MacDailyNews Take: Apple’s goals do not include helping Adobe get a good grade. Sorry.
Paczkowski reports, “Consider this exchange between Adobe CEO Shantanu Narayen and Piper Jaffray analyst Michael Olson during the company’s earnings call earlier this week.”
Olsen: Just one quick one regarding the Apple stuff allowing apps developed with Adobe tools to be used on their devices. Other than being a good headline that kind of helps dissipate some of the clouds that are on that issue, do you believe it actually changes the demand for Adobe Creative products?
Narayen: What we did see was that the day Apple announced the removal of the licensing restrictions that a number of people who had created products using our tool submitted that to the Apple Store and were approved. I think it just continues to reflect the opportunity which we have with our tools, which is to help designers and developers continue to develop their applications and content in our tools and repurpose it to multiple different output media. In the short run, I would say the impact was muted.
Paczkowski reports, “A ‘muted’ impact. Too bad for Adobe that the same can’t be said of the impact of the company’s latest earnings on its share price.”
Full article here.
Little to help Adobe?!
For years Adobe has done little to help it’s Mac customers and little to help itself keep those who put it on the map.
They’ve been arrogant nasty and unhelpful, now they pay the price of not having loyal customers by reaping the hostility they created.
Little to help Adobe?!
For years Adobe has done little to help it’s Mac customers and little to help itself keep those who put it on the map.
They’ve been arrogant nasty and unhelpful, now they pay the price of not having loyal customers by reaping the hostility they created.
Again, I am thrilled to read how much that worthless shitbag Narayen continues his delusion. Let’s hope he pulls a Ballmer and continues it all the way until Adobe is run into the ground and either ceases to exist, or gets their act together.
Again, I am thrilled to read how much that worthless shitbag Narayen continues his delusion. Let’s hope he pulls a Ballmer and continues it all the way until Adobe is run into the ground and either ceases to exist, or gets their act together.
…”the same can’t be said of the impact of the company’s latest earnings on its share price.”
Incorrect. The earnings were stellar, broke Adobe’s records, as well as analysts’ expectations.
It was the next quarter guidance that was a disappointment. You know, the same thing Apple does every quarter (reports stellar earnings/profits, surprises analysts, then guides low)…
…”the same can’t be said of the impact of the company’s latest earnings on its share price.”
Incorrect. The earnings were stellar, broke Adobe’s records, as well as analysts’ expectations.
It was the next quarter guidance that was a disappointment. You know, the same thing Apple does every quarter (reports stellar earnings/profits, surprises analysts, then guides low)…
Don’t slag Adobe too much. Where would the world be without Photoshop, Illustrator or Dreamweaver? These products are all best-in-class and I use two of them daily. I never needed Illustrator, but I have friends that work magic with it.
Don’t slag Adobe too much. Where would the world be without Photoshop, Illustrator or Dreamweaver? These products are all best-in-class and I use two of them daily. I never needed Illustrator, but I have friends that work magic with it.
I’d rather Adobe get rid of Narayen and hire a CEO who is worth the company’s history. Adobe got its start with Apple, and like a wayward wife, I’d like to see Adobe make up and grow to new heights WITH Apple.
Adobe is a decent company, but has had too many bean counters in control for too long. Remember that Adobe’s Photoshop came from the minds that are now Industrial Light and Magic.
For that alone, I’d like to see the company thrive and get in line with Apple. Getting rid of Narayen in the process of course.
Ano yaro ha kimochi-waruin da!
I’d rather Adobe get rid of Narayen and hire a CEO who is worth the company’s history. Adobe got its start with Apple, and like a wayward wife, I’d like to see Adobe make up and grow to new heights WITH Apple.
Adobe is a decent company, but has had too many bean counters in control for too long. Remember that Adobe’s Photoshop came from the minds that are now Industrial Light and Magic.
For that alone, I’d like to see the company thrive and get in line with Apple. Getting rid of Narayen in the process of course.
Ano yaro ha kimochi-waruin da!
Adobe is a bureaucratic culture of arrogance.nits days of innovation and being a class act have long gone in favor of cut throat mono grabbing strong arm tactics that target…(surprise) the very people and professional users and customers thatvit thinks cannot afford to jump ship or give up their products.
Adobe made a deliberate decision some years back to cut back on new product innovation in favor of protecting and locking up their software and have spent all their efforts on creating bureaucratic hurdles that squeeze customers financially into buggy, useless upgrades and invasive copy protection schemes designed to wreak havoc in users computers, with the intention of discouraging copying and forcing deceptive upgrades of buggy software that never gets supported properly.
