HP’s forthcoming Windows 7 slate leaks (with video)

A video that appears to be of HP’s forthcoming Windows 7 tablet has been leaked, or trial-balooned, via YouTube:

MacDailyNews Take: If this is the real deal and they actually release that piece of crap, HP’s in even more disarray than we suspect. The only thing Apple has to fear from HP’s Windows 7 tablet is death by excessive laughter.

154 Comments

  1. Oh My!
    You have to maually turn on and off the keyboard!!!!…surely it is smart enough to know if you want to type or not based upon what you touch….typical Windows and their 3rd party conglomerates complete lack of intuition.

  2. Oh My!
    You have to maually turn on and off the keyboard!!!!…surely it is smart enough to know if you want to type or not based upon what you touch….typical Windows and their 3rd party conglomerates complete lack of intuition.

  3. Oh look!!! A CTRL-ALT-DELETE button!! I think M$ should make this mandatory on all PCs with one button. And fast? Is this guy serious? Clumsy, too many buttons, Win 7 is NOT properly written to be a touch OS. MAJOR FAIL! Wow… where can I get a job with gobs of money and still be a dumbass? I’m amazed that these companies survive with such ass backward “innovation”.

  4. Oh look!!! A CTRL-ALT-DELETE button!! I think M$ should make this mandatory on all PCs with one button. And fast? Is this guy serious? Clumsy, too many buttons, Win 7 is NOT properly written to be a touch OS. MAJOR FAIL! Wow… where can I get a job with gobs of money and still be a dumbass? I’m amazed that these companies survive with such ass backward “innovation”.

  5. There is no way this could be real–at least, not current. Maybe they were planning on shipping this PoC before the iPad was released, but since then, they bought Palm and are supposedly building their new “slate” using an evolution of WebOS. HP management could not be quite so myopic as to think this Windows 7 joke is worth selling, could they?

  6. There is no way this could be real–at least, not current. Maybe they were planning on shipping this PoC before the iPad was released, but since then, they bought Palm and are supposedly building their new “slate” using an evolution of WebOS. HP management could not be quite so myopic as to think this Windows 7 joke is worth selling, could they?

  7. We are quick to condem, but the thing that leaps out at me is the speed with which I.E. seemed to be rendering. This is also a function of the speed of your connection, but my iPad is very slow rendering pages in comparison, on a 14Mb down connection. Safari seems to get held up dealing with extraneous ads, figuring out it doesn’t have certain plugins, etc. That HP “piece of shit” was blasting out pages instantly.

  8. We are quick to condem, but the thing that leaps out at me is the speed with which I.E. seemed to be rendering. This is also a function of the speed of your connection, but my iPad is very slow rendering pages in comparison, on a 14Mb down connection. Safari seems to get held up dealing with extraneous ads, figuring out it doesn’t have certain plugins, etc. That HP “piece of shit” was blasting out pages instantly.

  9. Um, correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t this why the tablet pc didnt take off in the first place? Because they tried to cram an existing UI onto a piece of crapware that it was not specifically designed for? This is just a last death gasp for Windows “tablet” PCs likened to a bad horror film, we all knew it was coming, but are still surprised they decided to do it…

  10. Um, correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t this why the tablet pc didnt take off in the first place? Because they tried to cram an existing UI onto a piece of crapware that it was not specifically designed for? This is just a last death gasp for Windows “tablet” PCs likened to a bad horror film, we all knew it was coming, but are still surprised they decided to do it…

  11. frankly I don’t care how fast it renders html that’s a very small piece of a computer. I care about process to process comunication (which is non-exxistant on windows) and speed of running programs. at least on ios u can declare a named shared piece of ram.

  12. frankly I don’t care how fast it renders html that’s a very small piece of a computer. I care about process to process comunication (which is non-exxistant on windows) and speed of running programs. at least on ios u can declare a named shared piece of ram.

  13. Blech. What a piece of crap. Interesting, my iPad knows when I need my keyboard. I don’t need to hit a physical button.

    What they are not getting is that there have been tablets out for what, ten years now? It is the OS and less the form factor.

  14. Blech. What a piece of crap. Interesting, my iPad knows when I need my keyboard. I don’t need to hit a physical button.

    What they are not getting is that there have been tablets out for what, ten years now? It is the OS and less the form factor.

  15. This will once again leave consumers aching for something else; an iPad. I have a feeling the reason HP is using Windows 7 on this tablet is because it is only meant for enterprise accounts that need to maintain some sort of consistency with what’s on the desktop in the office – a.k.a. lazy IT departments.

