MacDailyNews Take: Ooh, big blow. Give us a call when cascading self-replicating viruses cost hundreds of billions of dollars in lost productivity, data, and time, m’kay?
Full article, which also includes the painfully obvious fact that “simply listing the total number of potential vulnerabilities isn’t the best way to gauge the relative security or insecurity of a computer, because some vulnerabilities may be more prevalent than others. So Secunia is not saying that Apple products are less secure than other products” here.
Are you telling me that Secunia is the lone authority on this subject?… I think not!
I just read that the first military invasion of Earth from outer space is due to start next Tuesday morning. Yipes! It must be true because I saw it on the internet!
@acid
“a postulate without proof”
Postulates don’t need proof.
Just sayin’
Secunia, PROVE IT!!!!!!!!
How many security breaches has Apple had? ZERO! How many viruses does OSX have? ZERO!!
So where and how do you come up with these results when Winblows 7 has already been compromised several times causing thousands of PC’s to go down! How many Macs were effected? ZERO!!!!!!!!!
Secunia is FUD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And a Ferrari can have a wreck just like a Kia. So what?
What happens when people and corporations switch from Winderze to Apple? They save money and are more productive.
If OS X is so insecure, why did OS 9 and previous Mac operating systems have viruses?
I mean, Macs were able to get viruses when they had 1 or 2 percent of market share previous to OS X — but now they have no viruses with OS X AND a greater market share and we still have some wanting to use the “security through obscurity” excuse?
That just does not make sense.
@Ted: “All at the feet of a advanced pro hacker with the clueless unprotected nieve Mac user with “browser headers yelling “here I am, and I am a Mac ” to any website 99% of Mac owners would do who does not know how to switch his browser agent.”
This “clueless unprotected nieve Mac user” is a professional Unix system administrator in real life. I don’t permit Windows machines on my systems. 99% of Mac owners are smarter than you are. At least they can put together a coherent sentence and use punctuation. Your preferred view that you and the “pro hackers” are somehow above the average “clueless” Mac user is a silly attempt the inflate your own pathetic ego. I hear they have pills these days to make your penis bigger. Try that instead of fantasizing about how much smarter you are than people you don’t know.
SO, basically Secunia is say ( YES AND NO ).
That’s what happens when you become top of the heap. Everyone wants to a shot at you
In the eternal words of Wolfgang Pauli, ‘Das ist nicht nur nicht richtig, es ist nicht einmal falsch! “Not only is it not right, it’s not even wrong!”
How many anti virus/malware!programs exist for windows?
Now how many exist for Mac?
sorry Ted, every year there are dozens of conferences and the goal is for PRO hackers to get in and take control of the Mac, PC and Unix box. So far, no one without local access and sitting at the Mac has been able to get control of the computer and create a self replicating virus.
Frankly, the first hacker who can, will be a HERO in the community. He’ll have interviews on every morning talk show and be on Larry King in days. It is the brass ring goal of every pro to be the first to hack the Mac, and therefore most famous hacker out there.
@bluefinpro
Out of all the family members who have PCs Most of them got powned from the internet. NOT USB key of local hacker.
I always got accused about being an Apple fanboy , now I see how assassin some of you protect OS X like it is Fort Knox. Start listen to security podcasts and wake the hell up.
Browser headers, safari or firefox i-Frame redirect, through a placed bad iFrame ad and a hundred of you guys are powned. The numbers are not there for the pros to spend a week sifting through code to find a safari zero day.
But then you guys are so smart you kept tell me the Mac was stealth when it is not if you are on the net surfing. Remember browser headers…… No but it is suppose to be stealth. no but but
pile on boys and give me there is no virus on OS X BS again.
Vulnerabilities is our key word here not. Arbitrary code execution.
Tell me OS X can’t have arbitrary code execution. Virus, Trojan no known virus on OS X No virus. Are you guys still thinking clicking on the link is the only way to get powned in 2010.
I would just love to see some of you OS X is Fort Knox guys at the Black Hat Conference and go on that network with your Fort Knox OS X. You would get powned in 5 mins on your Fort Knox OS X. There are guys there that eat OS X for lunch.
But remember, these guys are smart and they know if they use their zero day and get caught it is jail time.
@bluepinpro
As for your hacker conference Linux nor Windows 7 couldnt be hacked either. They had to open up to the internet and the browser to hack them all
@El Guapo,
Yes you are right. Guess the “ain’t no” slang style got the best of me. Just tired of people stating their guesses as facts. Should have placed the “without proof” in parentheses. Thank you for playing the editor.
@ Ted
Judging by your execrable command of English, I place little credence in your “analysis”. You make many claims for OS X’s vulnerabilities and yet do not cite any verifiable source for your assertions. Please provide independently verifiable sources for your allegations or kindly STFU.
You make a better idiot than you do a troll – I suggest you go back to shucking fries, a task for which you have already demonstrated a barely adequate grasp, since computer security is clearly well above your limited comprehension of reality
=:~)
Come on Father Ted, tell us are you the PR Guy for Sec…..whoever they are.
Are these pro hackers under the bed with the Russians waiting to take over the world ? must we stand guard at nights in case they attack ?
I read the full article. They are talking about vulnerabilities that are in itunes and quicktime FOR WINDOWS. So the media will be ablaze with this crap because Microsoft can’t make a decent operating system.
Secunia debunked
=:~)
Apple doesn’t brag about security because it doesn’t want to piss off hackers, either. Not that Macs could ever be worse off than Windows- but going from zero viruses to 20 would be disconcerting, and, yes, of course, blown way, way out of proportion. Like this “report,” which is all over the internet. The ant-Apple people do more damage than any real problems or “flaws.”
ANTI-FUD:
I receive EVERY Secunia report they publish via eMail.
Want to know what they publish every week? A GIGANTIC PILE of Windows vulnerabilities and extremely few Mac OS X vulnerabilities, as in about 1 (ONE) per month, at a guess.
This FUD attack by Secunia is made utterly hilarious by their own publications. Don’t believe me. Go look for yourself:
http://secunia.com
Examine the home page. What do you Highlighted see there? Today:
– Microsoft Windows Shell Shortcut Parsing Vulnerability
– Apple iTunes “itpc:” Handling Buffer Overflow [That is SPECIFIC to WINDOWS ONLY[
– Microsoft Windows MFC Document Title Updating Buffer Overflow
Is there ANYTHING there related to Mac OS X? NO!
So what’s with the FUD?
–> The fact that nearly the entire Anti-Malware Community lives off the security FAILures of Windows. Therefore, obviously, everyone MUST USE WINDOWS in order to keep them all employed!
∑ = Pure Adulterated PROPAGANDA
And no folks. There is nothing perfect about Mac OS X security. It just happens to be the most reliable of any GUI OS on the market. The only OSes with better security reputations are:
– OpenBSD
– FreeBSD
And oh look. Mac OS X contains elements of BOTH these OSes.
Hey FUD mongers: GET BENT.
What? Are we back to talking about Mac OS X security?
The “D” in FUD stands for disinformation.
Ted & others: you are not going to heaven.
OS X users click on my link.
http://www.oneitsecurity.it/01/03/2010/interview-with-charlie-miller-pwn2own/
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