointing:
We know it is coming. We don’t know when. This makes anyone wanting the now infamous iPhone 5 very hesitant to buy an iPhone 4S. This is the source of disappointment. We think “well, can I wait for the 5? or should I SETTLE for the 4S”.
It is psychological, but “disappointment” is an emotional noun
You are so right, still doesn’t change the fact I’m immensely disappointed with the 4s, I did expect apple to go back to the top of the smartphone tree; equal or better the best of android/ innovate and delight; instead all its done is disappoint, my 2 year contract is up and as much as I love my 3gs I now want an upgrade; industrial design, state of the art tech and a bigger screen none of which apple can supply me this year, have no plan B don’t really want android but don’t want 4s either
Why even have a press conference?
Would’ve gotten better press by just updating the specs on the website with the invitation hype.
Sprint has to feel REALLY screwed right now.
BLN:
“why bother having a presentation at all? They might as well post the changes up on their website”
XS:
“Why even have a press conference?
Would’ve gotten better press by just updating the specs on the website”
Do you guys get a master hand out? Because this seems more like talking points than real individual thoughts.
They either work for google or t-mobile.
What about the iPhone 4 being 99 bucks?? The best phone on the market now is dirt cheap and gets all the icloud and iOS 5 goodies. No reason to buy a blackberry or android phone with that price point
Ugh… What were people expecting? It’s twice as fast at downloading, twice as fast processing, 7 times faster graphics, giant improvement in the camera such that I don’t think I’ll be using a point and shoot again, pretty nifty Siri voice assistant that the jury is still out on… There’s plenty new. I’m convinced folks just want it to look externally different so it’ll be obvious that they have one from a distance.
I agree. I like what I see and plan to buy 5 of the new phones. I’m glad the physical shape stayed the same. The teardrop makes little sense for a device used in all four orientations — my bubble level tool would be worthless on it. Wall Street is nuts. When the iPhone 4S gets into the hands of reviewers and think we’ll hear a different tune. Siri is bigger than it’s getting credit for right now.
I’d say Siri, alone, is enough reason to be blown away – AND to call it iPhone 5.
So I suppose Apple.com’s connection problems are being caused by lack of traffic? Come on, the 4S is a huge improvement. There are always scads of people waiting to buy a new phone and the announced improvements will push them to buy regards of the name of the product. Those pushing the stock down are doing it on purpose because they know it will go right back up!
Calm down folks… The sky is not falling and the emperoris stll fully clothed.
…and in gold weave, no less.
If Apple had named this iPhone 4S “iPhone 5”, the reaction would be that it isn’t different enough from the iPhone 4 – and that they should have just called it the “iPhone 4S” … investors would have been similarly ‘underwhelmed’
@MDN,
If they had called the thing iPhone 5, people would be bitching even louder than they are now that they dared call it a 5 without a radical case redesign. Seriously, have you even been paying attention?
The only people underwhelmed by the 4S are the shallow, vapid, ‘judging books by their covers” types. Well, them and fomenting hedge fund managers.
Jeebus, MDN, I honestly thought you buys were smarter than that…
Lessee, twice the processing power, twice the storage, great camera, personal assistant software, major graphics speed… and more battery life. C’mon, it’s damn good.
Hey, MDN what happened to “revolutionary” and “magical”? Phil used these kinds of words. Why not you? Could have saved AAPL.
Did I miss understand this? Neither AT&T or Verizon were able to run the iPhone 5 on their existing network. Was someone dropping their AT&T or Verizon and moving to a Sprint account so that they could use the ultra high features of the not yet released iPhone 5? Idiots.
I may go get some shares again for my grand daughters for Christmas.
The pople who think this announcement is underwhelming must not have paid attention to the part about Siri. Siri is a game changer.
How can people dedicated to reporting this industry be so incredibly childish and short sighted? You think apple.com crashed for no damn reason??
I’m talking to you, MDN.
I think part of why it’s underwhelming is because of the long wait. Had this been released back in June, I don’t think people would have cared as much. Instead, because of the extra delay, people were assuming there would something major that Apple was trying to perfect before the release. Perhaps that was Siri, or iCloud, or maybe Apple still didn’t get what they were working on quite right and so just went ahead with this release.
