“A Verizon iPhone is coming but may not have the world roaming some users would want, Northeast Securities analyst Ashok Kumar claims today,” Electronista reports.
“After contacting Apple’s suppliers, the researcher believes Qualcomm has landed a deal to produce a CDMA iPhone but that it won’t be a dual-mode phone with both CDMA and GSM and consequently can’t leave North America with cellular service intact,” Electronista reports.
“Kumar asserts that Apple had originally asked for a dual chip but allegedly wasn’t happy with the results, instead opting for a more conventional design. It’s not said what triggered the purported disappointment, though dual-network phones have often had significant if sometimes artificial limitations in their frequency support,” Electronista reports.
Full article here.
MacDailyNews Take: As we said earlier: “iPhone OS devices will be on carriers other than AT&T in the U.S. this year.”
The new channel cards being built for verizon, to test, do two things. They allow simultaneous connections (SVDO) and they quadruple the amount of connections. If they like them, all they need to do is swap out the cards at the towers, no other change needed. Also, verizon has less towers to do even though they have nore ‘map’ coverage (CDMA travels further 2x+ and they have been on better frequencies). I see CDMA sticking around for a bare minimum of 5 years and would not be surprised by 10. Think about it, you have a good voice network, you can quadruple throughput for 1000 dollars a card and the LTE voice spec keeps changing (release 8 right now I think). Keep the CDMA for voice and start adding LTE for data. It would be stupid to push for an all LTE phone anytime soon (soon being in the next 3 years).
The one thing I don’t understand is why people with, or without an iphone, get so mad that it might show up on verizon. If the rumors are true, then yes, they were offered the phone first and turned it down. But so what, it’s just business.
Uhhh… Gee, Fat Bastard, maybe I meant this 5-year exclusive contract:
http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/22/apple-iphone-on-atandt-for-five-years/
>The one thing I don’t understand is why people with, or without an iphone, get so mad that it might show up on verizon. If the rumors are true, then yes, they were offered the phone first and turned it down. But so what, it’s just business.<
That has nothing to do with the mass hysteria that has gripped the world. I could give a damn whether it shows up on Verizon or not, frankly. It’s that Joe Blow on the street is going to look at me, and I’ve been following Apple DAILY since 1998 because that’s what I’m paid to do, and tell me that no matter what I may say there WILL be a Verizon iPhone that gets on my nerves. I should start an Apple Predictions Fail blog.
And montex… just WHERE are their sources? Where? All they say “USA Today says”, yet fail to link to that article or indicate who their sources were. And explain to us why the Apple/ATT deal is widely reported to expire NEXT year and ATT hopes to RENEW it again? Your silence on this is deafening.
http://www.businessinsider.com/att-trying-to-extend-iphone-exclusive-until-2011-2009-4
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123973238611017715.html#mod=testMod
White Castle wants their Kumar back.
As for Verizon, they are the least consumer-friendly company around. I don’t care how widespread their network is, since that advantage will disappear as soon as they go 4G. Apple should continue to punish them, and their customers should stop hoping and praying the iPhone comes to Verizon. Their customers are the financial enablers of Verizon’s consumer unfriendly practices.
disappear how? They will not turn off cdma as they turn on LTE. LTE voice will be way behind data. They will use both for a long while.
Like cell areas are good and bad, so is customer service. I’ve had no problems with verizon customer service (and some may not). But I’m not going to ditch verizon, that works, and wait for ATT to get county approval for a tower and then build it. That’s just not right.
No Phone coming – but maybe a tablet to Verizon..
Uhhh… Gee, Fat Bastard, maybe I meant this 5-year exclusive contract:
http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/22/apple-iphone-on-atandt-for-five-years/
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@Montex, That engadget link proves nothing other than the fact that no one other than Apple and ATnT know the specifics of their exclusive agreement.. That’s why the USA Today headline ends in a “?”
Yes, It’s been said by some its a 2 year agreement, that’s already been extended. Other’s have said its a year by year agreement, others have said it’s a five year agreement.. The fact is, no one knows for sure because the details have never been released.
@Fat Bastard
We’ll see. I’ve read plenty in the past 2 1/2 years about the 5-year contract. And I’m not inclined to spend more than 30 seconds on a google search to prove the contract exists. Listening to you, the whole idea was completely fabricated by myself. But if I’m wrong, you are more than welcome to re-post my statements the day Verizon carries the iPhone. I don’t believe it’s going to happen.
And given Verizon’s current slapstick attacks on the iPhone, I don’t believe Apple is going to kiss up to them any time soon. You may have heard that Steve Jobs does not like to be jerked around. Seen Michael Eisner lately? Yeah, thought so. I wouldn’t get on Steve’s bad side and by calling his most prized product a “misfit toy”. That isn’t going to endear yourself to him.
Verizon ain’t gettin’ the iPhone.
Myopic thinking runs amok once again.
It’s always the same people too. There are a four of camps;
The haters who believe Apple should never do business with those who would disrespect Apple.
The myopic who can’t imagine Apple building something other than a GSM phone, at any cost and overlook the niggling facts that get in the way of their position.
Those who take a wait and see approach but continue to ask, why not?
Those who have a long historical and contextual relationship with Apple and practice Forward Thinking* in order to imagine what alludes the other camps.
* Forward thinking consists of using:
A — all 6 sensory experiences (vision, hearing, touch, taste, smell, the mechanical internet with pre stored data plus the life internet with life input data combined), +
B —fuzzy logic and/or abductive reasoning +
C —backward chaining, +
D —inductive reasoning, +
E —deductive reasoning, to predict future events. Artificial intelligence researchers refer to it as forward chaining.
A + B + C + D + E = Forward Thinking
Something eludes me…can’t quite figure out to what you are alluding.
Yup, guilty of using the wrong word.
@montex
“Verizon ain’t gettin’ the iPhone.”
iCal’d.
It would seem the contract is your hang-up. Would the exclusive contract for iPhone include one made specifically for Verizon’s networks?
If AT&T is failing to honor their end of the bargain, might that give Apple leverage or wiggle room.
I don’t doubt AT&T’s contract is iron clad but so is Apples and it may have been agreed to provide phones for five-years, but the exclusivity deal could have easily contained a clause contingent on AT&T’s ability to deliver everything Apple required.
Failing to deliver tethering was critical and embarrassing for Apple.
Contract notwithstanding you talk like Apple should withhold the iPhone from Verizon as some form of punishment.
Apple doesn’t think like that. Have you ever heard one derogatory word from Apple or Jobs since Jobs raised the notion that Dell was a target?
In light of the dramatic change of fortunes between these two, you don’t see Jobs taking cheap shots at Dell.
Say what you want but Apple is above this whole notion of revenge and reciprocity.
When Moto couldn’t deliver the kind of phone experience he envisioned for iTunes or other ideas he may have had about a phone, he didn’t stop doing business with Moto, he made his own phone!
That’s how Jobs punishes an industry stagnating with tired memes. It’s not personal, it’s business.
Typing on MDNs mobile interface Sucks!