MacDailyNews Take: US$101 more than the iPhone 3GS with iOS 4 that runs roughshod over it, not to mention also multitasks, has a unified inbox, can Cut-Copy-Paste, etc..
Mossberg continues, “My conclusion is that Microsoft has used its years in the smartphone wilderness to come up with a user interface that is novel and attractive, that stands out from the Apple and Google approaches, and that works pretty well.”
MacDailyNews Take: Exceedingly late Microsoft was forced to design around what their competitors aren’t doing due to not only concerns about infringing upon patented IP — Google seems to have conveniently ignored this not-so-minor issue; a slip-up for which they may someday pay dearly — for which, this time, no badly-written contracts signed by unprepared sugared water salesbozos exist, but also in a vain attempt to differentiate their offering. Why they think a Zune phone will sell when Zunes didn’t is as unexplainable as Kin or, for that matter, Ballmer himself (may he remain Microsoft CEO for as long as it takes).
Mossberg continues, “However, despite having all that time to study its rivals, Microsoft has inexplicably omitted from Windows Phone 7 key features now common, or becoming so, on competitive phones. These missing features include copy and paste, visual voicemail, multitasking of third-party apps, and the ability to do video calling and to use the phone to connect other devices to the Internet. Plus, because it has waited so long to enter the super-smartphone market, Microsoft is starting way behind in the all-important category of available third-party apps. At launch next month, the company hopes to have about 1,000 apps available for the Windows Phone 7 platform, compared with nearly 100,000 for Android phones and around 300,000 for the iPhone.”
MacDailyNews Take: Mossberg, whether he knows it or not, has hit upon the real reason why Windows Phone ’07 works the way it does: Microsoft is deliberately trying to de-emphasize apps, not because it’s a good idea that’s beneficial to the user, but because they have very few developers and therefore no apps upon which to focus. This is the way Microsoft works. Because they’re always late, always copying, they have to do things in certain ways to either skirt legalities (that’s why Windows is an upside-down and backwards Mac, not a pure Mac knockoff) or to avoid market realities (an unassailable everest of 300,000+ apps staring them in the face means they have to try to convince consumers that apps aren’t that important). In reality, however, apps drive smartphone sales. And, Microsoft has no apps. No crystal ball necessary.
Mossberg continues, “In addition, Microsoft, unlike Apple, has ceded prominent home-screen real estate to the phone makers and carriers so they can push their own apps, like subscription-based TV and navigation services.”
MacDailyNews Take: Wait, Microsoft sold out their users, diminishing their experience, in order to satisfy greedy “partners?” So it ain’t so, Walt.
Mossberg continues, “But I couldn’t find a killer innovation that would be likely to make iPhone or Android users envious, except possibly for dedicated Xbox users.”
MacDailyNews Take: Dedicated Xbox users. Those would be the ones who returned their faulty Red Ring of Death pieces of crap four or more times. If you gave up after the third Xbox failed, you’re not dedicated. On the bright side, at least you are semi-sane.
Mossberg continues, “The built-in Office suite… failed to open a simple Word document I tried. Microsoft says this plain document had some hidden corruption, but it opened on an iPhone and Android, and was editable in their Quickoffice app. Microsoft says it is working on a fix.”
MacDailyNews Take: Pffft.
Mossberg continues, “So for now, I see Windows Phone 7 as mostly getting Microsoft into the game, and replacing the stale, complicated Windows Mobile system that preceded it… But, today, I see Windows Phone 7 as inferior to iPhone and Android for most average users… The main feature of Windows Phone 7 is the Start screen, which takes the form of a long vertical list of tiles that can represent either an app or a hub. The phones lack multiple home screens or traditional folders for grouping apps.”
MacDailyNews Take: As one insightful Microsoft insider told us recently, “The whole home-screen tiles idea is to cover for the fact that the app store is a bit on the empty side. So rather than the utility of iOS and Android allowing you to arrange your apps the way you like, WP7 lets you have any home screen color you like, as long as it’s green. WP7 is covering their empty platform with a big green tarp in hopes that you’ll focus more on the hardware choices than the software drawbacks.”
Mossberg continues, “Overall, I can’t recommend Windows Phone 7 as being on a par with iPhone or Android…”
Read more in the full review — in which Mossberg pathologically inserts Android into each discussion as if it’s somehow iPhone’s equal despite the fact that everyone who’s used both knows that is simply not the case (we fear that poor old Walt has developed Android Tourette’s) — here.