    @theloniousMac: That web page that loaded “instantly” was a page on another tab. Also, if you notice it took a while for any kind of touch response while the pages were loading. So even if it did appear to load pages quicker, what good is it if you can’t scroll around the page?

  16. This will once again leave consumers aching for something else; an iPad. I have a feeling the reason HP is using Windows 7 on this tablet is because it is only meant for enterprise accounts that need to maintain some sort of consistency with what’s on the desktop in the office – a.k.a. lazy IT departments.

    @theloniousMac: That web page that loaded “instantly” was a page on another tab. Also, if you notice it took a while for any kind of touch response while the pages were loading. So even if it did appear to load pages quicker, what good is it if you can’t scroll around the page?

  17. Ok so all they did was take the Win7 OS (which supports touch screen application) and put it in a smaller touch screen form? That’s it? Why? Why do they think that this will pull users away from the UX that is the iPad?

    Total waster of effort and another example of why companies like hp just don’t freaking get it.

  18. Ok so all they did was take the Win7 OS (which supports touch screen application) and put it in a smaller touch screen form? That’s it? Why? Why do they think that this will pull users away from the UX that is the iPad?

    Total waster of effort and another example of why companies like hp just don’t freaking get it.

  19. @ JT, so right. They will get murdered.

    This is a joke. My guess is HP realizes this, but they need to “get something in the game” until they can turn their new WebOS into a real tablet product. Very short-term thinking — releasing a crappy product in the mean time thinking it will somehow get them ahead.

    I’ve used Windows 7 on a touch-based PC, and it is nothing like the experience on an iPad. It’s much better suited for kiosk-like applications.

  20. @ JT, so right. They will get murdered.

    This is a joke. My guess is HP realizes this, but they need to “get something in the game” until they can turn their new WebOS into a real tablet product. Very short-term thinking — releasing a crappy product in the mean time thinking it will somehow get them ahead.

    I’ve used Windows 7 on a touch-based PC, and it is nothing like the experience on an iPad. It’s much better suited for kiosk-like applications.

  21. @ theloniousMac

    Don’t be fooled by the way IE operates. The app doesn’t render the page until it can render the whole thing, as opposed to drawing in sections as they come like other browsers do. Look at it from the time he actually makes the click, not just the all-at-once refresh.

    Wow, I watched the video again. This thing is a complete catastrophe. At lease Android learned something and copied it from the iPad, like how to operate a keyboard and that FREAKING PULLDOWN MENUS are a lousy idea on a touch device.

    (sigh)

    If it’s real… well, I like their strategy.
    I like it a lot.

  22. @ theloniousMac

    Don’t be fooled by the way IE operates. The app doesn’t render the page until it can render the whole thing, as opposed to drawing in sections as they come like other browsers do. Look at it from the time he actually makes the click, not just the all-at-once refresh.

    Wow, I watched the video again. This thing is a complete catastrophe. At lease Android learned something and copied it from the iPad, like how to operate a keyboard and that FREAKING PULLDOWN MENUS are a lousy idea on a touch device.

    (sigh)

    If it’s real… well, I like their strategy.
    I like it a lot.

  23. LMAO…good god! I lost it the minute I saw the iPhone being used to document this. Priceless!

    When will these people get it? You cannot stuff a golf ball into a garden hose! The Windows UI is NOT FIT FOR A FACKIN’ TABLET! Good grief! Seriously…need to rotate the darn thing to find the right button…TOO MANY!

  24. LMAO…good god! I lost it the minute I saw the iPhone being used to document this. Priceless!

    When will these people get it? You cannot stuff a golf ball into a garden hose! The Windows UI is NOT FIT FOR A FACKIN’ TABLET! Good grief! Seriously…need to rotate the darn thing to find the right button…TOO MANY!

  25. Using a touchscreen to control a cursor with your finger shows the unmatched sheer ingenuity and genius of Windows 7 tablet edition.

    Why didn’t Apple think of this? Also the cntl-alt-del button can be used for rebooting after installing the latest spyware and antivirus definitions. Very handy.

  26. Using a touchscreen to control a cursor with your finger shows the unmatched sheer ingenuity and genius of Windows 7 tablet edition.

    Why didn’t Apple think of this? Also the cntl-alt-del button can be used for rebooting after installing the latest spyware and antivirus definitions. Very handy.

  27. Desktop OS’s are not touch screen friendly because people’s fingers are fat and clumsy. They really need bigger on screen targets, icons etc.

