Eric Jhonsa writes for The Motley Fool, “Everyone and his gadget-loving cousin seems to be arguing these days about whether the iPad will be another hit for Apple, or a dud like Apple TV”
MacDailyNews Take: See, Apple TV, having sold over 7 million units is a “dud,” but that doesn’t preclude Jhonsa from spotlighting Amazon’s Kindle like a star in entire articles about a device that will sell, according to figures quoted by Jhonsa himself: 1.7 million total units in 2009 and 2010 combined. Just to be crystal clear: According to Eric Jhonsa, 7 million units sold means Apple TV is a “dud,” but Kindle, which can’t crack 2 million over two years (despite being routinely touted by many in the media biz as a hit product), isn’t.
Amazon’s Kindle is a sham that’s continually propped up by ignorant, lazy, paid, and/or sympathetic people in the media.
Jhonsa continues, “As far as I’m concerned, Apple ensured the device’s success the day that it decided to have the iPad’s operating system be the iPhone OS rather than a modified version of its Mac OS.”
MacDailyNews Take: Technically, iPhone OS is a modified version of Mac OS X, but we think we see where Jhonsa’s going here as he gets back on track.
Jhonsa continues, “Likewise, Google ensured itself an uphill battle against Apple the day it decided to support its developing Chrome OS for the tablet market in addition to Android.”
MacDailyNews Take: Okay, now Eric’s got his feet under him.
Jhonsa continues, “The brilliance of using the iPhone OS to run the iPad was twofold. First, it makes using an iPad feel nothing like using a personal computer. Microsoft has taken the opposite tack over the years with its Tablet PC software, which does little more than tinker with its bloated, buggy Windows operating system so that it can work with a touchscreen; and the results (or lack thereof) are plain for everyone to see. Giving the iPad an interface that was built from the ground up with human fingers in mind, rather than a keyboard and mouse, means that Apple will avoid the same pitfall.”
“Secondly, choosing the iPhone OS made sure that millions of iPhone and iPod Touch owners who have built large app collections would have a strong incentive to buy an iPad. Right off the bat, these people will have a sizeable collection of software that they can port over (albeit without perfect formatting) to the device using iTunes,” Jhonsa writes. “And as millions of additional consumers buy an iPhone or iPod Touch for the first time in the coming years, this base of potential buyers will grow.”
Jhonsa writes, “Google seems to be taking a spaghetti-on-the-wall approach to the tablet market: Throw some operating systems out there, and see what sticks. Chances are that this strategy in the market’s first years — a lead that it might never relinquish.”
Full article – recommended except for the final six words of his first sentence – here.
MacDailyNews Take: After a weak, illogical start, Jhonsa finishes strong and on target!
[Thanks to MacDailyNews Reader “JES42” for the heads up.]
Amazon’s Kindle is a sham that’s continually propped up by ignorant, lazy, paid, and/or sympathetic people in the media.
Reminds me of our Dear Leader here in the U.S.
When the Mac first came out with the mouse and windows GUI (and MS copied it), that was the first big paradigm shift for computers – going from the command line to the GUI. I have always thought what will replace this GUI as the next big UI and now I feel that now we have the answer. The iPhone OS touch UI. I predict that in 5-10 years the old GUI will go by the wayside in favor of the touch UI.
@Superior Being
Go F@ck yourself. Keep your comments relevant and drop the political diatribe.
So, the iPhone OS will be the Apple of our iPads while Google goes back to the drawing room to polish its Chrome over and over to work with touch?
Sometimes I wonder why these anal-ysts even bother to write articles. But at least he did get to a valid point over all.
And just because Apple views it’s Apple TV as a hobby doesn’t mean that it under performs and I think Apple will finally soon do something with it to take take advantage of it’s capability.
I mean really, what other market is there left to conquor!
SB
I saw the same correlation.
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If you can’t take the humor, stay out of the toilet….or something like that…
@Superior Being
“I have to tell you, you know, it’s part of reporting this case, this market, the feeling most people get when they see Amazon’s Kindle. My, I felt this thrill going up my leg. I mean, I don’t have that too often.” – Eric Jhonsa
“the day that it decided to have the iPad’s operating system be the iPhone OS rather than a modified version of its Mac OS”
Given that the iPhone came out of Apple’s tablet R&D;, not vice versa, I doubt Mac OS was ever in the running.
And it’s time we started thinking of the iPad not as a tablet computer but as an information and entertainment appliance – that’s as reliable and easy to use as any other household appliance.
@StupidIdioter Being,
Yeah, I feel that way about the Bush administration, too.
@MDN Take Re: Kindles
If your product appears on Oprah, it’s a superstar no matter how many you actually sell. That’s the rules. Don’t question them.
It’s true for The Kindle, Obama, Pontiacs, Tom Cruise, rehab memoirs, dieting tips and most of all, Oprah.
So until Apple TV gets it’s day in the Chicago spotlight, it will always be a second rate product compared to Kindle. Deal with it!
This guy is a _writer_ for the Motley Fool?
