“For nearly three decades, personal computer makers thrived by building their PCs around two key ingredients: Intel chips and Microsoft Windows,” David Goldman reports for CNNMoney.
MacDailyNews Take: Garbage.
“It’s an unprecedented success streak in the fast-changing tech market, where new technologies displace old ones in an eye blink,” Goldman reports. “But now, it looks like the “Wintel’ party is finally winding down.”
MacDailyNews Take: Blessedly.
“Hewlett-Packard’s announcement Thursday that it wants out of the PC business is a dramatic confirmation of some grim trends. PC sales have slowed to a crawl, growing just 2% worldwide last quarter and falling 6% in the United States,” Goldman reports. “The bad economy is a factor. But with the growth of Web-based applications, cloud storage, and tablets like the iPad, HP and others aren’t convinced that consumers will ever clamor for PCs again. ‘The tablet effect is real,’ HP CEO Leo Apotheker said Thursday on a conference call with analysts. ‘Consumers are changing how they use PCs.'”
Goldman reports, “Fully integrated hardware and software systems like Apple’s iPhone, iPad and Macintosh are becoming more sought-after in the technology industry. Apple does not break out its segment profits, but it is the eighth most-profitable company on the Fortune 500. That gave Apple — the third-largest and fastest-growing PC maker in the country — grounds to declare the beginning of the ‘post-PC’ era in March.”
“‘I think what we’re seeing — what HP’s move is really about — is the aftermath of the Wintel strategy, in which you give all the profits to Intel and Microsoft,’ said Carl Howe, analyst at Yankee Group,” Goldman reports. “‘Guess what? That model is driving them all out of business,’ Howe continued. ‘It has made companies like Apple look really smart. Wintel is falling apart.'”
Read more in the full article here.
MacDailyNews Take: When we wrote the following a lot of people laughed: As we have always said, even as many short-sightedly waved (and continue to wave) the white flag, the war is not over. And, yes, we shall prevail… No company is invincible. Not even Microsoft. – MacDailyNews Take, January 10, 2005
Who’s laughing now?
Related article:
Apple doesn’t have an iPad strategy, they have a post-PC strategy – April 12, 2011
[Thanks to MacDailyNews Reader “Ellis D.” for the heads up.]
Good RIDENCE!
Yeah, and riddance, too!
Just goes to show you how far ahead Apple is in their thinking and vision.
Steve Jobs got it right a long time ago, first with the iPod, iPhone and now iPad. By contrast Apotheker et.al. basically clueless when it comes to matching anticipated consumer needs with functional, fully integrated devices.
“Just goes to show you how far ahead Apple is in their thinking and vision.”
And MDN, right in step with Apple.
(That’s gotta be worth a brownie point!)
Evidence we have entered a new POST PC ERA.
“Wintel strategy, in which you give all the profits to Intel and Microsoft,’ said Carl Howe, analyst at Yankee Group,” Goldman reports. “‘Guess what? That model is driving them all out of business,’ Howe continued. ‘It has made companies like Apple look really smart. Wintel is falling apart.’””
“It has made companies like Apple” – I am not an native English speaker, but doesn’t phrases like “tablets like the iPad” imply that there are some other companies like Apple and other profit-driving tablets?
This is inaccurate me thinks, or have I missed something?
In proper English, you should say “I think” NOT “me thinks”. Only morons with no education use “me thinks”. I really makes the person sound stupid when using “me thinks”. English just seems to be going down the toilet and it’s sad to watch.
“The lady doth protest too much, methinks.” Shakespeare (Hamlet)
I’m sorry, you were saying?
@I think NOT me thinks
Friday, August 19, 2011 – 11:30 pm · Reply
I believe that Melonsoda said he/she is not a native English speaker and nevertheless you comment, implied that Melonsoda was stupid uneducated moron.
To begin with that comment makes you a shithead!
Educated people occassionally use “me thinks” in mimicking an old English style!
To write the comment you did, in response to “me thinks” makes you a dick and a fool
That’s what me thinks, asshole.
Zeus- that was spot on, old chap! (a bit harsh, but not too harsh)
English dorks!
Methinks you are a dolt for correcting a non-error.
Methinks you should read a little Shakespeare.
Methinks that then you will be a reformed dolt.
@I think NOT me thinks
Methinks that it should be, “It really makes”, not “I really makes”. If one is going to criticize the grammar of another, it might behoove one to ensure that there own is correct.
That being said, @Melonsoda, it should be “but don’t phrases”, not “but doesn’t phrases” (do not, instead of does not). I don’t point this out to be condescending; just correcting a common grammatical mistake. If in doubt, don’t use the contractions – it makes it easier to determine the correct word. Another trick is to further simplify the sentence by removing the negatives. Would you say “but do phrases” or “but does phrases”? Once you figure that part out, it’s easier to add the ‘nots’.
And, might I add that I completely agreed with your comments?.
I don’t know what your native language is, but I know for a fact that I would not have been able to express anything as coherent in your own language, as you did in mine. Thank you.