    What I suspect HP will use Palm OS for is a more finger friendly interface on top of Windows 7 for most user level functions like writing, email, picture and music management.

    However if one needs to use Office or any other Windows 7 program, then Win 7 is right there under the hood but a stylus will be needed to gain the fine screen control those programs require.

    The advantage of the HP Tablet will have is the fact that the user will be able to run whatever program they wish, just like a normal computer. Likely Virtualbox and other VM software will work too.

    In fact I suspect Ubuntu will be releasing a speedy Tablet version of their OS so one could rip that Windows 7 garbage right off the HP tablet.

    OS X on a HP tablet is certainly a possibility too, through dubious channels of course.

  28. Desktop OS’s are not touch screen friendly because people’s fingers are fat and clumsy. They really need bigger on screen targets, icons etc.

    What I suspect HP will use Palm OS for is a more finger friendly interface on top of Windows 7 for most user level functions like writing, email, picture and music management.

    However if one needs to use Office or any other Windows 7 program, then Win 7 is right there under the hood but a stylus will be needed to gain the fine screen control those programs require.

    The advantage of the HP Tablet will have is the fact that the user will be able to run whatever program they wish, just like a normal computer. Likely Virtualbox and other VM software will work too.

    In fact I suspect Ubuntu will be releasing a speedy Tablet version of their OS so one could rip that Windows 7 garbage right off the HP tablet.

    OS X on a HP tablet is certainly a possibility too, through dubious channels of course.

  29. The cameras are a problem too. There are several work environments, like court, that will not allow cameras. I am sure Apple will have one the in the next iPad, however they will have to keep a model without them. The camera will keep them out of the enterprise market, one that HP nows rules in.

    He did not show any apps running on it. It would to see how Word preform. That would be a real test on how this is better than an iPad. It would be nice to see what the processor is and the battery life.

  30. The cameras are a problem too. There are several work environments, like court, that will not allow cameras. I am sure Apple will have one the in the next iPad, however they will have to keep a model without them. The camera will keep them out of the enterprise market, one that HP nows rules in.

    He did not show any apps running on it. It would to see how Word preform. That would be a real test on how this is better than an iPad. It would be nice to see what the processor is and the battery life.

  31. The iPhone (and presumably, iPad) configuration utility allows you to disable the camera for enterprise situations where cameras are not permitted – of course this would only apply to enterprise-furnished equipment, not personal.

  32. The iPhone (and presumably, iPad) configuration utility allows you to disable the camera for enterprise situations where cameras are not permitted – of course this would only apply to enterprise-furnished equipment, not personal.

  33. LOLOLOLOL Seriously, I hope they actually release that piece of sh@t.

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  34. LOLOLOLOL Seriously, I hope they actually release that piece of sh@t.

    Even after Steve Jobs holds everyone’s hand and shows them what people want, they don’t have a clue. ” width=”19″ height=”19″ alt=”smile” style=”border:0;” />

  35. NPD says for PC market share they WILL count the HP Slate if it ran Windows just like they count all Win tablets.

    They will NOT count the iPad.
    (Counting it will screw up the myth of PC market share numbers. Many of their customers – PC related firms – use NPD data about market share for marketing, to get bank loans etc)

    A reporter asked if they would count Slate running Web OS (as HP has bought Palm). Caught in the double standard the NPD rep in the video basically hummed and hawed giving no answer…

  36. NPD says for PC market share they WILL count the HP Slate if it ran Windows just like they count all Win tablets.

    They will NOT count the iPad.
    (Counting it will screw up the myth of PC market share numbers. Many of their customers – PC related firms – use NPD data about market share for marketing, to get bank loans etc)

    A reporter asked if they would count Slate running Web OS (as HP has bought Palm). Caught in the double standard the NPD rep in the video basically hummed and hawed giving no answer…

  37. Listen closely in the coming months to how Windozers and Fandroids promote these tablet. Don’t forget how when the iPad was announced, that slates were a dumb idea and who needed one and what did they do that a laptop couldn’t do and blah blah bliddily blah.
    Now, you’ll hear them talking about how ‘awesome’ and ‘incredible’ their new tablets are and how excited they are about as-yet unreleased and un-tested models. It’s hilarious if you call them on it. 8 months ago they couldn’t understand why they’d ever want a tablet, now they’re excited about one that no one has used.

    Of course in the of the iPad, we all HAD used it, in a way. Anyone who had an iPhone or a touch already k ew exactly how it worked. That was a big plus.