Adobe can no longer return to excellence and high quality product innovation – it’s rotten to the core and wreaks of arrogance throughout. Anyone who’s ever called the company for help has witnessed this first hand. Die Adobe, our wish has come true,revenge has long been on it’s way, we gave you enough rope and your dangling……
Adobe is a bureaucratic culture of arrogance.nits days of innovation and being a class act have long gone in favor of cut throat mono grabbing strong arm tactics that target…(surprise) the very people and professional users and customers thatvit thinks cannot afford to jump ship or give up their products.
Adobe made a deliberate decision some years back to cut back on new product innovation in favor of protecting and locking up their software and have spent all their efforts on creating bureaucratic hurdles that squeeze customers financially into buggy, useless upgrades and invasive copy protection schemes designed to wreak havoc in users computers, with the intention of discouraging copying and forcing deceptive upgrades of buggy software that never gets supported properly.
Adobe can no longer return to excellence and high quality product innovation – it’s rotten to the core and wreaks of arrogance throughout. Anyone who’s ever called the company for help has witnessed this first hand. Die Adobe, our wish has come true,revenge has long been on it’s way, we gave you enough rope and your dangling……
You’re dangling…
You’re dangling…
@ DustyMac
“These products are all best-in-class…”
Maybe 10 years ago. Now they are buggy, sluggish, bloated pieces of crap that we are forced to use because there is no competition.
@ DustyMac
“These products are all best-in-class…”
Maybe 10 years ago. Now they are buggy, sluggish, bloated pieces of crap that we are forced to use because there is no competition.
Adobe may have broken records, but as an adobe user of over 10 years, they are headed into a ditch. The CEO does more ish talking than leading, one major product, Flash, is about to become immensely less important, and if you’ve used photoshop since version 3, you see the bloat, and less new functionality it involves as it progresses. Adobe is hanging on for its life is the difference between it and Apple.
Oh yeah, and Apple makes way better creative apps from a developer standpoint, Adobe is klunky. Adobe’s the kind to acquire a company, kill all products except one, then, not develop it well. Apple’s the kind to acquire a company, use all the core technology to it’s fullest, and actually expand and diversify its ecosystem.
Adobe may have broken records, but as an adobe user of over 10 years, they are headed into a ditch. The CEO does more ish talking than leading, one major product, Flash, is about to become immensely less important, and if you’ve used photoshop since version 3, you see the bloat, and less new functionality it involves as it progresses. Adobe is hanging on for its life is the difference between it and Apple.
Oh yeah, and Apple makes way better creative apps from a developer standpoint, Adobe is klunky. Adobe’s the kind to acquire a company, kill all products except one, then, not develop it well. Apple’s the kind to acquire a company, use all the core technology to it’s fullest, and actually expand and diversify its ecosystem.
Well, it may not have helped Adobe, but right after Apple made their announcement I was told to download MonoDevelop and start working on an iPhone app in C#. Works better than I thought it would.
Well, it may not have helped Adobe, but right after Apple made their announcement I was told to download MonoDevelop and start working on an iPhone app in C#. Works better than I thought it would.
Adobe has been a great enabler with their software over the years. So was Macromedia. I sure wish they hadn’t merged and were still in competition, then maybe Adobe wouldn’t have become so lazy.
The same can be said for innumerable US companies and where they are today. I think a lot of smaller companies is more healthy and more competitive than a few mega companies that become “Too Big to Fail”.
Apple is an interesting paradox in this regard.
Adobe has been a great enabler with their software over the years. So was Macromedia. I sure wish they hadn’t merged and were still in competition, then maybe Adobe wouldn’t have become so lazy.
The same can be said for innumerable US companies and where they are today. I think a lot of smaller companies is more healthy and more competitive than a few mega companies that become “Too Big to Fail”.
Apple is an interesting paradox in this regard.
MacDailyNews Take:
Apple’s goals do not include helping Adobe get a good grade. Sorry.
Excellent.
Thank you MDN.
MacDailyNews Take:
Apple’s goals do not include helping Adobe get a good grade. Sorry.
Excellent.
Thank you MDN.
> Apple’s goals do not include helping Adobe get a good grade.
… which is really a shame. The best relationships are win/win, not win/lose. Lately it’s all about Apple vs the world in these Apple blogs which makes for a good headline but really doesn’t help us consumers especially creative pros. As someone who pretty much works day-in and day-out with Adobe products and who loves Mac and Mac OS X, it’s like watching your divorced parents fighting.
Apple seems to care less and less lately about the desktop and its creative pros and consequently Adobe or anyone else they view as a threat. People like to slate Adobe about “going back to its roots” or how they slacked off on moving their products to XCode/Cocoa but what about Apple? Where are Apple’s creative tools? Last I checked, “Lazy” Adobe shipped a bunch of 64-bit versions of its products… c’mon Steve, where’s FCS?