Either way, I’m pretty happy with this update and will be ordering one on the 7th. But I do wish there had been a redesign. I was never in love with the iPhone 4 design in the first place.
A lot of the iPhone 4S release is really tied to iOS 5, and iOS 5 is similarly tied to iCloud. The answer is probably that both iOS 5 and iCloud simply weren’t ready in July for release, so rather than force something out the door to meet the expectations of third parties, Apple waited until the software was ready.
Just like SJ said several years ago when Apple pulled out of Macworld – Apple is not going to tie its product results to anyone else’s calendars.
Also, didn’t anyone pick up on the fact that Apple held the event at its headquarters and didn’t broadcast the announcement? If a major new iPhone was going to be introduced (like a larger iPhone 5), Apple would have been at a larger venue.
Bingo!
It fits the pattern from 3G to 3GS. The 4S has awesome new capabilities! Apple is just fine.
Sigh…the dream is over…well, there’s always Windows 8/Metro to get excited about…
Metro? Seriously? LOL!
Why not? It’s her money. She can decide what she wants to do with it.
Because metro is an even more horrid OS than android (which is pretty crap on it’s own)
Wow… Shocked at the comments. iPhone 4S is brilliant. Just like the 3G, when it kept the same body, was called 3GS with the speed bump, this makes sense. The body didn’t change so why call it an iPhone 5?
However, unlike the 3GS upgrade, this 4S upgrade is unbelievable… A5 chip, Siri, better camera, world phone…
and iOS5 and iCloud. Give it a break folks. The reactions are simply ridiculous.
Exactly. When the iPhone 5 comes in June and it “only” has a new form factor and bigger screen, then what?
iOS 5, Siri, much better cpu/gpu, dual GSM/CDMA, much better still/video camera all add up to a sirious upgrade.
The iPod touch announcement was pretty much worthless though. They could have at least given that device a new camera and/or 128GB option.
Do those words only work if they come from Steve? If so, we’re done here.
It will sink in – and the stock is coming back now – that with the iPhone 3GS = FREE and iPhone 4 at $99 Apple is taking a big shot at android and going for marketshare.
Surveys say people don’t like their android phones – they get them because they are cheap and available on lots of carriers.
The 4S looks dope – I’m def. getting one – psyched for the new camera and double the speed.
The 8 GB iPhone 4 st $99 will outsell any Android, Win phone, etc. The free 3Gs is likely to be right behind it (and it’s only on one carrier). The 4s will set sales records like no one has seen nor predicts. Siri is a game changer. Wait until the reviews start pouring in. Everyone who is not an iHater will want one. I recall how dire the predictions were for that oversized iPod touch…
Apple’s announcement of the iPhone 4s is exactly what I expected and (on a subconscious level at least) what everyone else new was coming. iPhone 4 design with iPad 2 internals.
No major shock, just as expected.
It is clear Apple will have a design change every 2 models of iPhone (3G to 3Gs, 4 to 4s, each ‘s’ version gaining a speed bump).
Look at the past to see where the future lies.
The entire Internet crashed during this announcement. Almost all the tech blogs had serious problems keeping their live blogs going (although MDN, surprisingly, didn’t seem to have issues when I checked here. Kudos!). Even Facebook experienced significant slowdowns from all the cross-chatter. Images weren’t loading!
So, the anticipation was amazingly high, but when has that been different? Expectations were amazingly high, but when has that been different? Stocks fell during and after an Apple product announcement, but when has that been different?
And they’ll soar again once the sales numbers start rolling in. As usual. As the happy owner of a 3GS, I’m only too happy once again to order an “S” model iPhone. These are the solid models that don’t suffer from any weird hardware issues, overblown or not.
This is nothing more than stock manipulation by many… Bad mouthing the phone so the stock will ride down and then buy and make a mint. Once people see the Siri demonstrated live, they will not be able to resist buying it. No other phone will have it for a long time because of the AI requirement to pull it off…
Apple knows timing. In this case a minor change is announced in mid-October, when the stock marked has had a serious dip every year since 1929. This year the Greek crisis is crashing the Euro as well, and the S&P is seeing it’s biggest drop into bear territory in years. I’m buying AAPL big!