    The HP is…. Kind-of a Windows experience, but with a Touch layer slapped on to desktop conventions. You must manually invoke the keyboard. You must use pulldown menus that can run many layers deep in some apps. Sure, you can use ‘all your desktop apps’ but really, how well do you expect them to work in this All Things To Everyone, chimeric beast?

    Personally, I’m thrilled.

    This thing doesn’t have a chance. NO CHANCE.
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  38. Listen closely in the coming months to how Windozers and Fandroids promote these tablet. Don’t forget how when the iPad was announced, that slates were a dumb idea and who needed one and what did they do that a laptop couldn’t do and blah blah bliddily blah.
    Now, you’ll hear them talking about how ‘awesome’ and ‘incredible’ their new tablets are and how excited they are about as-yet unreleased and un-tested models. It’s hilarious if you call them on it. 8 months ago they couldn’t understand why they’d ever want a tablet, now they’re excited about one that no one has used.

    Of course in the of the iPad, we all HAD used it, in a way. Anyone who had an iPhone or a touch already k ew exactly how it worked. That was a big plus.

    The HP is…. Kind-of a Windows experience, but with a Touch layer slapped on to desktop conventions. You must manually invoke the keyboard. You must use pulldown menus that can run many layers deep in some apps. Sure, you can use ‘all your desktop apps’ but really, how well do you expect them to work in this All Things To Everyone, chimeric beast?

    Personally, I’m thrilled.

    This thing doesn’t have a chance. NO CHANCE.
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  39. Is that all?… I am not impressed. Retrofitting a desktop operating system meant for keyboard/mouse to a mobile touch device is a slap in the face of consumers who should know better than to fall for its lack of innovation.

  40. Is that all?… I am not impressed. Retrofitting a desktop operating system meant for keyboard/mouse to a mobile touch device is a slap in the face of consumers who should know better than to fall for its lack of innovation.

  41. @C1

    “iPad failure” was the title all over the internet way way back in January. People couldn’t understand how anyone would not just buy a netbook.

    The thing that gets me is SJ has shown other companies what people want and what sells. But, the idiots still do not understand that you can’t just try to port W7 over to a tablet. It has to be an OS built for touch.

    No apps, crappy UI equals crash and burn ” width=”19″ height=”19″ alt=”smile” style=”border:0;” />

  42. @C1

    “iPad failure” was the title all over the internet way way back in January. People couldn’t understand how anyone would not just buy a netbook.

    The thing that gets me is SJ has shown other companies what people want and what sells. But, the idiots still do not understand that you can’t just try to port W7 over to a tablet. It has to be an OS built for touch.

    No apps, crappy UI equals crash and burn ” width=”19″ height=”19″ alt=”smile” style=”border:0;” />

  43. I like how he started his comedy routine, by repeatedly telling us how fast this thing was booting up, contrasted with the video of how slowly it was booting up.

    This kid’s got a future in the entertainment industry..

  44. I like how he started his comedy routine, by repeatedly telling us how fast this thing was booting up, contrasted with the video of how slowly it was booting up.

    This kid’s got a future in the entertainment industry..

  45. Wow, some people that are so used to Windows’ horrible performance that 30 sec+ startup time seems fabulous. I know I wish i could get Vista to startup in 30 sec, let alone a minute or more. I love how they try to cram Windows 7 into a touch device. Instant fail, does HP not realize why Windows tablets sucked before? Idiots. I love the “3 finger salute” button, how quaint.

  46. Wow, some people that are so used to Windows’ horrible performance that 30 sec+ startup time seems fabulous. I know I wish i could get Vista to startup in 30 sec, let alone a minute or more. I love how they try to cram Windows 7 into a touch device. Instant fail, does HP not realize why Windows tablets sucked before? Idiots. I love the “3 finger salute” button, how quaint.

  47. Unbelievable how the scrolling of the webpage simply does not work. It either triggers links or highlights text, but no or very little scrolling…

    This device is wrong in so many ways that it really does not warrant even making it out of the R&D Lab at HP.

  48. Unbelievable how the scrolling of the webpage simply does not work. It either triggers links or highlights text, but no or very little scrolling…

    This device is wrong in so many ways that it really does not warrant even making it out of the R&D Lab at HP.

  49. amazing. the lemmings will love it. I think what we have here is a case of a decent piece of hardware (lets be fair) and how it was crippled by a bit of trashy software and firmware….

  50. Did you guys catch the shot at the iPhone? At 1:58, he says,

    “Sorry about the video quality. I’m recording on my iPhone.”

    My iPhone takes great video. Not sure what this jackass is talking about.