@botoncandy
“If one is going to criticize the grammar of another, it might behoove one to ensure that there own is correct.”
Just letting you off with a warning this time, sir. Next time, try to be more careful.
Good point. Apple has been on its own for a very long time in changing the way people think.
“Hewlett-Packard’s announcement Thursday that it wants out of the PC business is a dramatic confirmation of some grim trends.”
It may be a “grim” trend for the crap-purveyors of yore, but it sure as heck is not a grim trend for consumers.
This is a wonderful, positive evolution, that will enrich the personal and work lives of any tech consumer.
And to see the blind and ignorant resistance to the evolution to better computing, have a laugh at (most of) the comments posted in response to this original story.
The posters tend to be geeks, going on about specs, and how non-Apple companies will sweep in and win the Tablet market through better management and marketing.
And of course there are the Freetard commenters, arguing the opposite, but perfectly illustrating why computer businesses that cannot differentiate themselves from the other assemblers, really should cut their losses and get out of the Win-Tel PC business.
Apple is here. Geeks and Freetards are not going to keep the other companies afloat.
Told co-workers in 2005 the same thing, just based on my own experiences. It was a sleeping giant ready to wake up and take over.
They all said MS was too big, too entrenched and too good to ever have to worry.
Deploying iPads and iPhones now. Mac numbers are growing. Still a Windows shop, but…
Consider that HP’s exit is a godsend to the beady-eyed beleaguered one.
Yeah, the little bugger. All Michael knows is cheap, cheap, cheap. Gawd, I hate his plasticky, crappy machines. Blech.
As it will be to Asian computer manufacturers. I wonder how many American jobs will be lost through layoffs when HP exits the phone, tablet and PC markets. That’s the sad part. Wall $treat will cheer as jobs are nuked. It always does shortsightedly. (Synergies!)
It does show that innovation is disruptive. I salute Apple for executing and innovating, and for creating high paying jobs, all of which union thugs want to destroy.
The political right has done a masterful job of blaming unions for the demise of all that is wonderful in this country. Certainly union thugs deserve much of the criticism. Still in my world union workers such as carpenters, electricians, and many others are among the best workers who take pride in what they do. My father was a union carpenter. He made decent wages and had heath and dental benefits. He raised us and provided us with help for a college education. It is not the fault of the union worker that much of our manufacturing has been shipped abroad. It’s not their fault that they cannot compete with the wages paid in other countries. There has to be someone left in this country to buy Apple products and pay taxes.
And the political left has done a masterful job of convincing you that the right blames everything on unions.
We are much smarted than that.
Sorry, I forgot to put the wink….
😉
At which part – ‘smarted’?
🙂
Those left of the isle don’t have to spew propaganda. One only needs to read the news out of Wisconsin, Minnesota, and a dozen other states.
I think the HP Board will regret forcing their previous CEO to resign and hiring the new guy. The “tablet [iPad} effect” is certainly real. More and more consumers are going to be buying iPads and Macs, versus Windows-based PCs. But NOT all of them. And NOT all PC sales are to “consumers.” Not by a long shot… HP had the pieces in place to reduce their dependence on Microsoft (and Intel), which is what really is holding back the entire personal computer industry (all except for Apple).
Leo Apotheker seems to be taking HP in a direction that makes him personally more comfortable, which is not necessarily where HP should be going.
I thought the same thing, and that WebOS thing didn’t look sooo bad for a first draft, but of course releasing unfinished products is very bad PR. Still, they’re giving up a bit too quickly. Probably there is something behind this story we haven’t heard yet…
I think the background story IS that Leo Apotheker comes from SAP, which specializes in serving the “enterprise” and “IT.” That’s his area of expertise and that’s where he wants to direct HP (and I’m sure he thinks doing so is best for HP), not this “consumer” stuff. But is it really the best move for HP?
I daresay just as Apple should not officially extend into the serious enterprise space (their killing XServes, XSAN, etc is just proof they’re withdrawing from that market), HP has realized it’s not a consumer company.
Of course this could also be the new guy canning the product his predecessor championed (HP bought Palm April 2010, Apotheker was hired in September). Steve Jobs did the same to Newton after returning to Apple.
Apotheker, the SAP refugee, arrives in HP and promptly begins sapping the company. Poetic justice eh.
Ha Ha! remember these things:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorola_ROKR
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPod%2BHP
I wish someone would pass this info on to the people who run IT where I work!
They’ll ignore it. They’d have no fires to put out if they shifted to Apple. They’d be all out of work.
not all of us. Win-Tel at it’s “best”, sucked beyond words. Thanks and good riddance MicroShat
Good RIDENCE? If you’re going to use all caps, at least spell the word correctly. I think Mac users are smarter than that.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Ridence
For decades the Wintel mafia as thrived from the illegal heist Microshit lifted of the Mac OS.
The day reckoning is coming. There is God and he loves me!
Hahaha just outsmarted by a pot smoker. Although I too did not know of the word Ridence.
So wait… there not making any computers or laptops anymore? only software? I can not wait to shove that in my hp loving brother’s face.
