Some more analyst reactions:
• Ashok Kumar, Analyst With Rodman and Renshaw: “The iPhone 4 has been in a class by itself in terms of volume. Looking ahead with multiple carrier agreements, the story remains intact. The primary driver will be the iPhone.”
• Brian Marshall, Analyst, Gleacher & Co.: “The Antennagate problem, that’s gonna go away very quickly. I don’t think it’ll have a lasting effect.”
• Yair Reiner, Analyst, Oppenheimer & Co Analyst: “These are astounding numbers and even more astounding guidance. This is one of the few times in recent memory that Apple’s guidance has been ahead of the Street — at a time when investors were getting concerned the iPhone 4 antenna issues could hamper sales. Apple’s sending a strong signal it sees things differently.”
Read more in the full article here.
MacDailyNews Take: Antenna FUD fails. Again:
• Additional testing of Apple iPhone’s 3G antenna again shows completely normal results – August 27, 2008
• Apple iPhone 3G antenna test verdict: completely normal – August 25, 2008
• Apple hit with lawsuit over iPhone’s 3G speed and reliability – August 21, 2008
• Apple: iPhone 2.0.2 Software Update ‘improves communication with 3G networks’ – August 20, 2008
• Apple releases iPhone, iPod touch 2.0.2 Software Update – August 18, 2008
• Steve Jobs: iPhone 3G reception issues affect 2% of total units shipped; software update coming soon – August 18, 2008
• iPhone 3G reception issues could be fixed via firmware update as early as this week – August 18, 2008
• WSJ: Apple preps software fix for iPhone 3G reception issues reported by some – August 15, 2008
• ABC News, Associated Press propagate iPhone FUD – August 15, 2008
• Nomura analyst Richard Windsor and his extraordinary knack for sniffing out Apple iPhone ‘issues’ – August 14, 2008
• Software fix on the way for iPhone 3G reception glitches – August 14, 2008
• Aussie telco source blames Apple secrecy for iPhone 3G reception issues – August 13, 2008
• Apple and AT&T investigating reports of iPhone 3G connection issues – August 12, 2008
@ RickW
> Additionally, will the bumper solution be the end all to those who bought version 1 of the phone.
Some people assume the bumper was the “solution.” For most of the people who already paid for one, it is protection. For the folks who now get one for free because they can, it’s a free gift.
0.55% of the iPhone 4 customers who had to call AppleCare for ANY reason, called because of the antenna or reception. That’s NOT 0.55% of ALL customers (about 1 in 200); it’s 0.55% of the subset of customer who called AppleCare due to some problem they could not resolve on their own. So what is it, 1 in 2000? 1 in 20,000? Whatever it is, the number of iPhone 4 customers experiencing reception issues caused by the antenna is less than negligible. And as for actually returning the iPhone for refund due to concerns or problems related to the antenna, there are probably more customer who returned an iPhone 4 because they decided to wait for the white one.
Therefore, if Apple quietly rolls out an invisible modification, I predict there will be some media coverage, but actual customers will mostly not care because they weren’t having any real world performance issues to begin with, and the superficial signs (the bars on the screen) have been rectified by the iOS 4.0.1 software update.
Reality:
My daughter is married to an AT&T salesman and has not heard of the antenna problem. We even discussed becoming an iPhone family.
What does that mean? That only us techie nerds know about the antenna/bar/gas gauge issue and we are but a tiny part of the market.
Everybody else is buying the iPhone and showing it to their friends how well it works, both as a mobile computer and as a phone. Business users will come around because they have friends, too.
That is why this topic will be moot soon because there is no problem except false reporting from places such as Consumer Reports. CR is for the rest of the market, not for us techies I suppose. Apple may have responded to CR for good reason but then CR became hypocritical jerks by still not recommending the iPhone.
If the iPhone is dropping calls even while inside a case then the cause is NOT the antenna issue. Think about it.
Apple will have hell to pay if they give fantastic guidance while customers are returning their iPhones. I believe Apple’s facts as disclosed in the press conference are accurate and if so it’s just a matter of time before the truth sinks in.