MacDailyNews Take: Inferior to iPhone we can understand, but inferior to even Android? The “WOW” starts now. More bad news for Microsoft. Aww, ain’t that a shame? 
[Thanks to MacDailyNews Reader “Fred Mertz” for the heads up.]
I am actually beginning to feel sorry for Microsoft, The unabashed crusher of every competitor in the 80’s and early 90’s.
I am actually beginning to feel sorry for Microsoft, The unabashed crusher of every competitor in the 80’s and early 90’s.
Geeze, it’s getting downright embarrassing to watch Microsoft go down the dumper. Yeah I ALMOST feel sorry for them. NOT!!!
Geeze, it’s getting downright embarrassing to watch Microsoft go down the dumper. Yeah I ALMOST feel sorry for them. NOT!!!
Take it easy with the “takes,” MDN. You might as well call the above “Mostly MDN Commentary (with a bit of Mossberg).” I think there’s a higher word count from MDN than from ol’ Walt.
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I’m (quietly) rooting for Windows Phone “07” to NOT be a total disaster, so that the lazy phone makers who rely on a third party to provide some as critical as their product’s OS have an alternative to Android.
Take it easy with the “takes,” MDN. You might as well call the above “Mostly MDN Commentary (with a bit of Mossberg).” I think there’s a higher word count from MDN than from ol’ Walt.
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I’m (quietly) rooting for Windows Phone “07” to NOT be a total disaster, so that the lazy phone makers who rely on a third party to provide some as critical as their product’s OS have an alternative to Android.
ken1w,
The quality of the insights in the MacDailyNews Takes are significantly higher than Mossberg’s.
If you can’t see that obvious fact, you shouldn’t be commenting.
ken1w,
The quality of the insights in the MacDailyNews Takes are significantly higher than Mossberg’s.
If you can’t see that obvious fact, you shouldn’t be commenting.
@ken1w You have go to be kidding or mentally incapacitated. The MDN Takes are WHY we’re here. Geez.
It’s not the word count that matters, but the quality of the thoughts. MDN’s Takes tell the real story. If you can’t see that, I feel sorry for you.
@ken1w You have go to be kidding or mentally incapacitated. The MDN Takes are WHY we’re here. Geez.
It’s not the word count that matters, but the quality of the thoughts. MDN’s Takes tell the real story. If you can’t see that, I feel sorry for you.
ken1w: You’re really not very bright, are you?
(Can’t wait for the answer.)
ken1w: You’re really not very bright, are you?
(Can’t wait for the answer.)
Excellent takes, MDN. Bravo!
ken1w, Next time try actually reading MDN’s Takes instead of just counting the words. You might learn something.
Excellent takes, MDN. Bravo!
ken1w, Next time try actually reading MDN’s Takes instead of just counting the words. You might learn something.
ken1w,
Is that you Ballmer? You sure sound stupid enough.
ken1w,
Is that you Ballmer? You sure sound stupid enough.
ken1w is a drooling idiot.
MDN’s takes make this article. Without them, it’s just another mediocre review from the overrated and confused Mossberg.
ken1w is a drooling idiot.
MDN’s takes make this article. Without them, it’s just another mediocre review from the overrated and confused Mossberg.
No Visual Voicemail, No Conference calling and it couldn’t read a Word document with OfficeMobile- a Microsoft Word document… the same “corrupted” document was read on an iPhone and an Android phone. The multi-tasking and lack of copy & paste is almost forgivable but Visual VM was available in iPhone 1
But again… another copy-cat multitouch “SuperSmartPhone” that wouldn’t even have been conceived if it wasn’t for iPhone. Tell me again when these patents are supposed to be “protected”.
No Visual Voicemail, No Conference calling and it couldn’t read a Word document with OfficeMobile- a Microsoft Word document… the same “corrupted” document was read on an iPhone and an Android phone. The multi-tasking and lack of copy & paste is almost forgivable but Visual VM was available in iPhone 1
But again… another copy-cat multitouch “SuperSmartPhone” that wouldn’t even have been conceived if it wasn’t for iPhone. Tell me again when these patents are supposed to be “protected”.
Mossberg should have retired years ago and the MacDailyNews Takes are insightful and funny.