  51. Did you guys catch the shot at the iPhone? At 1:58, he says,

    “Sorry about the video quality. I’m recording on my iPhone.”

    My iPhone takes great video. Not sure what this jackass is talking about.

  52. @ChrissyOne

    Don’t forget how this site was full of knowitalls who said nobody would ever want a touchscreen device “all those greasy fingermarks, blah blah blah”.

    Mainly the discussions were about rumored touch screen iMacs, but nevertheless most of these clueless 13 year olds seem to have vanished in thin air.

    Many of the alleged mac users on this forum seem to be change fearing pc users at heart

  53. @ChrissyOne

    Don’t forget how this site was full of knowitalls who said nobody would ever want a touchscreen device “all those greasy fingermarks, blah blah blah”.

    Mainly the discussions were about rumored touch screen iMacs, but nevertheless most of these clueless 13 year olds seem to have vanished in thin air.

    Many of the alleged mac users on this forum seem to be change fearing pc users at heart

  54. Ctrl – Alt – Del key 😀

    HAHAHHAHA LMFAO HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA… oh my god, Steve Jobs must be laffing his ass off at this Thing 😀 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA…

    Thank you ballmer and HP for making my day through your utter failure 😀

  55. Ctrl – Alt – Del key 😀

    HAHAHHAHA LMFAO HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA… oh my god, Steve Jobs must be laffing his ass off at this Thing 😀 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA…

    Thank you ballmer and HP for making my day through your utter failure 😀

  56. Anonymous “Rockfixer” ironically says: “Many of the alleged mac users on this forum seem to be change fearing pc users at heart”

    The obvious problem around here is the easy or anonymity. I can log out here and pretend to be ANYONE, except of course ACTUAL MEMBERS!

    Therefore, we get coward HIT & RUN trolls in and out of here every day. And, as has been proven to be the case in the past, some of these coward trolls are PAID to FUD us all. It’s the same old story of: If you can’t compete, FUD. The Neo-Con-Jobs have turned it into a black art!

    Solution: I -N E V E R- take anonymous posters seriously any more. If someone can’t bother to actually sign up and log in here, what’s their problem?
    Trolling.
    That’s their problem.
    ” width=”19″ height=”19″ alt=”tongue laugh” style=”border:0;” />

  57. Anonymous “Rockfixer” ironically says: “Many of the alleged mac users on this forum seem to be change fearing pc users at heart”

    The obvious problem around here is the easy or anonymity. I can log out here and pretend to be ANYONE, except of course ACTUAL MEMBERS!

    Therefore, we get coward HIT & RUN trolls in and out of here every day. And, as has been proven to be the case in the past, some of these coward trolls are PAID to FUD us all. It’s the same old story of: If you can’t compete, FUD. The Neo-Con-Jobs have turned it into a black art!

    Solution: I -N E V E R- take anonymous posters seriously any more. If someone can’t bother to actually sign up and log in here, what’s their problem?
    Trolling.
    That’s their problem.
    ” width=”19″ height=”19″ alt=”tongue laugh” style=”border:0;” />

  58. If he’s using it with a plastic screen cover on it, it can’t be a capacitance-based touchscreen – must be pressure-based which is less accurate.

    @Digits McGee,
    I was thinking the exact same thing!
    ” width=”19″ height=”19″ alt=”LOL” style=”border:0;” />

  59. If he’s using it with a plastic screen cover on it, it can’t be a capacitance-based touchscreen – must be pressure-based which is less accurate.

    @Digits McGee,
    I was thinking the exact same thing!
    ” width=”19″ height=”19″ alt=”LOL” style=”border:0;” />

  60. @Derek
    Mmmm…. You are right, they probably ARE pc users ” width=”19″ height=”19″ alt=”smile” style=”border:0;” />

    Like flies, they are not threatening nor dangerous, but irritating and potentially spread disease

    Could be a nice thing to have a forum where you have to register with a real id to be able to comment. And get valid discussions, with opinions based on something else than just a wish to spread fud

    Then again, that would rob us the pleasure of crushing their ridiculous theories.

  61. @Derek
    Mmmm…. You are right, they probably ARE pc users ” width=”19″ height=”19″ alt=”smile” style=”border:0;” />

    Like flies, they are not threatening nor dangerous, but irritating and potentially spread disease

    Could be a nice thing to have a forum where you have to register with a real id to be able to comment. And get valid discussions, with opinions based on something else than just a wish to spread fud

    Then again, that would rob us the pleasure of crushing their ridiculous theories.

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