“As far as I’m concerned, Apple ensured the device’s success the day that it decided to have the iPad’s operating system be the iPhone OS rather than a modified version of its Mac OS.”
“Likewise, Google ensured itself an uphill battle against Apple the day it decided to support its developing Chrome OS for the tablet market in addition to Android.”
Don’t forget “twofold”, “thereof”, and “albeit”.
Dear God, please bring back editors to deliver us from the evil of bad writing!
(Yet they say the old publishing model is dead . . . )
Like I’ve said before all the media set top box makers keep hoping that they can sell half the number of units as Apple as sold Apple TV units. I think the Roku box as sold the most but I don’t think all their media boxes combined would add up to more then 2 or 3 Million. The Apple TV is currently the leader in the category (dedicated Internet Media Players (excluding Game Consoles that aren’t in the category)). Apple hasn’t even really done much, if any real promotion for the Apple TV and it’s sold more then 7 Million Units, by any definition that make the Apple much more then just a base hit.
Apple can just on keep tinkering with it’s Hobby Project the Apple TV they will develop the right formula the right balance and the perfect hardware and when they do everyone will be saying, “where did Apple come up with that idea”. Just the fact that everyone any their uncle is trying to build Apple TV knock off devices means that Apple has a winner. Might not be quit the winning formula for hugh acceptance yet, but neither was the first iPod.
@Superior Being and First 2010, Then 2012:
More hypocrisy:
You see, unproven, unrecorded, concocted reports of racial slurs being made and routine angry answering machine messages (that every politician gets daily) which were made by a handful of crazies are to be made into huge “news” stories.
This is done in order to tar and feather a huge group of innocent, normal, citizen protestors who mainly are interested with not saddling our great-great grandchildren with trillions in stifling debt. It also is an attempt to distract from the huge ill-effects of Obamacare that was just rammed down the country’s throat.
These cases, routine and invented, are all to be treated as major “news,” pasted into headlines and broadcast on TV everywhere, with apologies hysterically demanded of people who did nothing wrong. But things like this aren’t, of course:
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Selective outrage highlights your tremendous hypocrisy, Dems, Libs, and Progressives.
http://www.zombietime.com/zomblog/?p=621
What about the accelerometer. Yes the touchscreen is great, but the accelerometer is the other input device that makes the iPhone, and soon the iPad work so well. One reason the Win Tablet and other small touch OS failed is because they lacked this input device. GUI would have never taken off it only had a mouse and no keyboard. What made the iPhone OS excel where others didn’t is Apple combined the two.
First 2010, then 2010: Good one.
Jen: Exactly.
@superior being
there are over 800 billionaires in the world with quite a few in this country – remember, you’re poor and your vote really doesn’t count for much regardless of who the leader is. If you work harder, get rich and powerful, you can have dinner with the candidates in the future, and call some of the shots. He may be a pawn – but he’s a way more powerful one than you are.
@superior being….
You’re not.
So, the Pontiac is a huge hit and a success because it was on Oprah. In fact Oprah made Pontiac such a hugh success that GM killed the Pontiac Brand. Good thing Oprah didn’t give away Ford F150 Raptors on here show otherwise Toyota owners might have to be more concerned about being run over and squashed instead of panicking over little things like stuck accelerators, the electronics going phsyco or the breaks not working properly. Yep! good thing Oprah made Pontiac a hugh hit so, GM could sell more Pontiac cars.
Superior Being,
You’ve obviously hit a raw nerve. Good job.
MDN MW: “suddenly.” Suddenly I just woke up and saw the hypocrisy of the Left as plain as day.
“breaks not working”
Oh, the irony.
If they weren’t they would…
Can’t we just all agree that most likely in the end result when enough time has gone by we will then realize that our opinions and predictions have mattered to some but not to others and therefore we can continue to carve out sections of life that correlate to our core beliefs because we all know damn well at the end of the day, regardless of how we’ve portrayed ourselves in the past and within this forum, we shall wholeheartedly embrace the iPad and everything for which it stands?
@ @HMCIV
You’re right.
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MDN:
You are really just pathetic. you literally cannot handle an ounce of criticism directed at Apple, warranted or otherwise. You are like a petulant child who constantly acts out when it doesn’t get it’s way.
The Kindle is a widely used and well reviewed device. Apple TV had been a joke that Apple themselves have admitted they consider a “Hobby”. It’s also been on the market for over twice as long as the kindle, is a completely different product, and since Amazon has never released sales numbers for the kindle there is no way to independantly verify the numbers you listed.
Does that stop you from making biased and misinformed assertions that you peddle as fact and not opinion? Of course not.
Grow up.
PlayNice,
MDN is merely pointing out the hypocrisy. Journalists, writers, pundits, and paid shills who insist on calling Apple TV a “dud” at 7 million units, but who then turn around and praise Amazon for their “hit” Kindle that can’t even move 2 million units over two years are <b>hypocrites</a>.
Kudos to MDN for spotlighting the hypocrisy.
“existing application collection ported over without perfect formatting”…
I don’t see any Google mistake, Android is coming to some pretty cool tablets.