More takes like this, not less, MDN!!!
Mossberg should have retired years ago and the MacDailyNews Takes are insightful and funny.
More takes like this, not less, MDN!!!
@ken1w:
Kenneth, what is the frequency?
@ken1w:
Kenneth, what is the frequency?
Come on folks, I was joking around…
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I too come here instead of other news Mac-related news aggregators, because of MDN commentary (as well as the reader commentary).
Come on folks, I was joking around…
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I too come here instead of other news Mac-related news aggregators, because of MDN commentary (as well as the reader commentary).
Hey, Ballmer! Karma’s a real b1tch, ain’t she?
Hey, Ballmer! Karma’s a real b1tch, ain’t she?
Microsoft’s Windows Phone 7 is really bad.
Really bad.
Missing features include:
No Copy & Paste
No full multitasking
No tethering
No ability to connect to hidden wireless hotspots
No Office document security (it can’t see permissions on who should read a document)
No networking sockets
No Voice-Over-IP (eg no Skype)
No videochat
No Flash, No Silverlight, No HTML5 in the browser (you need at least one of these options for web apps)
No universal email inbox
No 3rd party apps can use the compass or video camera
No (well not many) apps
The whole platform is an abomination. It needs to be put out of its misery.
Microsoft’s Windows Phone 7 is really bad.
Really bad.
Missing features include:
No Copy & Paste
No full multitasking
No tethering
No ability to connect to hidden wireless hotspots
No Office document security (it can’t see permissions on who should read a document)
No networking sockets
No Voice-Over-IP (eg no Skype)
No videochat
No Flash, No Silverlight, No HTML5 in the browser (you need at least one of these options for web apps)
No universal email inbox
No 3rd party apps can use the compass or video camera
No (well not many) apps
The whole platform is an abomination. It needs to be put out of its misery.
hmmmmmm well Ken1W I’m afraid you’re right. Most folks over 12 are intelligent enough to read an article and come to their own conclusion. I for one don’t need additional needless vicious commentary to figure out that Mister Softy has performed as usual. I believe that Walt tells us that.
hmmmmmm well Ken1W I’m afraid you’re right. Most folks over 12 are intelligent enough to read an article and come to their own conclusion. I for one don’t need additional needless vicious commentary to figure out that Mister Softy has performed as usual. I believe that Walt tells us that.
weekend,
Mossberg didn’t explain why Microsoft’s WP7 works the way it does, MDN did.
MDN’s Takes aren’t “vicious,” unless you consider the truth to be vicious or you work for Microsoft.
Mossberg has indeed developed a bad case of Android Tourette’s. Still laughing at that one, MDN!
weekend,
Mossberg didn’t explain why Microsoft’s WP7 works the way it does, MDN did.
MDN’s Takes aren’t “vicious,” unless you consider the truth to be vicious or you work for Microsoft.
Mossberg has indeed developed a bad case of Android Tourette’s. Still laughing at that one, MDN!
weekend,
If you’re so intelligent, explain where MDN’s Takes duplicated things Mossberg already explained and where MDN’s Takes offered additional insights that Mossberg’s review did not contain.
Once you do so, you can apologize to MDN and to the rest of us for having to waste our time reading your vapid comment from 10:29 pm on October 20, 2010.
weekend,
If you’re so intelligent, explain where MDN’s Takes duplicated things Mossberg already explained and where MDN’s Takes offered additional insights that Mossberg’s review did not contain.
Once you do so, you can apologize to MDN and to the rest of us for having to waste our time reading your vapid comment from 10:29 pm on October 20, 2010.
actually Ken1w was right. WP7 is no competitor for iPhone, but it is for android. M$ is crumbling but it still has the grip on enterpise and GOOG is eyeing on it. Android is google’s trojan horse, but if WP7 is around that will slow google penetration on the market since WP7 will have better compliance with enterprise “windows” ecosystem.
actually Ken1w was right. WP7 is no competitor for iPhone, but it is for android. M$ is crumbling but it still has the grip on enterpise and GOOG is eyeing on it. Android is google’s trojan horse, but if WP7 is around that will slow google penetration on the market since WP7 will have better compliance with enterprise “windows” ecosystem.
I’d like to see WinPho7 further fragment the gameplayingrobodroid market that Android currently dominates.
I’d like to see WinPho7 further fragment the gameplayingrobodroid market that Android currently dominates.