“Let them eat cake,” Marie Antoinette said, just before they lopped off her head.
Appotheker says the iPad is having an effect. I agree with that. But that begs the question: why are they exiting this early on a nascent, ascendant market (the tablet space) just as it is getting lift-off? That’s where the biggest money is made, even if you’re not #1!
Maybe he is moonlighting as an MS mole.
As I have said before, both Microsoft’s and Google’s models are like the concubinage or vassalage types of relationship. It is inimical to the whole ecosystem. Slaves and concubines gave up their birthright to innovate while the master gouges on the dependents.
The present economic downturn has clearly panicked many of these companies because they don’t have the cushion of enough cash to ride out of the maelstrom. Apple has a big war chest. When the economy comes around Apple will make people lust for PCs again.
Dang, that new dictionary look up feature in Lion sure came in handy while reading your post.
@MDN Take: “Garbage”
Truer words have never been spoken. 🙂
Or is it half garbage, since Apple took up with Intel for Macs?
Amazing to see the truth finally being uttered in the press.
Steve Jobs had it right from the start. Now the world is just beginning to see out of the darkness. Over 30 years late, but better late than never.
Feast your eyes on this for reminders:
http://www.kuodesign.com/pineapple/coverme/
Dell – HP and others rode the wave and now is the shakeout ….. Dell with the just in time had it going on and it looked like no end in sight but now the smoke has cleared and they can see clearly into the mirror they realize it is over ….. Give HP credit, they are cutting their losses ……
Don’t try to be everything to everybody – rather work the craft you know best!
This is the difference of controlling one destiny and having other do it for you.
MS is not innovating just cloning and dressing up and Intel is going down the same old path. The next gen will be driven by neither companies.
Why is everyone in us anti union? I think there is always conflict of interest . So organize!
Most of them are just clueless and have bought into the lie that fir the US to be competative everyone below the top 2% should live in poverty and be happy for the few table scraps they receive.
Its ok though the coming storm is going to put al of us on the same level soon enough.
Wow, that’s an absolutely SOCIALIST comment if I’ve ever heard one. I’m curious to know about this great storm you speak of… Do you really believe that everyone deserves to be equal?
Everyone is equal when they all go before God on judgement day.
Wait, in the end the poor are elevated to the same level as the rich? Doesn’t this mean God and Christ are pinko commie socialists?
(brain assplodes)
without trying to turn this into some political/religion thread that will surely drag everything down to the pits of despair I just have to say that if you believe we will stand before God then surely you must believe that wealth as we covet it here on earth means nothing to god.
I think it means the atheists and agnostics have a valid point.
When I say the coming storm will make us equal I’m simply saying I believe the country is on the downhill ride and when the system finally breaks we’ll all be dirt poor together huddled around the same fire barrel.
I think we should treat others as we would want to be treated ourselves. If we can do that any equality differences would not exist.
Please don’t confuse anything I say with a political agenda or as supporting any given ideology of any kind. I can’t even take myself that seriously. lol.
@Sam. Equal? No. Just better than you.
Not even Apple, Apple has become greedy, they don’t care anymore about think different, just “my way or the highway” Lion is a mess, now even a simple task like copy multiple files is crippled, there is no Skip/Don’t replace button anymore. They spit on the face of Pro User with FCP X, who btw saved the company when struggling in mid 90’s to keep alive. Pro users spent their dollars to keep Apple alive, and after all these years we don’t have a descent drivers for a Pro Graphic Cards, and now with Final Cut Pro X is a betrayal for all the Hardcore Mac Users that always believe on defeat the Wintel empire. Apple just care about iOS ecosystem because the money, they even low their quality standards, now there is no mac/apple device, that last more than 3 years because Apple wants your money, all of it! I think Apple is becoming worst than Microsoft in the near future.
Bullshit.
Now go fix your registry.
What a clever reply, please don’t think so much you can have a stroke you know.!
When you are King of the Mountain, you spend most of your time and strategy and effort on staying on the top of the mountain.
The seismic shift eliminates the need to be on top of the mountain & the king dies.
At least HP has tons of other products to keep going with and expand; even though they did purge a lot of good engineers and scientists under Fiorina. HP can recover if led right.
Microsoft is a different story; belief, nay obsession with only software.
The sad thing for me is that a lot of software companies have tied themselves and their partners hand and foot to Microsoft code and they will need to consider expanding into Apple’s MacOSX, Unix & Linux if they are to have a solid base into the future.
In 1982 (I think) my parents bought me an HP41-C for Christmas/birthday. It was an amazing piece of technology, and I basically learned how to program with it.
Now I have an HP41-C emulator I use on my iPhone and iPad, for sentimental reasons. How times have changed, and how the mighty HP has fallen….
““‘I think what we’re seeing — what HP’s move is really about — is the aftermath of the Wintel strategy, in which you give all the profits to Intel and Microsoft,’ said Carl Howe, analyst at Yankee Group,” Goldman reports. “‘Guess what? That model is driving them all out of business,’ Howe continued. ‘It has made companies like Apple look really smart. Wintel is falling apart.’””
AMAZING