As usual, the nerds here and on other forums can’t see the forest for the trees. MILLIONS of people will buy this. Alone those like me who are upgrading from a 3GS, or those switching from Android or Blackberry, or the MILLIONS who have never owned an iPhone before will eat this thing up. Anyone who has paid even a little attention to iPhone product rollouts knew that exactly this device was to be expected.
You guys really do believe way too many rumor sites. PLEASE get a grip.
Actually I think the real nerds get it. I’m a nerd and I can read specs and compare. It’s all the immature children who can’t understand that this phone is amazingly cool even though it’s not prettier and shinier then the old one.
What the hell did people want?? The mechanical aspects of the iPhone are already amazing so what is not to like in that regard? The new OS is incredible and Siri, if it works as shown, will be more amazing than people right now realize. The camera on the 4S competes favorably with 90% of aim and shoot cameras. And I don’t want a bigger phone, which would have pretty much been required for a bigger screen. The media hypes and when the hype is not met by reality, people get all funky. Maybe the media should go back to reporting facts and editorializing about opinion but STFU when just speculating.
The reaction of many so called Apple fans is quite interesting. It’s as if they really have no idea what’s in the darn phone or not, simply what it is called, what color it is, etc. Maybe it’s true what everyone says, people who buy Apple products aren’t terribly bright when it comes to technology.
The enhancements are not mediocre, they are quite extensive. In particular the camera further solidifies the fact that the iPhone provides by far a better photography experience than the clumsy attempts on Android phones. Bluetooth 4 is there. The A5 processor making the phone run 7x faster than previously, the new antenna that automatically switches between transmit and receive… and on and on. I’m very impressed with the upgrade.
Every time someone says to me “it’s not an iPhone 5” I ask, what exactly is an iPhone 5. Inevitably, “I dunno” is the answer. Well what is wrong with this phone? No intelligent answers.
This is so weird.
I am really disappointed of all who are disappointed!
I call LAME LAME LAME.
Not Apple, all of you who wanna complain on a day and at times like this, and Wall Street people.
LAME.
LAAAAAAAAAME.
(repeat ad infinitum )
OK I said it.
So what specs were people actually expecting that were not included here? Apart from 4in screen with different form factor I am not sure what else was realistically proposed that’s missing.
Anybody who expected anything more than a “4s” is delusional! Look at the history; 3G to 3Gs, 4 to 4s. iCal this, next iPhone will be iPhone 6, as in 6th generation.
This announcement was not worthy of an announcement. Why the invitations? Why the blocking off of store fronts for ‘updates’ for this? Yeah, very disappointing. Apple, for internal, incremental upgrades like this, just post it on your website.
I too am surprised by the irrational desire for something “new” for the sake of new by so many people. The current design is pretty damn great, why change it just to change it? When they have the ability to make it half as thin they’ll do it. We’re not there yet. To hell with the simple-minded “we want new pretty shapes” crowd.
Great…..I hope it underwhelms everyone! That way I won’t have to wait 2 hours in a line up or be locked out of their website when the pre-orders start.
The stupid levels of unachievable hype is due to the rabid blogosphere. Link bait. That’s all that matters. No real journalism, just BS nonsense that is design to feed the beast. Apple released an excellent follow-up product with amazing features – and NOT a mere speed bump. In any normal world without the incessant hype and conjecture – all would have been warmly received. At this point, I have to wonder if Apple’s detractors and competitors weren’t complicit in all of the hype and speculation. Certainly, Apple had nothing to do with it – but if you read the posts here you would think Apple just kicked their dog. Hmmmphf. If anything, all this just turns me off from these so-called Mac news sites.
And the stock rallied into the close (along with the market) to finish the day at $372.50.
“underwhelming?” malarkey. the A5 chip is nothing to sneer at. it’s highly optimized for good battery life but is powerful enough to do voice recognition right there on the phone, which is very processor intensive. and the effect it’ll have on gaming on the device will be huge.
but whatever. these trolls have nothing better to do than write up linkbait, and twitchy investors are twitchy.
BTW, I wonder if MDN or anyone else will do a compilation of correct/incorrect rumors, particularly those who cited “an impeccable source” or something similar?
I’ve had about all I can stand from these so-called highly accurate, never-wrong, guy-in-the-know anonymous sources who never get anything right (and who are never outed).
Getting to the point where I don’t even want to read the rumors anymore. Maybe that’s a good thing . . . . .