Weekend,
Fortunarely the world doesn’t revolve around what you want…If you don’t like the commentary don’t read it…
Weekend,
Fortunarely the world doesn’t revolve around what you want…If you don’t like the commentary don’t read it…
Ken1w is right that WP7 is more of a threat to Android than to the iPhone. Another fragmented operating system that handset makers can put on their phones is no threat to Apple, certainly not in the short or medium term. Everyone is still going to develop for the iPhone OS but IF WP7 has some success, some developers may choose to develop for it rather than Android.
Ken1w is right that WP7 is more of a threat to Android than to the iPhone. Another fragmented operating system that handset makers can put on their phones is no threat to Apple, certainly not in the short or medium term. Everyone is still going to develop for the iPhone OS but IF WP7 has some success, some developers may choose to develop for it rather than Android.
I agree with Ken1W that success by Microsoft with their latest phone operating system does more damage to Android than iOS and as a result, I too hope for some success on the part.
I was surprised by the name calling by Jen, Journo, Sammy, and Judge Bork. Wow you people need to take a deep breath, step away from the computer, put down your portable electronic device, and go take a nice LONG walk.
Nice response to these… folks ….Ken1W!
I agree with Ken1W that success by Microsoft with their latest phone operating system does more damage to Android than iOS and as a result, I too hope for some success on the part.
I was surprised by the name calling by Jen, Journo, Sammy, and Judge Bork. Wow you people need to take a deep breath, step away from the computer, put down your portable electronic device, and go take a nice LONG walk.
Nice response to these… folks ….Ken1W!
As MS is playing catchup, Apple’s announcements today further demonstrate how the iPhone further integrates into a user’s computing environment. FaceTime now on the Mac, common touch gestures, and the new LaunchPad that mimics the app and folder method of iOS. Apple users are blessed with continuity of operation unavailable from any other source. From music player, to smartphone, tablet, to laptop, desktop we are seeing a set of unified operating principles that maximize proficiency and ease of use second to none. Gotta love it.
As MS is playing catchup, Apple’s announcements today further demonstrate how the iPhone further integrates into a user’s computing environment. FaceTime now on the Mac, common touch gestures, and the new LaunchPad that mimics the app and folder method of iOS. Apple users are blessed with continuity of operation unavailable from any other source. From music player, to smartphone, tablet, to laptop, desktop we are seeing a set of unified operating principles that maximize proficiency and ease of use second to none. Gotta love it.
I do find it amazing for someone like MDN who feels so obviously superior to go to such lengths to beat down on the ms phone. Just say who cares at let it go at that. Jeez you guys are spiteful. Kinda sad.
I do find it amazing for someone like MDN who feels so obviously superior to go to such lengths to beat down on the ms phone. Just say who cares at let it go at that. Jeez you guys are spiteful. Kinda sad.
Is Mossberg getting some kind of perks for mentioning Android phones as if they’re on a par with iOS phones?
Is Mossberg getting some kind of perks for mentioning Android phones as if they’re on a par with iOS phones?
It’s amusing to watch the tweenager ken1w bashers and the non-worshippers fight it out on an anonymous forum.
It’s amusing to watch the tweenager ken1w bashers and the non-worshippers fight it out on an anonymous forum.
Hey Monkey Boy, Gratzi, Gratzi, Great job Because no Matter how much u Dress up that Turd (Aka WP7) it’s DOA.
May you Remain the CEO of “Microsucks” 4 as long as it Takes.
Hey Monkey Boy, Gratzi, Gratzi, Great job Because no Matter how much u Dress up that Turd (Aka WP7) it’s DOA.
May you Remain the CEO of “Microsucks” 4 as long as it Takes.
MAC makes a phone? With all the hype and excitement around Microsoft’s innnovative Windows Phone 7 super smartphone it’s easy to forget MAC actually makes something other than overpriced, proprietary toy computers running an upside down and backwards version of Microsoft’s venerable and beloved Windows.
Fear not MAC fangirls. Microsoft will soon free you from the overload of apps—who needs 300,000 apps?—and the tyranny of MAC’s lock-in. Now you have a choice, or rather, many of them. And they’re all super fantastic. Because they run Windows.