Prediction: next iPhone will have a new antenna design next time or maybe even earlier. I dont believe the current antenna is a functional problem but it is a PR (perceived) problem and I think Apple will place the cell antenna at the top rather than the bottom.
SAYONARA Apple Naysayers, including Dan Lyons (Fake Steve Jobs), TechCrunch Arrington, Gizmodo Clowns, Paul Thurrott, with their hidden agendas, and the many disingenuous or clueless Antennagate Alarmists! The Apple Star Ship is taking off again, and you are not invited for the delightful ride!
@ Justatecfan
<It’s soooooo over for those not having the issue or don’t have one. For those who do not live close to a store, and are busy, it isn’t. Thanks. Just want to get an impartial view of what’s going on from a wider view of folks. Do you return till fixed (because it needs to be) or does anyone with knowledge, and not smart remarks, know when it will be addresses? (something that still exists cannot be over)>
Yea well I can duplicate the problem, and I’ve ALWAYS had bad service in my house with AT&T . . . but I did solve the whole problem. First until you can get a case put some tape over the area . . . I used one of those round bandaids and it worked fine . . . use clear tape if you don’t care to make a joke of it. Then, since I have been bugging AT&T for a few months I called one last time and just said HEY, I need a free Micro Cell because you keep telling me the tower near me is being fixed . . . but it never gets better. I set up the Micro Cell and now I can use the phone without anything on it and never have a problem. If your network is weak . . . the problems will be magnified . . . this is not unique to my iPhone 4 . . . the Samsung and Moto’s we’ve used have all had signal problems.
It sounded to me like Jobs said it would be re-evaluated in September. They probably have a final fix coming that will fill the gap . . . yea . . . sorry about the pun.
@ Wigsey
Get a free MicroCell from AT&T dude . . . bad reception inside a house is pretty common . . . but complain to AT&T about your reception and the 3rd or 4th time you call just say ask nicely for a free credit for a MicroCell and you will get it. Problem solved.
“Apple’s sending a strong signal it sees things differently.”
Hey (Yair)
Why do u think Apple is now the #1 Technology Company Worldwide ?
Yes, its because they See things Differently u Imbicile.
@ The Future
> Ending a phone call by simply touching the hot spot on the antenna is not nothing.
I agree, that would be an issue. But just saying it does not mean REAL iPhone 4 customers are having that problem. Again, 0.55% of AppleCare iPhone 4 calls were related to in any way to the antenna or reception. The morons in the media are reporting this stat as 0.55% (about 1 in 200) of ALL iPhone 4 owners reporting issues related to the antenna. That would be pretty low.
However, it’s really much lower, because it’s 0.55% of the small subset of customers who had a reason to call tech support for a problem they could not resolve themselves. So let’s be generous and say 10% of iPhone 4 customers had to call AppleCare for ANY reason. And 199 times out of 200, those calls were NOT related to the antenna or reception. What does that mean…? 1 in 2000 (not 200) iPhone 4 customers called tech support due to real world issues related to “antennagate.” And I doubt 10% of iPhone 4 customers had a reason to call AppleCare, so it’s even lower than my example. It’s several orders of magnitude less than “trivial.” It’s basically zero.
So I ask you – If iPhone 4 customers were having such issues, wouldn’t they be complaining more about it? Wouldn’t the media have interview after interview with customers returning their iPhone 4 at the Apple Store? They have plenty of interviews with customers BUYING iPhone 4. Wouldn’t they have photos of angry customers lined up at the Genius Bar? The return rate at ATT for iPhone 4 is more than three times LESS than for iPhone 3GS. And that’s returns for ANY reason; I’ll bet “because of the antenna” is not even in the TOP 10 reasons for returning.
> Will you and the other Antennagate deniers admit you are wrong when Steve announces, somewhere around Oct. 1, a real engineering fix
Apple is free to improve the iPhone 4. Apple’s engineers have probably implemented many minor changes during previous iPod and iPhone runs that no one ever noticed. It does not mean current iPhone 4 owners need a “engineering fix” for their current obviously prized possessions. The proof is out there, in the real world, where REAL customers act in their own best interest. In this case, their own best interest is to hold on tight to their iPhone 4 and be silently happy.