If I remember correctly a lot of the headlines stated that the 3Gs announcement was underwhelming. Consumers found out what an awesome phone it was, and it’s still being sold today. If you pay any attention to Apple, you know what they omit from their products is well thought out. If you sum up all the new features they put into 4S + iOS5, Apple once again sets the standard for the competition. Wait for the dust to settle and let the 4S get into people’s hands. The 4S will very likely be the best selling iPhone to date.
the issue i have is we waited 16 months for nothing more then a speed bump and a universal cdma/gsm phone and a few other features.
When we should have gotten an iphone 5 with these features plus a bigger screen and thinner body and more.
Im tired of always using a small screen when everyone else windows and droid have 4, 4.3 and 4.5 and larger screens.
I want a large screen man. the 3.5 was great when it came out years ago but come on its time to offer a bigger screen. Especially after making everyone wait more then a year.
The iphone 4S may have some nice features but it failed in many areas.
That’s called penis envy.
I’m disappointed. I have the 3 GS and was hoping this would be a new phone. I like the feel of the 3GS. Every time I go to the Apple store and pick up the 4 its a no sale for me. It just doesn’t feel right. I’m not the only one I know that won’t buy the 4
@joe
I had the 3Gs and loved it for the same reason, but the 4 packs so much more performance. If you are on your phone a lot for work- efficiency is everything and the 4 screams compared to the 3Gs… and the 4S is up to 2x faster chip and 7x graphics… oh yeah, the upgrade is worth it.
Underwhelms is an understatement!
The jump from the 3G to 3GS was less significant than jump from the 4 to the 4S and yet I don’t recall anyone freaking out over that. Where’s the law that says Apple has to completely revamp their hardware every 12 months? That’s just a techblog/rumor mill expectation that’s gotten out of hand. I’d still prefer to use the original iPhone running iOS 2 over some Android piece of garbage any day.
Before everybody gets so underwhelmed that they fall asleep at the wheel, let’s just pick one up and tell it to take a letter, make reservations, remind us to get creamer when at the store,and email all our friends with the crisp photo of the rainbow we just took. Let’s just get real for a moment and realize that the very best phone there ever was just got greater, faster and for some cheaper.
Disappointed that all the goodies you could ever want didn’t all come at once today? Whaaaa! Get over it! It’s still the greatest piece of hardware/ software combination ever devised and will blow the competition away. While everyone is scrambling to “multitouch”
Apple says now you just have to talk to it, and barely touch it at all.
They moved the high bar again and all the complainers don’t even know where to look.
The tipping point for me was the antenna. Looks the same as the iP4 but it’s actually 2 antennas for 3G. If/when your hand is covering one it switches to the other. That, and the fact that ATT just converted my one-and-only cell tower from Edge to 3G ( having a different frequency band). If it were still Edge and if the iP4S had the same antenna design as the iP4, I couldn’t use it. I’ve already tried (3 of them in fact) and couldn’t hold a call here at the house (but my 3 3GSs can). I’m going for the iP4S and hoping I can talk with it.
I really don’t think just naming it iPhone 5 would of changed anyone’s mood. People wanted something to show everyone else THEY have the new iPhone. S and 5 on a back of what looks like an iPhone 4 doesnt do that. Changing the physical design does. If apple just made it a round back being a little thinner and did nothing different, people would be raving about it. Literally the only thing apple didn’t do was make the phone look different or give it more screen real estate. Other than that this is everything everyone wanted and expect out of the hopeful iPhone 5. People aren’t seeing how great this new phone is because they cant flaunt it without saying it’s an S.
Right…only the children have to have a phone they can show off. Actual mature adults want an awesome phone that does everything they need it to do. If it can do all those things 2x faster then before, then that’s fucking awesome. Having stuff added on top like Siri is just that much better.
BLN, you sound like someone with an agenda. I’m not against your negative comments so much as the WAY you’re posting them. The level of vitriol you are spewing is the issue.
And it is nauseating.
Well I for one will be buying an iPhone 4S. My contract is up in December and I will be very pleased to get an A5 powered iPhone.
Fantastic phone, fantastic form factor – if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it. iPhone 4/4S are a perfect form factor. The weight, the size, it almost feels like a piece of jewellery.