Your potential. Our passion.™
MAC makes a phone? With all the hype and excitement around Microsoft’s innnovative Windows Phone 7 super smartphone it’s easy to forget MAC actually makes something other than overpriced, proprietary toy computers running an upside down and backwards version of Microsoft’s venerable and beloved Windows.
Fear not MAC fangirls. Microsoft will soon free you from the overload of apps—who needs 300,000 apps?—and the tyranny of MAC’s lock-in. Now you have a choice, or rather, many of them. And they’re all super fantastic. Because they run Windows.
Your potential. Our passion.™
Jen, Journo, Sammy, and Judge Bork: “Oh my God! They killed Kenny!”
Jen, Journo, Sammy, and Judge Bork: “Oh my God! They killed Kenny!”
Almost forgot….
“You Bastards!” lol
Almost forgot….
“You Bastards!” lol
Just to be clear on the “South Park” references in the two posts preceding… They weren’t from Ken1W!…
I should have addressed it as “RE: Ken1W”!
Just to be clear on the “South Park” references in the two posts preceding… They weren’t from Ken1W!…
I should have addressed it as “RE: Ken1W”!
Where’s the keyboard? I thought Mr. Smarty Pants said that keyboards is a must!
Where’s the keyboard? I thought Mr. Smarty Pants said that keyboards is a must!
Yea! Zune Tang® is back! Next to MDN’s insightful and biting comments (saying pretty much what we all are thinking anyway), I love Zune Tang®’s sardonic sarcasm. Keep it up guys!
Yea! Zune Tang® is back! Next to MDN’s insightful and biting comments (saying pretty much what we all are thinking anyway), I love Zune Tang®’s sardonic sarcasm. Keep it up guys!
Great Job MDN !
Great Job MDN !
To get back in the game Microsoft simply needs to be buy China.
To get back in the game Microsoft simply needs to be buy China.
We’re one time machine away from being back in this thing!
Allchin! Ozzie! Get in here!
*looks left
*looks right
Oh no! I’m alone!
[… wow, flashback to Chrono Trigger, from my high school days… gotta play that again]
We’re one time machine away from being back in this thing!
Allchin! Ozzie! Get in here!
*looks left
*looks right
Oh no! I’m alone!
[… wow, flashback to Chrono Trigger, from my high school days… gotta play that again]
NO COPY PASTE!!
Oh wait… don’t forget the battery draining, and download draining over-aggregation features.. once you have all the friendship aggregation running.. you’ll drain the battery and ur account limit very quickly!
NO COPY PASTE!!
Oh wait… don’t forget the battery draining, and download draining over-aggregation features.. once you have all the friendship aggregation running.. you’ll drain the battery and ur account limit very quickly!
Had chance to play with it a few times as a friend is in sales of one of the WinPhone7 handset makers, and must admit it was way better than any of Win’s previous mobile OS efforts. The starting screen is populated bybig tiles that can update the purposed content, eg, social media sites like Facebook, Twitter. Also choosing that tile then unfurled a newspaper-like update of those sites as if it was a-la-mode.
Had to admit that was an interesting tack, and a refreshing difference to iOS, palm, etc. I would put this effort above Android but my sales friend preferred Android, for main reason of apps, which MS can’t win on anyways on launch.
Time will tell, but I call ot straight as is, and WinPhone7 cannot be put aside quickly as an inferior product. It has high potential, and a quite an interesting mobile UI.
Had chance to play with it a few times as a friend is in sales of one of the WinPhone7 handset makers, and must admit it was way better than any of Win’s previous mobile OS efforts. The starting screen is populated bybig tiles that can update the purposed content, eg, social media sites like Facebook, Twitter. Also choosing that tile then unfurled a newspaper-like update of those sites as if it was a-la-mode.
Had to admit that was an interesting tack, and a refreshing difference to iOS, palm, etc. I would put this effort above Android but my sales friend preferred Android, for main reason of apps, which MS can’t win on anyways on launch.
Time will tell, but I call ot straight as is, and WinPhone7 cannot be put aside quickly as an inferior product. It has high potential, and a quite an interesting mobile UI.
And is there two buttons on the phone?
And is there two buttons on the phone?
Agreed, MDN “takes” are why I’m on this site daily. Keep ’em comin’.
As for the W-phone, maybe Microsloth will give up on mobile devices now. Amazing how, after the Kin and Zune, they actually have the balls to put this lame turd on the market. Amazing.
Agreed, MDN “takes” are why I’m on this site daily. Keep ’em comin’.