So now the 13 trolls that gave Bern posting all the Antenna crap here and everywhere can go home and be their stinkin selves.
For me, antennagate had an upside. Let me explain.
I own a 3GS and have very low reception from my cell phone provider inside the house (everything’s fine upstairs, though). I suppose the closest antenna mast lines up with the houses of my street and there must be a lot of reinforced concrete or other metal stuff in the 3 meters closest to the ground.
But the so called iPhone troubles: “just don’t hold it that way”, apparently also hold for the 3GS.
The solution for me is simple. I used to hold the lower part of my phone, under the assumption that the antenna on the 3GS was located at the top (you could see where it was on earlier models, but no longer on the 3GS). After all I am an electrical engineer and I do expect some attenuation from clutching the antenna side of my phone.
But low and behold, the antenna turns out to be at the bottom.
And I get at least an additonal bar of reception when I hold my 3GS at the middle or at the top. Now I am able to frequently complete phone calls without being disconnected given the low signal conditions inside my house.
Do I feel pissed off because there is also an attenuating effect from holding the phone in a certain way? Of course not, that is to be expected. Except, FULL KNOWLEDGE of the antenna geometry, can be used REPRODUCIBLY to one’s ADVANTAGE in conditions of poor reception.
A true mountain out of a mole hill. Ridiculous.
My full take on it:
The Death Grip Drama Queens
http://jimlynch.com/index.php/2010/07/16/the-death-grip-drama-queens/
Apple Haters after ‘Antennagate’:
‘Damn! Apple is still in business and worth more than Microsoft!’
I’m convinced that my i4 isn’t dropping calls when I get cut off due to antennagate. I think it’s because the proximity sensor allows me hang up with my cheek. It’s the same reason I inadvertently make 3 way calls and send random number tones to the other party during calls. I’ve taken to hitting the home button once the call is established to prevent accidental input and hang ups.
I wish I could press the power button on the top during a call without hanging up.
I brought my iP4 with me to Canada – at least four people wanted to try out whether they could make the ‘bars go away’ by using the ‘death grip’. Well they tried, and all they could do, even by covering all of the metal strip with both hands, was only make the signal drop by 1 bar.
After that attempt, all of them said they were impressed, and were going to buy the iP4 when it goes on sale in Canada.
@ MacIrish
That is exactly why antennagate is soooo over and moot
@ The Future
Take note. This is what Android friends will see.
Maybe the new product will be a Google-ads killer – the feeding machine that keeps morons alive and tethered to Google’s tits.
@ The Future,
An external antenna on a cell phone is not a design flaw. It’s a design choice, a trade off. Better reception vs the possibility of attenuation to the point of dropped calls if you can’t keep your hands off the business end of the antenna.
I am Canadian. 90% of Canada has poor to no cell coverage. In remote areas I use a high gain antenna on the roof and a 3 Watt booster between the antenna and the cell phone. That gives the cell phone 10 times the power to get out and it puts my hands 6 to 8 feet away from the external antenna.
The point is, external antennas good, hands bad.
So, The Future, you are the defective part, well, your hands are the defective parts.
@ The Future
… “No body is paying me, I’m not a troll, I’m not astroturfing.
…
… a huge design blunder caused by Apple arrogance that they could get away with it.”
Well, I can see by your language and vitriol that you are absolutely a Troll.
But you may be right about not being paid. You’re not clever enough to get someone to pay you.
And, “Apple arrogance that they could get away with it.”
Yeah, that’s always been Apple’s way;
constantly making crap products and simply hoping that no-one would notice. </sarcasm>
The Future, we’ve seen some fairly clever Trolls on this site; Trolls that use disingenuousness, strawman arguments, statements with partial truths and critical omissions. Some creative stuff has been posted here.
You too are a Troll, The Future.
But you’re a crappy one.
Geez, you can’t even do “Troll” right.
Can you be good at anything?
If you have a friend, and they’re old enough to drive, maybe you could be good at keeping the passenger seat warm.
Hey, everyone has to start somewhere.
Good luck in the future, The Future.