Hey, guess what, everybody? They’re following the same pattern they used with the 3G to 3Gs. Who cares what number it is? What matters is how it actually works when I use it. And from what I’ve seen, how it works will be much faster than the phone I have now.
My guess is there’s no new form factor because something wasn’t right to release it yet.
I’ve bought every generation iPhone however this time apple Failed big time and there is no way I would buy the same phone as almost a year and half ago with couple upgrades of camera and a5 chip. apple has so much time to build a better product perhaps a larger screen? its just puzzling to me as to what in the world were they busy with?? o I think I know what they were busy with they were suing other companies instead of concentrating on to build something better for the costumers. after almost a year and half the same phone with upgraded chip?? I for one am surely not getting this and most likely will try a new windows phone or android i’m pretty sure most people share my thoughts and for someone to upgrade from an existing iphone 4 to this is just plain stup*d in my opinion. Apple shouldn’t get to confident to let its user down like they’d lose customers just as fast as how fast they gained costumer base for ios example being me who bought every gen iphone and didn’t think I would be saying that today what a big let down apple!
Poor little baby, didn’t get the bigger screen he wanted!
Grow up. This was a major upgrade, a maturation of an already great phone, loading it up with software that will revolutionize how we use our phones – again!
This phone is going to fly off the shelves.
“Better for the customers”? What could be better than a voice control AI that holds the promise of eliminating texting while driving?
Get a life!
All you stupid idiots that think nothing is new or better, GO BACK TO ANDROID AND OTHER LOWLY TECH DEVICES THAT FAIL AND THAT DONT WORK PROPERLY
Every FK’n year you dumbasses all bitch and whine saying youre not impressed OHHH YAWWNNNNNN
Then guess what? SHares skyrocket higher, and people see the Light. People realize the newer IS the better.
This is simply media hype and regurgitation. A few unlicensed “journalists” cry fowl and unintelligent lambs all follow
BAHHH BAHHHH
f off and sit back while us big boys laugh our faces off at your lameness when you realize again and again youre all wrong and apple did us , err did ME good.
dumbasses all of you!
The presentation was boring, should have cut the 40 minutes of sales info down to 15.
Should have spent more time on Siri, iOS 5, cloud, advantage of a5, camera stuff, etc.
Overall what I expected, would have liked a bigger screen.
Will skip this one for the next model-the 16 core, 6″ screen with 8gb of ram and an oven mitt thrown in free ;o)
And Wall Street is always right…
Wonder why we’re in such a financial mess. Hmmmm..
Smart move Apple. No extra major tooling up costs for ‘new’ case.
Lots of clever new stuff. – Better camera, better antenna, SIRI, new IOS blah, blah. In fact the horse power of an iPad2 with a phone in a handy small form. It adds to the life of my iPad 1. I won’t need to upgrade that till iPad 4.
So an iPad Mini in a pocket case. oh and it’s a phone as well.
Still hate it, it just doesn’t dazzle like apple stuff should, so disappointed looks like my 3GS will have to soldier on and hope they launch an innovative iPhone 5 in 6 months time ;( been so looking forward to it until the launch (damp squid). Oh and did I say disappointed!
When have they ever released a new phone 6 months after the old one? Why would you think they’d start now? This is an amazingly huge update to a 3GS.
Still no where near as good as they could have made it in 16 months, samsung and htc seem manage updated phones every 3-6 months
Samsung and HTC shovel out half baked crap every 3-6 months. You haven’t got enough data to support the claim that Apple could have done more in 16 months. Without intimate knowledge of Apple’s R&D department, you’re just talking out of your ass.
What’s in a name? Would an iPhone 5 by any other name smell as sweet? Apparently not. I wonder why Apple even corners themselves with these labels? They don’t do that with iMacs or MacBook Pros, etc. Think iPhone late 2011……hmmmm.
Siri, Let met know when these people have actually figured out the significance of what has transpired today. That you can hold AI in your hand. Explain to these people that it’s not over yet, and with almost limitless server storage, incredible AI, and an incredible processor that no one really understands the workings of, Apple has again changed the world. Send them a text that says they have missed the boat, again. They did not get iTunes, either.
It’s Al Gore’s fault, isn’t it? Didn’t he “confirm” that TWO iPhones were on the way?