As for the W-phone, maybe Microsloth will give up on mobile devices now. Amazing how, after the Kin and Zune, they actually have the balls to put this lame turd on the market. Amazing.
Take it easy on ken1w. I like a pithy partisan MDN rant as much as the next Mac user. But they can get a bit over the top and stale.
For instance:
“…Mossberg pathologically inserts Android into each discussion as if it’s somehow iPhone’s equal…”
“…we fear that poor old Walt has developed Android Tourette’s…”
Sometimes MDN is the one that comes across as pathological. Nonetheless, I generally like the MDN Takes. Some of them have been pure genius.
Take it easy on ken1w. I like a pithy partisan MDN rant as much as the next Mac user. But they can get a bit over the top and stale.
For instance:
“…Mossberg pathologically inserts Android into each discussion as if it’s somehow iPhone’s equal…”
“…we fear that poor old Walt has developed Android Tourette’s…”
Sometimes MDN is the one that comes across as pathological. Nonetheless, I generally like the MDN Takes. Some of them have been pure genius.
Aside from all the other points, Apple also does something that “Windows Phone 7 series” (great name, BTW!!) and Android both fail to do:
iOS scales.
Apple has iOS on the iPod Touch, which is now an iPhone without the monthly bill.
They also have the iPhone.
They are now bringing the best elements of iOS, and multitouch to the Macbook line and integrating it into Mac OS X Lion.
Contrast this with Microsoft’s fragmented mess. (1) There is something called a “Zune” that they sell, (2) Windows Phone, very late to the party, (3) Ballmer’s insistence that tablets will run Windows 7, not elements of the same UI that is on Zune/WinPhone. These 3 things have few common elements; in fact it’s hard to tell they’re made by the same company. All the jabber about “deep integration” is gearhead nonsense of absolutely no relevance to 99% of the users.
Ballmer is worth 50 points on Apple stock. Long may he reign!
Aside from all the other points, Apple also does something that “Windows Phone 7 series” (great name, BTW!!) and Android both fail to do:
iOS scales.
Apple has iOS on the iPod Touch, which is now an iPhone without the monthly bill.
They also have the iPhone.
They are now bringing the best elements of iOS, and multitouch to the Macbook line and integrating it into Mac OS X Lion.
Contrast this with Microsoft’s fragmented mess. (1) There is something called a “Zune” that they sell, (2) Windows Phone, very late to the party, (3) Ballmer’s insistence that tablets will run Windows 7, not elements of the same UI that is on Zune/WinPhone. These 3 things have few common elements; in fact it’s hard to tell they’re made by the same company. All the jabber about “deep integration” is gearhead nonsense of absolutely no relevance to 99% of the users.
Ballmer is worth 50 points on Apple stock. Long may he reign!
Welcome back man, we missed you. Nothing better in the morning than your comments and then coffee coming out of my nose.
Welcome back man, we missed you. Nothing better in the morning than your comments and then coffee coming out of my nose.
The people who I really want to mercilessly put the screws to are all the asshats who laughed at the iPhone for not having copy and paste in the beginning, or what they called ‘multi-tasking’. I am laughing my ass off at you.
The people who I really want to mercilessly put the screws to are all the asshats who laughed at the iPhone for not having copy and paste in the beginning, or what they called ‘multi-tasking’. I am laughing my ass off at you.
I read MDN every day, it’s pretty obvious the takes are a little spiteful, I mean they iCal things for later “I told you so” insight constantly, which is often funny later on, but I told you so in itself is being spiteful, but many times right on the money. Overall it is MDN’s soapbox we are partaking of so I do not blame them for their opinion and in fact they back up every spiteful thing they say with some evidence they have found, which is admirable and in my opinion their best feature, whether spiteful or not.
One thing I am sad to see is the Xbox user bash though, yes the hardware started off breaking alot but they have replaced it for me free every time and I think the one thing I can say Microsoft has done well is the way Gamerscore and achievements are done on xbox. I own every console but I consistently come back to xbox because of the achievements, the ease of friend communication on live and well mostly the great games (I don’t credit those to Microsoft though). Either way I will continue to read MDN I just hate to see bash on what seems like the gamers who do like the xbox.
Now if apple ever decides to make a console who knows….
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I read MDN every day, it’s pretty obvious the takes are a little spiteful, I mean they iCal things for later “I told you so” insight constantly, which is often funny later on, but I told you so in itself is being spiteful, but many times right on the money. Overall it is MDN’s soapbox we are partaking of so I do not blame them for their opinion and in fact they back up every spiteful thing they say with some evidence they have found, which is admirable and in my opinion their best feature, whether spiteful or not.
One thing I am sad to see is the Xbox user bash though, yes the hardware started off breaking alot but they have replaced it for me free every time and I think the one thing I can say Microsoft has done well is the way Gamerscore and achievements are done on xbox. I own every console but I consistently come back to xbox because of the achievements, the ease of friend communication on live and well mostly the great games (I don’t credit those to Microsoft though). Either way I will continue to read MDN I just hate to see bash on what seems like the gamers who do like the xbox.
Now if apple ever decides to make a console who knows….
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“missing features include copy and paste, visual voicemail, multitasking of third-party apps, and the ability to do video calling and to use the phone to connect other devices to the Internet.”
VISUAL VOICEMAIL – WTF!
“missing features include copy and paste, visual voicemail, multitasking of third-party apps, and the ability to do video calling and to use the phone to connect other devices to the Internet.”
VISUAL VOICEMAIL – WTF!
Windows Phone 7 is a rush job in order for MicroSoft to stake a claim on some real estate in the telephony market.
Windows Phone 7 is a rush job in order for MicroSoft to stake a claim on some real estate in the telephony market.
Watchout KingMel…people will start dumping on you too rather than commenting on the story.
Watchout KingMel…people will start dumping on you too rather than commenting on the story.
@grwisher
Back in the 1990s Apple worked with Bandai on an ill-fated device dubbed “Pippin.” It didn’t go anywhere. But an iOS-based console is an interesting notion. You could take an Apple TV, add a good graphic card and some local flash storage – baazzinga! It already has the interface hooks for high end motion-based controllers with accelerometers, gyros, and touch-based input.
@grwisher
Back in the 1990s Apple worked with Bandai on an ill-fated device dubbed “Pippin.” It didn’t go anywhere. But an iOS-based console is an interesting notion. You could take an Apple TV, add a good graphic card and some local flash storage – baazzinga! It already has the interface hooks for high end motion-based controllers with accelerometers, gyros, and touch-based input.
No TomTom…
No TomTom…
Krispy Sensitive?
Krispy Sensitive?
James : Fannoy
James : Fannoy
KingMel : You stated it perfectly.
KingMel : You stated it perfectly.
never understood why iPhone does not have a widget dashboard for quick look information – this is the only conceivably good thing about the windows 7 phone…
it would be really nice to have time, date, weather, next calendar appt. a sports score feed widget, to-do widget, etc. dashboard that would pulldown on a downswipe, like the search comes up on a right swipe from the homescreen
never understood why iPhone does not have a widget dashboard for quick look information – this is the only conceivably good thing about the windows 7 phone…
it would be really nice to have time, date, weather, next calendar appt. a sports score feed widget, to-do widget, etc. dashboard that would pulldown on a downswipe, like the search comes up on a right swipe from the homescreen
Re MDN takes. I thought they were pretty good here.
Re MDN takes. I thought they were pretty good here.
The problem for Microsoft is that the more apps that they have the less able and clear the start screen becomes in using them. The disguise becomes a hindrance, not to mention a camouflaged mess, the more you add.
The problem for Microsoft is that the more apps that they have the less able and clear the start screen becomes in using them. The disguise becomes a hindrance, not to mention a camouflaged mess, the more you add.
It is funny that M$ employees had a funeral procession for the iPhone based upon these features, or should I say the lack of these features. Can’t understand M$ employee mentality…they are the ones drinking the koolaid.
It is funny that M$ employees had a funeral procession for the iPhone based upon these features, or should I say the lack of these features. Can’t understand M$ employee mentality…they are the ones drinking the koolaid.
Listening to Walt Mossberg for a Windows Phone 7 review is like going to the Taliban for a Women’s Study course. Walt’s been brown nosing Steve Jobs for years. Go to Ars Technica or Gizmodo for a real review.
Listening to Walt Mossberg for a Windows Phone 7 review is like going to the Taliban for a Women’s Study course. Walt’s been brown nosing Steve Jobs for years. Go to Ars Technica or Gizmodo for a real review.